"running dogg" wrote in message
...
I take the time to post dx logs, and they're ignored, except by Tebo who
corrects one of my assumptions. But people who post off topic get
zillions of responses, most of them childish insults from the likes of
Ace. David never lacks for attention. But my logs? ZZZZZZZZ (apparently)
Is this REALLY a shortwave radio group? Or just another place for people
to insult each other and act passive aggressive?




I used to post my "speed logs" all the time... For the most part, there was
nothing all too interesting about my speed logs because I was just listing
the "big boys"... No surprises.... Ya know ??? So... For now, I only post
the odd stuff I come across... Problem is, I cant hardly ID all the odd
stuff... I'm always picking up stuff from Central and South America that I
cant ID using the lists I have... Especially between 7:00 and 10:00 UTC.
Great time to hear all sorts of odd stuff here... Problem is....When I ask
for help or info ID'ing a questionable signal, I get some arrogant self
important DX JACK-ASS telling me to learn how to use my radio....

Michael

Michael wrote:


"running dogg" wrote in message
...
I take the time to post dx logs, and they're ignored, except by Tebo who
corrects one of my assumptions. But people who post off topic get
zillions of responses, most of them childish insults from the likes of
Ace. David never lacks for attention. But my logs? ZZZZZZZZ (apparently)
Is this REALLY a shortwave radio group? Or just another place for people
to insult each other and act passive aggressive?




I used to post my "speed logs" all the time... For the most part, there was
nothing all too interesting about my speed logs because I was just listing
the "big boys"... No surprises.... Ya know ??? So... For now, I only post
the odd stuff I come across... Problem is, I cant hardly ID all the odd
stuff... I'm always picking up stuff from Central and South America that I
cant ID using the lists I have... Especially between 7:00 and 10:00 UTC.
Great time to hear all sorts of odd stuff here... Problem is....When I ask
for help or info ID'ing a questionable signal, I get some arrogant self
important DX JACK-ASS telling me to learn how to use my radio....

Actually, if a signal isn't beamed to my area I consider it to be DX.
Even if it is VOA. I hear a lot of Asian domestic SW from here in
California, and rely on the lists to tell me what I'm listening to
because I can't decipher Chinese much less Laotian (the Radio Free Asia
log I had). I AM disappointed that I can't seem to hear anything from
the Middle East here, considering how "hot" that region is in political
terms. I used to be able to hear morning prayers and Quran readings live
from Saudi Arabia on 15170 after 0300, but not now. I've NEVER heard
Iran in English, which I'd like to (my only log of them is in Farsi). If
you look at my log that I recently posted, you'll see VOA and RN and RA
and the big boys, but you'll also see CNR in Uighur (according to
Passport, where DO they speak Uighur anyway?) and RFA in Laotian (only
heard them in Chinese previously). And you'll see Indonesia and other
Asian countries that you just can't hear on the east coast. (Similarly,
I usually can't hear Africa.) I'd love to listen between 0700 and 1000
but I'm asleep then, it's the middle of the night in California. As for
South America, transmitters change hands often down there and the
station names change too, so don't be surprised if you can't ID
something in Spanish. Fortunately, you can learn some Spanish at your
local community college, which will help you ID these stations.


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"running dogg" wrote in message
...
Michael wrote:


"running dogg" wrote in message
...
I take the time to post dx logs, and they're ignored, except by Tebo who
corrects one of my assumptions. But people who post off topic get
zillions of responses, most of them childish insults from the likes of
Ace. David never lacks for attention. But my logs? ZZZZZZZZ
(apparently)
Is this REALLY a shortwave radio group? Or just another place for
people
to insult each other and act passive aggressive?




I used to post my "speed logs" all the time... For the most part, there
was
nothing all too interesting about my speed logs because I was just
listing
the "big boys"... No surprises.... Ya know ??? So... For now, I only post
the odd stuff I come across... Problem is, I cant hardly ID all the odd
stuff... I'm always picking up stuff from Central and South America that
I
cant ID using the lists I have... Especially between 7:00 and 10:00 UTC.
Great time to hear all sorts of odd stuff here... Problem is....When I
ask
for help or info ID'ing a questionable signal, I get some arrogant self
important DX JACK-ASS telling me to learn how to use my radio....

Actually, if a signal isn't beamed to my area I consider it to be DX.
Even if it is VOA. I hear a lot of Asian domestic SW from here in
California, and rely on the lists to tell me what I'm listening to
because I can't decipher Chinese much less Laotian (the Radio Free Asia
log I had). I AM disappointed that I can't seem to hear anything from
the Middle East here, considering how "hot" that region is in political
terms. I used to be able to hear morning prayers and Quran readings live
from Saudi Arabia on 15170 after 0300, but not now. I've NEVER heard
Iran in English, which I'd like to (my only log of them is in Farsi).

I used to hear VOIRI in English regularly. I don't remember the time slot,
but I think it was either 6:30 PM EST or 7:30 PM EST. I remember that
because that was when I got home from work at night and it was always on. It
was about three or four years ago. For what ever reason, if I what I heard
was what I thought was what I heard, they switched from English to Spanish
for that time slot and I gave up on it. From what I remember, It was a
heavy duty propaganda rag.... I'm sure there is some one here that knows
the exact time slot I'm talking about and whey they Switched to Spanish and
why...

Michael

"Michael" wrote in message
...

"running dogg" wrote in message
...
Michael wrote:


"running dogg" wrote in message
...
I take the time to post dx logs, and they're ignored, except by Tebo
who
corrects one of my assumptions. But people who post off topic get
zillions of responses, most of them childish insults from the likes of
Ace. David never lacks for attention. But my logs? ZZZZZZZZ
(apparently)
Is this REALLY a shortwave radio group? Or just another place for
people
to insult each other and act passive aggressive?




I used to post my "speed logs" all the time... For the most part, there
was
nothing all too interesting about my speed logs because I was just
listing
the "big boys"... No surprises.... Ya know ??? So... For now, I only
post
the odd stuff I come across... Problem is, I cant hardly ID all the odd
stuff... I'm always picking up stuff from Central and South America that
I
cant ID using the lists I have... Especially between 7:00 and 10:00 UTC.
Great time to hear all sorts of odd stuff here... Problem is....When I
ask
for help or info ID'ing a questionable signal, I get some arrogant self
important DX JACK-ASS telling me to learn how to use my radio....

Actually, if a signal isn't beamed to my area I consider it to be DX.
Even if it is VOA. I hear a lot of Asian domestic SW from here in
California, and rely on the lists to tell me what I'm listening to
because I can't decipher Chinese much less Laotian (the Radio Free Asia
log I had). I AM disappointed that I can't seem to hear anything from
the Middle East here, considering how "hot" that region is in political
terms. I used to be able to hear morning prayers and Quran readings live
from Saudi Arabia on 15170 after 0300, but not now. I've NEVER heard
Iran in English, which I'd like to (my only log of them is in Farsi).

I used to hear VOIRI in English regularly. I don't remember the time
slot, but I think it was either 6:30 PM EST or 7:30 PM EST. I remember
that because that was when I got home from work at night and it was always
on. It was about three or four years ago. For what ever reason, if I what
I heard was what I thought was what I heard, they switched from English to
Spanish for that time slot and I gave up on it. From what I remember, It
was a heavy duty propaganda rag.... I'm sure there is some one here that
knows the exact time slot I'm talking about and whey they Switched to
Spanish and why...

CORRECTION: I'm sure there is some one here that knows
the exact time slot I'm talking about and WHEN they Switched to Spanish
and why...

Michael

used to hear VOIRI in English regularly. I don't remember the time
slot,
but I think it was either 6:30 PM EST or 7:30 PM EST. I remember that
because that was when I got home from work at night and it was always
on. It
was about three or four years ago. For what ever reason, if I what I
heard
was what I thought was what I heard, they switched from English to
Spanish
for that time slot and I gave up on it. From what I remember, It was a

heavy duty propaganda rag.... I'm sure there is some one here that
knows
the exact time slot I'm talking about and whey they Switched to Spanish
and
why...

Michael


Michael,

Try listening on 6120 khz at 8:30EST. VOIRI comes on then and
broadcasts in English for about an hour. Their start time can be
irregular, though. Over the last couple of weeks, I've heard them start
ten and even fifteen minutes late. Sometimes the broadcast ends
abruptly as well. Still, they occasionally have a very strong signal on
the East Coast and there's a listenable signal for them on most nights.


Steve

running dogg wrote:

Michael wrote:


"running dogg" wrote in message
...
I take the time to post dx logs, and they're ignored, except by Tebo who
corrects one of my assumptions. But people who post off topic get
zillions of responses, most of them childish insults from the likes of
Ace. David never lacks for attention. But my logs? ZZZZZZZZ (apparently)
Is this REALLY a shortwave radio group? Or just another place for people
to insult each other and act passive aggressive?




I used to post my "speed logs" all the time... For the most part, there was
nothing all too interesting about my speed logs because I was just listing
the "big boys"... No surprises.... Ya know ??? So... For now, I only post
the odd stuff I come across... Problem is, I cant hardly ID all the odd
stuff... I'm always picking up stuff from Central and South America that I
cant ID using the lists I have... Especially between 7:00 and 10:00 UTC.
Great time to hear all sorts of odd stuff here... Problem is....When I ask
for help or info ID'ing a questionable signal, I get some arrogant self
important DX JACK-ASS telling me to learn how to use my radio....

Actually, if a signal isn't beamed to my area I consider it to be DX.
Even if it is VOA. I hear a lot of Asian domestic SW from here in
California, and rely on the lists to tell me what I'm listening to
because I can't decipher Chinese much less Laotian (the Radio Free Asia
log I had). I AM disappointed that I can't seem to hear anything from
the Middle East here, considering how "hot" that region is in political
terms. I used to be able to hear morning prayers and Quran readings live
from Saudi Arabia on 15170 after 0300, but not now. I've NEVER heard
Iran in English, which I'd like to (my only log of them is in Farsi). If
you look at my log that I recently posted, you'll see VOA and RN and RA
and the big boys, but you'll also see CNR in Uighur (according to
Passport, where DO they speak Uighur anyway?)

In Xinjiang province in China, and there are some speakers in Kazakhstan as well.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 19:49:12 -0800, running dogg wrote:

I take the time to post dx logs, and they're ignored, except by Tebo who
corrects one of my assumptions. But people who post off topic get
zillions of responses, most of them childish insults from the likes of
Ace. David never lacks for attention. But my logs? ZZZZZZZZ (apparently)
Is this REALLY a shortwave radio group? Or just another place for people
to insult each other and act passive aggressive?


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Welcome to the 'Net! LOL

I post my logs on occasion too, but really, how many people actually
read them to correct them. I look at others logs to see if 1) they're
anywhere near me, and then 2) if theyhave something rare, whether I
can hear it.

The thing about the 'Net is that everyone can get rude, nasty and
ugly, things that they cannot do in real life for one reason or
another. That's the big attraction. Oh, and don't forget the
supposed "anonymity" factor. Some people delight in tormenting others
because they feel they can not be tracked down. This is true only in
few cases. Most folks aren't thorough enough.

You can be anyone you want on the 'Net, and can stir up a ****storm
the likes of which the world has never seen. Just witness the posts
here. Some folks think for days on a question to pose that will
generate such a maelstrom of replies. This is their life.

Me? I'll stick to posting and reading logs, Dogg! :-D

Al

Tebojockey (ASA Lives!)

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In article , says...
I take the time to post dx logs, and they're ignored, except by Tebo who
corrects one of my assumptions. But people who post off topic get
zillions of responses, most of them childish insults from the likes of
Ace. David never lacks for attention. But my logs? ZZZZZZZZ (apparently)
Is this REALLY a shortwave radio group? Or just another place for people
to insult each other and act passive aggressive?

I=3Fve been away for a while, but I have seen that log postings don=3Ft
generally cause a lot of discussion. Stewart MacKenzie has been posting
his loggings on here for years, for example, and doesn=3Ft get much in the
way of direct replies. What=3Fs to say, after all? You heard =3Fem, good
for you, and thanks for the info which will help me pick =3Fem up.

The problem with some of the other so-called discussions are that
someone comes in with a hot-button post, and a lot of folks feel it
their sworn duty to either tell him to get lost, or drop down to his
level and get embroiled in a nasty posting war.

Personally, I suggest you treat =3Fem like jammers: ignore them. Most
newsreaders have a =3Ftwit filter=3F or =3Fbozo bin=3F where you can add
individual twits/bozos to a list, and postings from those people will
subsequently be ignored. Works pretty well for me.

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-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:

It is the way some webmasters have the fonts in their servers (or
something like that) or browsers set up.I once read about that,but it
didn't interest me all that much so I forgot about it. =F &mdash
cuhuln

In article ,
says...
It is the way some webmasters have the fonts in their servers (or
something like that) or browsers set up.I once read about that,but it
didn't interest me all that much so I forgot about it. =F &mdash

Not using the web, though -- using Gravity and composing offline.
Nothing has changed at this end, so I wonder if perhaps my ISP has
farbled around with things. Prior to this I was using Individual.net as
my non-binaries news feed, but they went to fee-based instead of free so
I need to find another one. (I have RoadRunner as my ISP and I can only
access it from a RoadRunner Internet connection, which sucks when I
travel, which is why I used Individual.net instead.)

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-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email: