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David Eduardo March 11th 05 06:36 AM


"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no
"nice" antenna anymore.


Well I found this on Radio Magazine
http://beradio.com/searchresults/?terms=KFI&ord=d

KFI Tower Felled by Plane Crash
La Mirada, CA - Dec 19, 2004 - The Associated Press reports that a
private plane crashed into the tower of KFI-AM at 9:45 a.m. on Dec. 19.
The single-engine Cessna 182 brought the 760' tower down. The two people
on the plane were killed. Their identities have not yet been released.

The plane was en route to Fullerton Airport from El Monte when it
crashed. Fullerton airport is about one mile from the tower site. The
FAA reports that the pilot did not issue any distress reports.

KFI's tower has resisted earthquakes and a brush with a private plane
once before. The tower survived the previous air incident. The tower's
guy wires were replaced in March 2004 after 47 years of use.

KFI reports that the station was off the air for about an hour before
switching to an auxiliary tower at the same site at about 5kW. The
station is licensed for 50kW into the main antenna.


I have heard them claim 50kW in the past and I thought 640 was one of
the old "clear channels."


It still is a clear channel. However, they have not been able to rebuiled
the fallen tower and are still using the aux, but with hihger power than the
first few hours.

Did they reduce power after putting up a new antenna?


The 1/8 wave antenna was the auxiliary tower, used when the 1/2 wave one was
being maintained. There has been no replacement or new tower built.



Mark Howell March 11th 05 06:36 AM

On 10 Mar 2005 01:14:48 GMT, dxAce wrote:



David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"roger carroll" wrote:

Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking
about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still
be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they
do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc

KFI is 50kW with a real nice antenna.


Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no
"nice" antenna anymore.


When did they reduce power? Everything I check still shows them at 50 kW,
including the FCC data.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


It changed when KFI's main tower was knocked down by an airplane
earlier this year. The incident was widely reported at the time.

Mark Howell


Mark Zenier March 11th 05 06:36 AM

In article , David wrote:
It's wall to wall misdirection. Michael Jackson and Robert Blake are
not news. I am not a fan of explosions and heavy metal stingers.
It's all sizzle and no steak.


If anybody wants to read about KFI, there's a big cover story article
about inside the talk radio biz in the new (April 2005) issue of
Atlantic Monthly, featuring the nightime guy there.

Trivia, KFI originally stood for "Farm Information".

Mark Zenier Washington State resident




David Eduardo March 11th 05 06:36 AM


"David" wrote in message
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And American Idol is the number one TV show.


Because many people watch it. Duh.



David Eduardo March 11th 05 06:36 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"roger carroll" wrote:

Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking
about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still
be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they
do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc

KFI is 50kW with a real nice antenna.


Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no
"nice" antenna anymore.


When did they reduce power? Everything I check still shows them at 50 kW,
including the FCC data.


They lost the tower in an aircraft collision. They are running an existing
auxiliary tower in a nonconforming operation until such time as the
half-waver can be rebuilt at the current site or a new site found.



David March 11th 05 06:36 AM

Why don't you two get a room at the Dinosaur Hideaway?

KFI is not KMPC. It is a WOAI clone. It is annoying to listen to.
It is classless. The only reason they're #1 is the rest of the
audience is too fragmented.

For good sounding News/Talker try 810.

On 10 Mar 2005 01:14:54 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


wrote in message ...
David, I disagree I worked at KMPC for 22 years we had the best news
dept in Los Angeles now it's KFI. The hard news on the hour and half
hour also breaking news coverage IMHO is the best. From your comments
you don't like KFI, use the "on" and "off" button. I have nothing to do
with KFI, as a former air talent, Vice President of Gene Autry's
GWB,owner of KMPC, KSFO, KVI, KEX, and owner of radio stations my views
are not personal. KFI is far from being stale and old fashion
sounding. 1260, you have to be kidding. Are you in broadcasting??
David, I repeat nothing personal, just disagree. Also, don't know her.
Terri Raye Elmer KFI, one of the best newscasters in LA.
roger carroll, retired living the good life on Alamits Bay


David,

What Roger may not want to say, I will: GWB, while Roger was there, was one
of the absolute finest radio companies in America if not the entire world.
Service, responsibility, strong, live personalities, localism, high
technical standards, decent treatment of the staff and general responsible
business practices while making a profit.

Those of us still in radio would be honored to be considered to be in the
same league as Roger.

Because of this, if roger says it, it is likely 99.9% correct. And that goes
for his latest post.





David Eduardo March 11th 05 06:36 AM


"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"roger carroll" wrote:

Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking
about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still
be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they
do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc

KFI is 50kW with a real nice antenna.


Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no
"nice" antenna anymore.


Do you know when this changed?


A few hours after the 750 foot tower fell.



David March 11th 05 03:04 PM

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:02:51 GMT, "David Eduardo"
They lost the licensed tower in an aircraft collision late last year. They
are running an existing
auxiliary tower in a nonconforming operation at half-power until such time
as the
half-waver can be rebuilt at the current site or a new site found. The
auxiliary tower, which was put into use within a couple of hours of the
aircraft tragedy, can not handle full power as it is very short.

Getting permits to rebuild the tower may take many more months. During this
time, KFI is running 25 kw. It is not necessary to re-license a station for
a bona fide emergency operation.

The tower can not immediately be rebuilt as it qualifies as a totally new
structure, subject to today's codes and regulations, not those in effect
when the old tower was built in 1947.

KTAR does really well with a 440' tower. KFI may have to make do with
something similar.


David Eduardo March 11th 05 07:12 PM


"David" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:02:51 GMT, "David Eduardo"
They lost the licensed tower in an aircraft collision late last year. They
are running an existing
auxiliary tower in a nonconforming operation at half-power until such time
as the
half-waver can be rebuilt at the current site or a new site found. The
auxiliary tower, which was put into use within a couple of hours of the
aircraft tragedy, can not handle full power as it is very short.

Getting permits to rebuild the tower may take many more months. During
this
time, KFI is running 25 kw. It is not necessary to re-license a station
for
a bona fide emergency operation.

The tower can not immediately be rebuilt as it qualifies as a totally new
structure, subject to today's codes and regulations, not those in effect
when the old tower was built in 1947.

KTAR does really well with a 440' tower. KFI may have to make do with
something similar.


They could do the 50 kw into the 1/8th wave tower, but it was built as an
auxiliary tower and the ATU will not take 50 kw. Since the metro coverage is
satisfactory with 25 kw, and metro coverage is all they care about, it is
unlikely they will "fix" the small tower until they get the 1/2 wave tower
back in operation. In fact, they had their best book ever after the tower
fell and they were on lower power on a less efficient tower.



David Eduardo March 12th 05 04:49 PM


wrote in message ...
Thank You, you are very kind. It's hard to believe how radio has
changed, we had 135 employes at KMPC everyone was a pro....That's the
way Gene Autry operated. rc


That is why I am in the Hispanic sector and in Latin America. Recently did a
project with a news-talk in Argentina, where the morning news and
information show has 47 staffers... including a staff comedian who does
hourly parodies!

In the US, nearly all Hispanic stations are live and local, know that
community service actually gets ratings, and where radio is still a
profession.

I recall visiting KSFO in about 1961 as a teen and remembering that it was
filled with courteous people who actually thought it was significant that a
13-year-old would visit them. today, stations have to have metal detectors
to keep criminals out!

I look forward to more of your postings here.




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