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![]() I usually learn something useful from your postings and enjoy reading about the repairs and mods you've made and the progress on the MW receiver. I've got some questions you might be able to help me with regarding the DX-394 and intermod. I'm wondering what one might do to improve its strong signal intermod performance. It uses HSU277 diodes to switch among 3 SW preselector bands and 1SS272 diodes for the LW/MW bands. I have nearly doubled the reverse bias and forward current by switching from the 7V supply to the 13.8V supply with little obvious benefit. At best, I can shove 10-12 mA through them. Is there any point in changing the diodes? If so, what would you suggest? I think SMD's are preferable so as not to degrade stray coupling. Did you do the I.F mods that are on www.mods.dk ? I remember that this receiver didn't have the I.F. filters terminated properly and the result was signal feedaround, which manifested itself as being able to hear adjacent signals superimposed on the desired signal. An example of this would be listening to KAAY on 1090 and hearing that Cleveland station from 1100kHz coming in as a background signal. Not splatter, mind you, but sounding as if it is on 1090 itself. Now, as far as filter switching diodes, my favorite (doesn't mean that this is the best) is the 1N5767 PIN diode, biased at around 75mA. I have had good results using leaded devices. The RF preamp is a 3SK195 and the 1st mixer uses a pair of these balanced for RF and driven in parallel by the LO. Is there any point in paralleling a second 3SK195 (piggyback style) on the preamp? on the mixer? Or changing out the transistor type? How would one determine/set the correct operating point? The radio doesn't seem bad in this respect. I haven't had one for several years, so I wouldn't be able to give an intelligent answer without the schematic. You could look at the Icom R75 schematic and see how they implement their RF amp. I believe that they do use the configuration that you suggest. The 1st IF (45 MHz) filter is a 2-pole crystal filter with 15kHz bw at -3dB, 100kHz at -24 dB. I acquired a 30kHz/-3dB, 120kHz/-40dB matched pair that I was thinking of substituting in order to widen bandwidth for DRM. Note that the centre of the 2nd IF tunes across a 5kHz segment of the 1st IF passband so that a 10kHz or wider bw at the 2nd IF rolls off on one side or the other because of the shoulders of the 15kHz 1st IF. Is this a bad idea for intermod? The stopband attenuation is going to be poorer out to maybe 50-60 kHz bw but should be better beyond that, apart from stray coupling due to squeezing in a pair of filters where one would ordinarily be. What are your thoughts? 73, Tom Tom, you should be able to use a wider bandwidth crystal filter. The natural impedance of the filter would probably be different than the current filter. If the impedance matching is not correct, you will have a couple of problems. First of all, the insertion loss and passband ripple can increase. If group delay is important for DRM, this could be a problem. I don't know if bit error rate is a consideration in this case. Secondly, I would take a look at the 910kHz rejection of the filter that you are considering. If it is not high enough, you will be able to hear that (2 X 2nd I.F) response. |
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"Pete KE9OA" wrote in message
... Did you do the I.F mods that are on www.mods.dk ? I remember that this Thanks for the response, Pete. Yes, very effective. BTW, I posted the mods there. Now, as far as filter switching diodes, my favorite (doesn't mean that this is the best) is the 1N5767 PIN diode, biased at around 75mA. I have had good results using leaded devices. Is that still a good choice if I can push only 10-12mA? It would require a complete redesign to go higher. The RF preamp is a 3SK195 and the 1st mixer uses a pair of these balanced for RF and driven in parallel by the LO. Is there any point in paralleling a second 3SK195 (piggyback style) on the preamp? on the mixer? Or changing out the transistor type? How would one determine/set the correct operating point? The radio doesn't seem bad in this respect. I haven't had one for several years, so I wouldn't be able to give an intelligent answer without the schematic. You could look at the Icom R75 schematic and see how they implement their RF amp. I believe that they do use the configuration that you suggest. I really meant piggyback! No additional components but probably would have to change out the resistors to set the operating point correctly. Wondered if it was a crazy idea or had merit. The 1st IF (45 MHz) filter is a 2-pole crystal filter with 15kHz bw at -3dB, 100kHz at -24 dB. I acquired a 30kHz/-3dB, 120kHz/-40dB matched pair that I was thinking of substituting in order to widen bandwidth for DRM. Note that the centre of the 2nd IF tunes across a 5kHz segment of the 1st IF passband so that a 10kHz or wider bw at the 2nd IF rolls off on one side or the other because of the shoulders of the 15kHz 1st IF. Is this a bad idea for intermod? The stopband attenuation is going to be poorer out to maybe 50-60 kHz bw but should be better beyond that, apart from stray coupling due to squeezing in a pair of filters where one would ordinarily be. What are your thoughts? 73, Tom Tom, you should be able to use a wider bandwidth crystal filter. The natural impedance of the filter would probably be different than the current filter. If the impedance matching is not correct, you will have a couple of problems. First of all, the insertion loss and passband ripple can increase. If group delay is important for DRM, this could be a problem. I don't know if bit error rate is a consideration in this case. Secondly, I would take a look at the 910kHz rejection of the filter that you are considering. If it is not high enough, you will be able to hear that (2 X 2nd I.F) response. I am looking for a wider, flatter response around the uniform spectral density of the common 10kHz DRM channel for better group delay but I'm not sure that DRM is so very susceptible because there is pronounced and dynamic group delay inherent in ionospheric propagation. A 1dB ripple is considered ideal so I imagine that a flat amplitude-frequency and linear phase-frequency response in the radio have a small beneficial effect on the rate of successful decoding. There is also a 20kHz wide DRM mode. The 4-pole cascaded filter is spec'd to have minimum attenuation of 70dB at +/- 910kHz and 800ohms/1pF terminating impedance. The filter it replaces is unspecified at +/-910kHz but I would guess that it is 35-40 dB; its term impedance is 560/6 ohms/pF. So the 910kHz image suppression should be improved by up to 35 dB less strays. Filter loss will increase by 1.5 dB per spec. If the circuit currently matches the stock filter, is the ripple and increased loss liable to be severe? 73, Tom |
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