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FDR April 29th 05 01:48 AM

Funny...
 

"beerbarrel" wrote in message
...
Listening to the radio and heard new reports on the Italian incident.
It seems that the whole event was caught by satellite and the car that
was carrying the reporter was traveling in excess of 60 mph.


Just how was it captured by satellite?

There are
also reports that a ransom of about 2 million dollars was paid to the
terrorists to secure the reporter's release. It seems the soldiers
were telling the truth. How come I'm not surprised?




m II April 29th 05 02:35 AM

FDR wrote:
"beerbarrel" wrote in message
...

Listening to the radio and heard new reports on the Italian incident.
It seems that the whole event was caught by satellite and the car that
was carrying the reporter was traveling in excess of 60 mph.



Just how was it captured by satellite?




The same way the weapons of mass destruction were pinpointed. It's a slam dunk.






mike

FDR April 29th 05 04:33 AM


"-=jd=-" wrote in message
. 21...
On Thu 28 Apr 2005 08:55:52p, beerbarrel wrote in
message :

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 00:48:45 GMT, "FDR"
wrote:


"beerbarrel" wrote in message
...
Listening to the radio and heard new reports on the Italian incident.
It seems that the whole event was caught by satellite and the car that
was carrying the reporter was traveling in excess of 60 mph.

Just how was it captured by satellite?



Beats me...I'm just the messenger. I would doubt that they would
release that info anyway.


The satellite has a camera that can image a *large* chunk of geography at
one time at something less than 1-meter resolution. The satellite also
date/time-stamps any images it may happen to acquire. What are the odds
there are satellites targeting and imaging Iraq while U.S. troops are in
harms way over there? If those odds are acceptable, what are the odds that
while imaging something else entirely different, the camera footprint just
happened to cover the area of the roadblock (and quite a few other grid-
squares as well)?

Multiple images of a given area taken at slightly different times will
reveal a bit of useful info regarding objects in motion.

I would imagine that fate smiled and (unexpectedly) a sufficient number of
frames captured some aspect of the roadblock incident. At least enough to
cast doubt on the reporter's version of events. Even without satellite
imagery, it is my understanding that her story was unravelling a bit all
on
it's own...


Unless the imagery was real time, I doubt there was such evidence. And if
the imagerey was still pictures, we are talking about being able to measure
things at fractions of a second. I'd really like to know how such satellite
imagery was able to determine this. I mean, I could see a drone figuring
this out, but a sattelite?


-=jd=-
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FDR April 29th 05 04:35 AM


"Leonard Martin" wrote in message
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In article hbgce.5783$0X6.1338@edtnps90, m II
wrote:

FDR wrote:
"beerbarrel" wrote in message
...

Listening to the radio and heard new reports on the Italian incident.
It seems that the whole event was caught by satellite and the car that
was carrying the reporter was traveling in excess of 60 mph.


Just how was it captured by satellite?




The same way the weapons of mass destruction were pinpointed. It's a slam
dunk.






mike



Yep, let those military folks use their own satellites to exonerate
themselves. Good idea! This self-exoneration thing worked great when
their own investigation of the Iraq prison mistreatments found that
SURPRISE! only one officer had any culpability in it. Otherwise it was
just the usual "bad apples" who are invariably found responsible for
every atrocity everywhere.


To be more correct, it was the work of the liberal media. I hope I was able
to set the record straight.


Leonard

--
"Everything that rises must converge"
--Flannery O'Connor




Al Patrick April 29th 05 12:54 PM

Ever notice how they *claim* they can read license plates in the Kremlin
parking lot but they have to search for months to find a $15,000,000
plane? .... Or how the Pentagon loses THREE TRILLION DOLLARS? Seems
they couldn't find their butt with both hands but they can spot a gnat
on a toad planets away! YEAH! :-)

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FDR wrote:

"Leonard Martin" wrote in message
...

In article hbgce.5783$0X6.1338@edtnps90, m II
wrote:


FDR wrote:

"beerbarrel" wrote in message
m...


Listening to the radio and heard new reports on the Italian incident.
It seems that the whole event was caught by satellite and the car that
was carrying the reporter was traveling in excess of 60 mph.


Just how was it captured by satellite?



The same way the weapons of mass destruction were pinpointed. It's a slam
dunk.






mike



Yep, let those military folks use their own satellites to exonerate
themselves. Good idea! This self-exoneration thing worked great when
their own investigation of the Iraq prison mistreatments found that
SURPRISE! only one officer had any culpability in it. Otherwise it was
just the usual "bad apples" who are invariably found responsible for
every atrocity everywhere.



To be more correct, it was the work of the liberal media. I hope I was able
to set the record straight.


Leonard

--
"Everything that rises must converge"
--Flannery O'Connor





Stephen M.H. Lawrence April 29th 05 07:28 PM

"beerbarrel" wrote:
Listening to the radio and heard new reports on the Italian incident.
It seems that the whole event was caught by satellite and the car that
was carrying the reporter was traveling in excess of 60 mph. There are
also reports that a ransom of about 2 million dollars was paid to the
terrorists to secure the reporter's release. It seems the soldiers
were telling the truth. How come I'm not surprised?


To the conspiracy-minded folk, it looks like a win/win for the Commies.
Or, maybe even a tidy triple-play:

(1) Communist reporter lives -- and becomes a hero.

(2) Intel guy is dead -- and was probably an anti-Communist
(Or at least neutral).

(3) Tangoes get 2 million dollars.

Wait, there's a number (4) in the wings, at least a half-assed one:
Berlusconi got skinned, in terms of his credibility.

73,

Steve
--
Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, Minnesota

Every moment of a human life is an act
of worship.

Coincidence is God's way of being anonymous.



FDR April 30th 05 01:33 AM


"beerbarrel" wrote in message
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On 29 Apr 2005 21:24:16 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:



JSTARS can track pretty much anything that moves within it's range on
land,
sea or in the air. I recall someone advising it could track everything
from
cars to aircraft -- that it could track something with the dimensions of a
port-a-potty on the periphery of it's range, so long as it was traveling
at a
speed of classified or faster. At least, that's what *I* was told by a
trusted acquaintance...

-=jd=-



Do you remember that long column of trucks, tanks and crap heading out
of Kuwait? Those guys are well aware of what Jstars can do. Also,
weather is pretty much a non issue. They can't hide in sandstorms
anymore. Back to the satellite thing. They do not need moving targets
to calculate the speed of a vehicle. If they know the time between
still pictures, they can calculate the vehicle speed. Bottom line, the
old lady was either lying or confused.


Well, that's the key issue obviously. Time. Do these things count in
fractions of a second?



CW April 30th 05 05:56 PM

They don't need to. Time interval is of no importance as long as it is
regular.

"FDR" wrote in message
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Well, that's the key issue obviously. Time. Do these things count in
fractions of a second?





John Verdana April 30th 05 08:22 PM

"beerbarrel" wrote in message
...
Listening to the radio and heard new reports on the Italian incident.
It seems that the whole event was caught by satellite and the car that
was carrying the reporter was traveling in excess of 60 mph. There are
also reports that a ransom of about 2 million dollars was paid to the
terrorists to secure the reporter's release. It seems the soldiers
were telling the truth. How come I'm not surprised?


Because you choose only to believe the parts of what you hear that concur
with your pre-judgement.

This happened in the dead of night in a war-torn country. The chances of a
satellite contributing anything of relevance is very small, and the chances
of you being privvy to it are zero. You will never know the truth, and to
convince yourself otherwise is ridiculous. Have the US never played dirty?
Have the Italians never played dirty? Which of the two liars are we to
believe?



[email protected] May 1st 05 12:19 AM

Larry once told me that car was flipping along at 100 miles per hour and
it was hydroplaning all over the place.things he knows about satellites
and stuff,sometimes i wonder.
~Alice~



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