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[email protected] March 13th 05 11:20 PM

If you think XM is free, you're mistaken. XM is a subscription service.


running dogg March 14th 05 12:35 AM

David wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:16:03 -0800, running dogg wrote:

Li Changchun wrote:


"running dogg" wrote

Shortwave radio is the only truly global information medium that can't
be censored, controlled by a handful of megaentities...

I would consider China, N.Korea, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Vietnam, Pakistan,
and many others to very heavilly censored and controlled.


I'm talking about the medium of shortwave radio itself, not the
individual stations. Look at how a medium like say XM Satellite Radio or
Directv is set up and controlled vs how shortwave radio as a medium is
uncontrolled. With XM or Directv the entity controls all access and
controls what is broadcast. With shortwave, I can choose to listen to
the BBC or to Voice of Korea. In China, the Chinese can choose to listen
to CNR or to Radio Free Asia (albeit secretly). See what I mean?


----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----


You are a prime target for disinformation. Always assume you are
being lied to, especially by those whom you are injclined to trust the
most.

Paranoia is awareness.


Let me get this straight. You rely on a fee for service media service
(XM satellite radio) for news, uncritically post far left wing
editorials off the internet as fact, and then call ME disinformed when I
point out that shortwave, as a free medium that relies on atmospheric
characteristics that cannot be controlled, is far superior to a medium
controlled by a huge corporation that makes you pay a monthly
subscription fee for access? Your thought processes don't make sense.


----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----

David March 14th 05 02:02 AM

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:35:17 -0800, running dogg wrote:

David wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:16:03 -0800, running dogg wrote:

Li Changchun wrote:


"running dogg" wrote

Shortwave radio is the only truly global information medium that can't
be censored, controlled by a handful of megaentities...

I would consider China, N.Korea, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Vietnam, Pakistan,
and many others to very heavilly censored and controlled.

I'm talking about the medium of shortwave radio itself, not the
individual stations. Look at how a medium like say XM Satellite Radio or
Directv is set up and controlled vs how shortwave radio as a medium is
uncontrolled. With XM or Directv the entity controls all access and
controls what is broadcast. With shortwave, I can choose to listen to
the BBC or to Voice of Korea. In China, the Chinese can choose to listen
to CNR or to Radio Free Asia (albeit secretly). See what I mean?


----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----


You are a prime target for disinformation. Always assume you are
being lied to, especially by those whom you are injclined to trust the
most.

Paranoia is awareness.


Let me get this straight. You rely on a fee for service media service
(XM satellite radio) for news, uncritically post far left wing
editorials off the internet as fact, and then call ME disinformed when I
point out that shortwave, as a free medium that relies on atmospheric
characteristics that cannot be controlled, is far superior to a medium
controlled by a huge corporation that makes you pay a monthly
subscription fee for access? Your thought processes don't make sense.


----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----

I pay a fee to them so I can have the same content at will that you
get sporadically.


[email protected] March 14th 05 02:37 PM


David wrote:
You are obviously not in W. NAm. My radios and antennas are just
fine.


Excellent. I hope you'll mention that when you cancel your subscription
to XM. Please tell us how it goes!

Steve


Tr March 14th 05 03:27 PM

Sat, 12 Mar 2005 20:19:58 GMT, David kirjutas:

DRM =3DQRM

Right, future of sofwave radio is Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM)! There
are also first receivers availabe and acording to DRM Consortium
(http://www.drm.org/) most major broadcasters are already or will be
soon testing DRM broadcasts.

DRM is the world's only non-proprietary, universally standardized on-air
system for short-wave, medium-wave/AM and long-wave.

Benefits of Digital AM for Listeners:
- FM-like sound quality with the AM reach ;=20
- Improved reception quality;
- Flexible use of radio, whenever and wherever you want it;=20
- No change to existing listening habits:
- same frequencies,=20
- same listening conditions (fixed, portable and mobile radio),
- same listening environment (indoors, in cities, in dense forests..);=20
- Low cost receiver, low energy consumption;=20
- Easy tuning: with selection by frequency, station name or programme
type;=20
- More diverse programme content, using the full capabilities of new
digital features;=20
- Wide receiver range with more and better features;
- Radios that will give you programmes with associated text information,
station name, record title, singer=92s name...

Some receivers available:

Mayah Communications The DRM Receiver 2010:
http://www.mayah.com/index.php?id=3D8

Coding Techonlogies USB receiver for DRM:
http://www.codingtechnologies.com/products/digtrav.htm

SISTEL di Ing. Re Claudio
http://www.comsistel.com/drm.htm

Winradio
http://www.winradio.com/home/g303i.htm

[email protected] March 14th 05 03:35 PM

Right, future of sofwave radio is Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM)!

Is this serious or a joke of some kind? I can't tell.


dxAce March 14th 05 03:53 PM



Tr wrote:

Sat, 12 Mar 2005 20:19:58 GMT, David kirjutas:

DRM =QRM

Right, future of sofwave radio is Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM)! There
are also first receivers availabe and acording to DRM Consortium
(http://www.drm.org/) most major broadcasters are already or will be
soon testing DRM broadcasts.

DRM is the world's only non-proprietary, universally standardized on-air
system for short-wave, medium-wave/AM and long-wave.

Benefits of Digital AM for Listeners:
- FM-like sound quality with the AM reach ;
- Improved reception quality;
- Flexible use of radio, whenever and wherever you want it;
- No change to existing listening habits:
- same frequencies,
- same listening conditions (fixed, portable and mobile radio),
- same listening environment (indoors, in cities, in dense forests..);
- Low cost receiver, low energy consumption;
- Easy tuning: with selection by frequency, station name or programme
type;
- More diverse programme content, using the full capabilities of new
digital features;
- Wide receiver range with more and better features;
- Radios that will give you programmes with associated text information,
station name, record title, singer’s name...

Some receivers available:

Mayah Communications The DRM Receiver 2010:
http://www.mayah.com/index.php?id=8

Coding Techonlogies USB receiver for DRM:
http://www.codingtechnologies.com/products/digtrav.htm

SISTEL di Ing. Re Claudio
http://www.comsistel.com/drm.htm

Winradio
http://www.winradio.com/home/g303i.htm


DRM=QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA




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