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Invader3K March 13th 05 03:49 AM

Continuing this topic...I believe someone else brought up on this board
a while ago, that one of the most requested items for victims of the
tsunami in southern Asia were radios. Gee, with the prevalence of
internet radio and satellites, one wouldn't think of those
anymore...also, during the September 11th attacks, when cell phone
towers were down in New York, ham radios still worked.

Radio (and shortwave) aren't going anywhere.


running dogg March 13th 05 03:55 AM

Invader3K wrote:

Continuing this topic...I believe someone else brought up on this board
a while ago, that one of the most requested items for victims of the
tsunami in southern Asia were radios. Gee, with the prevalence of
internet radio and satellites, one wouldn't think of those
anymore...also, during the September 11th attacks, when cell phone
towers were down in New York, ham radios still worked.

Radio (and shortwave) aren't going anywhere.


Shortwave radio is the only truly global information medium that can't
be censored, controlled by a handful of megaentities, or blocked.
Shortwave signals can't be grabbed and burned like a newspaper or a
computer disc. Shortwave isn't dependent on some omniscient controller
to decide what gets through the filter-SW has no filter.


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Telamon March 13th 05 04:29 AM

In article , running dogg wrote:

Invader3K wrote:

Continuing this topic...I believe someone else brought up on this board
a while ago, that one of the most requested items for victims of the
tsunami in southern Asia were radios. Gee, with the prevalence of
internet radio and satellites, one wouldn't think of those
anymore...also, during the September 11th attacks, when cell phone
towers were down in New York, ham radios still worked.

Radio (and shortwave) aren't going anywhere.


Shortwave radio is the only truly global information medium that can't
be censored, controlled by a handful of megaentities, or blocked.
Shortwave signals can't be grabbed and burned like a newspaper or a
computer disc. Shortwave isn't dependent on some omniscient controller
to decide what gets through the filter-SW has no filter.


Yes, but they are trying to do this with DRM.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon March 13th 05 04:33 AM

In article , running dogg wrote:

wrote:

The question isn't "Should I buy a shortwave radio?"

The question is "Should I get rid of my television?"


Old burnt out TVs are readily available in the back alleys of
Sacramento's Midtown District. I thought of taking one home, taking
pictures of me smashing it with a sledgehammer, then making a flyer with
the pic and the tagline KILL YOUR TV and posting them everywhere.

I should note that one rarely finds radios of any kind, even cheap
boomboxes, in the alleys. Just TVs-when the CRT dies they're useless. I
once found an old two tube portable record player, though, covered in
tweed, but the motor was bad.

I watch my TV for about an hour a day-a half hour for local news and a
half hour for national news. If I'm up late I may watch the 10pm news.


You don't want to go this. The CRT is under vacuum and if shattered it
will implode followed by an explosion of glass. Cut and break the neck
first, then you can smash the tube.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David March 13th 05 02:14 PM

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:33:09 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article , running dogg wrote:

wrote:

The question isn't "Should I buy a shortwave radio?"

The question is "Should I get rid of my television?"


Old burnt out TVs are readily available in the back alleys of
Sacramento's Midtown District. I thought of taking one home, taking
pictures of me smashing it with a sledgehammer, then making a flyer with
the pic and the tagline KILL YOUR TV and posting them everywhere.

I should note that one rarely finds radios of any kind, even cheap
boomboxes, in the alleys. Just TVs-when the CRT dies they're useless. I
once found an old two tube portable record player, though, covered in
tweed, but the motor was bad.

I watch my TV for about an hour a day-a half hour for local news and a
half hour for national news. If I'm up late I may watch the 10pm news.


You don't want to go this. The CRT is under vacuum and if shattered it
will implode followed by an explosion of glass. Cut and break the neck
first, then you can smash the tube.

And vaporized lead.


Li Changchun March 13th 05 03:39 PM


"running dogg" wrote

Shortwave radio is the only truly global information medium that can't
be censored, controlled by a handful of megaentities...


I would consider China, N.Korea, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Vietnam, Pakistan,
and many others to very heavilly censored and controlled.

Shortwave signals can't be grabbed and burned like a newspaper or a
computer disc. Shortwave isn't dependent on some omniscient controller
to decide what gets through the filter-SW has no filter.


I guess it is all between the ears of the beholder.



running dogg March 13th 05 06:16 PM

Li Changchun wrote:


"running dogg" wrote

Shortwave radio is the only truly global information medium that can't
be censored, controlled by a handful of megaentities...


I would consider China, N.Korea, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Vietnam, Pakistan,
and many others to very heavilly censored and controlled.


I'm talking about the medium of shortwave radio itself, not the
individual stations. Look at how a medium like say XM Satellite Radio or
Directv is set up and controlled vs how shortwave radio as a medium is
uncontrolled. With XM or Directv the entity controls all access and
controls what is broadcast. With shortwave, I can choose to listen to
the BBC or to Voice of Korea. In China, the Chinese can choose to listen
to CNR or to Radio Free Asia (albeit secretly). See what I mean?


----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----

David March 13th 05 10:00 PM

XM plays the BBC World Service without any interruption or censorship.

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:16:03 -0800, running dogg wrote:

Li Changchun wrote:


"running dogg" wrote

Shortwave radio is the only truly global information medium that can't
be censored, controlled by a handful of megaentities...


I would consider China, N.Korea, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Vietnam, Pakistan,
and many others to very heavilly censored and controlled.


I'm talking about the medium of shortwave radio itself, not the
individual stations. Look at how a medium like say XM Satellite Radio or
Directv is set up and controlled vs how shortwave radio as a medium is
uncontrolled. With XM or Directv the entity controls all access and
controls what is broadcast. With shortwave, I can choose to listen to
the BBC or to Voice of Korea. In China, the Chinese can choose to listen
to CNR or to Radio Free Asia (albeit secretly). See what I mean?


----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----




David March 13th 05 10:02 PM

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:16:03 -0800, running dogg wrote:

Li Changchun wrote:


"running dogg" wrote

Shortwave radio is the only truly global information medium that can't
be censored, controlled by a handful of megaentities...


I would consider China, N.Korea, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Vietnam, Pakistan,
and many others to very heavilly censored and controlled.


I'm talking about the medium of shortwave radio itself, not the
individual stations. Look at how a medium like say XM Satellite Radio or
Directv is set up and controlled vs how shortwave radio as a medium is
uncontrolled. With XM or Directv the entity controls all access and
controls what is broadcast. With shortwave, I can choose to listen to
the BBC or to Voice of Korea. In China, the Chinese can choose to listen
to CNR or to Radio Free Asia (albeit secretly). See what I mean?


----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----


You are a prime target for disinformation. Always assume you are
being lied to, especially by those whom you are injclined to trust the
most.

Paranoia is awareness.


dxAce March 13th 05 10:04 PM



David wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:16:03 -0800, running dogg wrote:

Li Changchun wrote:


"running dogg" wrote

Shortwave radio is the only truly global information medium that can't
be censored, controlled by a handful of megaentities...

I would consider China, N.Korea, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Vietnam, Pakistan,
and many others to very heavilly censored and controlled.


I'm talking about the medium of shortwave radio itself, not the
individual stations. Look at how a medium like say XM Satellite Radio or
Directv is set up and controlled vs how shortwave radio as a medium is
uncontrolled. With XM or Directv the entity controls all access and
controls what is broadcast. With shortwave, I can choose to listen to
the BBC or to Voice of Korea. In China, the Chinese can choose to listen
to CNR or to Radio Free Asia (albeit secretly). See what I mean?


----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----


You are a prime target for disinformation. Always assume you are
being lied to, especially by those whom you are injclined to trust the
most.

Paranoia is awareness.


And you sure are one paranoid 'tard boy!

LMAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA




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