N.Korea (& China?) on the verge of collapse!
 

China & N. Korea launch harsh crackdowns

China arrests more than 800,000 people for endangering state security

“State Security” arrests top 800,000 in 2004, and show no signs of slowing
down: The number of people arrested by the Communists for “endangering state
security” (Asia News) – the cadres’ catch-all crime for doing anything of
which they do not approve – was 811,102 last year.

http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=2731

2005 is promising to be another busy year for the brutal dictatorship – over
2,000 “appellants,” i.e., petitioners bringing their grievances against
local cadres back home to Beijing – have been arrested

Since convening China’s top advisory board, the National Committee of
Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference on March 3, the police
presence on the streets of Beijing has multiplied, with police vehicles
running in every direction.

The amount of public security this year is staggering, and seems to suggest
a growing fear coming from the Chinese government. Preceding the two
conferences, police, public security, national security, armed police,
plainclothes police and urban riot police filled the main streets and small
alleys of Beijing, overflowing into the surrounding areas. Many of the
police are from provinces, cities and autonomous regions sent to “defend the
two conferences.” The government is using more than 600,000 state personnel
to “protect” the several thousand officials attending the conferences.

http://english.epochtimes.com/news/5-3-10/26930.html
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"Li Changchun" wrote in
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Ah, I see that you do post. Sorry for the confusion.

I look at a specific number of posts, either by poster or subject, and I
have not remembered your posts.

Excellent article on Propaganda at Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Coincidentally, it has a North Korean Poster at the top of the page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda Can you tell us what it says?

Regretfully, my understanding of non-English languages is nil, I mean no
offense by my request, I am just curious if you can read it.

Regards

Dr. Artaud



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Unfortunately Dr., I do not understand Korean.

If you are interested in Korean "propaganda art" you may wish
to browse - http://www.pyongyangartstudio.com/
However, I would refrain from making any purchase.

"* Dr. Artaud *" wrote in message
...
"Li Changchun" wrote in
:

Ah, I see that you do post. Sorry for the confusion.

I look at a specific number of posts, either by poster or subject, and I
have not remembered your posts.

Excellent article on Propaganda at Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Coincidentally, it has a North Korean Poster at the top of the page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda Can you tell us what it says?

Regretfully, my understanding of non-English languages is nil, I mean no
offense by my request, I am just curious if you can read it.

Regards

Dr. Artaud



Enjoy the Voice of Korea propaganda in English:

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1000-1100 Z
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1300-1400 Z
9335 11710 kHz to N.America
4405 7570 12015 kHz to Europe

1500-1600 Z
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How much western debt does China hold? I think it is quite high,
particularly for the USA. This would mean grave economic problems for the
west if China is "on the verge of collapse". As for N Korea, they are so
disconnected from the world, no-one would notice except for those of us who
like the comedy of their SW broadcasts

Li Changchun wrote:

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N.Korea

N. Korea launches harsh crackdown
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Enjoy the Voice of Korea propaganda in English:

0100-0200 Z
11735 13760 15180 kHz to N.America

1000-1100 Z
9335 9850 kHz to N.America

1300-1400 Z
9335 11710 kHz to N.America
4405 7570 12015 kHz to Europe

1500-1600 Z
9335 11710 kHz to N.America
4405 7570 12015 kHz to Europe

1800-1900 Z
4405 7570 12015 kHz to Europe

2100-2200 Z
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"uncle arnie" wrote
How much western debt does China hold? I think it is quite high,
particularly for the USA. This would mean grave economic problems for the
west if China is "on the verge of collapse".

Hardly, in case of a China banking collapse financial arrangements can
always be made.
We are talking about paper after all. Not gold bullion. Perhaps WalMart
stock
will collapse but the $US always rallys in times of serious worldwide
calamity.
The Chinese $Yuan may become worthless.

As for N Korea, they are so
disconnected from the world, no-one would notice except for those of us
who
like the comedy of their SW broadcasts.

You are seriously mistaken. If the hermit kingdom collapses there will be a
human
tragedy on the peninsula. The economic costs to S.Korea will be worse than
what Germany has had to endure since the fall of the Berlin wall. Assuming
hoards of refugees begin to cross the DMZ. Which is very likely.

Then there is the geo-political question. Will China invade N.Korea and
claim
its territory for repayment of decades of economic support? Or will China
allow
a free and Democratic state to prosper on its economically suffering
Northeast
border with the peninsula? If so it would be a first as well as a strategic
blow
to the Communist regime in Beijing.

China historically prefers weak, non-threatening regimes as neighbors and
works
to maintain its supremacy over all its immediate neighbors.

Korean history extends into what is now Northeast China. There are Korean
claims to these lands. China is well aware of these claims and has
summarily
rewrote its history books in an attempt to erase these claims.

The best scenario for the West would be if one collapses immediately
followed by the other. Neither regime would stand which is why China
will not pressure N.Korea in regard to nuclear negotiations. China can
very easily resolve the nuclear issue since all of N.Korea's energy comes
from China. Simply turn off a spigot and flick the big switch and Kim Jong
Il
is complete history.


Li Changchun wrote:

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N.Korea

N. Korea launches harsh crackdown
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1000-1100 Z
9335 9850 kHz to N.America

1300-1400 Z
9335 11710 kHz to N.America
4405 7570 12015 kHz to Europe

1500-1600 Z
9335 11710 kHz to N.America
4405 7570 12015 kHz to Europe

1800-1900 Z
4405 7570 12015 kHz to Europe

2100-2200 Z
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Li Changchun wrote:


"uncle arnie" wrote
How much western debt does China hold? I think it is quite high,
particularly for the USA. This would mean grave economic problems for the
west if China is "on the verge of collapse".

Hardly, in case of a China banking collapse financial arrangements can
always be made.
We are talking about paper after all. Not gold bullion. Perhaps WalMart
stock
will collapse but the $US always rallys in times of serious worldwide
calamity.
The Chinese $Yuan may become worthless.

The Chinese are currently financing the US government. They hold a BIG
chunk of US debt. The West has shifted all its manufacturing facilities
to China so in the event of a China collapse there might be serious
shortages of most goods. I think your hatred of the CCP has blinded you
to the serious implications of a potential China collapse.

As for N Korea, they are so
disconnected from the world, no-one would notice except for those of us
who
like the comedy of their SW broadcasts.

You are seriously mistaken. If the hermit kingdom collapses there will be a
human
tragedy on the peninsula. The economic costs to S.Korea will be worse than
what Germany has had to endure since the fall of the Berlin wall. Assuming
hoards of refugees begin to cross the DMZ. Which is very likely.

The DMZ is the most fortified border on earth. The North Koreans have
gone to great lengths to make sure that nobody crosses. I'm not so sure
that hordes of refugees will be flooding across.

Then there is the geo-political question. Will China invade N.Korea and
claim
its territory for repayment of decades of economic support? Or will China
allow
a free and Democratic state to prosper on its economically suffering
Northeast
border with the peninsula? If so it would be a first as well as a strategic
blow
to the Communist regime in Beijing.

I don't think you'd see a democracy spring up in NK. They've had 60
years of harsh Stalinist rule. You'd more likely see a situation like in
Afghanistan before the Taliban, with a lot of local party bosses
becoming warlords and establishing fiefdoms. China may send troops to
ensure "stability". But I don't think China will invade South Korea. The
US is a major trading partner for China; the CCP is NOT going to start a
nuclear war with the US in the name of Communism.

China historically prefers weak, non-threatening regimes as neighbors and
works
to maintain its supremacy over all its immediate neighbors.

Korean history extends into what is now Northeast China. There are Korean
claims to these lands. China is well aware of these claims and has
summarily
rewrote its history books in an attempt to erase these claims.

The best scenario for the West would be if one collapses immediately
followed by the other. Neither regime would stand which is why China
will not pressure N.Korea in regard to nuclear negotiations. China can
very easily resolve the nuclear issue since all of N.Korea's energy comes
from China. Simply turn off a spigot and flick the big switch and Kim Jong
Il
is complete history.

If China thinks they can keep Kim from nuking Seoul, they may be sadly
mistaken. Unlike the massive bureaucracy that Communism has become in
China, in NK Kim is the end all and be all of government. He is totally
cut off from the rest of the world and lives in a dream world and is
much more likely to start a war with the US to "free" SK. If the US is
forced to invade NK because of Kim, the US will likely reach a quid pro
quo with the Chinese, keeping the Yalu River as the boundary between US
and Chinese troops. The mutual trade between China and the US means that
all out war between the two is not likely, even if China invades Taiwan.
The US establishment is not willing to have a nuclear war over Taiwan or
Korea.



Li Changchun wrote:

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N.Korea

N. Korea launches harsh crackdown
(interesting read)


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0100-0200 Z
11735 13760 15180 kHz to N.America

1000-1100 Z
9335 9850 kHz to N.America

1300-1400 Z
9335 11710 kHz to N.America
4405 7570 12015 kHz to Europe

1500-1600 Z
9335 11710 kHz to N.America
4405 7570 12015 kHz to Europe

1800-1900 Z
4405 7570 12015 kHz to Europe

2100-2200 Z
4405 7570 12015 kHz to Europe
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"running dogg"

The Chinese are currently financing the US government. They hold a BIG
chunk of US debt. The West has shifted all its manufacturing facilities
to China so in the event of a China collapse there might be serious
shortages of most goods.


What you are likely to see in China is the collapse of their banks, which
are
already insolvent and technically bankrupt, and the disentigration of the
CCP.
Neither of which will likely spell the end of their manufacturing base. In
the very short term there may be disruptions but it would quickly recover
and without the CCPoverhead possibly become much more robust.

I think your hatred of the CCP has blinded you
to the serious implications of a potential China collapse.

Your love of the CCP has seriously blinded you to a brutal muderous regime
which is deeply hated by their own people.

The DMZ is the most fortified border on earth. The North Koreans have
gone to great lengths to make sure that nobody crosses. I'm not so sure
that hordes of refugees will be flooding across.

If the N.Korean side of the DMZ becomes demilitarized because of a regime
colapse you can be sure that waves of refugees will find a way across or
around
it. China would also see refugees.

I don't think you'd see a democracy spring up in NK. They've had 60
years of harsh Stalinist rule. You'd more likely see a situation like in
Afghanistan before the Taliban, with a lot of local party bosses
becoming warlords and establishing fiefdoms.

I see you are assuming that another brutal regime will take hold.
But that is not the scenario I am discussing. Besides another
regime would simply collapse as quikely as the old.

China may send troops to
ensure "stability".

Indeed, and that would be viewed as a very provactive move in Seoul
and the West.

But I don't think China will invade South Korea. The
US is a major trading partner for China; the CCP is NOT going to start a
nuclear war with the US in the name of Communism.

Has it occured to you that whomever overthrows Kim Jong Il may well be
"friendly" with the South?

If China thinks they can keep Kim from nuking Seoul, they may be sadly
mistaken. Unlike the massive bureaucracy that Communism has become in
China, in NK Kim is the end all and be all of government. He is totally
cut off from the rest of the world and lives in a dream world and is
much more likely to start a war with the US to "free" SK. If the US is
forced to invade NK because of Kim, the US will likely reach a quid pro
quo with the Chinese, keeping the Yalu River as the boundary between US
and Chinese troops. The mutual trade between China and the US means that
all out war between the two is not likely, even if China invades Taiwan.
The US establishment is not willing to have a nuclear war over Taiwan or
Korea.

You make many assumptions here about many countries. China is well known
for saber rattling against Taiwan. Taiwan businesses invest heavily in
China as
well. The scenario of any nuclear exchange in the region is very remote.
Regarding
N.Korea, even if Kim Jong Il does indeed have a "couple" of nuclear tipped
weapons, considering the latest intelligence and if his military is even
slightly
coherent", they would likely depose of him and refrain.

In any case, nuclear weapons aside, the Korean peninsular would become
the immediate focus of attention in the West and Beijing and Seoul would
have
many urgent and pressing meetings to attend.

Li Changchun wrote:


"running dogg"

The Chinese are currently financing the US government. They hold a BIG
chunk of US debt. The West has shifted all its manufacturing facilities
to China so in the event of a China collapse there might be serious
shortages of most goods.


What you are likely to see in China is the collapse of their banks, which
are
already insolvent and technically bankrupt, and the disentigration of the
CCP.
Neither of which will likely spell the end of their manufacturing base. In
the very short term there may be disruptions but it would quickly recover
and without the CCPoverhead possibly become much more robust.

Possibly. But China has a tradition of warlord rule, and for much of its
history has been broken into feuding fiefdoms, despite the common
culture and language of the Chinese people. Then again, the same
situation persisted in Italy for a thousand years, and that country is
now stable and prosperous.

I think your hatred of the CCP has blinded you
to the serious implications of a potential China collapse.

Your love of the CCP has seriously blinded you to a brutal muderous regime
which is deeply hated by their own people.

You seem to make this same curious error over and over again, equating
any concern about China's stability and potential disruptions to the
west if that stability were to be disrupted with love of the CCP. I
doubt most westerners love the CCP, I sure don't. But it's the only
thing holding the country together. Like I said, China has a long,
bloody history of warlordism and civil war, and any collapse of the CCP
might bring a return to the bad old days. This bad situation-a brutal
dictatorship being the only thing keeping the world's most populous
country from sliding into chaos-is exacerbated greatly by the fact that
China now has virtually ALL of the world's industrial capacity. There is
no more industrial base in America, Europe, Japan. It's all been moved
to China. If China descends into chaos the rest of the world will go
with it. Blame your beloved capitalists for being too willing to cozy up
to a regime that could be toppled by a mass movement like Falun Gong and
that allows massive pollution and 10 cent a day wages.

The DMZ is the most fortified border on earth. The North Koreans have
gone to great lengths to make sure that nobody crosses. I'm not so sure
that hordes of refugees will be flooding across.

If the N.Korean side of the DMZ becomes demilitarized because of a regime
colapse you can be sure that waves of refugees will find a way across or
around
it. China would also see refugees.

Maybe to start with there would be a lot of North Koreans attempting to
cross, but it might die down after a while. There was no massive refugee
crisis when European Communism collapsed. Most of the East Germans who
fled into West Berlin right after the wall came down eventually went
back home.

I don't think you'd see a democracy spring up in NK. They've had 60
years of harsh Stalinist rule. You'd more likely see a situation like in
Afghanistan before the Taliban, with a lot of local party bosses
becoming warlords and establishing fiefdoms.

I see you are assuming that another brutal regime will take hold.
But that is not the scenario I am discussing. Besides another
regime would simply collapse as quikely as the old.

I didn't say that another centralized dictatorship would take hold, I
said that the country would descend into warlord rule and possibly civil
war. There is a difference.

China may send troops to
ensure "stability".

Indeed, and that would be viewed as a very provactive move in Seoul
and the West.

But I don't think that it would trigger a western invasion of NK.

But I don't think China will invade South Korea. The
US is a major trading partner for China; the CCP is NOT going to start a
nuclear war with the US in the name of Communism.

Has it occured to you that whomever overthrows Kim Jong Il may well be
"friendly" with the South?

You're assuming that a pro Western ruler replaces Kim. But I'm saying
that no ruler may replace Kim, that NK would break up instead, and that
would likely be much worse than a pro West regime in the North being
toppled by the Chinese.

If China thinks they can keep Kim from nuking Seoul, they may be sadly
mistaken. Unlike the massive bureaucracy that Communism has become in
China, in NK Kim is the end all and be all of government. He is totally
cut off from the rest of the world and lives in a dream world and is
much more likely to start a war with the US to "free" SK. If the US is
forced to invade NK because of Kim, the US will likely reach a quid pro
quo with the Chinese, keeping the Yalu River as the boundary between US
and Chinese troops. The mutual trade between China and the US means that
all out war between the two is not likely, even if China invades Taiwan.
The US establishment is not willing to have a nuclear war over Taiwan or
Korea.

You make many assumptions here about many countries. China is well known
for saber rattling against Taiwan. Taiwan businesses invest heavily in
China as
well. The scenario of any nuclear exchange in the region is very remote.
Regarding
N.Korea, even if Kim Jong Il does indeed have a "couple" of nuclear tipped
weapons, considering the latest intelligence and if his military is even
slightly
coherent", they would likely depose of him and refrain.

It's possible, but there would be enough loyalists to go ahead with the
Bomb drop and force a US invasion.

In any case, nuclear weapons aside, the Korean peninsular would become
the immediate focus of attention in the West and Beijing and Seoul would
have
many urgent and pressing meetings to attend.

This at least is true.


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You have it just about right running dogg. Good collection of points here.

running dogg wrote:

Li Changchun wrote:


"uncle arnie" wrote
How much western debt does China hold? I think it is quite high,
particularly for the USA. This would mean grave economic problems for
the west if China is "on the verge of collapse".

Hardly, in case of a China banking collapse financial arrangements can
always be made.
We are talking about paper after all. Not gold bullion. Perhaps WalMart
stock
will collapse but the $US always rallys in times of serious worldwide
calamity.
The Chinese $Yuan may become worthless.

The Chinese are currently financing the US government. They hold a BIG
chunk of US debt. The West has shifted all its manufacturing facilities
to China so in the event of a China collapse there might be serious
shortages of most goods. I think your hatred of the CCP has blinded you
to the serious implications of a potential China collapse.

As for N Korea, they are so
disconnected from the world, no-one would notice except for those of us
who
like the comedy of their SW broadcasts.

You are seriously mistaken. If the hermit kingdom collapses there will
be a human
tragedy on the peninsula. The economic costs to S.Korea will be worse
than
what Germany has had to endure since the fall of the Berlin wall.
Assuming
hoards of refugees begin to cross the DMZ. Which is very likely.

The DMZ is the most fortified border on earth. The North Koreans have
gone to great lengths to make sure that nobody crosses. I'm not so sure
that hordes of refugees will be flooding across.

Then there is the geo-political question. Will China invade N.Korea and
claim
its territory for repayment of decades of economic support? Or will China
allow
a free and Democratic state to prosper on its economically suffering
Northeast
border with the peninsula? If so it would be a first as well as a
strategic blow
to the Communist regime in Beijing.

I don't think you'd see a democracy spring up in NK. They've had 60
years of harsh Stalinist rule. You'd more likely see a situation like in
Afghanistan before the Taliban, with a lot of local party bosses
becoming warlords and establishing fiefdoms. China may send troops to
ensure "stability". But I don't think China will invade South Korea. The
US is a major trading partner for China; the CCP is NOT going to start a
nuclear war with the US in the name of Communism.

China historically prefers weak, non-threatening regimes as neighbors and
works
to maintain its supremacy over all its immediate neighbors.

Korean history extends into what is now Northeast China. There are
Korean
claims to these lands. China is well aware of these claims and has
summarily
rewrote its history books in an attempt to erase these claims.

The best scenario for the West would be if one collapses immediately
followed by the other. Neither regime would stand which is why China
will not pressure N.Korea in regard to nuclear negotiations. China can
very easily resolve the nuclear issue since all of N.Korea's energy comes
from China. Simply turn off a spigot and flick the big switch and Kim
Jong Il
is complete history.

If China thinks they can keep Kim from nuking Seoul, they may be sadly
mistaken. Unlike the massive bureaucracy that Communism has become in
China, in NK Kim is the end all and be all of government. He is totally
cut off from the rest of the world and lives in a dream world and is
much more likely to start a war with the US to "free" SK. If the US is
forced to invade NK because of Kim, the US will likely reach a quid pro
quo with the Chinese, keeping the Yalu River as the boundary between US
and Chinese troops. The mutual trade between China and the US means that
all out war between the two is not likely, even if China invades Taiwan.
The US establishment is not willing to have a nuclear war over Taiwan or
Korea.



Li Changchun wrote:

junk snipped

N.Korea

N. Korea launches harsh crackdown
(interesting read)



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0100-0200 Z
11735 13760 15180 kHz to N.America

1000-1100 Z
9335 9850 kHz to N.America

1300-1400 Z
9335 11710 kHz to N.America
4405 7570 12015 kHz to Europe

1500-1600 Z
9335 11710 kHz to N.America
4405 7570 12015 kHz to Europe

1800-1900 Z
4405 7570 12015 kHz to Europe

2100-2200 Z
4405 7570 12015 kHz to Europe
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On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 01:52:19 -0000, "* Dr. Artaud *"
wrote:

"Li Changchun" wrote in
:

Ah, I see that you do post. Sorry for the confusion.

I look at a specific number of posts, either by poster or subject, and I
have not remembered your posts.

Excellent article on Propaganda at Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Coincidentally, it has a North Korean Poster at the top of the page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda Can you tell us what it says?

Regretfully, my understanding of non-English languages is nil, I mean no
offense by my request, I am just curious if you can read it.

Regards

Dr. Artaud



Roughly as follows, and since it takes effort to translate the
manga histronics of the slogans I probably won't do more or
comment more about anything beyond this email unless radio
related.
Top slogan: Against oppression -- a mighty blow i.e., smash US's
oppression of us with a crushing assualt or strike
Bottom: Against castigation -- ruthless beating, i.e., merciless
punishment for the way we are derided and treated.

These are Chinese character derived so although simple syllables
are saturated with varied meanings that cannot be simply
translated into another language except Chinese or Japanese..

By the way, North Koreans live and breathe these slogans. They
fervently believe them and will gladly die for them, especially
the troops and average person. .