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Old April 3rd 05, 04:39 AM
 
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The R-1000 should do well on either of the antennas you mentioned. My
R-1000 showed some slight overloading on a 130' wire but did well on a
60' coax/matching xfmr fed wire. I replaced the 12 kHz filter with a 6
khz one (Murata CFW455H) and the audio quality was not degraded
significantly but the selectivity sure was better. Removing the top pc
board is a hassle the first time, however!

Frank
K3YAZ


wrote:
Recently I picked up an R-1000 in nice condition, and did a search in
this newsgroup, the feeling seems to be that this is basically a

decent
receiver with good audio but prone to overloading with a large

antenna.


I have a couple of commercial shortwave antennas which I could use

when
I get time to put them up, both being about 50' in length, though one
can be shortened if need be. I like to listen to the major
broadcasters but also enjoy touring the 60 meter band for Africans as
well. Can anyone suggest an antenna length that would be best for

this
receiver? Would the attenuator lose too much signal, or make it an
ideal situation? Testing with a short wire wiped out all but the
strongest signals, and even they weren't enjoyable then.

Also, the 12 kHz filter in this radio sounds great on clear

mediumwave
stations, are there any shortwave stations that have clear signals

and
good audio which I can use this wide filter with (I've been away from
the hobby for a while)? Is the excellent audio reputation of the
R-1000 from the stock wide filter alone, or is the entire audio

circuit
what makes it so good? If its just the stock filter, wouldn't any
receiver benefit greatly from something wider than the standard 6 kHz
filter in the wide slot?


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Old April 3rd 05, 01:26 PM
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Also, the 12 kHz filter in this radio sounds great on clear
mediumwave
stations, are there any shortwave stations that have clear signals and
good audio which I can use this wide filter with (I've been away from
the hobby for a while)? Is the excellent audio reputation of the
R-1000 from the stock wide filter alone, or is the entire audio circuit

what makes it so good? If its just the stock filter, wouldn't any
receiver benefit greatly from something wider than the standard 6 kHz
filter in the wide slot?

While you get great audio with the 12 khz filter, I found it to be on
the wide side for my taste, I replaced it with a Kiwa wide filter ( 6
khz ) with little loss on the audio quality but an improvement on
selectivity.

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Old April 3rd 05, 07:35 PM
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wrote:
Recently I picked up an R-1000 in nice condition, and did a search in
this newsgroup, the feeling seems to be that this is basically a decent
receiver with good audio but prone to overloading with a large antenna.

I have a couple of commercial shortwave antennas which I could use when
I get time to put them up, both being about 50' in length, though one
can be shortened if need be. I like to listen to the major
broadcasters but also enjoy touring the 60 meter band for Africans as
well. Can anyone suggest an antenna length that would be best for this
receiver?


There's a ton of diodes in the front end (it uses diode switched
bandpass filters), so if you put too much antenna on it, it's
prone to amazing amounts of intermod from nearby medium wave stations.
I found that 200 feet was too much, as I'm 5 miles from Seattle's
medium wave farm on Vashon Island. About 60 feet seems ok.

Also, you can try running it into the 50 ohm coax plug instead of the
500 ohm push terminal, (and remember to flip the back panel switch ;-) )
, without the matching transformer it's less prone to overload.

I found that, when I bought a FR-200 portable to play with, that
the R-1000 will reradiate this intermod when it's turned off and the
diodes in the front end are unpowered.

Would the attenuator lose too much signal, or make it an
ideal situation? Testing with a short wire wiped out all but the
strongest signals, and even they weren't enjoyable then.


The 20 dB step on the attenuator makes it useless. There's a mod
on the mods.dk site for changing a bunch of resistors to make it 10
dB per step.

Also, the 12 kHz filter in this radio sounds great on clear mediumwave
stations, are there any shortwave stations that have clear signals and
good audio which I can use this wide filter with (I've been away from


No, not really. That's why there's the plug/cable setup where you
can select for two different selections of wide and narrow for the
front buttons. Plugging the three wire harness (at the mddle of the
top board) into one socket sets it to 2.1/SSB/6narrow/12wide, the other
2.1ssb/2.1narrow/6wide. (I cheat. I came up with a circuit mod using a
CMOS analog switch IC that let's me get all three bandwidths for any
mode by pushing in 1,2 or 3 buttons at the same time.)

There is also an audio bandwidth spoiler circuit that narrows the
bandwidth when the AM-nar button is pressed (or widens it when the
AM-Wide is in) regardless of the other configuration. This, I think,
could be defeated by popping the connector terminal on one of the top
board plugs, but I've never bothered to try that. (Likewise, there's
an RF gain spoiler circuit that lowers the sensitivity below 2 MHz.)

Both the operation and repair manuals are on the mods.dk web site.

the hobby for a while)? Is the excellent audio reputation of the
R-1000 from the stock wide filter alone, or is the entire audio circuit
what makes it so good? If its just the stock filter, wouldn't any
receiver benefit greatly from something wider than the standard 6 kHz
filter in the wide slot?


I'd go with the filter bandwidth. I'm not impressed with the built in
amp and speaker. Not in the same league as an R-5000. You do get pretty
good stuff out of the front panel "record" jack, but it's not the
ultimate AM receiver.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident


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The 6khz may sound muddy if you are used to the 12, but remember that
you cane tune off center freq. 2 or 3 khz or more to get treble response
again. This even works pretty well with filters as narrow (?) as 3 or 4
khz.

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Thanks to everyone for your help! I'll go with my original antennas
and look into the filter and audio mods.



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Starman - most of my filters are leftovers from various projects and
scrapped junker receivers and the like. I occasionally type "Murata"
into the search box on Ebay and you would be surprised what pops up at
times. I got a package of 6 Murata CFW455I filters for about $25 a few
years ago. I've since either used most up in upgrades for various
people or given them away. I still have a number of 455H and G types I
think. You may want to enter "Barend Hendricksen" into a Google
search. I think this guy sells all types of filters out of the UK.

Frank
K3YAZ
Tucson

starman wrote:
Frank,

Where are you getting Murata filters these days?

TIA

wrote:

The R-1000 should do well on either of the antennas you mentioned.

My
R-1000 showed some slight overloading on a 130' wire but did well

on a
60' coax/matching xfmr fed wire. I replaced the 12 kHz filter with

a 6
khz one (Murata CFW455H) and the audio quality was not degraded
significantly but the selectivity sure was better. Removing the top

pc
board is a hassle the first time, however!

Frank


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Old April 5th 05, 05:34 AM
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Thanks Frank.

wrote:

Starman - most of my filters are leftovers from various projects and
scrapped junker receivers and the like. I occasionally type "Murata"
into the search box on Ebay and you would be surprised what pops up at
times. I got a package of 6 Murata CFW455I filters for about $25 a few
years ago. I've since either used most up in upgrades for various
people or given them away. I still have a number of 455H and G types I
think. You may want to enter "Barend Hendricksen" into a Google
search. I think this guy sells all types of filters out of the UK.

Frank
K3YAZ
Tucson

starman wrote:
Frank,

Where are you getting Murata filters these days?

TIA

wrote:

The R-1000 should do well on either of the antennas you mentioned.

My
R-1000 showed some slight overloading on a 130' wire but did well

on a
60' coax/matching xfmr fed wire. I replaced the 12 kHz filter with

a 6
khz one (Murata CFW455H) and the audio quality was not degraded
significantly but the selectivity sure was better. Removing the top

pc
board is a hassle the first time, however!

Frank


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You should be able to change the front end switching diodes to PIN diodes. A
1N5767 should do the trick. Make sure that they are biased up to at least
15mA.

Pete

"Mark Zenier" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
wrote:
Recently I picked up an R-1000 in nice condition, and did a search in
this newsgroup, the feeling seems to be that this is basically a decent
receiver with good audio but prone to overloading with a large antenna.

I have a couple of commercial shortwave antennas which I could use when
I get time to put them up, both being about 50' in length, though one
can be shortened if need be. I like to listen to the major
broadcasters but also enjoy touring the 60 meter band for Africans as
well. Can anyone suggest an antenna length that would be best for this
receiver?


There's a ton of diodes in the front end (it uses diode switched
bandpass filters), so if you put too much antenna on it, it's
prone to amazing amounts of intermod from nearby medium wave stations.
I found that 200 feet was too much, as I'm 5 miles from Seattle's
medium wave farm on Vashon Island. About 60 feet seems ok.

Also, you can try running it into the 50 ohm coax plug instead of the
500 ohm push terminal, (and remember to flip the back panel switch ;-) )
, without the matching transformer it's less prone to overload.

I found that, when I bought a FR-200 portable to play with, that
the R-1000 will reradiate this intermod when it's turned off and the
diodes in the front end are unpowered.

Would the attenuator lose too much signal, or make it an
ideal situation? Testing with a short wire wiped out all but the
strongest signals, and even they weren't enjoyable then.


The 20 dB step on the attenuator makes it useless. There's a mod
on the mods.dk site for changing a bunch of resistors to make it 10
dB per step.

Also, the 12 kHz filter in this radio sounds great on clear mediumwave
stations, are there any shortwave stations that have clear signals and
good audio which I can use this wide filter with (I've been away from


No, not really. That's why there's the plug/cable setup where you
can select for two different selections of wide and narrow for the
front buttons. Plugging the three wire harness (at the mddle of the
top board) into one socket sets it to 2.1/SSB/6narrow/12wide, the other
2.1ssb/2.1narrow/6wide. (I cheat. I came up with a circuit mod using a
CMOS analog switch IC that let's me get all three bandwidths for any
mode by pushing in 1,2 or 3 buttons at the same time.)

There is also an audio bandwidth spoiler circuit that narrows the
bandwidth when the AM-nar button is pressed (or widens it when the
AM-Wide is in) regardless of the other configuration. This, I think,
could be defeated by popping the connector terminal on one of the top
board plugs, but I've never bothered to try that. (Likewise, there's
an RF gain spoiler circuit that lowers the sensitivity below 2 MHz.)

Both the operation and repair manuals are on the mods.dk web site.

the hobby for a while)? Is the excellent audio reputation of the
R-1000 from the stock wide filter alone, or is the entire audio circuit
what makes it so good? If its just the stock filter, wouldn't any
receiver benefit greatly from something wider than the standard 6 kHz
filter in the wide slot?


I'd go with the filter bandwidth. I'm not impressed with the built in
amp and speaker. Not in the same league as an R-5000. You do get pretty
good stuff out of the front panel "record" jack, but it's not the
ultimate AM receiver.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident




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Pete KE9OA wrote:

"Mark Zenier" wrote in message
There's a ton of diodes in the front end (it uses diode switched
bandpass filters), so if you put too much antenna on it, it's
prone to amazing amounts of intermod from nearby medium wave stations.
I found that 200 feet was too much, as I'm 5 miles from Seattle's
medium wave farm on Vashon Island. About 60 feet seems ok.


You should be able to change the front end switching diodes to PIN diodes. A
1N5767 should do the trick. Make sure that they are biased up to at least
15mA.


They're now 1S1587, according to the schematic. I'll have to google and
see what that is.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident


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Pete,

I've been thinking of replacing the front-end bandpass switching diodes
in my R8B to improve (reduce) the 2nd order response. I can sometimes
hear a weak signal on the 25-m band, coming from a very strong station
on 49-m. For example, I recently heard a station on 12000-Khz which was
actually on 6000-Khz with a +40-db signal. I had a similar problem with
my SW8 when it was under warranty. Drake replaced all the front-end
switching diodes and this fixed the problem. Do you think the stock
diodes can become leaky with age? Would the 5767 be a good choice for
the R8B front-end?

Thanks

Pete KE9OA wrote:

You should be able to change the front end switching diodes to PIN diodes. A
1N5767 should do the trick. Make sure that they are biased up to at least
15mA.

Pete

"Mark Zenier" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
wrote:
Recently I picked up an R-1000 in nice condition, and did a search in
this newsgroup, the feeling seems to be that this is basically a decent
receiver with good audio but prone to overloading with a large antenna.

I have a couple of commercial shortwave antennas which I could use when
I get time to put them up, both being about 50' in length, though one
can be shortened if need be. I like to listen to the major
broadcasters but also enjoy touring the 60 meter band for Africans as
well. Can anyone suggest an antenna length that would be best for this
receiver?


There's a ton of diodes in the front end (it uses diode switched
bandpass filters), so if you put too much antenna on it, it's
prone to amazing amounts of intermod from nearby medium wave stations.
I found that 200 feet was too much, as I'm 5 miles from Seattle's
medium wave farm on Vashon Island. About 60 feet seems ok.

Also, you can try running it into the 50 ohm coax plug instead of the
500 ohm push terminal, (and remember to flip the back panel switch ;-) )
, without the matching transformer it's less prone to overload.

I found that, when I bought a FR-200 portable to play with, that
the R-1000 will reradiate this intermod when it's turned off and the
diodes in the front end are unpowered.

Would the attenuator lose too much signal, or make it an
ideal situation? Testing with a short wire wiped out all but the
strongest signals, and even they weren't enjoyable then.


The 20 dB step on the attenuator makes it useless. There's a mod
on the mods.dk site for changing a bunch of resistors to make it 10
dB per step.

Also, the 12 kHz filter in this radio sounds great on clear mediumwave
stations, are there any shortwave stations that have clear signals and
good audio which I can use this wide filter with (I've been away from


No, not really. That's why there's the plug/cable setup where you
can select for two different selections of wide and narrow for the
front buttons. Plugging the three wire harness (at the mddle of the
top board) into one socket sets it to 2.1/SSB/6narrow/12wide, the other
2.1ssb/2.1narrow/6wide. (I cheat. I came up with a circuit mod using a
CMOS analog switch IC that let's me get all three bandwidths for any
mode by pushing in 1,2 or 3 buttons at the same time.)

There is also an audio bandwidth spoiler circuit that narrows the
bandwidth when the AM-nar button is pressed (or widens it when the
AM-Wide is in) regardless of the other configuration. This, I think,
could be defeated by popping the connector terminal on one of the top
board plugs, but I've never bothered to try that. (Likewise, there's
an RF gain spoiler circuit that lowers the sensitivity below 2 MHz.)

Both the operation and repair manuals are on the mods.dk web site.

the hobby for a while)? Is the excellent audio reputation of the
R-1000 from the stock wide filter alone, or is the entire audio circuit
what makes it so good? If its just the stock filter, wouldn't any
receiver benefit greatly from something wider than the standard 6 kHz
filter in the wide slot?


I'd go with the filter bandwidth. I'm not impressed with the built in
amp and speaker. Not in the same league as an R-5000. You do get pretty
good stuff out of the front panel "record" jack, but it's not the
ultimate AM receiver.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident


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