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C. B. May 8th 05 04:02 AM

Defusing a Nuclear Nightmare
 
FYI

Defusing a Nuclear Nightmare PDF
Playthell Benjamin

After the successful exploding of the first atomic bomb in the desert
of New Mexico - where scientists working on the super secret
“Manhattan Project” based at the Los Alamos weapons laboratory had
produced this technological monster - Dr. Albert Einstein, the world’s
most distinguished scientist, observed that everything in the world
had changed…except the character of human beings.



This was a chilling revelation, because it meant that the same flawed,
ego-driven homo sapiens that had waged countless wars inspired by
greed, land hunger and the will to power, now had the power to destroy
the world. Which means that a psychology which was sufficient for
human survival when we were fighting with bows and arrows, or muskets
and cannons, or even tanks, airplanes, and battleships, would no
longer be sufficient to insure the survival of human beings in the
atomic age.

Von Clauswitz’s legendary laws of war no longer applied, because he
saw war as an extension of politics, and politics is the art of the
possible. Now the supreme enemy became war itself, because a war
between nuclear powers will yield no winners. Thus victory in atomic
warfare is impossible!


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The decision of the US government to use atomic weapons against the
Japanese in 1945, the greatest assault on a civilian population in
history – 9/11 pales in comparison.

– It was a deadly manifestation of the arrogance of American power,
and speaks poignantly to Dr. Einstein’s warning 60 years ago. Dropping
the Atomic bomb on Japan set off a nuclear arms race that is cause for
great anxiety all over the world today.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Most Americans however are in denial, and I believe this is because
the consequences of nuclear war are so frightening that they just tune
it out and simply refuse to inform themselves on the subject.

This willful ignorance explains why the peoples who reside in the
nations that stockpile atomic weapons don’t take to the streets
en-masse in protracted demonstrations demanding that their governments
take the lead in banning the bomb.

And there is no population that bears a greater responsibility for
petitioning their government to lead the world in nuclear disarmament
than the citizens of the United States!



This historical responsibility falls squarely upon us because the
nuclear menace that imperils the fate of the earth is wholly an
American invention – as was germ warfare when American scientists
first weaponized germs at Fort Dietrich. I feel the responsibility to
fight for nuclear disarmament acutely, because I once served in the
Strategic Air Command, which was, at the time, America’s premiere
nuclear strike force.

Therefore I have a thorough knowledge of the unimaginable horrors
nuclear war will bring. Assigned to Combat Defense and given a “Top
Secret” security clearance, I became a member of the force whose
mission was the physical defense of the Strategic Air command base to
which I was stationed.



Always heavily armed, our duties consisted of physically securing the
Atomic weapons stockpiles from which we armed the bombers, the bombers
themselves, and manning and securing the complex electronic systems in
Central Security Control, the command center from which a world-wide
alert to America’s nuclear forces could originate or be received.

The Mission of our base, which was located on the “DEW,” or Distance
Early Warning Line,” up on the Canadian Border, was the nuclear
annihilation of the Soviet Union. Then we were using manned bombers
to deliver the payload, today the world can be turned into burned out
radio active pile of rubble within half an hour from now.

So unlike those who have buried their heads in the sand, I know too
much to hide. I am ever aware of the disasters that lurk on the
nuclear horizon.



I have no doubt that the automatons who are trained to push the
buttons will launch on command; I know there was a time when I would
have. They have been well trained to perform this doom’s day task. I
was in the Strategic Air Command when it was a led by General Curtis
LeMay, who served as a model for the crackpot “General Jack T.
Ripper,” who starts a nuclear war in the frightening classic movie
“Dr. Strangelove:

How I Came to Love the Bomb.” It was a paranoid existence, because
they had us thinking that Russian spies and saboteurs were everywhere.
I was young and dumb, had grown up with atomic bomb drills, was highly
patriotic the way southerners tend to be, and thus I didn’t question
anything they told us – at first!

By convincing us that we were in imminent danger of being overrun by
the evil communists – aided by a poster of a menacing looking Russian
leader, Nikita Khrushchev, pointing his finger straight at you from
all angles, with the caption “We will bury you!” – our officers
convincingly indoctrinated us into the belief that a nuclear attack on
the Soviet Union was a reasonable thing to contemplate.



But once I began to attend classes about the destructive power of the
nuclear payloads carried by the B-52 bombers on the base – which the
instructors proudly pointed out made the unspeakably horrible bombs
our nation dropped on Japan look like mere firecrackers – I began to
strongly suspect that the whole thing was madness, especially since
they had previously shown us official Strategic Air Command films of
the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Over four decades later I still think it’s madness! I also think
that it is up to us, the enlightened American citizenry, to elect a
government with a mandate to lead the world in a great awakening that
will put an end to this madness before it’s too late. That is the
greatest honor we can pay to the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, who
became guinea pigs for an American experiment with atomic weapons.



Anyone who is naïve enough to believe that race had nothing to do with
it, that it made no difference that the Japanese were Asians rather
than Europeans, should hurry up and read Dr. Gerald Horne’s recent
book on the war for control of the Pacific, “Race War!”

One of our finest contemporary historians, Professor Horne presents
voluminous evidence regarding the terror white Americans felt at the
rising power of colored Japan in a world dominated by nations
committed to “white supremacy,

” especially the Anglo-Saxons of Briton and the United States.
Consulting official government documents, newspaper clippings, and
personal papers of important government officials, Horne recounts
white America’s hysteria at signs of a growing diplomatic relationship
between Japan and Mexico – a country the Anglos had repeatedly bullied
and robbed.

In numerous statements white Americans made it abundantly clear that
they would not tolerate a military alliance between these two
“colored” nations. And Dr. Horne meticulously documents the fact that
the Japanese certainly saw their participation in World War II as a
struggle against white supremacy!



Whatever the official lip service given to racial equality in
America’s anti-Nazi propaganda – which led many white Americans, but
by no means all, to root for Joe Louis against the German boxer Max
Schmeling - the real U.S. position on the question of racial equality
between the world’s races is summed up in a candid quote from
President Harry Truman. “I think one man is as good as another so long
as he is honest and decent and not a ****** or a Chinaman.

Uncle Will…does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race
prejudice I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion that Negroes ought
to be in Africa, yellow men in Asia, and white men in Europe and
America.” Remember, this is the man who gave the command to drop the
atomic bomb on Japan!

And even he was forced to restrain the rage of General Douglass
McArthur, who wanted to use nuclear weapons against China when the war
in Korea was going badly several years later.

Hear! Hear! mon frere!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thus there is no more ridiculous spectacle in the world
today than the hysterical cries of the Bush Administration railing
against Iran or North Korea who may be building a bomb or two, while
the American nuclear arsenal houses thousands of nuclear bombs, and
our military has the ability to strike targets with precision anywhere
in the world within minutes.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And they have demonstrated their willingness to use them against
non-Europeans. This awesome power was designed to blackmail the rest
of the world into submission to America’s will, particularly the
“Third World.”

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In a typical example of white American hubris, the architects of this
policy of nuclear intimidation never imagined that nuclear technology
would spread to other nations in the world and come back to haunt us.
But it has. And what’s more those of us who live in major cities must
now worry about somebody planting one of those fifteen suitcase nukes
that are missing from the Russian arsenal.



Those who built and deployed atomic weapons against Japan, along with
their apologists, have always argued that this was a noble act, a
necessity of war. While an argument can certainly be made for building
the bomb, mainly the warnings from émigré’ European scientists like
Dr. Einstein that the Germans were on the way to discovering the
secrets of atomic fission, the justification for bombing Japan is
another matter entirely.

As far as I am concerned the slightest possibility that Adolph
Hitler could have acquired the bomb first was reason enough for
Americans to build the bomb. But given what we now know about what
America and her allies knew regarding the condition of Japan in 1945,
and the willingness of America’s Russian allies to invade Japan with
her armies stationed in China, the evidence clearly shows that
Truman’s alibi that he dropped the bomb on Japan in order to spare the
lives of American soldiers is a self-serving lie!



There is compelling evidence that Truman’s closest advisors had ruled
out other avenues to peace, against the advice of more level headed
professional analysts in the military and State Department. The
breadth and gravitas of this evidence is beyond the scope of this
commentary, but a search on Google.com will reveal a wealth of
information on this subject, providing compelling evidence of Truman’s
criminal folly.

But now, in some strange cosmic turn of fate, the threat of nuclear
annihilation hangs over our heads, and we’ve got a pugnacious
ignoramus in the White House who is trying to destroy the few
safeguards that presently exist against accidental nuclear holocaust,
by unilaterally abrogating the ABM Treaty and openly proposing to
manufacture tactical nuclear bombs for use in risky military conflicts
where American forces could suffer great casualties – such as a land
war in Asia.

But isn’t that the same rationale Truman used to drop atomic bombs on
the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? No wonder the North Koreans are
nervous and feel that they must build their own nuclear arsenal as
deterrence to American aggression.



Furthermore Condoleezza Rice, AKA “Madam Hawk,” and the neo-con gang’s
insistence that American scientists be permitted to inspect top secret
nuclear weapons sites in Russia, while denying reciprocal privileges
to the Russian scientists on American soil, insults Russian national
pride and is certain to result in a less stable nuclear environment.

That’s why we must restrain these devils who would burn up the world
in their quest for global domination. We must rise up and stop the
madness! Mao Tse Tung, who led the great revolution that transformed
China, the world’s most populous nation, from a backward semi-feudal
society to a modern world power, once called the atomic bomb a “Paper
Tiger,” and predicted: “The atomic bomb will not destroy mankind,
mankind will destroy the Atomic bomb.

” With atomic bombs proliferating everywhere the odds seem stacked
against us, yet we must struggle to make sure Chairman Mao was right.
Nothing less than the fate of the earth hangs on the outcome.

10 Stars Excellent, factual article **********

White people must act now to stop the madness of their ethnic group,
or the entire planet including them will perish.

Just one of those things that make you go hummmm.


Who deserves to be impeached and imprisoned the most?
A president receiving face from an adult willing female?

Or a president who lies to over four people
worldwide and then orders the attack and destruction
of hundreds of thousands of innocents, 1,600 American
GI'S killed and over 25,000 permanently disfigured?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nature...no_color_lines

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/grou...Young_Females/

Telamon May 8th 05 04:45 AM

In article ,
C. B. wrote:

FYI

Defusing a Nuclear Nightmare PDF
Playthell Benjamin


Snip

Stupidly flawed thinking.

For posting this off topic screed I sentence you to watch" Dr.
Strangelove or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb" at
least 10 times.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Michael A. Terrell May 8th 05 06:26 AM

"C. B." wrote:

FYI:



You are a babbling, brain dead idiot. Have someone read some history
books about WWII to you. The bombs were dropped without a lot of
consideration, but it was the only way to bring the war to an end, and
save a lot of lives. The Japanese military was heavily entrenched in
both Nagasaki and Hiroshima, like a lot of other countries place their
military bases in or near large civilian populations. It takes a lot of
people to support their military in time of war. You're also forgetting
that the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor that had a lot of civilians
working there. Not that I blame you for forgetting. After all, it must
be very difficult to function in this modern world with no working brain
cells.

--
Former professional electron wrangler.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

[email protected] May 8th 05 08:15 AM

Please take 3 Prozac with a pint of Jack Daniels. This will help.


RHF May 8th 05 09:04 AM

C.B.,

LC May 8th 05 02:54 PM

"C. B." wrote in message
...
FYI

Defusing a Nuclear Nightmare PDF
Playthell Benjamin

After the successful exploding of the first atomic bomb in the desert
of New Mexico - where scientists working on the super secret
"Manhattan Project" based at the Los Alamos weapons laboratory had
produced this technological monster - Dr. Albert Einstein, the world's
most distinguished scientist, observed that everything in the world
had changed.except the character of human beings.


The above is the only sliver of sense in this NeoCommunist propaganda peice.

NeoCom: "Yes, it is sad that the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany didn't use
"the bomb" first."

Doh!





m II May 8th 05 03:54 PM

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

You are a babbling, brain dead idiot. Have someone read some history
books about WWII to you.



(rest of insulting, dxAce style posting snipped...)


================================================== =====
On December 7, 1941, Japanese bombers attacked the US Pacific Fleet in Pearl
Harbour, Hawaii, killing about 2,460.41

FDR, and his closest advisors, not only knew of the attack in advance and did
not prevent it, they had actually provoked it. Lt. Arthur McCollum, head of the
Far East desk for U.S. Navy intelligence, wrote a detailed eight-step plan on
October 7, 1940 that was designed to provoke an attack.42 FDR immediately set
the covert plan in motion. Soon after implementing the final step, Japan
attacked Pearl Harbour.

After meeting FDR on October 16, 1941, Secretary of War Henry Stimson wrote: "We
face the delicate question of the diplomatic fencing to be done so as to be sure
Japan is put into the wrong and makes the first bad move -- overt move." On
November 25, after another meeting with FDR, Stimson wrote: "The question was:
how we should maneuver them [the Japanese] into the position of firing the
first shot."43

The US had cracked Japanese diplomatic and military codes.44 A Top Secret Army
Board report (October 1944), shows that the US military knew "the probable exact
hour and date of the attack."45 On November 29, 1941, the Secretary of State
revealed to a reporter that the attack's time and place was known. This
foreknowledge was reported in the New York Times (Dec. 8, 1941).46


http://victoria.tc.ca/~d.piney/US-War.htm


================================================== ============

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/pearl.html





mike





dxAce May 8th 05 03:56 PM



m II wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

You are a babbling, brain dead idiot. Have someone read some history
books about WWII to you.


(rest of insulting, dxAce style posting snipped...)


(Dumb ass Canadian BS snipped)

Take your meds prior to posting here, 'tard boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


m II May 8th 05 04:01 PM

dxAce wrote:

(Dumb ass Canadian BS snipped)

Take your meds prior to posting here, 'tard boy.



Get some vocabulary, Bozo..and stop living off the avails.







mike

dxAce May 8th 05 04:03 PM



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

(Dumb ass Canadian BS snipped)

Take your meds prior to posting here, 'tard boy.


Get some vocabulary, Bozo..and stop living off the avails.


You should realize by now that I certainly don't take advice from 'tards in
CanaDuh. Who in their right mind would?

Go tote it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Frank White May 8th 05 04:17 PM

In article , lid says...

In article ,
C. B. wrote:

FYI

Defusing a Nuclear Nightmare PDF
Playthell Benjamin


Snip

Stupidly flawed thinking.

For posting this off topic screed I sentence you to watch" Dr.
Strangelove or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb" at
least 10 times.


But 'Doc Strangelove' is an ENTERTAINING movie and watching
it wouldn't be a punishment!

Besides, his thinking is so screwed up, he might regard it as
a documentary...

"Hands of Manos". We'll put him in an orbital space station
with several crazy robots and show him that and other stupid
movies until he grows some SMARTS.

Shouldn't take more than a couple of centuries.

Shortwave

FW


Howard May 8th 05 04:41 PM

On Sun, 08 May 2005 11:03:57 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

(Dumb ass Canadian BS snipped)

Take your meds prior to posting here, 'tard boy.


Get some vocabulary, Bozo..and stop living off the avails.


You should realize by now that I certainly don't take advice from 'tards in
CanaDuh. Who in their right mind would?

Folks in France??

Go tote it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce May 8th 05 05:23 PM



Howard wrote:

On Sun, 08 May 2005 11:03:57 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

(Dumb ass Canadian BS snipped)

Take your meds prior to posting here, 'tard boy.

Get some vocabulary, Bozo..and stop living off the avails.


You should realize by now that I certainly don't take advice from 'tards in
CanaDuh. Who in their right mind would?

Folks in France??


Most likely.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



McNeil May 8th 05 05:24 PM

In article ,
Howard wrote:

You should realize by now that I certainly don't take advice from 'tards in
CanaDuh. Who in their right mind would?



Folks in France??



quick howie, pass that info off to israel

Howard May 8th 05 05:55 PM

On Sun, 08 May 2005 12:24:50 -0400, McNeil wrote:

In article ,
Howard wrote:

You should realize by now that I certainly don't take advice from 'tards in
CanaDuh. Who in their right mind would?



Folks in France??



quick howie, pass that info off to israel


Already done. They responded that they'll consider the Canadian
advice if and only if it irritates England, is warmly received by
Egypt and earns them favorable trade with China.

Namikis May 8th 05 06:02 PM

How is watching Doc Strangelove punishment? - your thinking is flawed as
far as sentencing is concerned. Make him watch Rocky V or Conan the
Barbarian or any movie with Ben Afleck and J Lo in it - that is real
punishment. Doctor Strangelove is a comedic masterpiece. Anyone remember
the CRM114 discriminator the B52s had attached to the SSB radios in that
movie?

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
C. B. wrote:

FYI

Defusing a Nuclear Nightmare PDF
Playthell Benjamin


Snip

Stupidly flawed thinking.

For posting this off topic screed I sentence you to watch" Dr.
Strangelove or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb" at
least 10 times.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California




Namikis May 8th 05 06:05 PM

Also: if you are going to post off-topic ridiculous messages like these,
could you be more concise? Your irational idiocy will be more appealing in
a smaller package. Also: link it to shortwave somehow and I will be
impressed, if not remotely persuaded to agree with you.

"C. B." wrote in message
...
FYI

Defusing a Nuclear Nightmare PDF
Playthell Benjamin

After the successful exploding of the first atomic bomb in the desert
of New Mexico - where scientists working on the super secret
"Manhattan Project" based at the Los Alamos weapons laboratory had
produced this technological monster - Dr. Albert Einstein, the world's
most distinguished scientist, observed that everything in the world
had changed.except the character of human beings.



This was a chilling revelation, because it meant that the same flawed,
ego-driven homo sapiens that had waged countless wars inspired by
greed, land hunger and the will to power, now had the power to destroy
the world. Which means that a psychology which was sufficient for
human survival when we were fighting with bows and arrows, or muskets
and cannons, or even tanks, airplanes, and battleships, would no
longer be sufficient to insure the survival of human beings in the
atomic age.

Von Clauswitz's legendary laws of war no longer applied, because he
saw war as an extension of politics, and politics is the art of the
possible. Now the supreme enemy became war itself, because a war
between nuclear powers will yield no winners. Thus victory in atomic
warfare is impossible!


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The decision of the US government to use atomic weapons against the
Japanese in 1945, the greatest assault on a civilian population in
history - 9/11 pales in comparison.

- It was a deadly manifestation of the arrogance of American power,
and speaks poignantly to Dr. Einstein's warning 60 years ago. Dropping
the Atomic bomb on Japan set off a nuclear arms race that is cause for
great anxiety all over the world today.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Most Americans however are in denial, and I believe this is because
the consequences of nuclear war are so frightening that they just tune
it out and simply refuse to inform themselves on the subject.

This willful ignorance explains why the peoples who reside in the
nations that stockpile atomic weapons don't take to the streets
en-masse in protracted demonstrations demanding that their governments
take the lead in banning the bomb.

And there is no population that bears a greater responsibility for
petitioning their government to lead the world in nuclear disarmament
than the citizens of the United States!



This historical responsibility falls squarely upon us because the
nuclear menace that imperils the fate of the earth is wholly an
American invention - as was germ warfare when American scientists
first weaponized germs at Fort Dietrich. I feel the responsibility to
fight for nuclear disarmament acutely, because I once served in the
Strategic Air Command, which was, at the time, America's premiere
nuclear strike force.

Therefore I have a thorough knowledge of the unimaginable horrors
nuclear war will bring. Assigned to Combat Defense and given a "Top
Secret" security clearance, I became a member of the force whose
mission was the physical defense of the Strategic Air command base to
which I was stationed.



Always heavily armed, our duties consisted of physically securing the
Atomic weapons stockpiles from which we armed the bombers, the bombers
themselves, and manning and securing the complex electronic systems in
Central Security Control, the command center from which a world-wide
alert to America's nuclear forces could originate or be received.

The Mission of our base, which was located on the "DEW," or Distance
Early Warning Line," up on the Canadian Border, was the nuclear
annihilation of the Soviet Union. Then we were using manned bombers
to deliver the payload, today the world can be turned into burned out
radio active pile of rubble within half an hour from now.

So unlike those who have buried their heads in the sand, I know too
much to hide. I am ever aware of the disasters that lurk on the
nuclear horizon.



I have no doubt that the automatons who are trained to push the
buttons will launch on command; I know there was a time when I would
have. They have been well trained to perform this doom's day task. I
was in the Strategic Air Command when it was a led by General Curtis
LeMay, who served as a model for the crackpot "General Jack T.
Ripper," who starts a nuclear war in the frightening classic movie
"Dr. Strangelove:

How I Came to Love the Bomb." It was a paranoid existence, because
they had us thinking that Russian spies and saboteurs were everywhere.
I was young and dumb, had grown up with atomic bomb drills, was highly
patriotic the way southerners tend to be, and thus I didn't question
anything they told us - at first!

By convincing us that we were in imminent danger of being overrun by
the evil communists - aided by a poster of a menacing looking Russian
leader, Nikita Khrushchev, pointing his finger straight at you from
all angles, with the caption "We will bury you!" - our officers
convincingly indoctrinated us into the belief that a nuclear attack on
the Soviet Union was a reasonable thing to contemplate.



But once I began to attend classes about the destructive power of the
nuclear payloads carried by the B-52 bombers on the base - which the
instructors proudly pointed out made the unspeakably horrible bombs
our nation dropped on Japan look like mere firecrackers - I began to
strongly suspect that the whole thing was madness, especially since
they had previously shown us official Strategic Air Command films of
the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Over four decades later I still think it's madness! I also think
that it is up to us, the enlightened American citizenry, to elect a
government with a mandate to lead the world in a great awakening that
will put an end to this madness before it's too late. That is the
greatest honor we can pay to the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, who
became guinea pigs for an American experiment with atomic weapons.



Anyone who is naïve enough to believe that race had nothing to do with
it, that it made no difference that the Japanese were Asians rather
than Europeans, should hurry up and read Dr. Gerald Horne's recent
book on the war for control of the Pacific, "Race War!"

One of our finest contemporary historians, Professor Horne presents
voluminous evidence regarding the terror white Americans felt at the
rising power of colored Japan in a world dominated by nations
committed to "white supremacy,

" especially the Anglo-Saxons of Briton and the United States.
Consulting official government documents, newspaper clippings, and
personal papers of important government officials, Horne recounts
white America's hysteria at signs of a growing diplomatic relationship
between Japan and Mexico - a country the Anglos had repeatedly bullied
and robbed.

In numerous statements white Americans made it abundantly clear that
they would not tolerate a military alliance between these two
"colored" nations. And Dr. Horne meticulously documents the fact that
the Japanese certainly saw their participation in World War II as a
struggle against white supremacy!



Whatever the official lip service given to racial equality in
America's anti-Nazi propaganda - which led many white Americans, but
by no means all, to root for Joe Louis against the German boxer Max
Schmeling - the real U.S. position on the question of racial equality
between the world's races is summed up in a candid quote from
President Harry Truman. "I think one man is as good as another so long
as he is honest and decent and not a ****** or a Chinaman.

Uncle Will.does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race
prejudice I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion that Negroes ought
to be in Africa, yellow men in Asia, and white men in Europe and
America." Remember, this is the man who gave the command to drop the
atomic bomb on Japan!

And even he was forced to restrain the rage of General Douglass
McArthur, who wanted to use nuclear weapons against China when the war
in Korea was going badly several years later.

Hear! Hear! mon frere!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thus there is no more ridiculous spectacle in the world
today than the hysterical cries of the Bush Administration railing
against Iran or North Korea who may be building a bomb or two, while
the American nuclear arsenal houses thousands of nuclear bombs, and
our military has the ability to strike targets with precision anywhere
in the world within minutes.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And they have demonstrated their willingness to use them against
non-Europeans. This awesome power was designed to blackmail the rest
of the world into submission to America's will, particularly the
"Third World."

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In a typical example of white American hubris, the architects of this
policy of nuclear intimidation never imagined that nuclear technology
would spread to other nations in the world and come back to haunt us.
But it has. And what's more those of us who live in major cities must
now worry about somebody planting one of those fifteen suitcase nukes
that are missing from the Russian arsenal.



Those who built and deployed atomic weapons against Japan, along with
their apologists, have always argued that this was a noble act, a
necessity of war. While an argument can certainly be made for building
the bomb, mainly the warnings from émigré' European scientists like
Dr. Einstein that the Germans were on the way to discovering the
secrets of atomic fission, the justification for bombing Japan is
another matter entirely.

As far as I am concerned the slightest possibility that Adolph
Hitler could have acquired the bomb first was reason enough for
Americans to build the bomb. But given what we now know about what
America and her allies knew regarding the condition of Japan in 1945,
and the willingness of America's Russian allies to invade Japan with
her armies stationed in China, the evidence clearly shows that
Truman's alibi that he dropped the bomb on Japan in order to spare the
lives of American soldiers is a self-serving lie!



There is compelling evidence that Truman's closest advisors had ruled
out other avenues to peace, against the advice of more level headed
professional analysts in the military and State Department. The
breadth and gravitas of this evidence is beyond the scope of this
commentary, but a search on Google.com will reveal a wealth of
information on this subject, providing compelling evidence of Truman's
criminal folly.

But now, in some strange cosmic turn of fate, the threat of nuclear
annihilation hangs over our heads, and we've got a pugnacious
ignoramus in the White House who is trying to destroy the few
safeguards that presently exist against accidental nuclear holocaust,
by unilaterally abrogating the ABM Treaty and openly proposing to
manufacture tactical nuclear bombs for use in risky military conflicts
where American forces could suffer great casualties - such as a land
war in Asia.

But isn't that the same rationale Truman used to drop atomic bombs on
the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? No wonder the North Koreans are
nervous and feel that they must build their own nuclear arsenal as
deterrence to American aggression.



Furthermore Condoleezza Rice, AKA "Madam Hawk," and the neo-con gang's
insistence that American scientists be permitted to inspect top secret
nuclear weapons sites in Russia, while denying reciprocal privileges
to the Russian scientists on American soil, insults Russian national
pride and is certain to result in a less stable nuclear environment.

That's why we must restrain these devils who would burn up the world
in their quest for global domination. We must rise up and stop the
madness! Mao Tse Tung, who led the great revolution that transformed
China, the world's most populous nation, from a backward semi-feudal
society to a modern world power, once called the atomic bomb a "Paper
Tiger," and predicted: "The atomic bomb will not destroy mankind,
mankind will destroy the Atomic bomb.

" With atomic bombs proliferating everywhere the odds seem stacked
against us, yet we must struggle to make sure Chairman Mao was right.
Nothing less than the fate of the earth hangs on the outcome.

10 Stars Excellent, factual article **********

White people must act now to stop the madness of their ethnic group,
or the entire planet including them will perish.

Just one of those things that make you go hummmm.


Who deserves to be impeached and imprisoned the most?
A president receiving face from an adult willing female?

Or a president who lies to over four people
worldwide and then orders the attack and destruction
of hundreds of thousands of innocents, 1,600 American
GI'S killed and over 25,000 permanently disfigured?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nature...no_color_lines

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/grou...Young_Females/




Pete KE9OA May 8th 05 11:23 PM

I blocked David with all of his nonsense, and it looks as if he has changed
form.

Pete

"Frank White" wrote in message
...
In article
,
lid says...

In article ,
C. B. wrote:

FYI

Defusing a Nuclear Nightmare PDF
Playthell Benjamin


Snip

Stupidly flawed thinking.

For posting this off topic screed I sentence you to watch" Dr.
Strangelove or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb" at
least 10 times.


But 'Doc Strangelove' is an ENTERTAINING movie and watching
it wouldn't be a punishment!

Besides, his thinking is so screwed up, he might regard it as
a documentary...

"Hands of Manos". We'll put him in an orbital space station
with several crazy robots and show him that and other stupid
movies until he grows some SMARTS.

Shouldn't take more than a couple of centuries.

Shortwave

FW




Namikis May 9th 05 05:59 AM

ooops - I actually am a Roman Catholic. My bad.

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Namikis" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in
message

gy.com.. .
In article , C. B.
wrote:

FYI

Defusing a Nuclear Nightmare PDF Playthell Benjamin

Snip

Stupidly flawed thinking.

For posting this off topic screed I sentence you to watch" Dr.
Strangelove or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb" at
least 10 times.

How is watching Doc Strangelove punishment? - your thinking is
flawed as far as sentencing is concerned. Make him watch Rocky V or
Conan the Barbarian or any movie with Ben Afleck and J Lo in it -
that is real punishment. Doctor Strangelove is a comedic
masterpiece. Anyone remember the CRM114 discriminator the B52s had
attached to the SSB radios in that movie?


It is not just an act of punishment. It is penance for posting off
topic. Penance is an act of devotion and I always looked at it as
correcting or making up for a wrong. In other words a constructive act
instead of just an act of suffering. I can see you were not brought up
Roman Catholic.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California




John Smith July 28th 05 09:33 PM

.... answer is always the same, as long as the freedoms, natural resources,
food, housing, education, medical care, etc is shared well within the
population, the children all get along well...

.... disrupt this and there is strife and it just becomes how long before those
hoarding the wealth and power will be dealt with ...

John

aezael wrote in message ...
On Sat, 07 May 2005 22:02:03 -0500, C. B.
wrote:

FYI

Defusing a Nuclear Nightmare PDF
Playthell Benjamin

After the successful exploding of the first atomic bomb in the desert
of New Mexico - where scientists working on the super secret
"Manhattan Project" based at the Los Alamos weapons laboratory had
produced this technological monster - Dr. Albert Einstein, the world's
most distinguished scientist, observed that everything in the world
had changed.except the character of human beings.



This was a chilling revelation, because it meant that the same flawed,
ego-driven homo sapiens that had waged countless wars inspired by
greed, land hunger and the will to power, now had the power to destroy
the world. Which means that a psychology which was sufficient for
human survival when we were fighting with bows and arrows, or muskets
and cannons, or even tanks, airplanes, and battleships, would no
longer be sufficient to insure the survival of human beings in the
atomic age.

Von Clauswitz's legendary laws of war no longer applied, because he
saw war as an extension of politics, and politics is the art of the
possible. Now the supreme enemy became war itself, because a war
between nuclear powers will yield no winners. Thus victory in atomic
warfare is impossible!


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The decision of the US government to use atomic weapons against the
Japanese in 1945, the greatest assault on a civilian population in
history - 9/11 pales in comparison.

- It was a deadly manifestation of the arrogance of American power,
and speaks poignantly to Dr. Einstein's warning 60 years ago. Dropping
the Atomic bomb on Japan set off a nuclear arms race that is cause for
great anxiety all over the world today.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Most Americans however are in denial, and I believe this is because
the consequences of nuclear war are so frightening that they just tune
it out and simply refuse to inform themselves on the subject.

This willful ignorance explains why the peoples who reside in the
nations that stockpile atomic weapons don't take to the streets
en-masse in protracted demonstrations demanding that their governments
take the lead in banning the bomb.

And there is no population that bears a greater responsibility for
petitioning their government to lead the world in nuclear disarmament
than the citizens of the United States!



This historical responsibility falls squarely upon us because the
nuclear menace that imperils the fate of the earth is wholly an
American invention - as was germ warfare when American scientists
first weaponized germs at Fort Dietrich. I feel the responsibility to
fight for nuclear disarmament acutely, because I once served in the
Strategic Air Command, which was, at the time, America's premiere
nuclear strike force.

Therefore I have a thorough knowledge of the unimaginable horrors
nuclear war will bring. Assigned to Combat Defense and given a "Top
Secret" security clearance, I became a member of the force whose
mission was the physical defense of the Strategic Air command base to
which I was stationed.



Always heavily armed, our duties consisted of physically securing the
Atomic weapons stockpiles from which we armed the bombers, the bombers
themselves, and manning and securing the complex electronic systems in
Central Security Control, the command center from which a world-wide
alert to America's nuclear forces could originate or be received.

The Mission of our base, which was located on the "DEW," or Distance
Early Warning Line," up on the Canadian Border, was the nuclear
annihilation of the Soviet Union. Then we were using manned bombers
to deliver the payload, today the world can be turned into burned out
radio active pile of rubble within half an hour from now.

So unlike those who have buried their heads in the sand, I know too
much to hide. I am ever aware of the disasters that lurk on the
nuclear horizon.



I have no doubt that the automatons who are trained to push the
buttons will launch on command; I know there was a time when I would
have. They have been well trained to perform this doom's day task. I
was in the Strategic Air Command when it was a led by General Curtis
LeMay, who served as a model for the crackpot "General Jack T.
Ripper," who starts a nuclear war in the frightening classic movie
"Dr. Strangelove:

How I Came to Love the Bomb." It was a paranoid existence, because
they had us thinking that Russian spies and saboteurs were everywhere.
I was young and dumb, had grown up with atomic bomb drills, was highly
patriotic the way southerners tend to be, and thus I didn't question
anything they told us - at first!

By convincing us that we were in imminent danger of being overrun by
the evil communists - aided by a poster of a menacing looking Russian
leader, Nikita Khrushchev, pointing his finger straight at you from
all angles, with the caption "We will bury you!" - our officers
convincingly indoctrinated us into the belief that a nuclear attack on
the Soviet Union was a reasonable thing to contemplate.



But once I began to attend classes about the destructive power of the
nuclear payloads carried by the B-52 bombers on the base - which the
instructors proudly pointed out made the unspeakably horrible bombs
our nation dropped on Japan look like mere firecrackers - I began to
strongly suspect that the whole thing was madness, especially since
they had previously shown us official Strategic Air Command films of
the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Over four decades later I still think it's madness! I also think
that it is up to us, the enlightened American citizenry, to elect a
government with a mandate to lead the world in a great awakening that
will put an end to this madness before it's too late. That is the
greatest honor we can pay to the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, who
became guinea pigs for an American experiment with atomic weapons.



Anyone who is naïve enough to believe that race had nothing to do with
it, that it made no difference that the Japanese were Asians rather
than Europeans, should hurry up and read Dr. Gerald Horne's recent
book on the war for control of the Pacific, "Race War!"

One of our finest contemporary historians, Professor Horne presents
voluminous evidence regarding the terror white Americans felt at the
rising power of colored Japan in a world dominated by nations
committed to "white supremacy,

" especially the Anglo-Saxons of Briton and the United States.
Consulting official government documents, newspaper clippings, and
personal papers of important government officials, Horne recounts
white America's hysteria at signs of a growing diplomatic relationship
between Japan and Mexico - a country the Anglos had repeatedly bullied
and robbed.

In numerous statements white Americans made it abundantly clear that
they would not tolerate a military alliance between these two
"colored" nations. And Dr. Horne meticulously documents the fact that
the Japanese certainly saw their participation in World War II as a
struggle against white supremacy!



Whatever the official lip service given to racial equality in
America's anti-Nazi propaganda - which led many white Americans, but
by no means all, to root for Joe Louis against the German boxer Max
Schmeling - the real U.S. position on the question of racial equality
between the world's races is summed up in a candid quote from
President Harry Truman. "I think one man is as good as another so long
as he is honest and decent and not a ****** or a Chinaman.

Uncle Will.does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race
prejudice I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion that Negroes ought
to be in Africa, yellow men in Asia, and white men in Europe and
America." Remember, this is the man who gave the command to drop the
atomic bomb on Japan!

And even he was forced to restrain the rage of General Douglass
McArthur, who wanted to use nuclear weapons against China when the war
in Korea was going badly several years later.

Hear! Hear! mon frere!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thus there is no more ridiculous spectacle in the world
today than the hysterical cries of the Bush Administration railing
against Iran or North Korea who may be building a bomb or two, while
the American nuclear arsenal houses thousands of nuclear bombs, and
our military has the ability to strike targets with precision anywhere
in the world within minutes.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And they have demonstrated their willingness to use them against
non-Europeans. This awesome power was designed to blackmail the rest
of the world into submission to America's will, particularly the
"Third World."

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In a typical example of white American hubris, the architects of this
policy of nuclear intimidation never imagined that nuclear technology
would spread to other nations in the world and come back to haunt us.
But it has. And what's more those of us who live in major cities must
now worry about somebody planting one of those fifteen suitcase nukes
that are missing from the Russian arsenal.



Those who built and deployed atomic weapons against Japan, along with
their apologists, have always argued that this was a noble act, a
necessity of war. While an argument can certainly be made for building
the bomb, mainly the warnings from émigré' European scientists like
Dr. Einstein that the Germans were on the way to discovering the
secrets of atomic fission, the justification for bombing Japan is
another matter entirely.

As far as I am concerned the slightest possibility that Adolph
Hitler could have acquired the bomb first was reason enough for
Americans to build the bomb. But given what we now know about what
America and her allies knew regarding the condition of Japan in 1945,
and the willingness of America's Russian allies to invade Japan with
her armies stationed in China, the evidence clearly shows that
Truman's alibi that he dropped the bomb on Japan in order to spare the
lives of American soldiers is a self-serving lie!



There is compelling evidence that Truman's closest advisors had ruled
out other avenues to peace, against the advice of more level headed
professional analysts in the military and State Department. The
breadth and gravitas of this evidence is beyond the scope of this
commentary, but a search on Google.com will reveal a wealth of
information on this subject, providing compelling evidence of Truman's
criminal folly.

But now, in some strange cosmic turn of fate, the threat of nuclear
annihilation hangs over our heads, and we've got a pugnacious
ignoramus in the White House who is trying to destroy the few
safeguards that presently exist against accidental nuclear holocaust,
by unilaterally abrogating the ABM Treaty and openly proposing to
manufacture tactical nuclear bombs for use in risky military conflicts
where American forces could suffer great casualties - such as a land
war in Asia.

But isn't that the same rationale Truman used to drop atomic bombs on
the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? No wonder the North Koreans are
nervous and feel that they must build their own nuclear arsenal as
deterrence to American aggression.



Furthermore Condoleezza Rice, AKA "Madam Hawk," and the neo-con gang's
insistence that American scientists be permitted to inspect top secret
nuclear weapons sites in Russia, while denying reciprocal privileges
to the Russian scientists on American soil, insults Russian national
pride and is certain to result in a less stable nuclear environment.

That's why we must restrain these devils who would burn up the world
in their quest for global domination. We must rise up and stop the
madness! Mao Tse Tung, who led the great revolution that transformed
China, the world's most populous nation, from a backward semi-feudal
society to a modern world power, once called the atomic bomb a "Paper
Tiger," and predicted: "The atomic bomb will not destroy mankind,
mankind will destroy the Atomic bomb.

" With atomic bombs proliferating everywhere the odds seem stacked
against us, yet we must struggle to make sure Chairman Mao was right.
Nothing less than the fate of the earth hangs on the outcome.

10 Stars Excellent, factual article **********

White people must act now to stop the madness of their ethnic group,
or the entire planet including them will perish.

Just one of those things that make you go hummmm.


Who deserves to be impeached and imprisoned the most?
A president receiving face from an adult willing female?

Or a president who lies to over four people
worldwide and then orders the attack and destruction
of hundreds of thousands of innocents, 1,600 American
GI'S killed and over 25,000 permanently disfigured?



You do know that what you have said constuites a act of treason ?




aezael July 28th 05 09:38 PM

On Sat, 07 May 2005 22:02:03 -0500, C. B.
wrote:

FYI

Defusing a Nuclear Nightmare PDF
Playthell Benjamin

After the successful exploding of the first atomic bomb in the desert
of New Mexico - where scientists working on the super secret
“Manhattan Project” based at the Los Alamos weapons laboratory had
produced this technological monster - Dr. Albert Einstein, the world’s
most distinguished scientist, observed that everything in the world
had changed…except the character of human beings.



This was a chilling revelation, because it meant that the same flawed,
ego-driven homo sapiens that had waged countless wars inspired by
greed, land hunger and the will to power, now had the power to destroy
the world. Which means that a psychology which was sufficient for
human survival when we were fighting with bows and arrows, or muskets
and cannons, or even tanks, airplanes, and battleships, would no
longer be sufficient to insure the survival of human beings in the
atomic age.

Von Clauswitz’s legendary laws of war no longer applied, because he
saw war as an extension of politics, and politics is the art of the
possible. Now the supreme enemy became war itself, because a war
between nuclear powers will yield no winners. Thus victory in atomic
warfare is impossible!


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The decision of the US government to use atomic weapons against the
Japanese in 1945, the greatest assault on a civilian population in
history – 9/11 pales in comparison.

– It was a deadly manifestation of the arrogance of American power,
and speaks poignantly to Dr. Einstein’s warning 60 years ago. Dropping
the Atomic bomb on Japan set off a nuclear arms race that is cause for
great anxiety all over the world today.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Most Americans however are in denial, and I believe this is because
the consequences of nuclear war are so frightening that they just tune
it out and simply refuse to inform themselves on the subject.

This willful ignorance explains why the peoples who reside in the
nations that stockpile atomic weapons don’t take to the streets
en-masse in protracted demonstrations demanding that their governments
take the lead in banning the bomb.

And there is no population that bears a greater responsibility for
petitioning their government to lead the world in nuclear disarmament
than the citizens of the United States!



This historical responsibility falls squarely upon us because the
nuclear menace that imperils the fate of the earth is wholly an
American invention – as was germ warfare when American scientists
first weaponized germs at Fort Dietrich. I feel the responsibility to
fight for nuclear disarmament acutely, because I once served in the
Strategic Air Command, which was, at the time, America’s premiere
nuclear strike force.

Therefore I have a thorough knowledge of the unimaginable horrors
nuclear war will bring. Assigned to Combat Defense and given a “Top
Secret” security clearance, I became a member of the force whose
mission was the physical defense of the Strategic Air command base to
which I was stationed.



Always heavily armed, our duties consisted of physically securing the
Atomic weapons stockpiles from which we armed the bombers, the bombers
themselves, and manning and securing the complex electronic systems in
Central Security Control, the command center from which a world-wide
alert to America’s nuclear forces could originate or be received.

The Mission of our base, which was located on the “DEW,” or Distance
Early Warning Line,” up on the Canadian Border, was the nuclear
annihilation of the Soviet Union. Then we were using manned bombers
to deliver the payload, today the world can be turned into burned out
radio active pile of rubble within half an hour from now.

So unlike those who have buried their heads in the sand, I know too
much to hide. I am ever aware of the disasters that lurk on the
nuclear horizon.



I have no doubt that the automatons who are trained to push the
buttons will launch on command; I know there was a time when I would
have. They have been well trained to perform this doom’s day task. I
was in the Strategic Air Command when it was a led by General Curtis
LeMay, who served as a model for the crackpot “General Jack T.
Ripper,” who starts a nuclear war in the frightening classic movie
“Dr. Strangelove:

How I Came to Love the Bomb.” It was a paranoid existence, because
they had us thinking that Russian spies and saboteurs were everywhere.
I was young and dumb, had grown up with atomic bomb drills, was highly
patriotic the way southerners tend to be, and thus I didn’t question
anything they told us – at first!

By convincing us that we were in imminent danger of being overrun by
the evil communists – aided by a poster of a menacing looking Russian
leader, Nikita Khrushchev, pointing his finger straight at you from
all angles, with the caption “We will bury you!” – our officers
convincingly indoctrinated us into the belief that a nuclear attack on
the Soviet Union was a reasonable thing to contemplate.



But once I began to attend classes about the destructive power of the
nuclear payloads carried by the B-52 bombers on the base – which the
instructors proudly pointed out made the unspeakably horrible bombs
our nation dropped on Japan look like mere firecrackers – I began to
strongly suspect that the whole thing was madness, especially since
they had previously shown us official Strategic Air Command films of
the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Over four decades later I still think it’s madness! I also think
that it is up to us, the enlightened American citizenry, to elect a
government with a mandate to lead the world in a great awakening that
will put an end to this madness before it’s too late. That is the
greatest honor we can pay to the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, who
became guinea pigs for an American experiment with atomic weapons.



Anyone who is naïve enough to believe that race had nothing to do with
it, that it made no difference that the Japanese were Asians rather
than Europeans, should hurry up and read Dr. Gerald Horne’s recent
book on the war for control of the Pacific, “Race War!”

One of our finest contemporary historians, Professor Horne presents
voluminous evidence regarding the terror white Americans felt at the
rising power of colored Japan in a world dominated by nations
committed to “white supremacy,

” especially the Anglo-Saxons of Briton and the United States.
Consulting official government documents, newspaper clippings, and
personal papers of important government officials, Horne recounts
white America’s hysteria at signs of a growing diplomatic relationship
between Japan and Mexico – a country the Anglos had repeatedly bullied
and robbed.

In numerous statements white Americans made it abundantly clear that
they would not tolerate a military alliance between these two
“colored” nations. And Dr. Horne meticulously documents the fact that
the Japanese certainly saw their participation in World War II as a
struggle against white supremacy!



Whatever the official lip service given to racial equality in
America’s anti-Nazi propaganda – which led many white Americans, but
by no means all, to root for Joe Louis against the German boxer Max
Schmeling - the real U.S. position on the question of racial equality
between the world’s races is summed up in a candid quote from
President Harry Truman. “I think one man is as good as another so long
as he is honest and decent and not a ****** or a Chinaman.

Uncle Will…does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race
prejudice I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion that Negroes ought
to be in Africa, yellow men in Asia, and white men in Europe and
America.” Remember, this is the man who gave the command to drop the
atomic bomb on Japan!

And even he was forced to restrain the rage of General Douglass
McArthur, who wanted to use nuclear weapons against China when the war
in Korea was going badly several years later.

Hear! Hear! mon frere!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thus there is no more ridiculous spectacle in the world
today than the hysterical cries of the Bush Administration railing
against Iran or North Korea who may be building a bomb or two, while
the American nuclear arsenal houses thousands of nuclear bombs, and
our military has the ability to strike targets with precision anywhere
in the world within minutes.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And they have demonstrated their willingness to use them against
non-Europeans. This awesome power was designed to blackmail the rest
of the world into submission to America’s will, particularly the
“Third World.”

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In a typical example of white American hubris, the architects of this
policy of nuclear intimidation never imagined that nuclear technology
would spread to other nations in the world and come back to haunt us.
But it has. And what’s more those of us who live in major cities must
now worry about somebody planting one of those fifteen suitcase nukes
that are missing from the Russian arsenal.



Those who built and deployed atomic weapons against Japan, along with
their apologists, have always argued that this was a noble act, a
necessity of war. While an argument can certainly be made for building
the bomb, mainly the warnings from émigré’ European scientists like
Dr. Einstein that the Germans were on the way to discovering the
secrets of atomic fission, the justification for bombing Japan is
another matter entirely.

As far as I am concerned the slightest possibility that Adolph
Hitler could have acquired the bomb first was reason enough for
Americans to build the bomb. But given what we now know about what
America and her allies knew regarding the condition of Japan in 1945,
and the willingness of America’s Russian allies to invade Japan with
her armies stationed in China, the evidence clearly shows that
Truman’s alibi that he dropped the bomb on Japan in order to spare the
lives of American soldiers is a self-serving lie!



There is compelling evidence that Truman’s closest advisors had ruled
out other avenues to peace, against the advice of more level headed
professional analysts in the military and State Department. The
breadth and gravitas of this evidence is beyond the scope of this
commentary, but a search on Google.com will reveal a wealth of
information on this subject, providing compelling evidence of Truman’s
criminal folly.

But now, in some strange cosmic turn of fate, the threat of nuclear
annihilation hangs over our heads, and we’ve got a pugnacious
ignoramus in the White House who is trying to destroy the few
safeguards that presently exist against accidental nuclear holocaust,
by unilaterally abrogating the ABM Treaty and openly proposing to
manufacture tactical nuclear bombs for use in risky military conflicts
where American forces could suffer great casualties – such as a land
war in Asia.

But isn’t that the same rationale Truman used to drop atomic bombs on
the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? No wonder the North Koreans are
nervous and feel that they must build their own nuclear arsenal as
deterrence to American aggression.



Furthermore Condoleezza Rice, AKA “Madam Hawk,” and the neo-con gang’s
insistence that American scientists be permitted to inspect top secret
nuclear weapons sites in Russia, while denying reciprocal privileges
to the Russian scientists on American soil, insults Russian national
pride and is certain to result in a less stable nuclear environment.

That’s why we must restrain these devils who would burn up the world
in their quest for global domination. We must rise up and stop the
madness! Mao Tse Tung, who led the great revolution that transformed
China, the world’s most populous nation, from a backward semi-feudal
society to a modern world power, once called the atomic bomb a “Paper
Tiger,” and predicted: “The atomic bomb will not destroy mankind,
mankind will destroy the Atomic bomb.

” With atomic bombs proliferating everywhere the odds seem stacked
against us, yet we must struggle to make sure Chairman Mao was right.
Nothing less than the fate of the earth hangs on the outcome.

10 Stars Excellent, factual article **********

White people must act now to stop the madness of their ethnic group,
or the entire planet including them will perish.

Just one of those things that make you go hummmm.


Who deserves to be impeached and imprisoned the most?
A president receiving face from an adult willing female?

Or a president who lies to over four people
worldwide and then orders the attack and destruction
of hundreds of thousands of innocents, 1,600 American
GI'S killed and over 25,000 permanently disfigured?



You do know that what you have said constuites a act of treason ?

Eric F. Richards July 29th 05 03:33 PM

Spare me.

Ignorant? yes.

Propogandistic? yes.

Treasonous? not even close.

LEARN WHAT WORDS MEAN before you use them!

Also, learn about U.S. history. It is EXTREMELY hard to charge
someone with treason -- that vas VERY intentional by the founding
fathers.

Finally, try this: Disennt is not treason. Dissent is not treason.
Dissent is not treason. Tattoo it on the inside of your eyelids until
any moment not thinking -- which for you should be nearly all the time
-- is occupied by that phrase.

To the writer of that excrement:

Clearly you haven't heard of the firebombing of Tokyo, which was more
destructive to lives than both atomic detonations together. You
haven't heard of the bombing of Koln and Dresden.

For that matter, you haven't heard of the Rape of Nanking, Serbia,
Rawanda and Somalia. You, sir and/or madam, need a ****ing clue.
Unless, of course, you LIKE your ignorance, and like waving it around
in public...

Y'all are a collection of stupid, ideological ****s. Get lives, or
stop wasting ours. Please.


aezael wrote:

On Sat, 07 May 2005 22:02:03 -0500, C. B.
wrote:

FYI

Defusing a Nuclear Nightmare PDF
Playthell Benjamin

After the successful exploding of the first atomic bomb in the desert
of New Mexico - where scientists working on the super secret
“Manhattan Project” based at the Los Alamos weapons laboratory had
produced this technological monster - Dr. Albert Einstein, the world’s
most distinguished scientist, observed that everything in the world
had changed…except the character of human beings.



This was a chilling revelation, because it meant that the same flawed,
ego-driven homo sapiens that had waged countless wars inspired by
greed, land hunger and the will to power, now had the power to destroy
the world. Which means that a psychology which was sufficient for
human survival when we were fighting with bows and arrows, or muskets
and cannons, or even tanks, airplanes, and battleships, would no
longer be sufficient to insure the survival of human beings in the
atomic age.

Von Clauswitz’s legendary laws of war no longer applied, because he
saw war as an extension of politics, and politics is the art of the
possible. Now the supreme enemy became war itself, because a war
between nuclear powers will yield no winners. Thus victory in atomic
warfare is impossible!


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The decision of the US government to use atomic weapons against the
Japanese in 1945, the greatest assault on a civilian population in
history – 9/11 pales in comparison.

– It was a deadly manifestation of the arrogance of American power,
and speaks poignantly to Dr. Einstein’s warning 60 years ago. Dropping
the Atomic bomb on Japan set off a nuclear arms race that is cause for
great anxiety all over the world today.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Most Americans however are in denial, and I believe this is because
the consequences of nuclear war are so frightening that they just tune
it out and simply refuse to inform themselves on the subject.

This willful ignorance explains why the peoples who reside in the
nations that stockpile atomic weapons don’t take to the streets
en-masse in protracted demonstrations demanding that their governments
take the lead in banning the bomb.

And there is no population that bears a greater responsibility for
petitioning their government to lead the world in nuclear disarmament
than the citizens of the United States!



This historical responsibility falls squarely upon us because the
nuclear menace that imperils the fate of the earth is wholly an
American invention – as was germ warfare when American scientists
first weaponized germs at Fort Dietrich. I feel the responsibility to
fight for nuclear disarmament acutely, because I once served in the
Strategic Air Command, which was, at the time, America’s premiere
nuclear strike force.

Therefore I have a thorough knowledge of the unimaginable horrors
nuclear war will bring. Assigned to Combat Defense and given a “Top
Secret” security clearance, I became a member of the force whose
mission was the physical defense of the Strategic Air command base to
which I was stationed.



Always heavily armed, our duties consisted of physically securing the
Atomic weapons stockpiles from which we armed the bombers, the bombers
themselves, and manning and securing the complex electronic systems in
Central Security Control, the command center from which a world-wide
alert to America’s nuclear forces could originate or be received.

The Mission of our base, which was located on the “DEW,” or Distance
Early Warning Line,” up on the Canadian Border, was the nuclear
annihilation of the Soviet Union. Then we were using manned bombers
to deliver the payload, today the world can be turned into burned out
radio active pile of rubble within half an hour from now.

So unlike those who have buried their heads in the sand, I know too
much to hide. I am ever aware of the disasters that lurk on the
nuclear horizon.



I have no doubt that the automatons who are trained to push the
buttons will launch on command; I know there was a time when I would
have. They have been well trained to perform this doom’s day task. I
was in the Strategic Air Command when it was a led by General Curtis
LeMay, who served as a model for the crackpot “General Jack T.
Ripper,” who starts a nuclear war in the frightening classic movie
“Dr. Strangelove:

How I Came to Love the Bomb.” It was a paranoid existence, because
they had us thinking that Russian spies and saboteurs were everywhere.
I was young and dumb, had grown up with atomic bomb drills, was highly
patriotic the way southerners tend to be, and thus I didn’t question
anything they told us – at first!

By convincing us that we were in imminent danger of being overrun by
the evil communists – aided by a poster of a menacing looking Russian
leader, Nikita Khrushchev, pointing his finger straight at you from
all angles, with the caption “We will bury you!” – our officers
convincingly indoctrinated us into the belief that a nuclear attack on
the Soviet Union was a reasonable thing to contemplate.



But once I began to attend classes about the destructive power of the
nuclear payloads carried by the B-52 bombers on the base – which the
instructors proudly pointed out made the unspeakably horrible bombs
our nation dropped on Japan look like mere firecrackers – I began to
strongly suspect that the whole thing was madness, especially since
they had previously shown us official Strategic Air Command films of
the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Over four decades later I still think it’s madness! I also think
that it is up to us, the enlightened American citizenry, to elect a
government with a mandate to lead the world in a great awakening that
will put an end to this madness before it’s too late. That is the
greatest honor we can pay to the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, who
became guinea pigs for an American experiment with atomic weapons.



Anyone who is naïve enough to believe that race had nothing to do with
it, that it made no difference that the Japanese were Asians rather
than Europeans, should hurry up and read Dr. Gerald Horne’s recent
book on the war for control of the Pacific, “Race War!”

One of our finest contemporary historians, Professor Horne presents
voluminous evidence regarding the terror white Americans felt at the
rising power of colored Japan in a world dominated by nations
committed to “white supremacy,

” especially the Anglo-Saxons of Briton and the United States.
Consulting official government documents, newspaper clippings, and
personal papers of important government officials, Horne recounts
white America’s hysteria at signs of a growing diplomatic relationship
between Japan and Mexico – a country the Anglos had repeatedly bullied
and robbed.

In numerous statements white Americans made it abundantly clear that
they would not tolerate a military alliance between these two
“colored” nations. And Dr. Horne meticulously documents the fact that
the Japanese certainly saw their participation in World War II as a
struggle against white supremacy!



Whatever the official lip service given to racial equality in
America’s anti-Nazi propaganda – which led many white Americans, but
by no means all, to root for Joe Louis against the German boxer Max
Schmeling - the real U.S. position on the question of racial equality
between the world’s races is summed up in a candid quote from
President Harry Truman. “I think one man is as good as another so long
as he is honest and decent and not a ****** or a Chinaman.

Uncle Will…does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race
prejudice I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion that Negroes ought
to be in Africa, yellow men in Asia, and white men in Europe and
America.” Remember, this is the man who gave the command to drop the
atomic bomb on Japan!

And even he was forced to restrain the rage of General Douglass
McArthur, who wanted to use nuclear weapons against China when the war
in Korea was going badly several years later.

Hear! Hear! mon frere!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thus there is no more ridiculous spectacle in the world
today than the hysterical cries of the Bush Administration railing
against Iran or North Korea who may be building a bomb or two, while
the American nuclear arsenal houses thousands of nuclear bombs, and
our military has the ability to strike targets with precision anywhere
in the world within minutes.
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And they have demonstrated their willingness to use them against
non-Europeans. This awesome power was designed to blackmail the rest
of the world into submission to America’s will, particularly the
“Third World.”

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In a typical example of white American hubris, the architects of this
policy of nuclear intimidation never imagined that nuclear technology
would spread to other nations in the world and come back to haunt us.
But it has. And what’s more those of us who live in major cities must
now worry about somebody planting one of those fifteen suitcase nukes
that are missing from the Russian arsenal.



Those who built and deployed atomic weapons against Japan, along with
their apologists, have always argued that this was a noble act, a
necessity of war. While an argument can certainly be made for building
the bomb, mainly the warnings from émigré’ European scientists like
Dr. Einstein that the Germans were on the way to discovering the
secrets of atomic fission, the justification for bombing Japan is
another matter entirely.

As far as I am concerned the slightest possibility that Adolph
Hitler could have acquired the bomb first was reason enough for
Americans to build the bomb. But given what we now know about what
America and her allies knew regarding the condition of Japan in 1945,
and the willingness of America’s Russian allies to invade Japan with
her armies stationed in China, the evidence clearly shows that
Truman’s alibi that he dropped the bomb on Japan in order to spare the
lives of American soldiers is a self-serving lie!



There is compelling evidence that Truman’s closest advisors had ruled
out other avenues to peace, against the advice of more level headed
professional analysts in the military and State Department. The
breadth and gravitas of this evidence is beyond the scope of this
commentary, but a search on Google.com will reveal a wealth of
information on this subject, providing compelling evidence of Truman’s
criminal folly.

But now, in some strange cosmic turn of fate, the threat of nuclear
annihilation hangs over our heads, and we’ve got a pugnacious
ignoramus in the White House who is trying to destroy the few
safeguards that presently exist against accidental nuclear holocaust,
by unilaterally abrogating the ABM Treaty and openly proposing to
manufacture tactical nuclear bombs for use in risky military conflicts
where American forces could suffer great casualties – such as a land
war in Asia.

But isn’t that the same rationale Truman used to drop atomic bombs on
the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? No wonder the North Koreans are
nervous and feel that they must build their own nuclear arsenal as
deterrence to American aggression.



Furthermore Condoleezza Rice, AKA “Madam Hawk,” and the neo-con gang’s
insistence that American scientists be permitted to inspect top secret
nuclear weapons sites in Russia, while denying reciprocal privileges
to the Russian scientists on American soil, insults Russian national
pride and is certain to result in a less stable nuclear environment.

That’s why we must restrain these devils who would burn up the world
in their quest for global domination. We must rise up and stop the
madness! Mao Tse Tung, who led the great revolution that transformed
China, the world’s most populous nation, from a backward semi-feudal
society to a modern world power, once called the atomic bomb a “Paper
Tiger,” and predicted: “The atomic bomb will not destroy mankind,
mankind will destroy the Atomic bomb.

” With atomic bombs proliferating everywhere the odds seem stacked
against us, yet we must struggle to make sure Chairman Mao was right.
Nothing less than the fate of the earth hangs on the outcome.

10 Stars Excellent, factual article **********

White people must act now to stop the madness of their ethnic group,
or the entire planet including them will perish.

Just one of those things that make you go hummmm.


Who deserves to be impeached and imprisoned the most?
A president receiving face from an adult willing female?

Or a president who lies to over four people
worldwide and then orders the attack and destruction
of hundreds of thousands of innocents, 1,600 American
GI'S killed and over 25,000 permanently disfigured?



You do know that what you have said constuites a act of treason ?



[email protected] July 29th 05 04:02 PM

Popular Science magazine has a good article about defusing a nuclear
nightmare,if you care to read it.In fact,I posted something about that
in this news group a few days ago.y'all did read it,didn't y'all? It is
on their online website,look around.I get their snail mail magazines and
Popular Mechanics snail mail magazines too,I have been subscribing to
those two great magazines since 1949.I keep up with stuff.
www.popsci.com
cuhulin


[email protected] July 29th 05 04:05 PM

Nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki actually saved a lot of lives and it
brought an end to World War Two.I have known that since back in the
1940's.
cuhulin


[email protected] July 29th 05 04:46 PM

What Hanoie Jane Fonda did IS an act of Treason.She is a Traitor to the
United States of America.I wish I had been that Veteran who SPIT on
her.(Thank You,Sir.I Salute you) Similarly,I SPIT on her every day.
cuhulin


Rufus Leaking July 29th 05 04:49 PM

Nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki actually saved a lot of lives and it
brought an end to World War Two

but really unneccessary in the end. It's pretty well known that the
Japs were already talking up surrender options with the Russians prior
to the bomb drops. Old Harry Ess wanted more to show them "damn
rooskies" the full power of the USA and Hiroshima and Nagisaki were
good excuses to do so, and then spread the "saving millions of our
boys" lies...


John S. July 29th 05 05:01 PM


Eric F. Richards wrote:
Spare me.

Ignorant? yes.

Propogandistic? yes.

Treasonous? not even close.

LEARN WHAT WORDS MEAN before you use them!

Also, learn about U.S. history. It is EXTREMELY hard to charge
someone with treason -- that vas VERY intentional by the founding
fathers.

Finally, try this: Disennt is not treason. Dissent is not treason.
Dissent is not treason. Tattoo it on the inside of your eyelids until
any moment not thinking -- which for you should be nearly all the time
-- is occupied by that phrase.


Agreed.

To the writer of that excrement:

Clearly you haven't heard of the firebombing of Tokyo, which was more
destructive to lives than both atomic detonations together.

And so what. Both the firebombing and the nuclear explosions were
designed to get the Japanese to stop fighting a losing battle. One
that would have cost our side and theirs huge numbers of killed had a
land invasion taken place.

You haven't heard of the bombing of Koln and Dresden.


I like to think of them as partial payback for London and numerous
concentration camps.


For that matter, you haven't heard of the Rape of Nanking, Serbia,
Rawanda and Somalia. You, sir and/or madam, need a ****ing clue.
Unless, of course, you LIKE your ignorance, and like waving it around
in public...

Y'all are a collection of stupid, ideological ****s. Get lives, or
stop wasting ours. Please.



The author of that piece sees the world in colored and white terms:
The white oppressors against the colored (usually black) oppressed.
I'm gonna guess he is also a proponent of slavery reparations for those
with some link to the formerly oppressed from those with some link to
the former oppressors.


David July 29th 05 05:13 PM

On 29 Jul 2005 08:49:45 -0700, "Rufus Leaking"
wrote:

Nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki actually saved a lot of lives and it
brought an end to World War Two

but really unneccessary in the end. It's pretty well known that the
Japs were already talking up surrender options with the Russians prior
to the bomb drops. Old Harry Ess wanted more to show them "damn
rooskies" the full power of the USA and Hiroshima and Nagisaki were
good excuses to do so, and then spread the "saving millions of our
boys" lies...

The August bombs were for Stalin as much as for Hirohito.


[email protected] July 29th 05 05:43 PM

You are right,Rufus Leaking.Part of it was to show the Russkies
something.Then,the Russkies started working on their own Atomic
bombs.That is what Roswell was about.It was a big giant Balloon
U.S.A.sent up with spy cameras to spy on the Russkies,but the Balloon
crashed near Roswell,New Mexico.
cuhulin


David July 29th 05 05:58 PM

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:43:26 -0500, wrote:

You are right,Rufus Leaking.Part of it was to show the Russkies
something.Then,the Russkies started working on their own Atomic
bombs.That is what Roswell was about.It was a big giant Balloon
U.S.A.sent up with spy cameras to spy on the Russkies,but the Balloon
crashed near Roswell,New Mexico.
cuhulin

Fascinating. How did we get lasers, fiber optics and integrated
circuits out of a crashed spy balloon?


John Barnard July 29th 05 08:59 PM



wrote:

What Hanoie Jane Fonda did IS an act of Treason.She is a Traitor to the
United States of America.I wish I had been that Veteran who SPIT on
her.(Thank You,Sir.I Salute you) Similarly,I SPIT on her every day.
cuhulin


The Beast Master must have renamed Blueberry as Hanoi Jane.

JB


[email protected] July 29th 05 09:08 PM

I feel sorry for you,John Banard and Honus and m II.Really,I do.
cuhulin


John S. July 29th 05 09:19 PM

The Beastmaster and Blueberry....huh????????


[email protected] July 29th 05 09:44 PM

Look,leave my dog out of this.She has never been abused.I challenge
anybody to come to 1304 Denson Ave,Jackson,Mississippi and lets take her
to any veteranarian of your choice.Put your money where your mouth is!
cuhulin


Eric F. Richards July 30th 05 04:13 PM

wrote:

Yep,it sure is tough to get a clue.I am going to the foodstore this
afternoon (right after I check out the Goodwill store,of course,as per
usual) and I will have a real tough decision to make.Should I buy some
Ball Park Franks or Bar S Sausage.Aww heck,might as well buy em
both.Arra,what's a clue?
cuhulin


You wouldn't be able to identify a clue if it got shoved up your ass.


Eric F. Richards July 30th 05 04:16 PM

wrote:

Popular Science magazine has a good article about defusing a nuclear
nightmare,if you care to read it.In fact,I posted something about that
in this news group a few days ago.y'all did read it,didn't y'all? It is
on their online website,look around.I get their snail mail magazines and
Popular Mechanics snail mail magazines too,I have been subscribing to
those two great magazines since 1949.I keep up with stuff.
www.popsci.com
cuhulin


PopSci and PopMech were great magazines for me to read when I was 15.
Although I'll give you credit that they aren't faux news or Al
Franken. But I suggest you find other ways to keep current.

You are sitting in front of a device that allows you to search an
incredible collection of documents, from the DoD to FAS to
GlobalSecurity to peer reviewed journals, and the best you can do is
PopSci?

Christ. No wonder you use webtv. Your brain is overwhelmed by the
complexity of a brick.

--
Eric F. Richards

"The weird part is that I can feel productive even when I'm doomed."
- Dilbert

Eric F. Richards July 30th 05 04:29 PM

wrote:

Nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki actually saved a lot of lives and it
brought an end to World War Two.I have known that since back in the
1940's.
cuhulin


Unless you were there, in the planning rooms for the invasion, with
the appropriate clearances, I doubt you knew that. Then again, I
doubt you knew how to read, so you might have made a fine message boy.

Unlike you, I have actually studied the planned invasion campaign. It
would indeed have saved lives, but not because Rush told you to
believe that.

For those who really think the surrender (which were more a, let's go
back to status quo ante) overtures to the soviets were genuine, or
even possibly going to be honored, perhaps you should study up on what
happened the night the emperor recorded his "surrender." I quote that
because he never said that; rather he said that we would have to
"endure the uneendurable" and that "the war effort has turned
distinctly to our disadvantage."

Anyway, the head of NEC, a couple more execs and techs came over to
record two master discs. The military wasn't ready for that, and they
had planned on assassinating everyone around the emperor and holding
him captive, along with destroying those discs. The discs were hidden
in two different places, and several people protected the knowledge of
where they were with their lives, ranging from personal servants, to
NEC people.

The military guys tore the emperor's palace apart looking for the
discs and didn't find them.

The disks were recorded late at night, by dawn, the coup leaders
realised their efforts were hopeless. The leader committed suicide.
Fittingly, his hara-kiri didn't kill him immediately, he lived for
several hours, undiscovered, impaled on his sword in a chair.

Now, had the invasion happened... well, first off, no fighting soldier
taking place in the first week was expected to survive. None. 100%
casualties. However, the allies expected to eventually push inland.
The goal was to take half of a single Home Island, protect that part,
literally -- not figuratively -- pave it over to make it one huge
airbase, and then continue on from there.

If you think the bombs, or the firebombings which were worse, were
bloodbaths, you hadn't seen anything.

--
Eric F. Richards

"The weird part is that I can feel productive even when I'm doomed."
- Dilbert

Eric F. Richards July 30th 05 04:39 PM

"John S." wrote:


Clearly you haven't heard of the firebombing of Tokyo, which was more
destructive to lives than both atomic detonations together.

And so what. Both the firebombing and the nuclear explosions were
designed to get the Japanese to stop fighting a losing battle. One
that would have cost our side and theirs huge numbers of killed had a
land invasion taken place.


The point, which you seem to have missed, too, is that just because it
used a fission reaction doesn't make it the ultimate evil. Tokyo,
Dresden, Koln were all far more destructive. I'm not talking about
motives here, so spare me. The POINT is, the nukes were destructive
as in what a single bomb could do, but they sure as hell weren't when
compared mission-for-mission.

I would have far rather been 5 miles away from Hiroshima than 5 miles
away from Dresden. I suspect even at that distance I could have been
sucked in by the firestorm.

--
Eric F. Richards

"The weird part is that I can feel productive even when I'm doomed."
- Dilbert

[email protected] July 30th 05 04:41 PM

I don't need to buy any clues.I get my clues from my gut hunches.
cuhulin


[email protected] July 30th 05 04:50 PM

I also own and use a Velocity Micro,ProMagix tower computer I bought for
$1,290.00 from www.velocitymicro.com about a year and a half ago and
I subscribe to Road Runner www.twcjam.com broad band internet access
for my computer.I use my computer for only a very few certain things
which does not include emailing and accessing news groups online.Do you
think I am lieing? Why don't you brought yourself here and see for
yourself in person? Go ahead and knock webtv if you want to,webtv does
some things computers can not do.I have the best of both Worlds,you
little namby pamby sissy girl.
cuhulin



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