little something from an old friend in the UK. we had been back and
forth about the new
road use tax in the UK. and how it would be sure to spread to the USA
when that loser
gang in DC figures how they can make money off it. (and screw the
regular people). she
is a wonderful lady, and a real Christian in the good sense. thought you
might want to
read what she just emailed me today. wondering what you think of this?
and the short
connection is i heard this on the beeb last week. "from bad to
worse"....
************************************************** ***************************************



Subject: Things going from bad to worse
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:36:47 +0100
From: "Carol"
To:

Drifter,

Yeah, the British government is considering scrapping fuel tax and
replacing
it with a new road charge based on the distance and time motorists
travel.
And now they want to remove Bibles from hospitals (see attachment), and
now
a crucifix has been taken down at Newham General Hospital’s chapel in
East
London. Instead, there was a bowl used by Muslim worshippers to wash
their
feet before they pray. This last stunt was reported in the Daily
Express on
Saturday, June 4. Please pass this information on to anyone you know.
If
it’s happening here, it will most likely happen in the United States (if
it’s not already happening). Christians cannot let this sort of thing
happen. The move by the hospital was condemned by the Evangelical
Alliance
last night (the article continues). General Director Joel Edwards said:
“It’s particularly hard to understand – bemusing – as other faiths have
never shown or expressed any disquiet about the presence of Christian
literature and specifically the Bible being on display. In a
multi-faith
society we have a responsibility to ensure that people of all faiths
have
room to express their faith. But to do this to the exclusion of
Christian
faith is not only absurd but is ludicrously unequal.”



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/4605827.stm



Sound familiar? Remove prayer from schools…can’t display the Nativity
at
Christmas…removal of Bibles…what next?



Excuse me while I get my prayer mat !!!



Carol

************************************************** *********************************
--
Drifter...

***ON THE FRINGE OF PITTSBURGH***

Yeah, the British government is considering scrapping fuel tax and
replacing
it with a new road charge based on the distance and time motorists
travel.

Sounds like the Socialist NeoComie Labour Government in Britain.

And now they want to remove Bibles from hospitals (see attachment), and
now
a crucifix has been taken down at Newham General Hospital's chapel in
East
London.

More Socialist NeoCommie Judiciary rulings.

Instead, there was a bowl used by Muslim worshippers to wash
their
feet before they pray.

Forget about gay and lesbians and start making a herd load of babies and you
wouldn't have an emigrant problem in Europa.
But the Socialist NeoComs are brainwashing you with population control and
nursing your egos' need to consume instead of invest in the future
generation.


Sound familiar? Remove prayer from schools.can't display the Nativity
at
Christmas.removal of Bibles.what next?


Get ride of the Leftwing Judiciary!

Does anyone have any respect for the public servants in office and
courts who allow this? Don't they think it is dangerous when you start
creating a society where the citizens you are supposed to serve wanna
kill ya? Makes you wonder what they are thinking, doesn't it?

Warmest regards,
John

"Drifter" wrote in message
...
little something from an old friend in the UK. we had been back and
forth about the new
road use tax in the UK. and how it would be sure to spread to the USA
when that loser
gang in DC figures how they can make money off it. (and screw the
regular people). she
is a wonderful lady, and a real Christian in the good sense. thought
you
might want to
read what she just emailed me today. wondering what you think of this?
and the short
connection is i heard this on the beeb last week. "from bad to
worse"....
************************************************** ***************************************



Subject: Things going from bad to worse
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:36:47 +0100
From: "Carol"
To:

Drifter,

Yeah, the British government is considering scrapping fuel tax and
replacing
it with a new road charge based on the distance and time motorists
travel.
And now they want to remove Bibles from hospitals (see attachment),
and
now
a crucifix has been taken down at Newham General Hospital's chapel in
East
London. Instead, there was a bowl used by Muslim worshippers to wash
their
feet before they pray. This last stunt was reported in the Daily
Express on
Saturday, June 4. Please pass this information on to anyone you know.
If
it's happening here, it will most likely happen in the United States
(if
it's not already happening). Christians cannot let this sort of thing
happen. The move by the hospital was condemned by the Evangelical
Alliance
last night (the article continues). General Director Joel Edwards
said:
"It's particularly hard to understand - bemusing - as other faiths
have
never shown or expressed any disquiet about the presence of Christian
literature and specifically the Bible being on display. In a
multi-faith
society we have a responsibility to ensure that people of all faiths
have
room to express their faith. But to do this to the exclusion of
Christian
faith is not only absurd but is ludicrously unequal."



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/4605827.stm



Sound familiar? Remove prayer from schools.can't display the Nativity
at
Christmas.removal of Bibles.what next?



Excuse me while I get my prayer mat !!!



Carol

************************************************** *********************************
--
Drifter...

***ON THE FRINGE OF PITTSBURGH***

Expect it to arrive here, if it isn't already present. I made the
statement, years ago, that the two fairest taxes are the sales tax and
toll roads. It isn't fair to tax those who have (owners of real estate)
to provide for those who never tried to have or had some awful
priorities such as throwing their money away on booze, broads or drugs. :-)

"Income" is a terrible tax because it punishes a person for trying to
accumulate something, while letting those in black market trades get by
without paying it.

Bootleggers, drug dealers, prostitutes, con men and spies all spend
money. Therefore, the sales tax collects from ALL regardless of the
source or legality of their income. Likewise, the road tolls. The
roads are paid for by those who use them. If you order something by
mail or truck then you help to pay for the roads, indirectly, because
the user (truck lines, etc.) has to pass the tax along to his customers.

BUT!!! Wicked men will attempt to find a way to abuse anything.
Ecclesiastes 10:2 tells us, "A wise man’s heart directs him toward the
right, but the foolish man’s heart directs him toward the left."

[New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (Ec 10:2). LaHabra, CA:
The Lockman Foundation.]

This might explain a lot about the choices politicians make!

Another verse comes to mind. II Timothy 3:13, "But evil men and
seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived." KJV / AV

Also, Scriptures tell us that the most wicked of all kingdoms is coming,
is going to be very short lived and after that Jesus Christ is going to
set up His kingdom ON THIS EARTH! This is what has the wicked so
frightened. They FEAR and TREMBLE at the thoughts of Jesus Christ
setting up His kingdom on this earth and their actually having to give
an account for all the wickedness they have done.

I believe we are entering those times right now. Christians will be
persecuted from ALL "legal" systems. It is very difficult for them to
get justice in the courts already. Scriptures tell the Christian to
train up his children in the way God would have them go. The courts
tell them to let some atheistic, unionized, God hating goof ball train
them in the way the state wants them to go. It's "legal" for a woman to
pay some Christ hating jerk to rip her child from her body and flush it
down a toilet or sell it's tiny body parts. It's "illegal" for a person
to stand on a sidewalk and attempt to talk a woman out of having her
baby butchered that day! Go figure!

It's going to get MUCH WORSE before it gets any better.

HOWEVER, God protected the Hebrew Children, descendants of Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob, from EVERY ONE of the plagues He brought up Egypt.

God protected the three Hebrew boys INSIDE the fiery furnace.

God protected Daniel IN the lion's den.

Read Matthew 24. Don't expect the "secret rapture" that so many of the
churches tell us about. Read Hebrews 11. God is ABLE to deliver, but
some went through some awful tortures in the past and the future will be
even worse. God will provide the strength and stamina for the faithful
when the time comes.

I noticed in the paper recently that Elizabeth Dole, a "right wing
conservative" - MY EYE, is planning to vote for CAFTA (?) Central
American Free Trade Agreement. Remember that it was her husband, Robert
Dole, who PRETENDED to be against NAFTA but when the time came he did
the arm twisting to get it pushed through. But that's a whole new
topic of its own! I'll not go with it yet!

It does tend to show that step by step the whole earth is being formed
into that ten-toed kingdom made of iron and clay (non-cohesive) which
will attempt to overthrow God and His kingdom.

Stay tuned! It's like a trip to King's Dominion. It's going to be a
very bumpy ride, but it'll be a lot of fun when God's plan is finally
worked out. Actually, it's being worked out now. He's a GREAT CHESS
PLAYER! He's just letting Satan *think* he is winning - for a while. :-)

Hope this helps.

===========

Drifter wrote:
little something from an old friend in the UK. we had been back and
forth about the new
road use tax in the UK. and how it would be sure to spread to the USA
when that loser
gang in DC figures how they can make money off it. (and screw the
regular people). she
is a wonderful lady, and a real Christian in the good sense. thought you
might want to
read what she just emailed me today. wondering what you think of this?
and the short
connection is i heard this on the beeb last week. "from bad to
worse"....
************************************************** ***************************************



Subject: Things going from bad to worse
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:36:47 +0100
From: "Carol"
To:

Drifter,

Yeah, the British government is considering scrapping fuel tax and
replacing
it with a new road charge based on the distance and time motorists
travel.
And now they want to remove Bibles from hospitals (see attachment), and
now
a crucifix has been taken down at Newham General Hospital’s chapel in
East
London. Instead, there was a bowl used by Muslim worshippers to wash
their
feet before they pray. This last stunt was reported in the Daily
Express on
Saturday, June 4. Please pass this information on to anyone you know.
If
it’s happening here, it will most likely happen in the United States (if
it’s not already happening). Christians cannot let this sort of thing
happen. The move by the hospital was condemned by the Evangelical
Alliance
last night (the article continues). General Director Joel Edwards said:
“It’s particularly hard to understand – bemusing – as other faiths have
never shown or expressed any disquiet about the presence of Christian
literature and specifically the Bible being on display. In a
multi-faith
society we have a responsibility to ensure that people of all faiths
have
room to express their faith. But to do this to the exclusion of
Christian
faith is not only absurd but is ludicrously unequal.�



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/4605827.stm



Sound familiar? Remove prayer from schools…can’t display the Nativity
at
Christmas…removal of Bibles…what next?



Excuse me while I get my prayer mat !!!



Carol

************************************************** *********************************

Expect it to arrive here, if it isn't already present. I made the
statement, years ago, that the two fairest taxes are the sales tax and
toll roads. It isn't fair to tax those who have (owners of real estate)
to provide for those who never tried to have or had some awful
priorities such as throwing their money away on booze, broads or drugs.
:-)

************************************************** **********************

thanks Al. i read your post twice. you do have a way with words.
i expect to hear about this on a few short wave station programs
on monday...
thanks again...

--
Drifter...

***ON THE FRINGE OF PITTSBURGH***

Drifter wrote:

[...] and a real Christian in the good sense. [...]


Real Christians do not hate in God's name. Ever.

*plonk*

I would rather burn in hell for eternity than kiss Jesus's ass for
eternity. That's what Christianity boils down to: Jesus saying "kiss my
ass and go to heaven and everybody who doesn't kiss my ass will be
thrown into the lake of fire". And then the Bible says that Jesus will
FORCE everybody to kiss his ass-"every knee shall bow and every tongue
confess". I suppose that like every dictator, the Heavenly Dictator
thinks that forcing people to kiss his ass equates to approval of his
leadership and actions. When the dictator can throw you into a firepit
for refusing to kowtow to him, most people would bow their knees and
confess their "love" for him, a sad testament to moral cowardice. And
then after a few generations the descendants of the kowtowers eagerly
join the dictator's minions in throwing the refuseniks into the fire.
This is what Christianity (and most other religions) is based on, the
concept that God is a Middle Eastern sheik who can order people around
like slaves and use the threat of eternal punishment to ensure meek
subservience. Your religion is ****ing sick. Have you actually READ the
Bible? Your god is always killing people, 40,000 here, 70,000 there,
just because they're not forthcoming in joyous enough praise of him.
What a sick ****er your god is, force people to praise him, and if that
praise isn't sufficient it's off to hell they go. And of course it's
moral and just because God says it is, and he's God so he's responsible
to nobody and he has the final word, so he can slaughter thousands all
day long and then call it perfect justice. Take your preaching and shove
it up Jesus's ass, then kiss it. I for one hope Satan wins. If God wins,
we're all ****ed.


Al Patrick wrote:

Expect it to arrive here, if it isn't already present. I made the
statement, years ago, that the two fairest taxes are the sales tax and
toll roads. It isn't fair to tax those who have (owners of real estate)
to provide for those who never tried to have or had some awful
priorities such as throwing their money away on booze, broads or drugs. :-)

"Income" is a terrible tax because it punishes a person for trying to
accumulate something, while letting those in black market trades get by
without paying it.

Bootleggers, drug dealers, prostitutes, con men and spies all spend
money. Therefore, the sales tax collects from ALL regardless of the
source or legality of their income. Likewise, the road tolls. The
roads are paid for by those who use them. If you order something by
mail or truck then you help to pay for the roads, indirectly, because
the user (truck lines, etc.) has to pass the tax along to his customers.

BUT!!! Wicked men will attempt to find a way to abuse anything.
Ecclesiastes 10:2 tells us, "A wise man’s heart directs him toward the
right, but the foolish man’s heart directs him toward the left."

[New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (Ec 10:2). LaHabra, CA:
The Lockman Foundation.]

This might explain a lot about the choices politicians make!

Another verse comes to mind. II Timothy 3:13, "But evil men and
seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived." KJV / AV

Also, Scriptures tell us that the most wicked of all kingdoms is coming,
is going to be very short lived and after that Jesus Christ is going to
set up His kingdom ON THIS EARTH! This is what has the wicked so
frightened. They FEAR and TREMBLE at the thoughts of Jesus Christ
setting up His kingdom on this earth and their actually having to give
an account for all the wickedness they have done.

I believe we are entering those times right now. Christians will be
persecuted from ALL "legal" systems. It is very difficult for them to
get justice in the courts already. Scriptures tell the Christian to
train up his children in the way God would have them go. The courts
tell them to let some atheistic, unionized, God hating goof ball train
them in the way the state wants them to go. It's "legal" for a woman to
pay some Christ hating jerk to rip her child from her body and flush it
down a toilet or sell it's tiny body parts. It's "illegal" for a person
to stand on a sidewalk and attempt to talk a woman out of having her
baby butchered that day! Go figure!

It's going to get MUCH WORSE before it gets any better.

HOWEVER, God protected the Hebrew Children, descendants of Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob, from EVERY ONE of the plagues He brought up Egypt.

God protected the three Hebrew boys INSIDE the fiery furnace.

God protected Daniel IN the lion's den.

Read Matthew 24. Don't expect the "secret rapture" that so many of the
churches tell us about. Read Hebrews 11. God is ABLE to deliver, but
some went through some awful tortures in the past and the future will be
even worse. God will provide the strength and stamina for the faithful
when the time comes.

I noticed in the paper recently that Elizabeth Dole, a "right wing
conservative" - MY EYE, is planning to vote for CAFTA (?) Central
American Free Trade Agreement. Remember that it was her husband, Robert
Dole, who PRETENDED to be against NAFTA but when the time came he did
the arm twisting to get it pushed through. But that's a whole new
topic of its own! I'll not go with it yet!

It does tend to show that step by step the whole earth is being formed
into that ten-toed kingdom made of iron and clay (non-cohesive) which
will attempt to overthrow God and His kingdom.

Stay tuned! It's like a trip to King's Dominion. It's going to be a
very bumpy ride, but it'll be a lot of fun when God's plan is finally
worked out. Actually, it's being worked out now. He's a GREAT CHESS
PLAYER! He's just letting Satan *think* he is winning - for a while. :-)

Hope this helps.

===========

Drifter wrote:
little something from an old friend in the UK. we had been back and
forth about the new
road use tax in the UK. and how it would be sure to spread to the USA
when that loser
gang in DC figures how they can make money off it. (and screw the
regular people). she
is a wonderful lady, and a real Christian in the good sense. thought you
might want to
read what she just emailed me today. wondering what you think of this?
and the short
connection is i heard this on the beeb last week. "from bad to
worse"....
************************************************** ***************************************



Subject: Things going from bad to worse
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:36:47 +0100
From: "Carol"
To:

Drifter,

Yeah, the British government is considering scrapping fuel tax and
replacing
it with a new road charge based on the distance and time motorists
travel.
And now they want to remove Bibles from hospitals (see attachment), and
now
a crucifix has been taken down at Newham General Hospital’s chapel in
East
London. Instead, there was a bowl used by Muslim worshippers to wash
their
feet before they pray. This last stunt was reported in the Daily
Express on
Saturday, June 4. Please pass this information on to anyone you know.
If
it’s happening here, it will most likely happen in the United States (if
it’s not already happening). Christians cannot let this sort of thing
happen. The move by the hospital was condemned by the Evangelical
Alliance
last night (the article continues). General Director Joel Edwards said:
‶It’s particularly hard to understand – bemusing – as other faiths have
never shown or expressed any disquiet about the presence of Christian
literature and specifically the Bible being on display. In a
multi-faith
society we have a responsibility to ensure that people of all faiths
have
room to express their faith. But to do this to the exclusion of
Christian
faith is not only absurd but is ludicrously unequal."



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/4605827.stm



Sound familiar? Remove prayer from schools…can’t display the Nativity
at
Christmas…removal of Bibles…what next?



Excuse me while I get my prayer mat !!!



Carol

************************************************** *********************************


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running dogg wrote:

I would rather burn in hell for eternity than kiss Jesus's ass for
eternity. That's what Christianity boils down to: Jesus saying "kiss my
ass and go to heaven and everybody who doesn't kiss my ass will be
thrown into the lake of fire". And then the Bible says that Jesus will
FORCE everybody to kiss his ass-"every knee shall bow and every tongue
confess". I suppose that like every dictator, the Heavenly Dictator
thinks that forcing people to kiss his ass equates to approval of his
leadership and actions. When the dictator can throw you into a firepit
for refusing to kowtow to him, most people would bow their knees and
confess their "love" for him, a sad testament to moral cowardice. And
then after a few generations the descendants of the kowtowers eagerly
join the dictator's minions in throwing the refuseniks into the fire.
This is what Christianity (and most other religions) is based on, the
concept that God is a Middle Eastern sheik who can order people around
like slaves and use the threat of eternal punishment to ensure meek
subservience. Your religion is ****ing sick. Have you actually READ the
Bible? Your god is always killing people, 40,000 here, 70,000 there,
just because they're not forthcoming in joyous enough praise of him.
What a sick ****er your god is, force people to praise him, and if that
praise isn't sufficient it's off to hell they go. And of course it's
moral and just because God says it is, and he's God so he's responsible
to nobody and he has the final word, so he can slaughter thousands all
day long and then call it perfect justice. Take your preaching and shove
it up Jesus's ass, then kiss it. I for one hope Satan wins. If God wins,
we're all ****ed.


You're the only one I've ever heard of that wants to go to hell.
Well, have fun down there.

--
Former professional electron wrangler.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 16:57:51 -0500, "Li,Chanchun"
wrote:

Yeah, the British government is considering scrapping fuel tax and
replacing it with a new road charge based on the distance and
time motorists travel.
Sounds like the Socialist NeoComie Labour Government in Britain.

No, it sounds like a very sensible idea to all parties (I'm a member
of the right-wing UK Conservative party) when you consider that we
have:

* 50 million people with
* 30 million vehicles on an island only
* 700 miles long.

What's missing from the description is "congestion". The proposed
system is based on congestion, multiplied by distance and time
travelled.

Driving in crowded London (where there are busses every 3 minutes
anyway) will cost more.

Driving in my home county of Gloucestershire (a rural area, my village
has one bus per week - on Monday) will cost a lot less.

Currently of the 5 dollars a gallon of gas I pay, more than 3 dollars
of this is tax. I pay this tax even though I drive down empty rural
roads.

They want to change this so that I pay only 2 dollars a gallon for
gas, PLUS 2p per mile to drive down empty rural roads.

Sounds like a sensible right-wing tax-cutting winner to me!

Forget about gay and lesbians and start making a herd load of babies and you
wouldn't have an emigrant problem in Europa.

I quite agree. Wish me well with my marriage on Saturday! We're hoping
to have kids next year.

Us Europeans aren't all liberal urban homosexuals. Heck, dude, I live
next to a farm and have a rifle range in my back yard.

That's why the new road charge proposals are good; it stops punishing
good old-fashioned country folk like me and puts the burden of gas tax
back on the urban people where it belongs.

--
Andrew Oakley andrew/atsymbol/aoakley/stop/com

"Andrew Oakley" wrote

They want to change this so that I pay only 2 dollars a gallon for
gas, PLUS 2p per mile to drive down empty rural roads.

Sounds like a sensible right-wing tax-cutting winner to me!

We have had toll roads here on certain interstate highways for many years.
If they expand on this concept, which is possible, they won't cut any taxes
here.


Forget about gay and lesbians and start making a herd load of babies and
you
wouldn't have an emigrant problem in Europa.

I quite agree. Wish me well with my marriage on Saturday! We're hoping
to have kids next year.

Hopefully at least three! And don't wait to long between each of them.


Us Europeans aren't all liberal urban homosexuals. Heck, dude, I live
next to a farm and have a rifle range in my back yard.


I understand. But what you hear from the media on both sides of the pond
makes you
think they are the vast majority.



That's why the new road charge proposals are good; it stops punishing
good old-fashioned country folk like me and puts the burden of gas tax
back on the urban people where it belongs.


We have vehicle license tax, fuel tax and local, state and federal taxes. A
portion of each is allocated to new road construction and maintenance. Not
to mention highway tolls extorted on certain highways as mentioned above.

Enough! Now get to it and procreate so we can have more productive, tax
paying citizens. Congratulations!