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The very fact that you performed this test demonstrates that you were
at least able to entertain the possibility that the S800 had a weakness, and that, sir, is simply inexcusable. I realize that this is usenet and freedom of thought and speech is rampant, but asking people to suppose that the S800 might not be the best receiver in this (or any) world is going too far. There is no receiver in the world that can even begin to compete against the S800. There *could not be* another receiver that could compete against the S800. If you want to talk about high grade, military equipment....bring it on. The S800 is better than all of that garbage! I hope I never have to point any of this out again!!!!! Steve |
Oh, and by the way, I hope that that "That's why there was an R8B"
crack wasn't intended to suggest that the R8B is comparable in overall performance to the S800. The S800 is to the R8B what a WJ100 is to a Grundig Mini World 100 PE. Steve |
wrote in message ups.com... Oh, and by the way, I hope that that "That's why there was an R8B" crack wasn't intended to suggest that the R8B is comparable in overall performance to the S800. The S800 is to the R8B what a WJ100 is to a Grundig Mini World 100 PE. And I thought the Mini World 100 PE was the be-all and end-all of SW receivers. --Mike L. |
Well, I say the S800 is far better than the R8B. It's better than any
receiver and therefore immune to all criticism. Steve |
I'm babbling about the greatest receiver in the world: the S800!
Steve |
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:36:06 -0500, "Michael Lawson"
wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Oh, and by the way, I hope that that "That's why there was an R8B" crack wasn't intended to suggest that the R8B is comparable in overall performance to the S800. The S800 is to the R8B what a WJ100 is to a Grundig Mini World 100 PE. And I thought the Mini World 100 PE was the be-all and end-all of SW receivers. --Mike L. Well it's pretty darn obvious to me that none of you so-called "avid dx hounds" know little to nothing about radios. If you did you would realize that the "Best of the best of the best" is a Coby am portable with an MFJ shortwave converter hooked up to a Tiny-Tenna! And you guys call yourselves shortwave enthusiasts............... Howard 1 station logged 0 confirmed |
Well it's pretty darn obvious to me that none of you so-called "avid
dx hounds" know little to nothing about radios. If you did you would realize that the "Best of the best of the best" is a Coby am portable with an MFJ shortwave converter hooked up to a Tiny-Tenna! And you guys call yourselves shortwave enthusiasts............... An S800 will beat a Coby any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Steve |
Jim wrote: On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:46:08 -0500, dxAce wrote: Damn, I just gotta go on out and buy 3 or 4 of them S800's Maybe you should. Perhaps then you would have a informed opinion of it. Uh-huh.... I'm just not 'informed'. LMAO at the 'tard yet again. By the way, good morning. dxAce Michigan USA |
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"Jim" wrote in message ... On 17 Mar 2005 19:20:59 -0800, wrote: WTF are you babbling about? Who ever claimed that the S800 was the "best receiver" and "has no weaknesses"? I simply performed his "good test". The S800 won. Note - AGAIN - that I have an original R8 with the double sideband only sync. The R8B would have performed better, because it's sync is identical to the S800's - both were designed by Drake you know! The R8 is simply outdated, having been designed nearly 15 years ago. The S800 benefits from being designed about 5 years ago. That's all. No big deal - technology marches on and all that. The S800 is just the best receiver *I* own. I have loads of radios here, the S800 is just best that I personally have. I never claimed it was the "best in the world". I stand by my statement that I would take an S800 over an R8 - NOT an R8B! OK? And.... wrote in message oups.com... Well, I say the S800 is far better than the R8B. It's better than any receiver and therefore immune to all criticism. I own a Sat-800, Grundig 400PE and DX-398 and my best friend has my DX-394B (he's "borrowing" it and loves it) and another friend now owns my Grundig 100PE. The Sat-800 here in Canada goes for $600 CDN (I got mine on sale for $550 over 3 years ago) and the R8B goes for about $2200 (about 3.7x - 4x more than the Sat-800, depending on how you calculate it). I certainly believe the R8B to be better than my Sat-800, but not 3.7 to 4 times better..... Take Care Abb N Windsor, Ontario, Canada |
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"AbbN" wrote: Hi, "Jim" wrote in message ... On 17 Mar 2005 19:20:59 -0800, wrote: WTF are you babbling about? Who ever claimed that the S800 was the "best receiver" and "has no weaknesses"? I simply performed his "good test". The S800 won. Note - AGAIN - that I have an original R8 with the double sideband only sync. The R8B would have performed better, because it's sync is identical to the S800's - both were designed by Drake you know! The R8 is simply outdated, having been designed nearly 15 years ago. The S800 benefits from being designed about 5 years ago. That's all. No big deal - technology marches on and all that. The S800 is just the best receiver *I* own. I have loads of radios here, the S800 is just best that I personally have. I never claimed it was the "best in the world". I stand by my statement that I would take an S800 over an R8 - NOT an R8B! OK? And.... wrote in message oups.com... Well, I say the S800 is far better than the R8B. It's better than any receiver and therefore immune to all criticism. I own a Sat-800, Grundig 400PE and DX-398 and my best friend has my DX-394B (he's "borrowing" it and loves it) and another friend now owns my Grundig 100PE. The Sat-800 here in Canada goes for $600 CDN (I got mine on sale for $550 over 3 years ago) and the R8B goes for about $2200 (about 3.7x - 4x more than the Sat-800, depending on how you calculate it). I certainly believe the R8B to be better than my Sat-800, but not 3.7 to 4 times better..... You are right. It's 10X better. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
I certainly believe the R8B to be better than my Sat-800, but not 3.7
to 4 times better..... The van will pick you up tomorrow morning. When the driver and his attendants enter your home, simply follow their instructions. They're there to help you. They will remove you to the safety of a Satellit 800 re-education camp. You're going to be okay now... Steve |
The thing I like about the S800 is that, if you really know how to use
it, you can receive signals before they're even broadcast. |
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It's superior in that it fits in my pocket.
I've never used an AOR 7030, unfortunately. |
Hi,
Actually I was quite surprised by the performance of my 100PE. I live in a high rise near downtown here in Windsor and the reception is no great hell. A few years ago I took the 100PE to the riverfront (a 15 minute walk from where I live) and was stunned by what it picked vs. what it picked up in our apartment or even on our balcony. As I'm sure you can guess, the performance of my 400PE and DX-398 on the riverfront vs. them in my apartment or balcony produce similar night-and-day differences. I've yet to take my Sat-800 down there and try it. As for my Sat-800, I'm extremely happy with it. I managed to get a "good" one. Needless to say, it was and still is an extremely mocked/put-down receiver by this group but that has never bothered me. My DX-394B which I was also extremely happy with was also highly mocked/put-down as well but was also never bothered by it. By the way, when I had my DX-394B, I had an external DSP unit (Radio Shack DSP-40) and a good external speaker hooked up to it. When I got my Sat-800, I did try it with these but found I really didn't need them. My "dream receiver" is actually an NRD-545 DSP but it's pretty pricey here in Canada. We all have our own receiver likes, dislikes and $$ budgets and have always respected than in others. When it comes to SWLing and if you're happy with what you have and/or it suites your wants and/or desires, who cares what others may think - I don't and never have. The DX-394B that I mentioned in my 1st post more than suites my best friend's SWL needs and desires. The same goes for my other best friend that has the 100PE - I actually offered him my DX-398 once but prefers the 100PE (he's also my chiropractor and doesn't charge me for any treatments....which is why I offered him the DX-398 last year and I won't lie, I'm glad he turned the 398 down g) What that saying....ah yes, I remember now, "to each his/her own"....:) Take Care Abb N "Michael Lawson" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... Oh, and by the way, I hope that that "That's why there was an R8B" crack wasn't intended to suggest that the R8B is comparable in overall performance to the S800. The S800 is to the R8B what a WJ100 is to a Grundig Mini World 100 PE. And I thought the Mini World 100 PE was the be-all and end-all of SW receivers. --Mike L. |
"Jim" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:27:17 -0500, "Michael Lawson" wrote: Here would be a good test: on 5975, there's our old buddy, the BBC. On 5980, there's RTV Marocaine (Morocco). On the occasional days when the BBC isn't running on 5975, I can listen to Moroccan music on 5980. However, the BBC simply overwhelms my reception of Marocaine on most days on my S800. Can an R8/R8A/R8B pull Marocaine out? That, I don't know, but the tools to do it are there on the R8's, whereas on the S800, you're rather limited to the sync and the 6/4/2.3 bandwidths. The outstanding sync on the S800 eliminates the need for all those "tools" on the R8. Got a het? Gone with the sync. Splatter from a nearby blowtorch? Gone with the sync. The 6/4/2.3 bandwidths are identical to the R8's, BTW. The R8 also has 1.8 and .5, which are pretty much useless except for code, and I don't listen to that. BTW, the S800 passes your above BBC/Morocco test, in 5 seconds by pressing a *single button*! The R8 can do it also, but only after 5 minutes of manual knob twiddling. I know which method *I* prefer. YMMV. Just to make sure that I wasn't hearing things, I tried it myself just now. I can get Marocaine in for about a half a minute before the BBC bleeds in and starts to overwhelm the sync. There are patches of time when it is audible over the junk, but then the BBC simply overwhelms it again. Considering that the BBC is at s9+20, and Marocaine is somewhere between S5-S7 (I notice the s-meter bumping up to S9, but it's in time with the BBC bleedover, not Marocaine itself), it's not a big surprise. Can I read it well enough to ID it?? Probably so if I constantly tinker with the sync, fiddle with trying ECSS and the attenuator, and lower the filter to 2.3. If I want to listen to it for more than a minute or so, however, I'd want a bit more than what the sync alone can give me. Passband offset would be nice, as would a good notch and much better front end selectivity. Is my Sat 800 defective?? No. It's always done this (it was one of the first Sat 800's out there), and I've just acknowledged that that's part of the difference between a $500 radio and a kilobuck radio. Last fall, I sent my Sat 800 to Drake for a general tuneup, and with the exception of a couple of caps replaced, it was fine. Got the Sat 800 back, and it still does the same thing. That tells me that what I'm asking it to do is something that it simply has a hard time doing. --Mike L. |
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