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Old April 8th 05, 11:40 PM
 
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Well, just show your passport and move on! What's the big deal?

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Brenda Ann wrote:
Passport Required To Re-Enter U.S.


4/5/2005 11:00 PM
(WROC-TV)

Better have a passport the next time you plan to go to Canada, it'll

soon be
the law.

The Departments of State and Homeland Security announced the "Western
Hemisphere Travel Initiative" today. It will require all U.S.

citizens,
Canadians, Mexicans, and citizens of Bermuda to have a passport to

enter or
re-enter the U.S.

Currently Americans only have to show their driver's license or

another
government approved ID.

The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act passed last

December by
Congress mandates this change.

Assistant Secretary Of State Maura Harty says, "The Western

Hemisphere
Travel Initiative is an important step in protecting homeland

security and
DHS and the State Department will use all available resources to

implement
this travel initiative by the deadline set forth in law."

Americans will have to display documentation to get back into the

U.S., if
traveling by land or sea, by the end of 2005. That expands to all

travel to
the U.S. by 2006.


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Old April 8th 05, 11:31 PM
 
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I saw that yesterday at www.worldnetdaily.com or at www.infowars.com
wal fart stores have had Gestapo at the front doors for many years.First
you check out at the wal fart stores check out counters,then the wal
fart associaters check you out again before you leave out of the wal
fart front doors.It's their way of making us think they think we are
crooks for shopping at the wal fart stores.
cuhulin

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Old April 8th 05, 11:55 PM
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This ain't Gestapo tactics.

It's border security, and the preservation
of our national sovereignty.

Don't tell me you are THAT stupid, please.

73,

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Old April 9th 05, 12:44 PM
 
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"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote:

This ain't Gestapo tactics.

It's border security, and the preservation
of our national sovereignty.


Don't make me laugh, the Mexican border is WIDE OPEN and I need to
show a passport.
Bull****!


Don't tell me you are THAT stupid, please.

73,


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Old April 9th 05, 12:15 AM
Dan
 
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Think its OK..

Cuts down on people dropping into the USA on forged / Stolen
documents..

&
Imagine calling in Sick To Work from Paradise because
You Have To Wait For The U..S Embassy
to cough up another legit pass port
for you to cover the stolen one...

Barcoding People Entering the US of A..
* Fine* with me

& probaly with the Founding fathers too!..



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Old April 9th 05, 08:04 PM
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"Dan" wrote:


Think its OK..

Cuts down on people dropping into the USA on forged / Stolen
documents..

&
Imagine calling in Sick To Work from Paradise because
You Have To Wait For The U..S Embassy
to cough up another legit pass port
for you to cover the stolen one...

Barcoding People Entering the US of A..
* Fine* with me

& probaly with the Founding fathers too!..


Actually it was a longstanding point of law that you did not have to
produce any ID on demand. Note: *WAS*.

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Old April 9th 05, 12:54 AM
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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...
Passport Required To Re-Enter U.S.


4/5/2005 11:00 PM
(WROC-TV)

Better have a passport the next time you plan to go to Canada, it'll soon

be
the law.

The Departments of State and Homeland Security announced the "Western
Hemisphere Travel Initiative" today. It will require all U.S. citizens,
Canadians, Mexicans, and citizens of Bermuda to have a passport to enter

or
re-enter the U.S.

Currently Americans only have to show their driver's license or another
government approved ID.

The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act passed last December

by
Congress mandates this change.

Assistant Secretary Of State Maura Harty says, "The Western Hemisphere
Travel Initiative is an important step in protecting homeland security and
DHS and the State Department will use all available resources to implement
this travel initiative by the deadline set forth in law."

Americans will have to display documentation to get back into the U.S., if
traveling by land or sea, by the end of 2005. That expands to all travel

to
the U.S. by 2006.



C'mon folks.. you have known me long enough to know that I am a long ways
from a Left Wingnut (or a Right Wingnut for that matter). This is a
restriction on OUR travel as much as it is for others. We've had open
borders with our neighbors for over a century. This will restrict tourism,
commerce and other things vital to our economy. Do we really want to lose
the right to travel freely between us and our neighboring countries, along
with billions of tourist dollars, just for a bit of security that won't even
be there? Think about it folks.. criminals don't give a damn what the law
is, they just go around it. If someone wants to get in to do us harm,
they'll find a way to do it without going through a checkpoint.. just like
background checks for gun sales doesn't even slow down a criminal who wants
a gun... how many of them do you suppose even buys a gun?


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Old April 9th 05, 01:21 AM
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Naww....

Just common sense.. You have to show a passport to leave; so you flash
one coming back in;
- answer the questions, & you're on your way..

& most euro's have passports, so it Won't restrict tourism ..
&
We Don't lose the right to travel freely..
Trave anywhere you want..
Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia , North Korea
( joke here.. )

just needing a U.S Passport to get in

keeps the riff raff out..

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Old April 9th 05, 12:31 PM
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"Dan" wrote in message
ups.com...
& most euro's have passports, ...


Interesting you mention Europe - there is less passport control in Europe
now than there used to be, thanks to the Maastricht Treaty. If you live in,
say Germany, you can cross many borders without stopping and showing any
identification.

Mark.
Auckland
New Zealand.


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Old April 9th 05, 02:57 AM
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Brenda Ann wrote:


"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...
Passport Required To Re-Enter U.S.


4/5/2005 11:00 PM
(WROC-TV)

Better have a passport the next time you plan to go to Canada, it'll soon

be
the law.

The Departments of State and Homeland Security announced the "Western
Hemisphere Travel Initiative" today. It will require all U.S. citizens,
Canadians, Mexicans, and citizens of Bermuda to have a passport to enter

or
re-enter the U.S.

Currently Americans only have to show their driver's license or another
government approved ID.

The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act passed last December

by
Congress mandates this change.

Assistant Secretary Of State Maura Harty says, "The Western Hemisphere
Travel Initiative is an important step in protecting homeland security and
DHS and the State Department will use all available resources to implement
this travel initiative by the deadline set forth in law."

Americans will have to display documentation to get back into the U.S., if
traveling by land or sea, by the end of 2005. That expands to all travel

to
the U.S. by 2006.



C'mon folks.. you have known me long enough to know that I am a long ways
from a Left Wingnut (or a Right Wingnut for that matter). This is a
restriction on OUR travel as much as it is for others. We've had open
borders with our neighbors for over a century. This will restrict tourism,
commerce and other things vital to our economy. Do we really want to lose
the right to travel freely between us and our neighboring countries, along
with billions of tourist dollars, just for a bit of security that won't even
be there? Think about it folks.. criminals don't give a damn what the law
is, they just go around it. If someone wants to get in to do us harm,
they'll find a way to do it without going through a checkpoint.. just like
background checks for gun sales doesn't even slow down a criminal who wants
a gun... how many of them do you suppose even buys a gun?


Soon we will have an "internal passport" that you will be required to
show just to go from one end of town to the other, or go from one metro
area to another, or between states. In Russia they're reintroducing the
internal passport system of the Soviet years in order to stop terrorism.
Osama must love the west, one or two big attacks and we're flailing
around destroying ourselves and all we hold dear just for a false sense
of security. Whatever happened to the home of the free? It's now the
home of the scared, people willing to give their freedoms in the hopes
of being protected from the Big Bad Terrorists. The problem is that
there are always holes, even if you have 100% security and a total
police state you can't stop a determined terrorist. All it does is makes
slaves of law abiding people. But people don't seem to care, they'd
rather be in prison camps because the camp represents security.
Unfortunately, the terrorists can cut the fences, while the people
inside can't.


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