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"running dogg" wrote:

Yes, there are a number of atheists who are angry at God for whatever
reason (strange, since God doesn't exist) and bash everybody of faith
relentlessly. This particular atheist believes that there are good
people of every faith, and that faith per se is not bad. But when
believers want to point a gun at my head and tell me what to believe, or
want to overthrow the US Constitution and replace it with a Christian
version of Iran, I'm gonna get mad. I'm a tolerant guy, but don't touch
my rights under the First Amendment or attempt to overthrow the
Constitution.

Well, I know for a fact that there are many folks who call themselves
"Christians" who would gladly attempt to subvert the Constitution in
an attempt to assert their version of a theocracy. *However*, for
every one of those, there are thousands and thousands who love our
Constitutional Republic, who feel that our rights are given by God and
guaranteed by the Constitution, and who would gladly defend our
Constitution. If a "believer" wants to point a gun at your head, that's
assault. In such a situation, it's probably best to be pointing something
back. (2nd Amendment to the Bill of Rights, and all of that). Problem
solved.

I grew up in Mormonism. Mormons are VERY obsessed with the idea that
Jesus blesses the rich, when in fact Jesus said that a rich man shall
never get into heaven. I am high functioning autistic (Asperger
Syndrome) and my social faux pas'es were ruthlessly mocked by the other
kids and even by some adults. All they wanted was oneupmanship on each
other. I quit at the age of 12 and went in search of a church, then a
religion, that lived up to its ideals. I came up empty-just endless
preaching of intolerance and dumbed down sheep robotically repeating the
hate that spewed forth from the leaders. Then I became an atheist, and
suddenly I became a prime target for every half wit conversion attempt
in existence.

For what it's worth, there are MILLIONS of people who've been down
that very same road you're walking, and I can't fault you for throwing in
the towel. I won't try to convert you (hell, this is rec.radio.shortwave),
but I can say truthfully that it looks like God didn't fail, humanity did.
It's
a story as old as humanity, sadly.

I've heard it all, from instant faith healing of my
problems to the ignorant blather of missionaries trying to sound loving
while thinking "raw meat" in the backs of their minds.

No, the REAL way to fix it is to handle snakes! Well, either that, or
come on down to the "compound." Profit Stair will gladly help you.

At least the
Mormons send their missionaries out at age 19 so they don't have a
chance to get jaded-those freshly scrubbed potato brains from Idaho
really DO believe, they really ARE sincere, and they try their
damnedest. Each missionary converts, on average, one person every six
months out of a total two year assignment.

I've got a tremendous amount of respect for Mormons. I've met dozens
and everyone of them seemed decent, and were full of good will. I've
talked about religion and politics with them, and they seemed to have
sound judgment. I disagree with them doctrinally, but I like their
live-and-
let-live attitude.

73,

Steve

"Buzzygirl" wrote in message
...

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
It was the actions of a number of so called Christians that kept me
out of church for 35 years. What they did and said, and the way they
treated people made me sick.

Heh, reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw not long ago: "I don't have a
problem with God-- it's his fan club I can't stand!"

Jackie

Another one that makes me chuckle goes something along the lines of,
"Dear Lord: Please protect me from your followers. Thanks."

73,

Steve

--
Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, Minnesota

Every moment of a human life is an act of worship.

Coincidence is God's way of being anonymous.

Not sure if a Dutch Pope will go down well though.hes not Italian like John
Paul.
he hates gays though, so hes not all bad!
cuhulin

wrote in message
...
Robert Osborne is a movie narator at TCM on tv. (Turner Classic Movies)
One night after I had finished watching The Boat movie on TCM,Robert
Osborne said Kurt Jergens (Kurt Jergens played the part of the German
Captain on the German Submarine in that movie,I saw the movie when it
first came out many years before the movie came on tv ,Robert Mitchum
played the part of the American Captain on the American U.S.Navy Ship)
sat out World War Two in a German prison because Kurt Jergens disgreed
with hitler's policies.Whenever The Boat movie is on tv and those dudes
are sitting around in the German Submarine and reading books and
magazines and comic books (one of the books is Mein Kampf) and Kurt
Jergens is gazing around at them with that smirk on his mug,I always
find that amusing.Do I like the new Pope? I don't know yet,time will
tell.
cuhulin

I've got a tremendous amount of respect for Mormons. I've met dozens

and everyone of them seemed decent, and were full of good will. I've
talked about religion and politics with them, and they seemed to have
sound judgment. I disagree with them doctrinally, but I like their
live-and-let-live attitude.

73, Steve

Steve, this is the first I've heard of this kindly attitude. I've got
horror stories from more than one former Mormon who were persecuted for
what, in the greater world, would be considered nonissues. In a most
egregious case, I have a friend who was accused of being gay and
drug-addicted, and she was excommunicated by the church (with a great
deal of abuse and trumped up scandal) after disagreeing with her
husband about an issue related their children's schooling. Her husband,
being the fine Mormon that he is, got the church in on it, and in the
course of events she lost her job, was divorced and received no
alimony, and essentially had to leave Utah in order to begin again.
She is now married to another much kinder non-Mormon, her children from
her former marriage are happy to visit often because they understand
the crap she had to go through, and she has started a modestly
successful telescope-making business.

If this is a Mormon's idea of "Live-and-let-live", then I'll be dipped
in ****, rolled in peanuts, and sold as a Baby Ruth bar.

Bruce Jensen

bpnjensen wrote:

I've got a tremendous amount of respect for Mormons. I've met dozens

and everyone of them seemed decent, and were full of good will. I've
talked about religion and politics with them, and they seemed to have
sound judgment. I disagree with them doctrinally, but I like their
live-and-let-live attitude.

73, Steve

Steve, this is the first I've heard of this kindly attitude. I've got
horror stories from more than one former Mormon who were persecuted for
what, in the greater world, would be considered nonissues. In a most
egregious case, I have a friend who was accused of being gay and
drug-addicted, and she was excommunicated by the church (with a great
deal of abuse and trumped up scandal) after disagreeing with her
husband about an issue related their children's schooling. Her husband,
being the fine Mormon that he is, got the church in on it, and in the
course of events she lost her job, was divorced and received no
alimony, and essentially had to leave Utah in order to begin again.
She is now married to another much kinder non-Mormon, her children from
her former marriage are happy to visit often because they understand
the crap she had to go through, and she has started a modestly
successful telescope-making business.

If this is a Mormon's idea of "Live-and-let-live", then I'll be dipped
in ****, rolled in peanuts, and sold as a Baby Ruth bar.

A fantasy of yours?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I spent two weeks at Fort Jackson,South Carolina in 1962.Some of us
dudes were in a holding pattern there,waiting on a spot at Fort
Gordon,Georgia (Company D 5 2,Delta Company 5th Battalion,2nd Regiment)
to finish up so us dudes could go there and begin our Basic
Training,(Boot Camp) U.S.Army.That woman in the Day Room at Fort Jackson
told me to Please turn your radio down,you are drowning out the Piano!
The entire City of Columbia,South Carolina is within the boundary of
Fort Jackson.
cuhulin

In limeyland,they have what they call a Bank Holiday and lots of folks
over there take off for Bank Holiday.
cuhulin

I don't know any gays,I don't ever want to know any gays either.I will
NOT!!!!!!!! associate with any gays at all!!!!!!,Period!!!!!!! I
HATE!!!!! gays.gays are ALL a bunch of SICKOS!!!!! All of the folks I
know are straight.
cuhulin

wrote:
In limeyland,they have what they call a Bank Holiday and lots of
folks
over there take off for Bank Holiday.
cuhulin

I'm sure there are holidays in Mongolia, Thailand and many other
countries too. The subject was "official holidays" in America. Or, are
you so brain dead you forgot the topic?

If their is a "Confederacy of Dunces," you are the General!

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