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Old March 12th 05, 12:29 PM
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Voyager probes in funding crisis

Nasa's twin Voyager probes may have to close down in October to save money,
the US space agency has said.

Launched in 1977, Voyagers One and Two are now more than 14 billion and 11
billion km from Earth, respectively.

They are on their final mission to locate the boundary between the Sun's
domain and interstellar space.

But the agency's Earth-Sun System division has had to cut its budget for
next year from $74m to $53m, meaning that some projects will be abandoned.

Although the Voyager probes are thought to have another 15 years of life
left in them, they are very expensive to run, costing Nasa about $4.2m a
year for operations and data analysis.

Other missions like Ulysses, which was launched in 1990 to explore the Sun's
polar regions, might also have to be abandoned after the end of the fiscal
year in October.

Although the decision is not yet final, some Nasa scientists are preparing
themselves for the worst. Voyager project scientist Edward Stone of the
California Institute of Technology told Nature magazine: "We are currently
developing a plan for shutdown."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...re/4338245.stm

Published: 2005/03/10 19:58:54 GMT

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Old March 12th 05, 04:56 PM
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"Max Power" wrote in message
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Voyager probes in funding crisis

Nasa's twin Voyager probes may have to close down in October to save

money,
the US space agency has said.

Launched in 1977, Voyagers One and Two are now more than 14 billion and

11
billion km from Earth, respectively.

They are on their final mission to locate the boundary between the Sun's
domain and interstellar space.

But the agency's Earth-Sun System division has had to cut its budget for
next year from $74m to $53m, meaning that some projects will be

abandoned.

Although the Voyager probes are thought to have another 15 years of life
left in them, they are very expensive to run, costing Nasa about $4.2m a
year for operations and data analysis.


4.2M a year to run two objects that are 14 billion km away from Earth
??????

I mean "Jeeze Louise"!

....and I thought Politicians were raping the Public Trust blind via
bullshi+ programs.

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Old March 13th 05, 02:52 AM
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"Max Power" wrote in message
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Voyager probes in funding crisis

Nasa's twin Voyager probes may have to close down in October to save

money,
the US space agency has said.

Launched in 1977, Voyagers One and Two are now more than 14 billion

and 11
billion km from Earth, respectively.

They are on their final mission to locate the boundary between the

Sun's
domain and interstellar space.

But the agency's Earth-Sun System division has had to cut its budget

for
next year from $74m to $53m, meaning that some projects will be

abandoned.

Although the Voyager probes are thought to have another 15 years of

life
left in them, they are very expensive to run, costing Nasa about

$4.2m a
year for operations and data analysis.

Other missions like Ulysses, which was launched in 1990 to explore

the Sun's
polar regions, might also have to be abandoned after the end of the

fiscal
year in October.

Although the decision is not yet final, some Nasa scientists are

preparing
themselves for the worst. Voyager project scientist Edward Stone of

the
California Institute of Technology told Nature magazine: "We are

currently
developing a plan for shutdown."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...re/4338245.stm


That's not 4.2 mil for the probes themselves, but to perform
monitoring and data analysis. The probes will continue
to transmit until their power is exhausted; it's a matter of
someone listening, examining the data, and storing it. That
is what would be shutdown. No one is going to fly out
to beyond the solar system and shut down the probes or
anything.

To be honest, I'm surprised that NASA was still devoting
money towards Voyager, since they had already succeeded
in their missions.

--Mike L.



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Old March 13th 05, 04:14 AM
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In article ,
"Michael Lawson" wrote:

"Max Power" wrote in message
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Voyager probes in funding crisis

Nasa's twin Voyager probes may have to close down in October to save

money,
the US space agency has said.

Launched in 1977, Voyagers One and Two are now more than 14 billion

and 11
billion km from Earth, respectively.

They are on their final mission to locate the boundary between the

Sun's
domain and interstellar space.

But the agency's Earth-Sun System division has had to cut its budget

for
next year from $74m to $53m, meaning that some projects will be

abandoned.

Although the Voyager probes are thought to have another 15 years of

life
left in them, they are very expensive to run, costing Nasa about

$4.2m a
year for operations and data analysis.

Other missions like Ulysses, which was launched in 1990 to explore

the Sun's
polar regions, might also have to be abandoned after the end of the

fiscal
year in October.

Although the decision is not yet final, some Nasa scientists are

preparing
themselves for the worst. Voyager project scientist Edward Stone of

the
California Institute of Technology told Nature magazine: "We are

currently
developing a plan for shutdown."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...re/4338245.stm


That's not 4.2 mil for the probes themselves, but to perform
monitoring and data analysis. The probes will continue
to transmit until their power is exhausted; it's a matter of
someone listening, examining the data, and storing it. That
is what would be shutdown. No one is going to fly out
to beyond the solar system and shut down the probes or
anything.

To be honest, I'm surprised that NASA was still devoting
money towards Voyager, since they had already succeeded
in their missions.


The science is never finished.

There is a new issue of the solar system passing into a more dense
galactic cloud of dust that can have serious implications for us on
earth. I want the funding to continue the examination of the solar
heliopause.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...&e=8&u=/space/
20050304/sc_space/hugespacecloudsmayhavecausedmassextinctions

The Mission Objective:
http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/interstellar.html

--
Telamon
Ventura, California
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Old March 14th 05, 03:41 AM
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"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Michael Lawson" wrote:

"Max Power" wrote in message
...
Voyager probes in funding crisis

Nasa's twin Voyager probes may have to close down in October to

save
money,
the US space agency has said.

Launched in 1977, Voyagers One and Two are now more than 14

billion
and 11
billion km from Earth, respectively.

They are on their final mission to locate the boundary between

the
Sun's
domain and interstellar space.

But the agency's Earth-Sun System division has had to cut its

budget
for
next year from $74m to $53m, meaning that some projects will be

abandoned.

Although the Voyager probes are thought to have another 15 years

of
life
left in them, they are very expensive to run, costing Nasa about

$4.2m a
year for operations and data analysis.

Other missions like Ulysses, which was launched in 1990 to

explore
the Sun's
polar regions, might also have to be abandoned after the end of

the
fiscal
year in October.

Although the decision is not yet final, some Nasa scientists are

preparing
themselves for the worst. Voyager project scientist Edward Stone

of
the
California Institute of Technology told Nature magazine: "We are

currently
developing a plan for shutdown."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...re/4338245.stm


That's not 4.2 mil for the probes themselves, but to perform
monitoring and data analysis. The probes will continue
to transmit until their power is exhausted; it's a matter of
someone listening, examining the data, and storing it. That
is what would be shutdown. No one is going to fly out
to beyond the solar system and shut down the probes or
anything.

To be honest, I'm surprised that NASA was still devoting
money towards Voyager, since they had already succeeded
in their missions.


The science is never finished.

There is a new issue of the solar system passing into a more dense
galactic cloud of dust that can have serious implications for us on
earth. I want the funding to continue the examination of the solar
heliopause.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...=96&e=8&u=/spa
ce/
20050304/sc_space/hugespacecloudsmayhavecausedmassextinctions

The Mission Objective:
http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/interstellar.html


It might not be finished, but as with most funded projects,
there becomes a point of diminishing returns. If this project
were thrown in with all the other DoD and DoE funding
requests, I'd doubt it would have gotten a grant. The
response would have been something like: "Didn't you
finish this already?? We have other projects to fund."

--Mike L.





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.....new issue of the solar system passing through a more dense galactic
cloud,,,,,, It is not new news at all.I have said it in this news group
before that I read in a magazine many years ago that our solar system
passes through the "fingers" of the Van Oort Constelation and perhaps
that is the reason or part of the reason our Earth has Ice ages and then
warms back up when Earth passes on through the "fingers" of the Van Oort
Constelation.
cuhulin

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It took so many years to get to where they are. In another 15 years, they
would be passing through parts of the solar system fringes we will probably
never have access to for decades, if ever. Would be a pity to simply cut
them off and loose our link so far out into space... perhaps they can
consider an automated system to receive and log the data , and to only
trigger human intervention if a pre-determined change in data stream is
detected...

"Michael Lawson" wrote in message
news

"Max Power" wrote in message
...
Voyager probes in funding crisis

Nasa's twin Voyager probes may have to close down in October to save

money,
the US space agency has said.

Launched in 1977, Voyagers One and Two are now more than 14 billion

and 11
billion km from Earth, respectively.

They are on their final mission to locate the boundary between the

Sun's
domain and interstellar space.

But the agency's Earth-Sun System division has had to cut its budget

for
next year from $74m to $53m, meaning that some projects will be

abandoned.

Although the Voyager probes are thought to have another 15 years of

life
left in them, they are very expensive to run, costing Nasa about

$4.2m a
year for operations and data analysis.

Other missions like Ulysses, which was launched in 1990 to explore

the Sun's
polar regions, might also have to be abandoned after the end of the

fiscal
year in October.

Although the decision is not yet final, some Nasa scientists are

preparing
themselves for the worst. Voyager project scientist Edward Stone of

the
California Institute of Technology told Nature magazine: "We are

currently
developing a plan for shutdown."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...re/4338245.stm


That's not 4.2 mil for the probes themselves, but to perform
monitoring and data analysis. The probes will continue
to transmit until their power is exhausted; it's a matter of
someone listening, examining the data, and storing it. That
is what would be shutdown. No one is going to fly out
to beyond the solar system and shut down the probes or
anything.

To be honest, I'm surprised that NASA was still devoting
money towards Voyager, since they had already succeeded
in their missions.

--Mike L.





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Might as well have known a canaDUHian (canaDUH outlawed the BIBLE) would
say something like that.That is how canaDUH thinks,that is why canaDUH
is worse than a third world country.
cuhulin

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