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Pete KE9OA May 19th 05 11:50 AM

Never.................a person's word is supposed to be as good as gold. Too
bad that being responsible isn't looked at as a virtue anymore. Years ago, I
used to work in customer service for one of the major banks. Our department
head pounded it into us that when taking care of a customer problem, even if
we didn't have the solution yet, we should call them from time to time to
let them know that we were still working on a solution to their problem.

Pete

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
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Pete KE9OA wrote:
I am not talking about losing the auction............I am talking about
the way that she said she would get back to him, and didn't.


So you have *never* in your life told someone you would get back to them
and didn't I suppose.




Pete KE9OA May 19th 05 11:51 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
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Pete KE9OA wrote:

I am not talking about losing the auction............I am talking about
the
way that she said she would get back to him, and didn't.


At that juncture she had no responsibility to get back to him whatsoever.
He
lost the auction...


She did, because she told him that she would.

In reality, he was trying to alter or defeat the auction process by making
another offer after another individual won the auction.


Agreed.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




Pete KE9OA May 19th 05 11:57 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
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dxAce wrote:

Pete KE9OA wrote:

I am not talking about losing the auction............I am talking about
the
way that she said she would get back to him, and didn't.


At that juncture she had no responsibility to get back to him whatsoever.
He
lost the auction...

In reality, he was trying to alter or defeat the auction process by
making
another offer after another individual won the auction.


As an addendum, what she was probably trying to say when she said she'd
get back
to him was that she'd get back to him if circumstances with the winning
bidder
change.

Another no-brainer.


If that was the case, that is what she should have said. Nothing that
important; it is to be expected when dealing with such a large section of
society. There used to be a big flea market on Maxwell Street (east side of
Chicago) every weekend.
You could find almost anything there at any given time, from rare items to
outright junk.
I alway tell my friends "Maxwell Street didn't disappear......it just moved
to the Internet". For those of you who saw the Blues Brothers, the scene
where John Lee Hooker was playing the song Boom Boom was on Maxwell Street.

Pete




Pete KE9OA May 19th 05 12:04 PM

Anytime............................there will be another one available in
the future. It looks like this person doen't have much experience selling
on eBay. Also, she could have been intimidated by the feeling of "being
stuck in the middle". Sometimes my wife gets overloaded in that type of
situation.
You wil. find another one.....................many times, people get tired
of some of their radios and simply sell them.
If you pick up a broken one, shout me down and I will help you with the
repair.

Pete

Actually the seller doesn't really sell radios. She sells home made
baskets. That's her thing. She had a AOR 7030 and that Europa for sale for
a friend as a "shack reduction sale" I was willing to take a chance even
though she only had a feedback of 16 on very small sales.

Perhaps you're right and I am better off.

Thanks Pete
Lucky




Lucky May 19th 05 02:32 PM


"Pete KE9OA" wrote in message
...
Anytime............................there will be another one available in
the future. It looks like this person doen't have much experience selling
on eBay. Also, she could have been intimidated by the feeling of "being
stuck in the middle". Sometimes my wife gets overloaded in that type of
situation.
You wil. find another one.....................many times, people get tired
of some of their radios and simply sell them.
If you pick up a broken one, shout me down and I will help you with the
repair.

Pete

Actually the seller doesn't really sell radios. She sells home made
baskets. That's her thing. She had a AOR 7030 and that Europa for sale
for a friend as a "shack reduction sale" I was willing to take a chance
even though she only had a feedback of 16 on very small sales.

Perhaps you're right and I am better off.

Thanks Pete
Lucky




Thank you Pete. I know you're a real standup guy. This world needs more
people like you. You're friendly, kind, logical and willing to go out of
your way for others. Plus you're optimistic and made me feel better. So, if
I can ever do you a favor, you know you have a friend in Florida.

Thank you
Lucky



Cmd Buzz Corey May 19th 05 02:43 PM

Lucky wrote:
Some how I don't like your tune.

Like I really care.



This is not the first time I've seen Japanese and foreign buyers paying
way over what they usually go for and blowing away other buyers.


And the problem with that is? Other than it means you don't get the item.



And when it happens to you, I hope you feel the same way.


I have been outbid a number of times, I figure out what the max I will
pay for an item and that's it, if I get outbid, well that's life and
that's how an auction works. I deal with it an move on, not whine and
cry about how it is somehow unfair.



People from overseas seem to be always willing to buy at very high prices
since most Ebayers won't ship out of the country. So, I always stay away
from worldwide auctions unless it's a little item like Brenda Ann
mentioned. Plus these foreign bidders money is worth more then our US
dollar so they can pay more too.


That's life, deal with it. So what you really want is for no foreing
bidders to bid against you so you can have your item. Auctions don't work
that way in case you haven't noticed.




Yes it does work that way with MOST sellers that won't ship overseas no
matter what. So auctions do work that way in case YOU haven't noticed.


But you want a seller to ban overseas bidders on any item you want just
so you have a better chance at it.



So now you want sellers who have an item you want to disallow any overseas
buyers so you can maybe win the auction.



That's right. It cuts down on the number of bidders so if someone states
they won't address all those other foreign bidders and and say so in the
auction, they should stick to it. There are terms that people should stick
to in life. It shows who and what they are in this world. Sorry if you don't
see that.


In other words, you want it fair only for you. Again, it is the seller's
auction, they can do what they damn well please and they don't have to
consult you. Deal with it.

Again, you don't seem

to understand how an auction works. eBay is world wide and no seller is
obligated to disallow certain bidders just for your benefit. You really
need to get a clue. Maybe the Jap buyer had it shipped to a friend in the
U.S. who then shipped it to him.



This is true. I have no idea if that happened. I think it would have been
nice if the seller told me that since I was a bidder and helped bid her item
up high.

Again, the seller can do whatever

they wish about shipping and they don't have to take your feelings into
consideration at all.


Then on top of that, when I asked the seller about her auction and the
Japanese winner, she thanked me for "alerting" her to this and would get
back to me. I even offered her the winning bidders price so she would not
have lost anything. Not a cent. But she never got back to me with any
sort of explanation.


And she didn't owe you any explaination.



No one has to do anything Cmd. For some reason I like to deal with humans,
not robots.


If you had been dealing with a robot, then the no shipping out of the US
would have stuck, you are dealing with humans that can and have the
right to change their mind and make their own decisions, all without
your consent by the way.

Cmd Buzz Corey May 19th 05 02:46 PM

Pete KE9OA wrote:
Never.................



Yea right.

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...

Pete KE9OA wrote:

I am not talking about losing the auction............I am talking about
the way that she said she would get back to him, and didn't.


So you have *never* in your life told someone you would get back to them
and didn't I suppose.





[email protected] May 19th 05 03:53 PM


Yes I read that Steve

I pointed that out in a thread about the Europa once. But Mark Holden

who I
repect a lot, had this to say about article:

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Lucky wrote:
"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message


On the difference between the Europa and the regular HF-150, I'd

take the
Europa. The input filtering is likely to be more useful than any

loss in
sensitivity.



I can believe this. However, in that case I wonder whether the HF-150E
has anything over a standard HF-150 attached to a good quality highpass
filter. The 150 I use had very few problems with intermodulation even
here in the NYC metropolitan area. What few problems it did have were
cleared up completely by a Kiwa highpass filter. I already had the
filter lying around, but even new it would cost a lot less than a
Europa...and there are some high quality highpass filters out there
that cost less than Kiwa's.

On the other hand, you might just want a Europa because it's a
Europa...I can understand that too.

Steve


Pete KE9OA May 20th 05 02:51 PM

No, I am already married....................I promised my wife that I
wouldnt cheat!

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
Lucky wrote:
"Pete KE9OA" wrote in message
...

Anytime............................there will be another one available in
the future. It looks like this person doen't have much experience
selling on eBay. Also, she could have been intimidated by the feeling of
"being stuck in the middle". Sometimes my wife gets overloaded in that
type of situation.
You wil. find another one.....................many times, people get
tired of some of their radios and simply sell them.
If you pick up a broken one, shout me down and I will help you with the
repair.

Pete


Actually the seller doesn't really sell radios. She sells home made
baskets. That's her thing. She had a AOR 7030 and that Europa for sale
for a friend as a "shack reduction sale" I was willing to take a chance
even though she only had a feedback of 16 on very small sales.

Perhaps you're right and I am better off.

Thanks Pete
Lucky




Thank you Pete. I know you're a real standup guy. This world needs more
people like you. You're friendly, kind, logical and willing to go out of
your way for others. Plus you're optimistic and made me feel better. So,
if I can ever do you a favor, you know you have a friend in Florida.

Thank you
Lucky


Maybe you and Pete should get married.




Pete KE9OA May 20th 05 02:52 PM

I lied...................

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
Pete KE9OA wrote:
Needless to say, I didn't follow up
with them.


But but, you said you *never* failed to get back to someone.





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