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Yosemite Sam
Yosemite Sam was apparently busted on 17 February. The transmitter was
reportedly west of Albuquerque, New Mexico, just off I-40. (various reports) dxAce Michigan USA |
does anyone have an opinion on why yosemite sam would get busted so
fast? was he interfering with any licensed service? harassing amateur nets? im just curious that the feds would get off their asses to get him with all the jammers and QRM'ers and linear amped cb'ers swamping the waves. not to mention the bad power poles and transformers that they dont care about, and the abundance of consumer products that broadcast noise across huge swathes of the spectrum. and bpl blanketing their trial cities. why was he such a priority? or did he just fall into their hands somehow? |
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Close enough to the Mexican Border to attract Interest ?? |
Jim wrote: does anyone have an opinion on why yosemite sam would get busted so fast? The quick answer is that Sam operated for at least two incarnations on 3700 which is located inside an amateur band. That tends to get folks moving rather rapidly to figure out who is running the operation, and where it is coming from. dxAce Michigan USA |
Did anyone figure out what he was actually trying to accomplish? Was it
just annoying, or was there some sort of code involved? |
running dogg wrote: Tom Sevart wrote: "running dogg" wrote in message ... Could you post links to these "various reports"? I'd like to know more. Given Sam's sophistication, I wonder if the guy they "caught" isn't a fall guy meant to mollify the ham/SWL community's curiosity. Oh can we stop with the conspiracy theories already? http://www.dxing.com/dxr.htm Thanks. It's about time that we had substantive info other than dxAce's "various reports" shtick. LOL... I gave you substantive info to begin with. Your choice was that I was making it up. That's as ridiculous as David Stinsons 'informed opinion'. I'm sitting here still having a good laugh at the 'tard boys of shortwave. Have fun with your conspiracy theorys, and try to leave reality to the big boys. LMAO at the 'tards. dxAce Michigan USA |
i was watching this with much amusement and a great time was being had
by all....... and then pow-zow someone pulls out the "portable" card! what the hell kind of crack is that? i mean "tard boy" and "ace hole" are pretty specific (and hilarious) targeted insults but that "portable" thing is pretty broad-banded! what are you some kind of radio bigot? just because my radio is light am i a second class swl? well guess what! i have a dream! i dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his loggings and not by the price of his rig! now everybody play nice before someone gets an eye poked out! damn, cant we all just get along? |
Jim wrote: i was watching this with much amusement and a great time was being had by all....... and then pow-zow someone pulls out the "portable" card! what the hell kind of crack is that? i mean "tard boy" and "ace hole" are pretty specific (and hilarious) targeted insults but that "portable" thing is pretty broad-banded! what are you some kind of radio bigot? just because my radio is light am i a second class swl? well guess what! i have a dream! i dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his loggings and not by the price of his rig! now everybody play nice before someone gets an eye poked out! damn, cant we all just get along? Go back and read the post, 'tard. I never mentioned 'portable' in the post you responded to. Are you 'second class'? I don't know. But I do know that you are obviously a 'tard without a dog in this fight. Go tote it. dxAce Michigan USA |
Jim wrote: ....damn, cant we all just get along? dxAceHole wrote: Are you 'second class'? I don't know. But I do know that you are obviously a 'tard without a dog in this fight. Looks like all but one of us can "get along," Jim... |
As a general rule it is a really BAD idea to intrude onto ANY frequency
assigned to hams. We are somewhat protective of our shrinking radio spectrum and will defend it strongly. As an example, in 1980 or 81 the "Greatfull Dead" gave a concert in Rupp Arena. Too bad for them their roadies used 70cM ham HTs to communicate. Within minutes they where warned to leave the 70cM hamm band. They laughed at the hams. A really dumb idea. Every ham in the area with 70cM radios joined in the fun. We held an series of nets. As the roadies tried to switch freqs we followed. The concert started very late. They had to borrow HTs from security to get anything done. Were our actions illegal jamming? No. The intruders had no rights. If this had been a life or death stituation, hams would have gladly helped. Around the same time a young lady had her boyfriends HT to listen to the gang. About 11:00PM she came on and said she felt "real bad" and couldn't get off the couch to reach the telephone to call 911. We instantly brought up the 911 autopatch, had her explain the situation. EMS was dispatched and her boy friend was told to head for the hospital to meet her. The surgeons removed her apendix and nothing was said about her "illegal" use of her boy friend's HT. Because it wasn't illegal. Set up shop on any ham frequency at your own risk. It might take them a while to locate you. But keep in mind that a lot of hams love to find low powered, and sometimes mobile, foxes with transmitters. Compared to the task of tracking down a fox, an idiot running a stationary high powered signal is hunting in a baited field. As another exaple we had a stranger show up on the 76 repeater one afternoon. Trying to chat with the female IDer. It was clear that he wasn't a ham, and likely had a stolen rig. We adopted CB handles, but IDed every 10 minutes with our call letters. This brain trust even agreed to meet wtih some of us. A cop who was also a ham joined the party. After some converstion the idoit offered to sell us the "funny" CB. He brought it in, and it had a set of call letters engraved. A quick check of the Callbook gave us the owners address. The cop was able to get his dispatch to track the owner down. And sure enough the rig had been stolen. His police faxed a copy of the report and the cop arrested the idiot. And when the searched the car they found a lot of loot. The theif went away for a long time. Transporting stolen guns and a trunk full of weed across state lines is a really, extremely bad idea. Don't mess with hams unless you are very smart. Or want to have the FCC visit you some night. Terry |
wrote in message oups.com... Set up shop on any ham frequency at your own risk. It might take them a while to locate you. But keep in mind that a lot of hams love to find low powered, and sometimes mobile, foxes with transmitters. Compared to the task of tracking down a fox, an idiot running a stationary high powered signal is hunting in a baited field. Agreed, stay away from the ham bands if you want to pirate. Frankly, I don't care what you do outside of the ham bands, as long as you're not interfering with air traffic control comms or safety-of-life channels. But you'd better know what you're doing when you set up shop on unauthorized frequencies. Which the very fact that this guy was located & shut down negates the whole "the FCC must be turning a blind eye" theory. My question is why did someone feel it necessary to put the station on the air in the first place? Well I suppose the FCC will be asking the same questions. -- Tom Sevart Frontenac, KS http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc |
"Tom Sevart" wrote wrote Set up shop on any ham frequency at your own risk. It might take them a while to locate you. But keep in mind that a lot of hams love to find low powered, and sometimes mobile, foxes with transmitters. Compared to the task of tracking down a fox, an idiot running a stationary high powered signal is hunting in a baited field. Agreed, stay away from the ham bands if you want to pirate. Frankly, I don't care what you do outside of the ham bands, as long as you're not interfering with air traffic control comms or safety-of-life channels. But you'd better know what you're doing when you set up shop on unauthorized frequencies. Which the very fact that this guy was located & shut down negates the whole "the FCC must be turning a blind eye" theory. My question is why did someone feel it necessary to put the station on the air in the first place? Well I suppose the FCC will be asking the same questions. -- Tom Sevart Frontenac, KS http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc Tom, the referenced clown did broadcast deliberate interference on two HF maritime hailing and distress frequencies. That's more felonies to his credit, and if records show there was distress traffic anywhere during that time frame, it could get even worse for him. Jack Painter Virginia Beach, Virginia |
Jack Painter wrote: "Tom Sevart" wrote wrote Set up shop on any ham frequency at your own risk. It might take them a while to locate you. But keep in mind that a lot of hams love to find low powered, and sometimes mobile, foxes with transmitters. Compared to the task of tracking down a fox, an idiot running a stationary high powered signal is hunting in a baited field. Agreed, stay away from the ham bands if you want to pirate. Frankly, I don't care what you do outside of the ham bands, as long as you're not interfering with air traffic control comms or safety-of-life channels. But you'd better know what you're doing when you set up shop on unauthorized frequencies. Which the very fact that this guy was located & shut down negates the whole "the FCC must be turning a blind eye" theory. My question is why did someone feel it necessary to put the station on the air in the first place? Well I suppose the FCC will be asking the same questions. -- Tom Sevart Frontenac, KS http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc Tom, the referenced clown did broadcast deliberate interference on two HF maritime hailing and distress frequencies. That's more felonies to his credit, and if records show there was distress traffic anywhere during that time frame, it could get even worse for him. Which two frequencies would they be? dxAce Michigan USA |
-=jd=- wrote: On Tue 01 Mar 2005 09:57:59a, David Stinson wrote in message news:Xp%Ud.52822$EL5.2141@trnddc05: I'm wondering why everyone is being so "hush hush" about it. Perhaps it has to do with the newly-complicated privacy laws, but then who knows... "Hush-hush"?? I can't see how the "Yosemite Sam" broadcaster is/would be treated any differently than any other illegal broadcaster. Though Y.S. attracted a lot of attention within the ham and swl community, and it may be interesting to hear a blow-by-blow, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for he FCC to hire "Chief Moose" to give daily updates about another idiot with a transmitter -- They don't do it for any of the other idiots... If you want info, you more or less have to scrounge it up yourself. For starters, google rain report, arrl and the FCC for FCC enforcement logs, reports & activity. There are other sources out there... I don't know JD, I don't think he's really into 'sources', he's more into conspiracies. dxAce |
"-=jd=-" wrote in message ... If you want info, you more or less have to scrounge it up yourself. For starters, google rain report, arrl and the FCC for FCC enforcement logs, reports & activity. There are other sources out there... The FCC's enforcement bureau page is http://www.fcc.gov/eb/ which may have some information whenever they get around to it and stop worrying about whether an episode of "Will and Grace" was obscene... -- Tom Sevart Frontenac, KS http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc |
The other place to watch is http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/
-- Tom Sevart Frontenac, KS http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc |
oh holy ****! now i am the "tard"! aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!
hey ace. you still havent explained yourself on the "portable" and/or "tote it" crack. i am a tard, so spell it out to me........ do you base your self worth and reputation on the value of your rig? the other 90% of us who chose to "tote it" are tards? if this is what you think then the ham"s have a name for people like you. APPLIANCE OPERATOR. hell, i would rather just sit in front of the tv and give up radio forever than to realise that i was just an APPLIANCE OPERATOR! do you even understand why that is such a insult? probably not. |
Jim wrote: oh holy ****! now i am the "tard"! aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!! hey ace. you still havent explained yourself on the "portable" and/or "tote it" crack. i am a tard, so spell it out to me........ do you base your self worth and reputation on the value of your rig? the other 90% of us who chose to "tote it" are tards? if this is what you think then the ham"s have a name for people like you. APPLIANCE OPERATOR. hell, i would rather just sit in front of the tv and give up radio forever than to realise that i was just an APPLIANCE OPERATOR! do you even understand why that is such a insult? probably not. Having fun, 'tard? LMAO dxAce Michigan USA |
running dogg wrote: Jim wrote: oh holy ****! now i am the "tard"! aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!! hey ace. you still havent explained yourself on the "portable" and/or "tote it" crack. i am a tard, so spell it out to me........ do you base your self worth and reputation on the value of your rig? the other 90% of us who chose to "tote it" are tards? if this is what you think then the ham"s have a name for people like you. APPLIANCE OPERATOR. hell, i would rather just sit in front of the tv and give up radio forever than to realise that i was just an APPLIANCE OPERATOR! do you even understand why that is such a insult? probably not. It doesn't take a whole lot of smarts to operate the typical tabletop, or even to operate the typical transceiver. The early hams, like in the 1910s and 1920s, THEY were smart. But today? Any moron can pass a simple test and get a transceiver and raise hell on the amateur bands, as a couple recent cases of interference chronicled on this group show. 80 years ago, you needed to know a good chunk of radio and electronics theory to become a ham, THEN you needed to know how to turn a wire coil from a Ford Model T into a working MW receiver (not as easy as it looks). Today, we have "Push To Talk". As long as you can pass that test, you can buy an "appliance" transceiver and the FCC washes their hands of you unless you take out every repeater within 1000 miles of Los Angeles. I'm sure there are still smart hams out there. I'm not attacking you guys. I'm attacking You Know Who who thinks that having three Drake tabletops makes him Big Man On SW. I notice that he doesn't even bother to get a ham license, and he thinks he's so smart because he has an ANALOG world time clock. Whoopee. I have a General Class license, 'tard boy. Please try to pay attention. dxAce Michigan USA |
If I get called a 'tard,I am going to find me another radio room down
the hall to play in. cuhulin |
running dogg wrote: Jim wrote: oh holy ****! now i am the "tard"! aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!! hey ace. you still havent explained yourself on the "portable" and/or "tote it" crack. i am a tard, so spell it out to me........ do you base your self worth and reputation on the value of your rig? the other 90% of us who chose to "tote it" are tards? if this is what you think then the ham"s have a name for people like you. APPLIANCE OPERATOR. hell, i would rather just sit in front of the tv and give up radio forever than to realise that i was just an APPLIANCE OPERATOR! do you even understand why that is such a insult? probably not. It doesn't take a whole lot of smarts to operate the typical tabletop, or even to operate the typical transceiver. The early hams, like in the 1910s and 1920s, THEY were smart. But today? Any moron can pass a simple test and get a transceiver and raise hell on the amateur bands, as a couple recent cases of interference chronicled on this group show. 80 years ago, you needed to know a good chunk of radio and electronics theory to become a ham, THEN you needed to know how to turn a wire coil from a Ford Model T into a working MW receiver (not as easy as it looks). Today, we have "Push To Talk". As long as you can pass that test, you can buy an "appliance" transceiver and the FCC washes their hands of you unless you take out every repeater within 1000 miles of Los Angeles. I'm sure there are still smart hams out there. I'm not attacking you guys. I'm attacking You Know Who who thinks that having three Drake tabletops makes him Big Man On SW. I notice that he doesn't even bother to get a ham license, and he thinks he's so smart because he has an ANALOG world time clock. Whoopee. I can really see what upsets a 'tard such as yourself... it's an ANALOG clock! You've got a mental problem, boy. Make sure you take those meds as soon as you get up in the morning, 'tard boy... you're gonna need them. dxAce Michigan USA |
wrote in message ... If I get called a 'tard,I am going to find me another radio room down the hall to play in. Tard. |
Telamon wrote: Self serving jackasses and 'tards go in the kill file. It's amusing, but also sad, that this person thinks anyone cares that he "plonks" them. Must be a strange existance to think that all the world turns on his personal regard. |
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well yes, i am having fun....... but you still seem afraid to actually
answer my question. i dont care that you need a drake to sooth some kind of penis envy. and i am not too proud to be a "tard" i just wanted to know the basis behind the portable thing. most of us have portable radios and i wondered if your slam on portables was only and specifically directed at the guy you were calling a "tard" or does just owing a portable make one a tard? and why would that be? thats why i called it a broad-banded insult. most of us are guilty of owning one or more portable radios....... um, err.... it dawns on me that i have got 6 portable sw radios. am i a tard to the sixth power? a serial tardist? a tardaholic? i just want to know..... |
dont run down the hall! we can start the first chapter of TARDS
ANONYMOUS! its a twelve step program and when we recover we will have fairly expensive radios to show for it! i wonder if drake owners are tards to ten tec owners? |
Jim wrote: well yes, i am having fun....... but you still seem afraid to actually answer my question. i dont care that you need a drake to sooth some kind of penis envy. and i am not too proud to be a "tard" i just wanted to know the basis behind the portable thing. most of us have portable radios and i wondered if your slam on portables was only and specifically directed at the guy you were calling a "tard" or does just owing a portable make one a tard? and why would that be? thats why i called it a broad-banded insult. most of us are guilty of owning one or more portable radios....... um, err.... it dawns on me that i have got 6 portable sw radios. am i a tard to the sixth power? a serial tardist? a tardaholic? i just want to know..... Well, I certainly hope that you're not lying awake at night wondering. dxAce Michigan USA http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
Jim wrote: dont run down the hall! we can start the first chapter of TARDS ANONYMOUS! its a twelve step program and when we recover we will have fairly expensive radios to show for it! i wonder if drake owners are tards to ten tec owners? You seem very confused today, Jim. Have you taken your meds yet? dxAce Michigan USA |
The F....R had a cool nick name though.
cuhulin |
**** YOU,BITCH!
cuhulin |
Jim wrote: dont run down the hall! we can start the first chapter of TARDS ANONYMOUS! its a twelve step program and when we recover we will have fairly expensive radios to show for it! i wonder if drake owners are tards to ten tec owners? I had one of those 'expensive' TenTec receivers for around a month. Sent it packing, back to its birthplace. Way to much money for very little increase in performance vis a vis the Drakes. I've done all right with my current line-up. dxAce Michigan USA http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
PLONK PLONK PLONK PLONK PLONK
cuhulin |
You **** Stick.
cuhulin |
Does that include Tiny-Tennas and Sangeans too?
cuhulin |
damn, dxace! i just posted that a couple of minutes ago! what the
heck..... it will take me several days to get back on the web to see this ng. what, are you dxing with one hand and web surfing with the other one? i wish i had more idle time. if i did then maybe it would pay to drop $1500 into a radio. i would fix my real computer too. but instead my wife is hustling me off to the park. hmmmm real life instead of overindulging in a hobby. wont cost nearly as much either. choose wisely, weedhopper. i need to go....... |
Well,Ten-Tec is just up the road from me in Tennesse and so is,
www.jeepdoc.com and I own a 1942 Willys World War Two Jeep and I own a 1948 Willys Civilian Jeep too.One night at Tan Son Nhut,I "borrowed" a Jeep to go to that bar where my Vietnamese girlfriend (Le Yhume) worked on Huen Hue Street (Street Of Flowers) right across the street from the U.S.O.and I used to bring her sandwiches and Shasta grape soda pop from the U.S.O. cuhulin |
Jim wrote: damn, dxace! i just posted that a couple of minutes ago! what the heck..... it will take me several days to get back on the web to see this ng. what, are you dxing with one hand and web surfing with the other one? i wish i had more idle time. if i did then maybe it would pay to drop $1500 into a radio. i would fix my real computer too. but instead my wife is hustling me off to the park. hmmmm real life instead of overindulging in a hobby. wont cost nearly as much either. choose wisely, weedhopper. i need to go....... Heck, maybe it's not just a hobby but a job? Who knows. dxAce Michigan USA |
wrote in message ... **** YOU,BITCH! You hit the "," key where you meant to hit the "r" key. I think you meant to say "**** your bitch". www.cattledog.com |
Jim wrote: damn, dxace! i just posted that a couple of minutes ago! what the heck..... it will take me several days to get back on the web to see this ng. what, are you dxing with one hand and web surfing with the other one?.... No; he's dxing with one hand, but I won't mention what he's doing with the other.... Hope he's got some tissue.... |
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