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Old March 6th 05, 10:11 PM
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I run the shield to ground, common ground.

Burr


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The inner (center) and outer conductor (shield) of the coax. Generally
there will be no preference as to which way the loop is connected.


In article W3LWd.41917$uc.5522@trnddc01, "Burr"
wrote:

In and OUT, what are you talking about???
I only have one jack and I run a long wire and if I run a loop I
would
still only use one end and be sure to slope it so the sigs don't hit at
the
say time.


Burr


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In article .com,
"Smokey" wrote:

I just hung about 200 feet of wire in a straight line .

Would there be any benifit to doubling back?

I ran out of property space..

That depends. If you double it back next to the length of wire already
run then it will not do much of anything. However, you could make a
loop
out of it. As an example if you already have a 200 foot run to the back
of the yard you could then continue it across the back of the yard and
then back to the house.

You would have created a triangular loop with three sides of more than
400 feet. That is a good size loop. The ends of the loop would be
connected to the inner and outer coax conductors. Which end loop is
connect to the inner conductor probably does not matter except for the
local noise it will pick up.

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Telamon
Ventura, California


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Old March 6th 05, 10:14 PM
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If you have an unbalanced or "half an antenna" or "Marconi type antenna"
that's the right thing to do but not for a balance antenna.

In article feLWd.41921$uc.37216@trnddc01, "Burr"
wrote:

I run the shield to ground, common ground.

Burr


"Telamon" wrote in message
..
.
The inner (center) and outer conductor (shield) of the coax. Generally
there will be no preference as to which way the loop is connected.


In article W3LWd.41917$uc.5522@trnddc01, "Burr"
wrote:

In and OUT, what are you talking about???
I only have one jack and I run a long wire and if I run a loop I
would
still only use one end and be sure to slope it so the sigs don't hit at
the
say time.


Burr


"Telamon" wrote in message

m..
.
In article .com,
"Smokey" wrote:

I just hung about 200 feet of wire in a straight line .

Would there be any benifit to doubling back?

I ran out of property space..

That depends. If you double it back next to the length of wire already
run then it will not do much of anything. However, you could make a
loop
out of it. As an example if you already have a 200 foot run to the back
of the yard you could then continue it across the back of the yard and
then back to the house.

You would have created a triangular loop with three sides of more than
400 feet. That is a good size loop. The ends of the loop would be
connected to the inner and outer coax conductors. Which end loop is
connect to the inner conductor probably does not matter except for the
local noise it will pick up.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


--
Telamon
Ventura, California


--
Telamon
Ventura, California
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Old March 6th 05, 10:16 PM
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AND,

I run naked wire, copper then splice it to the coax through the wall and
around the wires in the house to keep the EMF off the antenna. The ground
bleeds off any EMF that hits the lead.

Burr




"Burr" wrote in message
news:feLWd.41921$uc.37216@trnddc01...
I run the shield to ground, common ground.

Burr


"Telamon" wrote in message
...
The inner (center) and outer conductor (shield) of the coax. Generally
there will be no preference as to which way the loop is connected.


In article W3LWd.41917$uc.5522@trnddc01, "Burr"
wrote:

In and OUT, what are you talking about???
I only have one jack and I run a long wire and if I run a loop I
would
still only use one end and be sure to slope it so the sigs don't hit at
the
say time.


Burr


"Telamon" wrote in message
..
.
In article .com,
"Smokey" wrote:

I just hung about 200 feet of wire in a straight line .

Would there be any benifit to doubling back?

I ran out of property space..

That depends. If you double it back next to the length of wire already
run then it will not do much of anything. However, you could make a
loop
out of it. As an example if you already have a 200 foot run to the
back
of the yard you could then continue it across the back of the yard and
then back to the house.

You would have created a triangular loop with three sides of more than
400 feet. That is a good size loop. The ends of the loop would be
connected to the inner and outer coax conductors. Which end loop is
connect to the inner conductor probably does not matter except for the
local noise it will pick up.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


--
Telamon
Ventura, California





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Old March 6th 05, 11:25 PM
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If I understand you then you have a single wire antenna outside the
trailer and you ground the coax shield to the trailer (and other ground
wires) at the point where the wire comes through the trailer wall. This
sounds like a workable random wire antenna based on the fact that the
trailer has metal over most of its surface area.


In article SiLWd.41922$uc.24102@trnddc01, "Burr"
wrote:

AND,

I run naked wire, copper then splice it to the coax through the wall and
around the wires in the house to keep the EMF off the antenna. The ground
bleeds off any EMF that hits the lead.

Burr




"Burr" wrote in message
news:feLWd.41921$uc.37216@trnddc01...
I run the shield to ground, common ground.

Burr


"Telamon" wrote in message

...
The inner (center) and outer conductor (shield) of the coax. Generally
there will be no preference as to which way the loop is connected.


In article W3LWd.41917$uc.5522@trnddc01, "Burr"
wrote:

In and OUT, what are you talking about???
I only have one jack and I run a long wire and if I run a loop I
would
still only use one end and be sure to slope it so the sigs don't hit at
the
say time.


Burr


"Telamon" wrote in message

om..
.
In article .com,
"Smokey" wrote:

I just hung about 200 feet of wire in a straight line .

Would there be any benifit to doubling back?

I ran out of property space..

That depends. If you double it back next to the length of wire already
run then it will not do much of anything. However, you could make a
loop
out of it. As an example if you already have a 200 foot run to the
back
of the yard you could then continue it across the back of the yard and
then back to the house.

You would have created a triangular loop with three sides of more than
400 feet. That is a good size loop. The ends of the loop would be
connected to the inner and outer coax conductors. Which end loop is
connect to the inner conductor probably does not matter except for the
local noise it will pick up.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

--
Telamon
Ventura, California




--
Telamon
Ventura, California
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Old March 6th 05, 11:40 PM
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O Telamon,
I have a house in Ridgecrest, I run a longwire around the eves and into
the house. I have an earth ground where I ground everything. I use battery
power to run all my radios.

Down south where I keep my travel trailer where I say a few days a week
I use a Sony AN-1 and a Dipole on my scanner.

When I take my motor home out I use a Sony-AN1 or a Yo-Yo and sometimes
I use the double I got from Bill years ago. I also use "ears" for my CB so I
can get road reports.

When I camp in my tent I use a Single Yo-Yo or the built in antenna.

Burr

PS: Sorry Bill didn't say good bye to you!!!!


"Telamon" wrote in message
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If I understand you then you have a single wire antenna outside the
trailer and you ground the coax shield to the trailer (and other ground
wires) at the point where the wire comes through the trailer wall. This
sounds like a workable random wire antenna based on the fact that the
trailer has metal over most of its surface area.


In article SiLWd.41922$uc.24102@trnddc01, "Burr"
wrote:

AND,

I run naked wire, copper then splice it to the coax through the wall
and
around the wires in the house to keep the EMF off the antenna. The ground
bleeds off any EMF that hits the lead.

Burr




"Burr" wrote in message
news:feLWd.41921$uc.37216@trnddc01...
I run the shield to ground, common ground.

Burr


"Telamon" wrote in message

...
The inner (center) and outer conductor (shield) of the coax. Generally
there will be no preference as to which way the loop is connected.


In article W3LWd.41917$uc.5522@trnddc01, "Burr"
wrote:

In and OUT, what are you talking about???
I only have one jack and I run a long wire and if I run a loop I
would
still only use one end and be sure to slope it so the sigs don't hit
at
the
say time.


Burr


"Telamon" wrote in
message

om..
.
In article .com,
"Smokey" wrote:

I just hung about 200 feet of wire in a straight line .

Would there be any benifit to doubling back?

I ran out of property space..

That depends. If you double it back next to the length of wire
already
run then it will not do much of anything. However, you could make a
loop
out of it. As an example if you already have a 200 foot run to the
back
of the yard you could then continue it across the back of the yard
and
then back to the house.

You would have created a triangular loop with three sides of more
than
400 feet. That is a good size loop. The ends of the loop would be
connected to the inner and outer coax conductors. Which end loop is
connect to the inner conductor probably does not matter except for
the
local noise it will pick up.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

--
Telamon
Ventura, California



--
Telamon
Ventura, California





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Old March 6th 05, 11:48 PM
Telamon
 
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Sounds good Burr.

PPS: I'm not. Good riddance.


In article 7yMWd.41929$uc.723@trnddc01, "Burr"
wrote:

O Telamon,
I have a house in Ridgecrest, I run a longwire around the eves and into
the house. I have an earth ground where I ground everything. I use battery
power to run all my radios.

Down south where I keep my travel trailer where I say a few days a week
I use a Sony AN-1 and a Dipole on my scanner.

When I take my motor home out I use a Sony-AN1 or a Yo-Yo and sometimes
I use the double I got from Bill years ago. I also use "ears" for my CB so I
can get road reports.

When I camp in my tent I use a Single Yo-Yo or the built in antenna.

Burr

PS: Sorry Bill didn't say good bye to you!!!!


"Telamon" wrote in message
..
.
If I understand you then you have a single wire antenna outside the
trailer and you ground the coax shield to the trailer (and other ground
wires) at the point where the wire comes through the trailer wall. This
sounds like a workable random wire antenna based on the fact that the
trailer has metal over most of its surface area.


In article SiLWd.41922$uc.24102@trnddc01, "Burr"
wrote:

AND,

I run naked wire, copper then splice it to the coax through the wall
and
around the wires in the house to keep the EMF off the antenna. The ground
bleeds off any EMF that hits the lead.

Burr




"Burr" wrote in message
news:feLWd.41921$uc.37216@trnddc01...
I run the shield to ground, common ground.

Burr


"Telamon" wrote in message
.
com
...
The inner (center) and outer conductor (shield) of the coax. Generally
there will be no preference as to which way the loop is connected.


In article W3LWd.41917$uc.5522@trnddc01, "Burr"
wrote:

In and OUT, what are you talking about???
I only have one jack and I run a long wire and if I run a loop I
would
still only use one end and be sure to slope it so the sigs don't hit
at
the
say time.


Burr


"Telamon" wrote in
message

y.c
om..
.
In article .com,
"Smokey" wrote:

I just hung about 200 feet of wire in a straight line .

Would there be any benifit to doubling back?

I ran out of property space..

That depends. If you double it back next to the length of wire
already
run then it will not do much of anything. However, you could make a
loop
out of it. As an example if you already have a 200 foot run to the
back
of the yard you could then continue it across the back of the yard
and
then back to the house.

You would have created a triangular loop with three sides of more
than
400 feet. That is a good size loop. The ends of the loop would be
connected to the inner and outer coax conductors. Which end loop is
connect to the inner conductor probably does not matter except for
the
local noise it will pick up.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

--
Telamon
Ventura, California



--
Telamon
Ventura, California


--
Telamon
Ventura, California
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