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Old July 14th 05, 03:50 AM
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Has anybody heard The World Today? On 9825 at 0200 they had a report on
the psychology of suicide bombing. Basically, the expert said that the
bombers are disaffected young people fed up with the current social and
religious constructs under which they live, and subsceptible to utopian
dreams. When the promise of 72 virgins in Paradise for eternity is
compared to what they see around them on the earthly plane, Paradise
starts looking pretty damn good. They also mentioned that in Iraq
different factions of Muslims are going into the mosques of the opposing
faction and blowing themselves up.

What all this adds up to is that no place is safe, and everybody between
the ages of 13 and 25 is a potential terrorist. It's the same impulse
that gave birth to the 60s counterculture, only much more damaging. What
we're talking about is a threat not only to Western Civilization but to
the basic building blocks upon which human interaction is built. If
every teenager in the world decides that suicide bombing is better than
earthly living, and the goal is simply to kill as many people as
possible wherever and whenever they may be found, then the human race is
probably doomed.

We each go out into the world trusting that the people around us are not
out to blow us up. Imagine if children start killing their parents, if
bombs go off on school buses, if life becomes one long litany of death
and destruction that can come from anybody, anywhere, anytime. Human
society would tear itself apart trying to secure itself or trying to
grab the scraps of existence before they too are blown up. The killing
would continue until it ran out of people to kill, like a virulent virus
that doesn't die until it has exhausted its host population. By the time
the virus of suicide bombing ran out of participants, humanity would be
no more.

There has been lots of talk on this newsgroup about the threat we face,
and the costs of losing. Well, here it is: we face the threat of having
the building blocks of human existence come unraveled, and the result
would be that the human race would cease to exist. We still don't know
if there are other sentient species on other planets, and we may never
find out. If humanity is truly alone, then its extinction would be the
greatest loss that the universe has known in 20 billion years.


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Old July 14th 05, 05:54 AM
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Has anybody heard The World Today? On 9825 at 0200 they had a report on
the psychology of suicide bombing. Basically, the expert said that the
bombers are disaffected young people fed up with the current social and
religious constructs under which they live, and subsceptible to utopian
dreams. When the promise of 72 virgins in Paradise for eternity is
compared to what they see around them on the earthly plane, Paradise
starts looking pretty damn good. They also mentioned that in Iraq
different factions of Muslims are going into the mosques of the opposing
faction and blowing themselves up.

What all this adds up to is that no place is safe, and everybody between
the ages of 13 and 25 is a potential terrorist. It's the same impulse
that gave birth to the 60s counterculture, only much more damaging. What
we're talking about is a threat not only to Western Civilization but to
the basic building blocks upon which human interaction is built. If
every teenager in the world decides that suicide bombing is better than
earthly living, and the goal is simply to kill as many people as
possible wherever and whenever they may be found, then the human race is
probably doomed.

We each go out into the world trusting that the people around us are not
out to blow us up. Imagine if children start killing their parents, if
bombs go off on school buses, if life becomes one long litany of death
and destruction that can come from anybody, anywhere, anytime. Human
society would tear itself apart trying to secure itself or trying to
grab the scraps of existence before they too are blown up. The killing
would continue until it ran out of people to kill, like a virulent virus
that doesn't die until it has exhausted its host population. By the time
the virus of suicide bombing ran out of participants, humanity would be
no more.

There has been lots of talk on this newsgroup about the threat we face,
and the costs of losing. Well, here it is: we face the threat of having
the building blocks of human existence come unraveled, and the result
would be that the human race would cease to exist. We still don't know
if there are other sentient species on other planets, and we may never
find out. If humanity is truly alone, then its extinction would be the
greatest loss that the universe has known in 20 billion years.


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I've tried to come up with a reason with the strange behavior not only for
the terrorists but for crimes commited in our societies lately. I thought
about environmental polutants or the many microwaves flying thru the air has
had some affect on the human brain itself altering it's normal thinking
process.

Then I thought it might be that mans brain has reached an evolutionary
process where it can no longer "cope" with the data of it's own existance.
Religion, politics, war, death, the internet, pornography, our search for
pleasure, greed, all have jaded and desensitized us in all apsects of life.

Existence now is not what it was just 30 years ago. It seems our brains
can't solve our new problems or deal with them. People are literally "going
insane"

Lucky


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Old July 14th 05, 12:24 PM
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"running dogg" wrote in message
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What all this adds up to is that no place is safe, and everybody between
the ages of 13 and 25 is a potential terrorist.


Interestingly, one of the suspects in the London bombings was 30 years old,
and had a wife and young daughter. You'd think he'd have everything to live
for. Sad.

Mark.
Auckland
New Zealand.


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Old July 14th 05, 10:02 PM
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Old July 15th 05, 03:43 AM
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"running dogg" wrote

By the way, communism and Wahhabi Islam have
nothing to do with each other, something your one track mind and Red
colored glasses can't seem to comprehend. Al Qaeda was born out of the
fight against Afghan Communism.


Oh really!!? You must work for the NSA. BwahaHAHAHAHAhahaha... (fade to
eerie silence)




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Old July 15th 05, 05:19 AM
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1iChangchun wrote:


"running dogg" wrote

By the way, communism and Wahhabi Islam have
nothing to do with each other, something your one track mind and Red
colored glasses can't seem to comprehend. Al Qaeda was born out of the
fight against Afghan Communism.


Oh really!!? You must work for the NSA. BwahaHAHAHAHAhahaha... (fade to
eerie silence)


Li, you're getting increasingly mentally unstable. Get help. Does
anybody know what he's referring to, other than the fact that the US
funded the mujahedin in the 80s, only to have it bite us back on 9-11?


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"running dogg" wrote in message
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1iChangchun wrote:


"running dogg" wrote

By the way, communism and Wahhabi Islam have
nothing to do with each other, something your one track mind and Red
colored glasses can't seem to comprehend. Al Qaeda was born out of the
fight against Afghan Communism.


Oh really!!? You must work for the NSA. BwahaHAHAHAHAhahaha... (fade to
eerie silence)


Li, you're getting increasingly mentally unstable. Get help. Does
anybody know what he's referring to, other than the fact that the US
funded the mujahedin in the 80s, only to have it bite us back on 9-11?


It is incredibly hilarious to watch you upchuck these Leftwing propaganda
lines.
It is especially revealing of your character when one knows so much more
than you will ever realize.
BwahaHAHAHAHAhahaha... (fade to eerie silence)





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Old July 15th 05, 11:46 PM
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1iChangchun wrote:


"running dogg" wrote in message
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1iChangchun wrote:


"running dogg" wrote

By the way, communism and Wahhabi Islam have
nothing to do with each other, something your one track mind and Red
colored glasses can't seem to comprehend. Al Qaeda was born out of the
fight against Afghan Communism.


Oh really!!? You must work for the NSA. BwahaHAHAHAHAhahaha... (fade to
eerie silence)


Li, you're getting increasingly mentally unstable. Get help. Does
anybody know what he's referring to, other than the fact that the US
funded the mujahedin in the 80s, only to have it bite us back on 9-11?


It is incredibly hilarious to watch you upchuck these Leftwing propaganda
lines.
It is especially revealing of your character when one knows so much more
than you will ever realize.
BwahaHAHAHAHAhahaha... (fade to eerie silence)


Sure, it was China who sold the mujahedin ****loads of Stinger missiles
and provided all sorts of other support to them. Sure, Islam is just
another form of communism, and Osama worships Mao.


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running dogg wrote:

1iChangchun wrote:


"running dogg" wrote in message
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1iChangchun wrote:


"running dogg" wrote

By the way, communism and Wahhabi Islam have
nothing to do with each other, something your one track mind and Red
colored glasses can't seem to comprehend. Al Qaeda was born out of the
fight against Afghan Communism.


Oh really!!? You must work for the NSA. BwahaHAHAHAHAhahaha... (fade to
eerie silence)

Li, you're getting increasingly mentally unstable. Get help. Does
anybody know what he's referring to, other than the fact that the US
funded the mujahedin in the 80s, only to have it bite us back on 9-11?


It is incredibly hilarious to watch you upchuck these Leftwing propaganda
lines.
It is especially revealing of your character when one knows so much more
than you will ever realize.
BwahaHAHAHAHAhahaha... (fade to eerie silence)


Sure, it was China who sold the mujahedin ****loads of Stinger missiles
and provided all sorts of other support to them. Sure, Islam is just
another form of communism, and Osama worships Mao.


Time to break out my Little Red Book.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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Old July 19th 05, 12:21 AM
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Lucky wrote:


"running dogg" wrote in message
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Has anybody heard The World Today? On 9825 at 0200 they had a report on

(snip my long post)

I've tried to come up with a reason with the strange behavior not only for
the terrorists but for crimes commited in our societies lately. I thought
about environmental polutants or the many microwaves flying thru the air has
had some affect on the human brain itself altering it's normal thinking
process.

Then I thought it might be that mans brain has reached an evolutionary
process where it can no longer "cope" with the data of it's own existance.
Religion, politics, war, death, the internet, pornography, our search for
pleasure, greed, all have jaded and desensitized us in all apsects of life.

Existence now is not what it was just 30 years ago. It seems our brains
can't solve our new problems or deal with them. People are literally "going
insane"


Are you saying that the development of man's technology has outpaced the
development of man's brain to the point that a brain hardwired for a
much simpler, cruder world can't deal with the exponentially increasing
complexities of the modern world? If so, then I'd have to tentatively
agree with you. It would seem to be a function of chaos theory, where a
system that keeps increasing in complexity eventually falls apart from
the centrifugal force of its own uncontrolled expansion. Our brains
developed in a hunter gatherer world, and for 99% of modern Homo Homo
Sapiens's existence, that has been the prevailing norm. Even after the
introduction of agriculture, life was pretty simple and straightforward.
Even 70 years ago like was unhurried and simple, just ask any WW2 vet.
Today we have to "multitask" and be on call 24-7. We're continually
being bombarded with urgent tasks through cell phones and the internet.
Most people feel rushed, can't get enough sleep, and have to work
increasingly harder just to see themselves fall further behind. It seems
that the stress factor of modern life has stretched our brains to the
breaking point and beyond. People work 20 years without any vacations
and sleeping 4 hours a night only to snap and end up locked in a rubber
room for the rest of their lives. It seems that increasing numbers of
people all over the world are snapping under the strain. It is an
article of faith that the human mind is an elastic container that can be
stretched indefinitely, when that is just not the case. Like everything
else, it reaches a point where the strain is too much and it breaks.
Eventually, all of civilization will reach a point where the strain
becomes too much. The Muslim world has already reached that point. With
no way out of their dilemma, the only option left is suicide.


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