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Pete KE9OA May 19th 05 11:50 AM

Never.................a person's word is supposed to be as good as gold. Too
bad that being responsible isn't looked at as a virtue anymore. Years ago, I
used to work in customer service for one of the major banks. Our department
head pounded it into us that when taking care of a customer problem, even if
we didn't have the solution yet, we should call them from time to time to
let them know that we were still working on a solution to their problem.

Pete

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
Pete KE9OA wrote:
I am not talking about losing the auction............I am talking about
the way that she said she would get back to him, and didn't.


So you have *never* in your life told someone you would get back to them
and didn't I suppose.




Pete KE9OA May 19th 05 11:51 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Pete KE9OA wrote:

I am not talking about losing the auction............I am talking about
the
way that she said she would get back to him, and didn't.


At that juncture she had no responsibility to get back to him whatsoever.
He
lost the auction...


She did, because she told him that she would.

In reality, he was trying to alter or defeat the auction process by making
another offer after another individual won the auction.


Agreed.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




Pete KE9OA May 19th 05 11:57 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dxAce wrote:

Pete KE9OA wrote:

I am not talking about losing the auction............I am talking about
the
way that she said she would get back to him, and didn't.


At that juncture she had no responsibility to get back to him whatsoever.
He
lost the auction...

In reality, he was trying to alter or defeat the auction process by
making
another offer after another individual won the auction.


As an addendum, what she was probably trying to say when she said she'd
get back
to him was that she'd get back to him if circumstances with the winning
bidder
change.

Another no-brainer.


If that was the case, that is what she should have said. Nothing that
important; it is to be expected when dealing with such a large section of
society. There used to be a big flea market on Maxwell Street (east side of
Chicago) every weekend.
You could find almost anything there at any given time, from rare items to
outright junk.
I alway tell my friends "Maxwell Street didn't disappear......it just moved
to the Internet". For those of you who saw the Blues Brothers, the scene
where John Lee Hooker was playing the song Boom Boom was on Maxwell Street.

Pete




Pete KE9OA May 19th 05 12:04 PM

Anytime............................there will be another one available in
the future. It looks like this person doen't have much experience selling
on eBay. Also, she could have been intimidated by the feeling of "being
stuck in the middle". Sometimes my wife gets overloaded in that type of
situation.
You wil. find another one.....................many times, people get tired
of some of their radios and simply sell them.
If you pick up a broken one, shout me down and I will help you with the
repair.

Pete

Actually the seller doesn't really sell radios. She sells home made
baskets. That's her thing. She had a AOR 7030 and that Europa for sale for
a friend as a "shack reduction sale" I was willing to take a chance even
though she only had a feedback of 16 on very small sales.

Perhaps you're right and I am better off.

Thanks Pete
Lucky




Lucky May 19th 05 02:32 PM


"Pete KE9OA" wrote in message
...
Anytime............................there will be another one available in
the future. It looks like this person doen't have much experience selling
on eBay. Also, she could have been intimidated by the feeling of "being
stuck in the middle". Sometimes my wife gets overloaded in that type of
situation.
You wil. find another one.....................many times, people get tired
of some of their radios and simply sell them.
If you pick up a broken one, shout me down and I will help you with the
repair.

Pete

Actually the seller doesn't really sell radios. She sells home made
baskets. That's her thing. She had a AOR 7030 and that Europa for sale
for a friend as a "shack reduction sale" I was willing to take a chance
even though she only had a feedback of 16 on very small sales.

Perhaps you're right and I am better off.

Thanks Pete
Lucky




Thank you Pete. I know you're a real standup guy. This world needs more
people like you. You're friendly, kind, logical and willing to go out of
your way for others. Plus you're optimistic and made me feel better. So, if
I can ever do you a favor, you know you have a friend in Florida.

Thank you
Lucky



Cmd Buzz Corey May 19th 05 02:43 PM

Lucky wrote:
Some how I don't like your tune.

Like I really care.



This is not the first time I've seen Japanese and foreign buyers paying
way over what they usually go for and blowing away other buyers.


And the problem with that is? Other than it means you don't get the item.



And when it happens to you, I hope you feel the same way.


I have been outbid a number of times, I figure out what the max I will
pay for an item and that's it, if I get outbid, well that's life and
that's how an auction works. I deal with it an move on, not whine and
cry about how it is somehow unfair.



People from overseas seem to be always willing to buy at very high prices
since most Ebayers won't ship out of the country. So, I always stay away
from worldwide auctions unless it's a little item like Brenda Ann
mentioned. Plus these foreign bidders money is worth more then our US
dollar so they can pay more too.


That's life, deal with it. So what you really want is for no foreing
bidders to bid against you so you can have your item. Auctions don't work
that way in case you haven't noticed.




Yes it does work that way with MOST sellers that won't ship overseas no
matter what. So auctions do work that way in case YOU haven't noticed.


But you want a seller to ban overseas bidders on any item you want just
so you have a better chance at it.



So now you want sellers who have an item you want to disallow any overseas
buyers so you can maybe win the auction.



That's right. It cuts down on the number of bidders so if someone states
they won't address all those other foreign bidders and and say so in the
auction, they should stick to it. There are terms that people should stick
to in life. It shows who and what they are in this world. Sorry if you don't
see that.


In other words, you want it fair only for you. Again, it is the seller's
auction, they can do what they damn well please and they don't have to
consult you. Deal with it.

Again, you don't seem

to understand how an auction works. eBay is world wide and no seller is
obligated to disallow certain bidders just for your benefit. You really
need to get a clue. Maybe the Jap buyer had it shipped to a friend in the
U.S. who then shipped it to him.



This is true. I have no idea if that happened. I think it would have been
nice if the seller told me that since I was a bidder and helped bid her item
up high.

Again, the seller can do whatever

they wish about shipping and they don't have to take your feelings into
consideration at all.


Then on top of that, when I asked the seller about her auction and the
Japanese winner, she thanked me for "alerting" her to this and would get
back to me. I even offered her the winning bidders price so she would not
have lost anything. Not a cent. But she never got back to me with any
sort of explanation.


And she didn't owe you any explaination.



No one has to do anything Cmd. For some reason I like to deal with humans,
not robots.


If you had been dealing with a robot, then the no shipping out of the US
would have stuck, you are dealing with humans that can and have the
right to change their mind and make their own decisions, all without
your consent by the way.

Cmd Buzz Corey May 19th 05 02:46 PM

Pete KE9OA wrote:
Never.................



Yea right.

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...

Pete KE9OA wrote:

I am not talking about losing the auction............I am talking about
the way that she said she would get back to him, and didn't.


So you have *never* in your life told someone you would get back to them
and didn't I suppose.





[email protected] May 19th 05 03:53 PM


Yes I read that Steve

I pointed that out in a thread about the Europa once. But Mark Holden

who I
repect a lot, had this to say about article:

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Lucky wrote:
"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message


On the difference between the Europa and the regular HF-150, I'd

take the
Europa. The input filtering is likely to be more useful than any

loss in
sensitivity.



I can believe this. However, in that case I wonder whether the HF-150E
has anything over a standard HF-150 attached to a good quality highpass
filter. The 150 I use had very few problems with intermodulation even
here in the NYC metropolitan area. What few problems it did have were
cleared up completely by a Kiwa highpass filter. I already had the
filter lying around, but even new it would cost a lot less than a
Europa...and there are some high quality highpass filters out there
that cost less than Kiwa's.

On the other hand, you might just want a Europa because it's a
Europa...I can understand that too.

Steve


Pete KE9OA May 20th 05 02:51 PM

No, I am already married....................I promised my wife that I
wouldnt cheat!

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
Lucky wrote:
"Pete KE9OA" wrote in message
...

Anytime............................there will be another one available in
the future. It looks like this person doen't have much experience
selling on eBay. Also, she could have been intimidated by the feeling of
"being stuck in the middle". Sometimes my wife gets overloaded in that
type of situation.
You wil. find another one.....................many times, people get
tired of some of their radios and simply sell them.
If you pick up a broken one, shout me down and I will help you with the
repair.

Pete


Actually the seller doesn't really sell radios. She sells home made
baskets. That's her thing. She had a AOR 7030 and that Europa for sale
for a friend as a "shack reduction sale" I was willing to take a chance
even though she only had a feedback of 16 on very small sales.

Perhaps you're right and I am better off.

Thanks Pete
Lucky




Thank you Pete. I know you're a real standup guy. This world needs more
people like you. You're friendly, kind, logical and willing to go out of
your way for others. Plus you're optimistic and made me feel better. So,
if I can ever do you a favor, you know you have a friend in Florida.

Thank you
Lucky


Maybe you and Pete should get married.




Pete KE9OA May 20th 05 02:52 PM

I lied...................

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
Pete KE9OA wrote:
Needless to say, I didn't follow up
with them.


But but, you said you *never* failed to get back to someone.




Lucky May 20th 05 03:21 PM


"Pete KE9OA" wrote in message
...
No, I am already married....................I promised my wife that I
wouldnt cheat!

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
Lucky wrote:
"Pete KE9OA" wrote in message
...

Anytime............................there will be another one available
in the future. It looks like this person doen't have much experience
selling on eBay. Also, she could have been intimidated by the feeling of
"being stuck in the middle". Sometimes my wife gets overloaded in that
type of situation.
You wil. find another one.....................many times, people get
tired of some of their radios and simply sell them.
If you pick up a broken one, shout me down and I will help you with the
repair.

Pete


Actually the seller doesn't really sell radios. She sells home made
baskets. That's her thing. She had a AOR 7030 and that Europa for sale
for a friend as a "shack reduction sale" I was willing to take a chance
even though she only had a feedback of 16 on very small sales.

Perhaps you're right and I am better off.

Thanks Pete
Lucky




Thank you Pete. I know you're a real standup guy. This world needs more
people like you. You're friendly, kind, logical and willing to go out of
your way for others. Plus you're optimistic and made me feel better. So,
if I can ever do you a favor, you know you have a friend in Florida.

Thank you
Lucky


Maybe you and Pete should get married.




Pete,

don't reply to this lonely depressed loser anymore. He has no life as
another person I know in here. Can't you see the intelligence level we're
dealing with?????? But I didn't know you had a good sense of humor too! Have
a good happy day!

Lucky



dxAce May 20th 05 03:51 PM



Lucky wrote:

"Pete KE9OA" wrote in message
...
No, I am already married....................I promised my wife that I
wouldnt cheat!

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
Lucky wrote:
"Pete KE9OA" wrote in message
...

Anytime............................there will be another one available
in the future. It looks like this person doen't have much experience
selling on eBay. Also, she could have been intimidated by the feeling of
"being stuck in the middle". Sometimes my wife gets overloaded in that
type of situation.
You wil. find another one.....................many times, people get
tired of some of their radios and simply sell them.
If you pick up a broken one, shout me down and I will help you with the
repair.

Pete


Actually the seller doesn't really sell radios. She sells home made
baskets. That's her thing. She had a AOR 7030 and that Europa for sale
for a friend as a "shack reduction sale" I was willing to take a chance
even though she only had a feedback of 16 on very small sales.

Perhaps you're right and I am better off.

Thanks Pete
Lucky




Thank you Pete. I know you're a real standup guy. This world needs more
people like you. You're friendly, kind, logical and willing to go out of
your way for others. Plus you're optimistic and made me feel better. So,
if I can ever do you a favor, you know you have a friend in Florida.

Thank you
Lucky

Maybe you and Pete should get married.




Pete,

don't reply to this lonely depressed loser anymore. He has no life as
another person I know in here. Can't you see the intelligence level we're
dealing with??????


Can certainly see yours...

You're a whiner.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce May 20th 05 04:03 PM



Lucky wrote:

"Pete KE9OA" wrote in message
...
No, I am already married....................I promised my wife that I
wouldnt cheat!

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
Lucky wrote:
"Pete KE9OA" wrote in message
...

Anytime............................there will be another one available
in the future. It looks like this person doen't have much experience
selling on eBay. Also, she could have been intimidated by the feeling of
"being stuck in the middle". Sometimes my wife gets overloaded in that
type of situation.
You wil. find another one.....................many times, people get
tired of some of their radios and simply sell them.
If you pick up a broken one, shout me down and I will help you with the
repair.

Pete


Actually the seller doesn't really sell radios. She sells home made
baskets. That's her thing. She had a AOR 7030 and that Europa for sale
for a friend as a "shack reduction sale" I was willing to take a chance
even though she only had a feedback of 16 on very small sales.

Perhaps you're right and I am better off.

Thanks Pete
Lucky




Thank you Pete. I know you're a real standup guy. This world needs more
people like you. You're friendly, kind, logical and willing to go out of
your way for others. Plus you're optimistic and made me feel better. So,
if I can ever do you a favor, you know you have a friend in Florida.

Thank you
Lucky

Maybe you and Pete should get married.




Pete,

don't reply to this lonely depressed loser anymore.


And talk about depressed... I've never ever seen anyone throw such a hissy fit
because he/she/it couldn't what they wanted.

Boggling.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



BH May 20th 05 06:44 PM

Pete KE9OA wrote:
I lied...................

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...

Pete KE9OA wrote:
Needless to say, I didn't follow up

with them.


But but, you said you *never* failed to get back to someone.





Sorta what I expected the first time.

BH May 20th 05 06:48 PM

Lucky wrote:

Pete,

don't reply to this lonely depressed loser anymore. He has no life as
another person I know in here. Can't you see the intelligence level we're
dealing with?????? But I didn't know you had a good sense of humor too! Have
a good happy day!

Lucky


I have enough intelligence to know when I have been outbid in an
auction fare and square, something you don't seem to know, and I
certaily don't get depressed and whine and cry about losing an auction
either. So I think we know who he depressed loser who needs a life is here.

m II May 21st 05 06:26 AM

dxAce wrote:

And talk about depressed... I've never ever seen anyone throw such a hissy fit
because he/she/it couldn't what they wanted.




I hate it when I can't what I wanted..



mike


dxAce May 21st 05 11:53 AM



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

And talk about depressed... I've never ever seen anyone throw such a hissy fit
because he/she/it couldn't what they wanted.


I hate it when I can't what I wanted..


That a typical problem up in CanaDuh.. I suggest you go wait in line at your nearest
mental health facility.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Pete KE9OA May 21st 05 01:24 PM


"Lucky" wrote in message
...
Pete,

don't reply to this lonely depressed loser anymore. He has no life as
another person I know in here. Can't you see the intelligence level we're
dealing with?????? But I didn't know you had a good sense of humor too!
Have a good happy day!

Lucky


Thanks Lucky..............he could just be having a bad day. No big
deal..........

Pete



Pete KE9OA May 21st 05 01:27 PM

Didn't this start out as somebody looking for an opinion about a lost eBay
auction? Just another
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnng gggggggggggg thread!
That's the beauty of these newsgroups. Have fun! I promise not to look at
this thread anymore!

Pete

"BH" wrote in message
...
Pete KE9OA wrote:
I lied...................

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...

Pete KE9OA wrote:
Needless to say, I didn't follow up

with them.

But but, you said you *never* failed to get back to someone.





Sorta what I expected the first time.




dxAce May 21st 05 01:30 PM



Pete KE9OA wrote:

Didn't this start out as somebody looking for an opinion about a lost eBay
auction?


No, actually it was started off as a post by an individual whining like the
cry-baby he/she/it is about a lost eBay auction.

Let's inject some semblance of reality here.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce May 21st 05 01:39 PM



dxAce wrote:

Pete KE9OA wrote:

Didn't this start out as somebody looking for an opinion about a lost eBay
auction?


No, actually it was started off as a post by an individual whining like the
cry-baby he/she/it is about a lost eBay auction.


As in: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah... I got outbid.


Let's inject some semblance of reality here.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Pete KE9OA May 21st 05 01:46 PM

She did, because she told him that she would.

We only have his word at what she said. We do not know exactly
whatshe said or whathe said. So its premature to say that she was at
fault at all. Besides all he is really doing now is whining like a
baby and trying to get attention. Perhaps he is hoping spmeone will
take pity on him an offer to sell him a SW radio


This newsgroup is about shortwave radio, but I think is also serves a need
for social interraction. This is a good thing; people need to know that they
are all special. If somebody runs into an unhappy situation the way Lucky
did, I don't see any problem with his venting on rec.radio.shortwave.
It is a heck of a lot better than some of those off-topic political posts
that tend to bash certain individuals.
We are all people, and we are going to feel emotional at certain times.
Expressing our feelings are healthy. For those who don't believe this, maybe
we should start a newsgroup entitled rec.people.automatons............just
kidding.
You are correct............maybe we don't really know what the exchange was
between Lucky and the eBay seller, but I think that my first assessment was
probably correct.
I think that this was an inexperienced seller. I also think that this might
have been the first time she was in this kind of situation and that she
didn't know how to handle it. Part of being human, you know.................
I can understand Lucky's disappointment with the deal. I remember, several
years ago I was at the Rockwell-Collins Inventory Disposal store. We all had
a gentlemens' agreement that the first person in line would have the first
pick of one of the good pieces of test equipment that were available.
My friend Jack was first in line, and he got ahold of a nice HP 436A RF
power meter, with the sensors for only 20 dollars.
Boy, was I mad at him!
As time went on, I realized that people are more important than things, no
matter how nice the things are. I told him that I was pretty mad at him at
that time, but that his friendship was much more important than a piece of
test equipment. We remained good friends over the years, and last year, he
gave me a really good deal on an 8444A, Option 059 Tracking Generator. This
is the matching unit for my 8558B Spectrum Analyzer.
The whole point of this rant (and rave) is that if a deal on one item is
missed, another one will always show up in the future.
As an example, a friend of mine (Dave Z) just ordered a Lowe HF250 receiver
from some place in the UK that does ship to the US. Around 800 dollars with
shipping and import duty.............not much more than tha HF150E that the
Japanese fellow bought from eBay.

Pete




dxAce May 21st 05 02:01 PM



Pete KE9OA wrote:

She did, because she told him that she would.


We only have his word at what she said. We do not know exactly
whatshe said or whathe said. So its premature to say that she was at
fault at all. Besides all he is really doing now is whining like a
baby and trying to get attention. Perhaps he is hoping spmeone will
take pity on him an offer to sell him a SW radio


This newsgroup is about shortwave radio, but I think is also serves a need
for social interraction. This is a good thing; people need to know that they
are all special. If somebody runs into an unhappy situation the way Lucky
did, I don't see any problem with his venting on rec.radio.shortwave.
It is a heck of a lot better than some of those off-topic political posts
that tend to bash certain individuals.
We are all people, and we are going to feel emotional at certain times.
Expressing our feelings are healthy. For those who don't believe this, maybe
we should start a newsgroup entitled rec.people.automatons............just
kidding.
You are correct............maybe we don't really know what the exchange was
between Lucky and the eBay seller, but I think that my first assessment was
probably correct.
I think that this was an inexperienced seller. I also think that this might
have been the first time she was in this kind of situation and that she
didn't know how to handle it.


Noooooooooooooo... he simply was out bid.

Once again... a real no-brainer.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Pete KE9OA May 21st 05 05:30 PM

I'll see you folks in the next thread!

Pete

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dxAce wrote:

Pete KE9OA wrote:

Didn't this start out as somebody looking for an opinion about a lost
eBay
auction?


No, actually it was started off as a post by an individual whining like
the
cry-baby he/she/it is about a lost eBay auction.


As in: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah... I got outbid.


Let's inject some semblance of reality here.

dxAce
Michigan
USA





Eunty JEck May 30th 05 03:40 AM


"m II" wrote in message
news:7Ezje.2976$HI.1217@edtnps84...
dxAce wrote:

And talk about depressed... I've never ever seen anyone throw such a

hissy fit
because he/she/it couldn't what they wanted.




I hate it when I can't what I wanted..



mike


Take your medication loser.



[email protected] May 30th 05 11:02 PM

On Thu, 19 May 2005 10:50:22 GMT, "Pete KE9OA"
wrote:

Never.................a person's word is supposed to be as good as gold. Too
bad that being responsible isn't looked at as a virtue anymore. Years ago, I
used to work in customer service for one of the major banks.


Years ago I wasraised to believe an unoccupied convertible
with the top down, a gold bar in plain sight on the seat and the
engine running could be looked at, but not otherwise messed with.

Quit living in the past.

Our department
head pounded it into us that when taking care of a customer problem, even if
we didn't have the solution yet, we should call them from time to time to
let them know that we were still working on a solution to their problem.

Pete

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
Pete KE9OA wrote:
I am not talking about losing the auction............I am talking about
the way that she said she would get back to him, and didn't.


So you have *never* in your life told someone you would get back to them
and didn't I suppose.




[email protected] May 30th 05 11:04 PM

On 18 May 2005 16:35:14 -0700, "Tipo" wrote:

You lot need to chill out.wtf has all this oneupmanship got to do with
shortwave listening.


It pertains to reliable acquisition of the necessary
equipment, which you might have gathered if you were paying attention.


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