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dxAce February 27th 05 09:43 AM

Yosemite Sam
 
Yosemite Sam was apparently busted on 17 February. The transmitter was
reportedly west of Albuquerque, New Mexico, just off I-40.
(various reports)

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Jim February 27th 05 10:39 AM

does anyone have an opinion on why yosemite sam would get busted so
fast? was he interfering with any licensed service? harassing amateur
nets? im just curious that the feds would get off their asses to get him
with all the jammers and QRM'ers and linear amped cb'ers swamping the
waves. not to mention the bad power poles and transformers that they
dont care about, and the abundance of consumer products that broadcast
noise across huge swathes of the spectrum. and bpl blanketing their
trial cities. why was he such a priority? or did he just fall into their
hands somehow?


Conan Ford February 27th 05 11:50 AM

(Jim) wrote in news:17383-4221A36B-4@storefull-
3138.bay.webtv.net:

does anyone have an opinion on why yosemite sam would get busted so
fast? was he interfering with any licensed service? harassing amateur
nets? im just curious that the feds would get off their asses to get him
with all the jammers and QRM'ers and linear amped cb'ers swamping the
waves. not to mention the bad power poles and transformers that they
dont care about, and the abundance of consumer products that broadcast
noise across huge swathes of the spectrum. and bpl blanketing their
trial cities. why was he such a priority? or did he just fall into their
hands somehow?



Well, he did broadcast on 5000 and 10000 khz over WWV(H) at one point, I
believe. Although, he was a minor annoyance on they are 50 kW stations or
something.

I wonder if they got a guy or just a transmitter and a computer playing a
sound file in a loop.


[email protected] February 27th 05 12:02 PM


Close enough to the Mexican Border to attract Interest ??


dxAce February 27th 05 01:47 PM



Jim wrote:

does anyone have an opinion on why yosemite sam would get busted so
fast?


The quick answer is that Sam operated for at least two incarnations on 3700
which is located inside an amateur band.

That tends to get folks moving rather rapidly to figure out who is running the
operation, and where it is coming from.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Invader3K February 27th 05 02:00 PM

Did anyone figure out what he was actually trying to accomplish? Was it
just annoying, or was there some sort of code involved?


dxAce February 28th 05 09:20 PM



running dogg wrote:

Tom Sevart wrote:


"running dogg" wrote in message
...

Could you post links to these "various reports"? I'd like to know more.
Given Sam's sophistication, I wonder if the guy they "caught" isn't a
fall guy meant to mollify the ham/SWL community's curiosity.


Oh can we stop with the conspiracy theories already?

http://www.dxing.com/dxr.htm


Thanks. It's about time that we had substantive info other than dxAce's
"various reports" shtick.


LOL... I gave you substantive info to begin with. Your choice was that I was making it
up.

That's as ridiculous as David Stinsons 'informed opinion'.

I'm sitting here still having a good laugh at the 'tard boys of shortwave.

Have fun with your conspiracy theorys, and try to leave reality to the big boys.

LMAO at the 'tards.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Jim February 28th 05 11:14 PM

i was watching this with much amusement and a great time was being had
by all....... and then pow-zow someone pulls out the "portable" card!
what the hell kind of crack is that? i mean "tard boy" and "ace hole"
are pretty specific (and hilarious) targeted insults but that "portable"
thing is pretty broad-banded! what are you some kind of radio bigot?
just because my radio is light am i a second class swl? well guess what!
i have a dream! i dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of
his loggings and not by the price of his rig! now everybody play nice
before someone gets an eye poked out! damn, cant we all just get along?


dxAce February 28th 05 11:37 PM



Jim wrote:

i was watching this with much amusement and a great time was being had
by all....... and then pow-zow someone pulls out the "portable" card!
what the hell kind of crack is that? i mean "tard boy" and "ace hole"
are pretty specific (and hilarious) targeted insults but that "portable"
thing is pretty broad-banded! what are you some kind of radio bigot?
just because my radio is light am i a second class swl? well guess what!
i have a dream! i dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of
his loggings and not by the price of his rig! now everybody play nice
before someone gets an eye poked out! damn, cant we all just get along?


Go back and read the post, 'tard. I never mentioned 'portable' in the post you
responded to.

Are you 'second class'? I don't know. But I do know that you are obviously a
'tard without a dog in this fight.

Go tote it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David Stinson March 1st 05 12:28 AM





Jim wrote:
....damn, cant we all just get along?


dxAceHole wrote:
Are you 'second class'? I don't know. But I do know that you are obviously a
'tard without a dog in this fight.


Looks like all but one of us can "get along," Jim...

[email protected] March 1st 05 02:42 AM

As a general rule it is a really BAD idea to intrude onto ANY frequency
assigned to hams. We are somewhat protective of our shrinking radio
spectrum and will defend it strongly.
As an example, in 1980 or 81 the "Greatfull Dead" gave a concert in
Rupp Arena. Too bad for them their roadies used 70cM ham HTs to
communicate.
Within minutes they where warned to leave the 70cM hamm band. They
laughed at the hams. A really dumb idea. Every ham in the area with
70cM
radios joined in the fun. We held an series of nets. As the roadies
tried to switch freqs we followed. The concert started very late. They
had to borrow HTs from security to get anything done.
Were our actions illegal jamming?
No.
The intruders had no rights.
If this had been a life or death stituation, hams would have gladly
helped. Around the same time a young lady had her boyfriends HT to
listen to the gang. About 11:00PM she came on and said she felt "real
bad" and couldn't get off the couch to reach the telephone to call
911. We instantly brought up the 911 autopatch, had her explain the
situation. EMS was dispatched and her boy friend was told to head
for the hospital to meet her. The surgeons removed her apendix and
nothing was said about her "illegal" use of
her boy friend's HT. Because it wasn't illegal.
Set up shop on any ham frequency at your own risk.
It might take them a while to locate you.
But keep in mind that a lot of hams love to find low powered, and
sometimes mobile, foxes with transmitters. Compared to the task of
tracking down a fox, an idiot running a stationary high powered signal
is hunting in a baited field.
As another exaple we had a stranger show up on the 76 repeater one
afternoon. Trying to chat with the female IDer. It was clear that he
wasn't a ham, and likely had a stolen rig. We adopted CB handles, but
IDed every 10 minutes with our call letters. This brain trust even
agreed to meet wtih some of us. A cop who was also a ham joined the
party. After some converstion the idoit offered to sell us the "funny"
CB. He brought it in, and it had a set of call letters engraved. A
quick check of the Callbook gave us the owners address. The cop was
able to get his dispatch to track the owner down. And sure enough the
rig had been stolen. His police faxed a copy of the report and the cop
arrested the idiot. And when the searched the car they found a lot of
loot. The theif went away for a long time. Transporting stolen guns and

a trunk full of weed across state lines is a really, extremely bad
idea.
Don't mess with hams unless you are very smart.
Or want to have the FCC visit you some night.
Terry


Tom Sevart March 1st 05 03:38 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...

Set up shop on any ham frequency at your own risk.
It might take them a while to locate you.
But keep in mind that a lot of hams love to find low powered, and
sometimes mobile, foxes with transmitters. Compared to the task of
tracking down a fox, an idiot running a stationary high powered signal
is hunting in a baited field.



Agreed, stay away from the ham bands if you want to pirate. Frankly, I
don't care what you do outside of the ham bands, as long as you're not
interfering with air traffic control comms or safety-of-life channels. But
you'd better know what you're doing when you set up shop on unauthorized
frequencies.

Which the very fact that this guy was located & shut down negates the whole
"the FCC must be turning a blind eye" theory. My question is why did
someone feel it necessary to put the station on the air in the first place?
Well I suppose the FCC will be asking the same questions.

--
Tom Sevart
Frontenac, KS
http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc



Jack Painter March 1st 05 03:48 AM


"Tom Sevart" wrote
wrote

Set up shop on any ham frequency at your own risk.
It might take them a while to locate you.
But keep in mind that a lot of hams love to find low powered, and
sometimes mobile, foxes with transmitters. Compared to the task of
tracking down a fox, an idiot running a stationary high powered signal
is hunting in a baited field.



Agreed, stay away from the ham bands if you want to pirate. Frankly, I
don't care what you do outside of the ham bands, as long as you're not
interfering with air traffic control comms or safety-of-life channels.

But
you'd better know what you're doing when you set up shop on unauthorized
frequencies.

Which the very fact that this guy was located & shut down negates the

whole
"the FCC must be turning a blind eye" theory. My question is why did
someone feel it necessary to put the station on the air in the first

place?
Well I suppose the FCC will be asking the same questions.

--
Tom Sevart
Frontenac, KS
http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc


Tom, the referenced clown did broadcast deliberate interference on two HF
maritime hailing and distress frequencies. That's more felonies to his
credit, and if records show there was distress traffic anywhere during that
time frame, it could get even worse for him.

Jack Painter
Virginia Beach, Virginia



dxAce March 1st 05 11:34 AM



Jack Painter wrote:

"Tom Sevart" wrote
wrote

Set up shop on any ham frequency at your own risk.
It might take them a while to locate you.
But keep in mind that a lot of hams love to find low powered, and
sometimes mobile, foxes with transmitters. Compared to the task of
tracking down a fox, an idiot running a stationary high powered signal
is hunting in a baited field.



Agreed, stay away from the ham bands if you want to pirate. Frankly, I
don't care what you do outside of the ham bands, as long as you're not
interfering with air traffic control comms or safety-of-life channels.

But
you'd better know what you're doing when you set up shop on unauthorized
frequencies.

Which the very fact that this guy was located & shut down negates the

whole
"the FCC must be turning a blind eye" theory. My question is why did
someone feel it necessary to put the station on the air in the first

place?
Well I suppose the FCC will be asking the same questions.

--
Tom Sevart
Frontenac, KS
http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc


Tom, the referenced clown did broadcast deliberate interference on two HF
maritime hailing and distress frequencies. That's more felonies to his
credit, and if records show there was distress traffic anywhere during that
time frame, it could get even worse for him.


Which two frequencies would they be?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce March 1st 05 10:55 PM



-=jd=- wrote:

On Tue 01 Mar 2005 09:57:59a, David Stinson wrote in
message news:Xp%Ud.52822$EL5.2141@trnddc05:


I'm wondering why everyone is being so "hush hush" about it.
Perhaps it has to do with the newly-complicated privacy laws,
but then who knows...


"Hush-hush"?? I can't see how the "Yosemite Sam" broadcaster is/would be
treated any differently than any other illegal broadcaster. Though Y.S.
attracted a lot of attention within the ham and swl community, and it may
be interesting to hear a blow-by-blow, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting
for he FCC to hire "Chief Moose" to give daily updates about another idiot
with a transmitter -- They don't do it for any of the other idiots...

If you want info, you more or less have to scrounge it up yourself. For
starters, google rain report, arrl and the FCC for FCC enforcement logs,
reports & activity. There are other sources out there...


I don't know JD, I don't think he's really into 'sources', he's more into
conspiracies.

dxAce



Tom Sevart March 2nd 05 02:40 PM


"-=jd=-" wrote in message
...

If you want info, you more or less have to scrounge it up yourself. For
starters, google rain report, arrl and the FCC for FCC enforcement logs,
reports & activity. There are other sources out there...


The FCC's enforcement bureau page is http://www.fcc.gov/eb/ which may have
some information whenever they get around to it and stop worrying about
whether an episode of "Will and Grace" was obscene...


--
Tom Sevart
Frontenac, KS
http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc



Tom Sevart March 2nd 05 02:41 PM

The other place to watch is http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/


--
Tom Sevart
Frontenac, KS
http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc



Jim March 3rd 05 12:08 AM

oh holy ****! now i am the "tard"! aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!
hey ace. you still havent explained yourself on the "portable" and/or
"tote it" crack. i am a tard, so spell it out to me........ do you base
your self worth and reputation on the value of your rig? the other 90%
of us who chose to "tote it" are tards? if this is what you think then
the ham"s have a name for people like you. APPLIANCE OPERATOR. hell, i
would rather just sit in front of the tv and give up radio forever than
to realise that i was just an APPLIANCE OPERATOR! do you even understand
why that is such a insult? probably not.


dxAce March 3rd 05 06:53 AM



Jim wrote:

oh holy ****! now i am the "tard"! aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!
hey ace. you still havent explained yourself on the "portable" and/or
"tote it" crack. i am a tard, so spell it out to me........ do you base
your self worth and reputation on the value of your rig? the other 90%
of us who chose to "tote it" are tards? if this is what you think then
the ham"s have a name for people like you. APPLIANCE OPERATOR. hell, i
would rather just sit in front of the tv and give up radio forever than
to realise that i was just an APPLIANCE OPERATOR! do you even understand
why that is such a insult? probably not.


Having fun, 'tard?

LMAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce March 3rd 05 06:57 AM



running dogg wrote:

Jim wrote:

oh holy ****! now i am the "tard"! aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!
hey ace. you still havent explained yourself on the "portable" and/or
"tote it" crack. i am a tard, so spell it out to me........ do you base
your self worth and reputation on the value of your rig? the other 90%
of us who chose to "tote it" are tards? if this is what you think then
the ham"s have a name for people like you. APPLIANCE OPERATOR. hell, i
would rather just sit in front of the tv and give up radio forever than
to realise that i was just an APPLIANCE OPERATOR! do you even understand
why that is such a insult? probably not.


It doesn't take a whole lot of smarts to operate the typical tabletop,
or even to operate the typical transceiver. The early hams, like in the
1910s and 1920s, THEY were smart. But today? Any moron can pass a simple
test and get a transceiver and raise hell on the amateur bands, as a
couple recent cases of interference chronicled on this group show. 80
years ago, you needed to know a good chunk of radio and electronics
theory to become a ham, THEN you needed to know how to turn a wire coil
from a Ford Model T into a working MW receiver (not as easy as it
looks). Today, we have "Push To Talk". As long as you can pass that
test, you can buy an "appliance" transceiver and the FCC washes their
hands of you unless you take out every repeater within 1000 miles of Los
Angeles. I'm sure there are still smart hams out there. I'm not
attacking you guys. I'm attacking You Know Who who thinks that having
three Drake tabletops makes him Big Man On SW. I notice that he doesn't
even bother to get a ham license, and he thinks he's so smart because he
has an ANALOG world time clock. Whoopee.


I have a General Class license, 'tard boy. Please try to pay attention.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] March 3rd 05 07:07 AM

If I get called a 'tard,I am going to find me another radio room down
the hall to play in.
cuhulin


dxAce March 3rd 05 11:54 AM



running dogg wrote:

Jim wrote:

oh holy ****! now i am the "tard"! aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!
hey ace. you still havent explained yourself on the "portable" and/or
"tote it" crack. i am a tard, so spell it out to me........ do you base
your self worth and reputation on the value of your rig? the other 90%
of us who chose to "tote it" are tards? if this is what you think then
the ham"s have a name for people like you. APPLIANCE OPERATOR. hell, i
would rather just sit in front of the tv and give up radio forever than
to realise that i was just an APPLIANCE OPERATOR! do you even understand
why that is such a insult? probably not.


It doesn't take a whole lot of smarts to operate the typical tabletop,
or even to operate the typical transceiver. The early hams, like in the
1910s and 1920s, THEY were smart. But today? Any moron can pass a simple
test and get a transceiver and raise hell on the amateur bands, as a
couple recent cases of interference chronicled on this group show. 80
years ago, you needed to know a good chunk of radio and electronics
theory to become a ham, THEN you needed to know how to turn a wire coil
from a Ford Model T into a working MW receiver (not as easy as it
looks). Today, we have "Push To Talk". As long as you can pass that
test, you can buy an "appliance" transceiver and the FCC washes their
hands of you unless you take out every repeater within 1000 miles of Los
Angeles. I'm sure there are still smart hams out there. I'm not
attacking you guys. I'm attacking You Know Who who thinks that having
three Drake tabletops makes him Big Man On SW. I notice that he doesn't
even bother to get a ham license, and he thinks he's so smart because he
has an ANALOG world time clock. Whoopee.


I can really see what upsets a 'tard such as yourself... it's an ANALOG clock!

You've got a mental problem, boy.

Make sure you take those meds as soon as you get up in the morning, 'tard boy... you're
gonna need them.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Honus March 4th 05 01:34 AM


wrote in message
...
If I get called a 'tard,I am going to find me another radio room down
the hall to play in.


Tard.



David Stinson March 4th 05 02:43 PM



Telamon wrote:

Self serving jackasses and 'tards go in the kill file.


It's amusing, but also sad, that this person
thinks anyone cares that he "plonks" them.
Must be a strange existance to think that
all the world turns on his personal regard.

David Stinson March 4th 05 02:46 PM



wrote:

If I get called a 'tard,I am going to find me another radio room down
the hall to play in.
cuhulin


'tard. 'tard, 'tard, 'tard!

Jim March 5th 05 06:02 PM

well yes, i am having fun....... but you still seem afraid to actually
answer my question. i dont care that you need a drake to sooth some kind
of penis envy. and i am not too proud to be a "tard" i just wanted to
know the basis behind the portable thing. most of us have portable
radios and i wondered if your slam on portables was only and
specifically directed at the guy you were calling a "tard" or does just
owing a portable make one a tard? and why would that be? thats why i
called it a broad-banded insult. most of us are guilty of owning one or
more portable radios....... um, err.... it dawns on me that i have got 6
portable sw radios. am i a tard to the sixth power? a serial tardist? a
tardaholic? i just want to know.....


Jim March 5th 05 06:13 PM

dont run down the hall! we can start the first chapter of TARDS
ANONYMOUS! its a twelve step program and when we recover we will have
fairly expensive radios to show for it! i wonder if drake owners are
tards to ten tec owners?


dxAce March 5th 05 06:30 PM



Jim wrote:

well yes, i am having fun....... but you still seem afraid to actually
answer my question. i dont care that you need a drake to sooth some kind
of penis envy. and i am not too proud to be a "tard" i just wanted to
know the basis behind the portable thing. most of us have portable
radios and i wondered if your slam on portables was only and
specifically directed at the guy you were calling a "tard" or does just
owing a portable make one a tard? and why would that be? thats why i
called it a broad-banded insult. most of us are guilty of owning one or
more portable radios....... um, err.... it dawns on me that i have got 6
portable sw radios. am i a tard to the sixth power? a serial tardist? a
tardaholic? i just want to know.....


Well, I certainly hope that you're not lying awake at night wondering.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



dxAce March 5th 05 06:34 PM



Jim wrote:

dont run down the hall! we can start the first chapter of TARDS
ANONYMOUS! its a twelve step program and when we recover we will have
fairly expensive radios to show for it! i wonder if drake owners are
tards to ten tec owners?


You seem very confused today, Jim. Have you taken your meds yet?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] March 5th 05 06:41 PM

The F....R had a cool nick name though.
cuhulin


[email protected] March 5th 05 06:43 PM

**** YOU,BITCH!
cuhulin


dxAce March 5th 05 06:44 PM



Jim wrote:

dont run down the hall! we can start the first chapter of TARDS
ANONYMOUS! its a twelve step program and when we recover we will have
fairly expensive radios to show for it! i wonder if drake owners are
tards to ten tec owners?


I had one of those 'expensive' TenTec receivers for around a month. Sent it
packing, back to its birthplace.

Way to much money for very little increase in performance vis a vis the Drakes.

I've done all right with my current line-up.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



[email protected] March 5th 05 06:44 PM

PLONK PLONK PLONK PLONK PLONK
cuhulin


[email protected] March 5th 05 06:45 PM

You **** Stick.
cuhulin


[email protected] March 5th 05 06:47 PM

Does that include Tiny-Tennas and Sangeans too?
cuhulin


Jim March 5th 05 06:52 PM

damn, dxace! i just posted that a couple of minutes ago! what the
heck..... it will take me several days to get back on the web to see
this ng. what, are you dxing with one hand and web surfing with the
other one? i wish i had more idle time. if i did then maybe it would pay
to drop $1500 into a radio. i would fix my real computer too. but
instead my wife is hustling me off to the park. hmmmm real life instead
of overindulging in a hobby. wont cost nearly as much either. choose
wisely, weedhopper. i need to go.......


[email protected] March 5th 05 06:55 PM

Well,Ten-Tec is just up the road from me in Tennesse and so is,
www.jeepdoc.com and I own a 1942 Willys World War Two Jeep and I own a
1948 Willys Civilian Jeep too.One night at Tan Son Nhut,I "borrowed" a
Jeep to go to that bar where my Vietnamese girlfriend (Le Yhume) worked
on Huen Hue Street (Street Of Flowers) right across the street from the
U.S.O.and I used to bring her sandwiches and Shasta grape soda pop from
the U.S.O.
cuhulin


dxAce March 5th 05 07:18 PM



Jim wrote:

damn, dxace! i just posted that a couple of minutes ago! what the
heck..... it will take me several days to get back on the web to see
this ng. what, are you dxing with one hand and web surfing with the
other one? i wish i had more idle time. if i did then maybe it would pay
to drop $1500 into a radio. i would fix my real computer too. but
instead my wife is hustling me off to the park. hmmmm real life instead
of overindulging in a hobby. wont cost nearly as much either. choose
wisely, weedhopper. i need to go.......


Heck, maybe it's not just a hobby but a job? Who knows.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Honus March 5th 05 07:30 PM


wrote in message
...
**** YOU,BITCH!


You hit the "," key where you meant to hit the "r" key.

I think you meant to say "**** your bitch". www.cattledog.com





David Stinson March 5th 05 08:20 PM



Jim wrote:

damn, dxace! i just posted that a couple of minutes ago! what the
heck..... it will take me several days to get back on the web to see
this ng. what, are you dxing with one hand and web surfing with the
other one?....


No; he's dxing with one hand, but I won't mention
what he's doing with the other....
Hope he's got some tissue....


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