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Old February 16th 05, 10:14 PM
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FDR wrote:
Well tell me how the gun gets from the manufacturer to the terrorist?

Well, tell me a few of those ways


stores,


So if stores didn't sell assault weapons that would eliminate that source.


I see, you're one of those wild-eyed fantasy boys who believes that if all
guns disappeared, there'd be no killing.

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Old February 16th 05, 10:16 PM
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FDR wrote:
But it has. You and he have labeled me a Nazi and a 'tard. You guys are
easy.


The Nazis *did* outlaw private possession of guns in Germany, as you want
to do in the USA.

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Old February 16th 05, 10:35 PM
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"bpnjensen" wrote in message
ups.com...
I just don't agree with extreme views on either side that

affect my rights and have little or no effect on the problems they try
to
correct.

B.H.

..of course, and how could it be different? Myself, I am willing to
accept some amounts of extremism, temporarily, *if* it looks like a
problem could be solved with it - otherwise, it is usually far better
to build a consensus and, as far as possible, ignore the outliers.

BJ


I understand but I'm not willing to budge on any aspect of my freedom as
it's laid out in the Bill of Right or in our Constitution. I don't believe
in security over freedom because it doesn't work and it ultimately opens the
door to further erosion of our rights.

B.H.


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Old February 17th 05, 12:46 AM
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"clifto" wrote in message
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FDR wrote:
But it has. You and he have labeled me a Nazi and a 'tard. You guys are
easy.


The Nazis *did* outlaw private possession of guns in Germany, as you want
to do in the USA.



Maybe you should go back and reread what I said before you attribute things
to me.


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Old February 17th 05, 12:49 AM
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"-=jd=-" wrote in message
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On Tue 15 Feb 2005 11:40:34p, "FDR"
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"-=jd=-" wrote in message
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On Tue 15 Feb 2005 09:52:06a, "FDR"

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So if stores didn't sell assault weapons that would eliminate that
source.



If car dealerships didn't sell death-mobiles, tens of thousands of
people wouldn't die every year. What's your point?


Cars get people and products to places. Guns make nice holes in targets
and people. I can see how you can confuse the two snce they are so
similar.


How am I confusing two products that have similar potentials:


Because you certainly don't understand their applications.







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Old February 17th 05, 12:50 AM
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"clifto" wrote in message
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FDR wrote:
Well tell me how the gun gets from the manufacturer to the terrorist?

Well, tell me a few of those ways


stores,


So if stores didn't sell assault weapons that would eliminate that
source.


I see, you're one of those wild-eyed fantasy boys who believes that if all
guns disappeared, there'd be no killing.


There wou;dn't have been a Columbine.



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Old February 17th 05, 12:51 AM
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"Brian Hill" wrote in message
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"FDR" wrote in message

I'm not mad. I like you. Your a nice little Nazi. Hey I got one for ya!

How does Hitler tie his shoes?



I don't know. Tell me.


In little knotzies. LOL Ha!!! Ha!!! ))))))))))))))))))))))


Where do General's keep their Armies?




B.H.




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Old February 17th 05, 02:00 AM
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"-=jd=-" wrote in message
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On Wed 16 Feb 2005 07:50:06p, "FDR"

wrote in message :


"clifto" wrote in message
...
FDR wrote:
Well tell me how the gun gets from the manufacturer to the

terrorist?

Well, tell me a few of those ways

stores,

So if stores didn't sell assault weapons that would eliminate that
source.

I see, you're one of those wild-eyed fantasy boys who believes that if

all
guns disappeared, there'd be no killing.


There wou;dn't have been a Columbine.


Well, let's see... What could have also been used to the same effect in a
situation like Columbine?
most any combination of:
shotgun


BS.

bolt-action rifle


BS

semi-auto .22


BS

black-powder revolver


BS

cross-bow
sword
etc., etc., etc.


BS, BS and more BS

How often do you see police use a sword or crossbow?


Defective humans who are not thinking rationally can accomplish a great
many evil things without the benefit of a scary "Assault Rifle".


And yet they are highly prized.

Who needs
high capacity magazines when there's two of you. One to keep their heads
down while the other reloads... The difference between our view-points is
that I correctly identify the root-cause of the problem as defective
people
who wouldn't be bothered by the inability to obtain one particular type of
weapon when there are so many to choose from. It would appear that you
identify the root-cause as an inanimate object.



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Old February 17th 05, 02:16 AM
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In article . com,
"bpnjensen" wrote:

BULL****!

cuhulin

Why do you say this? Do you have other stats that show otherwise?

Bruce Jensen


Why do you and others keep responding to these off topic Trolls?

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Old February 17th 05, 05:06 AM
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"FDR" wrote in message
...

"-=jd=-" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed 16 Feb 2005 07:50:06p, "FDR"

wrote in message :


"clifto" wrote in message
...
FDR wrote:
Well tell me how the gun gets from the manufacturer to the

terrorist?

Well, tell me a few of those ways

stores,

So if stores didn't sell assault weapons that would eliminate that
source.

I see, you're one of those wild-eyed fantasy boys who believes that if

all
guns disappeared, there'd be no killing.

There wou;dn't have been a Columbine.


Well, let's see... What could have also been used to the same effect in

a
situation like Columbine?
most any combination of:
shotgun


BS.

bolt-action rifle


BS

semi-auto .22


BS

black-powder revolver


BS

cross-bow
sword
etc., etc., etc.


BS, BS and more BS



Gotta agree with jd on this one.

1) Like the old NRA bumper sticker quite correctly says: "If you outlaw guns
(and this can be applied to many things), then only outlaws will have guns".

2) People have been killing one another very effectively for milennia
without the need of a firearm of any sort. In fact, the lunatic weapon of
choice would seem to be a knife/machete/sword or that ilk.

3) There were no "assault rifles" used at the Columbine shootings. The
closest to an assault weapon would have been the 9mm semi-auto handgun used
by Dylan.

"
What they carried:
Dylan -- Intratec TEC-DC-9 (9-mm semi-automatic handgun) attached to a strap
slung over his shoulder (under coat), Stevens 12-gauge double-barrel shotgun
(barrel sawed down to approximately 23 inches, initially half-hidden in
Dylan's cargos).

Eric -- 10-shot Hi-Point model 995 carbine rifle on a strap (under coat),
Savage-Springfield 12-gauge pump shotgun he called 'Arlene' (named after a
Doom character - initially in one of the duffels carried to the top of the
grassy knoll -- stock and barrel sawed off, reducing the entire gun to 26
inches).

The sawed-off weapons were so short that firing repeatedly from them caused
their hands to bleed on the practice range initially. They apparently
acclimitized to the weapons over the months preceding the shootings. Both
gunmen also carried several knives, but they did not use them on April 20.

The shooters named their pipe bombs. Four bombs are mentioned on Eric's
website, along with their specs. 'Vengeance' (pictured at bottom) and
'Atlanta' were found at the Klebold residence when police searched it."


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