Michael wrote:


"running dogg" wrote in message
...
I take the time to post dx logs, and they're ignored, except by Tebo who
corrects one of my assumptions. But people who post off topic get
zillions of responses, most of them childish insults from the likes of
Ace. David never lacks for attention. But my logs? ZZZZZZZZ (apparently)
Is this REALLY a shortwave radio group? Or just another place for people
to insult each other and act passive aggressive?




I used to post my "speed logs" all the time... For the most part, there was
nothing all too interesting about my speed logs because I was just listing
the "big boys"... No surprises.... Ya know ??? So... For now, I only post
the odd stuff I come across... Problem is, I cant hardly ID all the odd
stuff... I'm always picking up stuff from Central and South America that I
cant ID using the lists I have... Especially between 7:00 and 10:00 UTC.
Great time to hear all sorts of odd stuff here... Problem is....When I ask
for help or info ID'ing a questionable signal, I get some arrogant self
important DX JACK-ASS telling me to learn how to use my radio....

Actually, if a signal isn't beamed to my area I consider it to be DX.
Even if it is VOA. I hear a lot of Asian domestic SW from here in
California, and rely on the lists to tell me what I'm listening to
because I can't decipher Chinese much less Laotian (the Radio Free Asia
log I had). I AM disappointed that I can't seem to hear anything from
the Middle East here, considering how "hot" that region is in political
terms. I used to be able to hear morning prayers and Quran readings live
from Saudi Arabia on 15170 after 0300, but not now. I've NEVER heard
Iran in English, which I'd like to (my only log of them is in Farsi). If
you look at my log that I recently posted, you'll see VOA and RN and RA
and the big boys, but you'll also see CNR in Uighur (according to
Passport, where DO they speak Uighur anyway?) and RFA in Laotian (only
heard them in Chinese previously). And you'll see Indonesia and other
Asian countries that you just can't hear on the east coast. (Similarly,
I usually can't hear Africa.) I'd love to listen between 0700 and 1000
but I'm asleep then, it's the middle of the night in California. As for
South America, transmitters change hands often down there and the
station names change too, so don't be surprised if you can't ID
something in Spanish. Fortunately, you can learn some Spanish at your
local community college, which will help you ID these stations.


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"running dogg" wrote in message
...
Michael wrote:


"running dogg" wrote in message
...
I take the time to post dx logs, and they're ignored, except by Tebo who
corrects one of my assumptions. But people who post off topic get
zillions of responses, most of them childish insults from the likes of
Ace. David never lacks for attention. But my logs? ZZZZZZZZ
(apparently)
Is this REALLY a shortwave radio group? Or just another place for
people
to insult each other and act passive aggressive?




I used to post my "speed logs" all the time... For the most part, there
was
nothing all too interesting about my speed logs because I was just
listing
the "big boys"... No surprises.... Ya know ??? So... For now, I only post
the odd stuff I come across... Problem is, I cant hardly ID all the odd
stuff... I'm always picking up stuff from Central and South America that
I
cant ID using the lists I have... Especially between 7:00 and 10:00 UTC.
Great time to hear all sorts of odd stuff here... Problem is....When I
ask
for help or info ID'ing a questionable signal, I get some arrogant self
important DX JACK-ASS telling me to learn how to use my radio....

Actually, if a signal isn't beamed to my area I consider it to be DX.
Even if it is VOA. I hear a lot of Asian domestic SW from here in
California, and rely on the lists to tell me what I'm listening to
because I can't decipher Chinese much less Laotian (the Radio Free Asia
log I had). I AM disappointed that I can't seem to hear anything from
the Middle East here, considering how "hot" that region is in political
terms. I used to be able to hear morning prayers and Quran readings live
from Saudi Arabia on 15170 after 0300, but not now. I've NEVER heard
Iran in English, which I'd like to (my only log of them is in Farsi).

I used to hear VOIRI in English regularly. I don't remember the time slot,
but I think it was either 6:30 PM EST or 7:30 PM EST. I remember that
because that was when I got home from work at night and it was always on. It
was about three or four years ago. For what ever reason, if I what I heard
was what I thought was what I heard, they switched from English to Spanish
for that time slot and I gave up on it. From what I remember, It was a
heavy duty propaganda rag.... I'm sure there is some one here that knows
the exact time slot I'm talking about and whey they Switched to Spanish and
why...

Michael

"Michael" wrote in message
...

"running dogg" wrote in message
...
Michael wrote:


"running dogg" wrote in message
...
I take the time to post dx logs, and they're ignored, except by Tebo
who
corrects one of my assumptions. But people who post off topic get
zillions of responses, most of them childish insults from the likes of
Ace. David never lacks for attention. But my logs? ZZZZZZZZ
(apparently)
Is this REALLY a shortwave radio group? Or just another place for
people
to insult each other and act passive aggressive?




I used to post my "speed logs" all the time... For the most part, there
was
nothing all too interesting about my speed logs because I was just
listing
the "big boys"... No surprises.... Ya know ??? So... For now, I only
post
the odd stuff I come across... Problem is, I cant hardly ID all the odd
stuff... I'm always picking up stuff from Central and South America that
I
cant ID using the lists I have... Especially between 7:00 and 10:00 UTC.
Great time to hear all sorts of odd stuff here... Problem is....When I
ask
for help or info ID'ing a questionable signal, I get some arrogant self
important DX JACK-ASS telling me to learn how to use my radio....

Actually, if a signal isn't beamed to my area I consider it to be DX.
Even if it is VOA. I hear a lot of Asian domestic SW from here in
California, and rely on the lists to tell me what I'm listening to
because I can't decipher Chinese much less Laotian (the Radio Free Asia
log I had). I AM disappointed that I can't seem to hear anything from
the Middle East here, considering how "hot" that region is in political
terms. I used to be able to hear morning prayers and Quran readings live
from Saudi Arabia on 15170 after 0300, but not now. I've NEVER heard
Iran in English, which I'd like to (my only log of them is in Farsi).

I used to hear VOIRI in English regularly. I don't remember the time
slot, but I think it was either 6:30 PM EST or 7:30 PM EST. I remember
that because that was when I got home from work at night and it was always
on. It was about three or four years ago. For what ever reason, if I what
I heard was what I thought was what I heard, they switched from English to
Spanish for that time slot and I gave up on it. From what I remember, It
was a heavy duty propaganda rag.... I'm sure there is some one here that
knows the exact time slot I'm talking about and whey they Switched to
Spanish and why...

CORRECTION: I'm sure there is some one here that knows
the exact time slot I'm talking about and WHEN they Switched to Spanish
and why...

Michael

running dogg wrote:

Michael wrote:


"running dogg" wrote in message
...
I take the time to post dx logs, and they're ignored, except by Tebo who
corrects one of my assumptions. But people who post off topic get
zillions of responses, most of them childish insults from the likes of
Ace. David never lacks for attention. But my logs? ZZZZZZZZ (apparently)
Is this REALLY a shortwave radio group? Or just another place for people
to insult each other and act passive aggressive?




I used to post my "speed logs" all the time... For the most part, there was
nothing all too interesting about my speed logs because I was just listing
the "big boys"... No surprises.... Ya know ??? So... For now, I only post
the odd stuff I come across... Problem is, I cant hardly ID all the odd
stuff... I'm always picking up stuff from Central and South America that I
cant ID using the lists I have... Especially between 7:00 and 10:00 UTC.
Great time to hear all sorts of odd stuff here... Problem is....When I ask
for help or info ID'ing a questionable signal, I get some arrogant self
important DX JACK-ASS telling me to learn how to use my radio....

Actually, if a signal isn't beamed to my area I consider it to be DX.
Even if it is VOA. I hear a lot of Asian domestic SW from here in
California, and rely on the lists to tell me what I'm listening to
because I can't decipher Chinese much less Laotian (the Radio Free Asia
log I had). I AM disappointed that I can't seem to hear anything from
the Middle East here, considering how "hot" that region is in political
terms. I used to be able to hear morning prayers and Quran readings live
from Saudi Arabia on 15170 after 0300, but not now. I've NEVER heard
Iran in English, which I'd like to (my only log of them is in Farsi). If
you look at my log that I recently posted, you'll see VOA and RN and RA
and the big boys, but you'll also see CNR in Uighur (according to
Passport, where DO they speak Uighur anyway?)

In Xinjiang province in China, and there are some speakers in Kazakhstan as well.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

used to hear VOIRI in English regularly. I don't remember the time
slot,
but I think it was either 6:30 PM EST or 7:30 PM EST. I remember that
because that was when I got home from work at night and it was always
on. It
was about three or four years ago. For what ever reason, if I what I
heard
was what I thought was what I heard, they switched from English to
Spanish
for that time slot and I gave up on it. From what I remember, It was a

heavy duty propaganda rag.... I'm sure there is some one here that
knows
the exact time slot I'm talking about and whey they Switched to Spanish
and
why...

Michael


Michael,

Try listening on 6120 khz at 8:30EST. VOIRI comes on then and
broadcasts in English for about an hour. Their start time can be
irregular, though. Over the last couple of weeks, I've heard them start
ten and even fifteen minutes late. Sometimes the broadcast ends
abruptly as well. Still, they occasionally have a very strong signal on
the East Coast and there's a listenable signal for them on most nights.


Steve

running dogg wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article , running dogg wrote:

I take the time to post dx logs, and they're ignored, except by Tebo
who corrects one of my assumptions. But people who post off topic get
zillions of responses, most of them childish insults from the likes
of Ace. David never lacks for attention. But my logs? ZZZZZZZZ
(apparently) Is this REALLY a shortwave radio group? Or just another
place for people to insult each other and act passive aggressive?

Probably for the same reason I keep answering the same antenna
questions over and over again. Sometimes to the same people.

Actively insulting someone is being aggressive not being passive
aggressive.

I read your logs. I noticed you spent time on the 31 meter band.

I don't want to pick apart the logs you post but it is useful to know
what people like you are able to hear.



Tomorrow morning I may try tuning around 19m in hopes of hearing some
Arabic from Middle Eastern stations. I noticed that the Saudis have a
prayer service on 15205 between 1600-1800. I'll have to recheck Radio
Farda freqs for that time too.

Though it is on 15205, 13710 is much better here. It is also on 17560.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

In article ,
(Mark Zenier) wrote:

In article , running dogg wrote:
Tomorrow morning I may try tuning around 19m in hopes of hearing some
Arabic from Middle Eastern stations. I noticed that the Saudis have a
prayer service on 15205 between 1600-1800. I'll have to recheck Radio

17:19 UTC Mar 4, in Seattle. Barely a carrier that I had to use sideband
to pick up.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident

Maybe the US west coast is in the skip zone for the middle eastern
transmitters. Signals could be bouncing right over us.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 19:49:12 -0800, running dogg wrote:

I take the time to post dx logs, and they're ignored, except by Tebo who
corrects one of my assumptions. But people who post off topic get
zillions of responses, most of them childish insults from the likes of
Ace. David never lacks for attention. But my logs? ZZZZZZZZ (apparently)
Is this REALLY a shortwave radio group? Or just another place for people
to insult each other and act passive aggressive?


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Welcome to the 'Net! LOL

I post my logs on occasion too, but really, how many people actually
read them to correct them. I look at others logs to see if 1) they're
anywhere near me, and then 2) if theyhave something rare, whether I
can hear it.

The thing about the 'Net is that everyone can get rude, nasty and
ugly, things that they cannot do in real life for one reason or
another. That's the big attraction. Oh, and don't forget the
supposed "anonymity" factor. Some people delight in tormenting others
because they feel they can not be tracked down. This is true only in
few cases. Most folks aren't thorough enough.

You can be anyone you want on the 'Net, and can stir up a ****storm
the likes of which the world has never seen. Just witness the posts
here. Some folks think for days on a question to pose that will
generate such a maelstrom of replies. This is their life.

Me? I'll stick to posting and reading logs, Dogg! :-D

Al

Tebojockey (ASA Lives!)

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You can be anyone you want on the 'Net, and can stir up a ****storm
the likes of which the world has never seen. Just witness the posts
here. Some folks think for days on a question to pose that will
generate such a maelstrom of replies. This is their life.

On an internet board local to me, there was somebody who came in and
took over the board, posting 30 times a day (out of 40 posts a day) and
insulting everyone, trying to get people banned from the group, etc.
Things have quieted down now, but she's still there, insulting people
and making stupid remarks. I've had a net connection for 10 years, so
I'm used to it, but it's still frustrating.

Use a kill file. A stinking Troll can post 1000 a day and it won't
matter to you. Ignoring Trolls works. We just had one come and go in
record time. He probable would have left even sooner if the one or two
people still responding to him would have stopped. These jerks live to
get a rise out of you and will leave if ignored. ignoring them deprives
them of their "fun."

Me? I'll stick to posting and reading logs, Dogg! :-D

I'll post logs whenever I get a chance.

You do that.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:

In article , running dogg wrote:

Snip

You can be anyone you want on the 'Net, and can stir up a ****storm
the likes of which the world has never seen. Just witness the posts
here. Some folks think for days on a question to pose that will
generate such a maelstrom of replies. This is their life.

On an internet board local to me, there was somebody who came in and
took over the board, posting 30 times a day (out of 40 posts a day) and
insulting everyone, trying to get people banned from the group, etc.
Things have quieted down now, but she's still there, insulting people
and making stupid remarks. I've had a net connection for 10 years, so
I'm used to it, but it's still frustrating.

Use a kill file. A stinking Troll can post 1000 a day and it won't
matter to you. Ignoring Trolls works. We just had one come and go in
record time. He probable would have left even sooner if the one or two
people still responding to him would have stopped. These jerks live to
get a rise out of you and will leave if ignored. ignoring them deprives
them of their "fun."

This particular board (the local one) is Web based and doesn't have a
killfile. However, you can "flag" individual posts for removal by the
admins, and they can ban certain email addresses. On here, I can easily
ignore certain posters without a killfile since on usenet each article
has to have an "author name" and the vast majority of trolls aren't
smart enough to keep changing it. The smarter ones keep changing their
email addresses to avoid killfiles, but not their author names. So their
posts are easily recognizable and ignorable. I should take my own advice
and stop responding to political posts, I tend to be rather passionate
about politics but this isn't the place for it.

Me? I'll stick to posting and reading logs, Dogg! :-D

I'll post logs whenever I get a chance.

You do that.

I will. Usually I don't wake up early enough to do some DXing, but I
will be doing so in the future most likely, so I will be posting more
logs. Usually I just focus on one band a day and write down everything I
can hear on that band, which means my logs are a mix of big boys and
small stations.


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