On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:33:53 GMT, David wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:58:39 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:



Well, for example, I am not a racist.

Everyone is. It's natural to have an affinity for your own race.

I would like to know your own definition of "affinity", but in its
original sense, "afinity for your own race" is certainly not the same
as racism. Racism is hatred for other races.

That's why it's hard for white people to tell black people apart.

And hard for black people tell apart white people. But this has again
absolutely nothing to do with racism; this is a well known and often
described phenomenon which deals with the way our brain cognition
processes work: Initially, we perceive only the most fundamental
distinguishing features of objects (and people's faces). Gradually,
when we are closely exposed to more such similar objects (or people's
faces), when the fundamental distinguishing details are no longer
sufficient, then we automatically add finer and finer details. As if
our brain first tries to minimize the necessary amount of descriptive
information attached to visual cues, only the bare minimum needed to
enable us to distinguish one set of features from the other, then adds
more and more as required for sufficient recognition.

For example, when I first saw an Asian, many years ago, I could not
determine if I was looking at a Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Thai or
Korean, etc. - to me all Asians were looking the same. Now I can
determine this very easily, in fact easier than (for example) a
Vietnamese who never left his country. And as I have made more friends
amongst Asians, and some of my best friends are in fact Asian, I have
of course no problems at all distinguishing their faces.

Otherwise, it's a popular perception.

What exactly?

That Europeans are crazy and dangerous.

Which European countries have you been to? I don't find them in any
way more crazy and dangerous than most other peoples. Certainly very
much less so than radical Islamic immigrants in their midst.

If we stop buying their bananas, they will suffer even more.
And we are not "carting them away". We are buying them. The point is
that their corrupt governments steal the proceeds from their own
people - and then put them in our banks because they can't even trust
their own.

Therefore, we are complicit with their opressors. Like the Al Sauds.

Damned if we do (help), damned if we don't. In Afghanistand and Iraq,
we certainly did. We can't do it all, and we can't do it all at once.

Peter Newman

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:15:49 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-
Function: noun
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and
capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority
of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

Damned if we do (help), damned if we don't. In Afghanistand and Iraq,
we certainly did. We can't do it all, and we can't do it all at once.

Peter Newman

We should quit making deals with bad guys who oppress their own
people. We need to learn to live in a sustainable manner, within our
means, in harmony with nature.

Otherwise, doom city.

In article ,
running dogg wrote:

Sudan is run by Muslims, mostly of Arab descent. There are Christians in
Sudan, but they're an oppressed minority, as are the blacks (as opposed
to the Arabs, who run things). The people in Darfur who have been
subjected to genocide by Arab Muslims are Black Christians. The Arab

No, both sides in Dafur are Muslims. It's between the Arab pastoralists
raising their livestock, and the African farmers.

Muslims in Sudan have been fighting civil wars against Black Christians
for decades, mostly in the south, but now in the west. One other thing:
Sudan is full of oil, most of which is inaccessible because of the wars.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:52:39 GMT, David wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:15:49 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-
Function: noun
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and
capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority
of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

In that case, do you believe that your race is inherently superior? In
which particular regard(s)?

Damned if we do (help), damned if we don't. In Afghanistand and Iraq,
we certainly did. We can't do it all, and we can't do it all at once.

Peter Newman

We should quit making deals with bad guys who oppress their own
people. We need to learn to live in a sustainable manner, within our
means, in harmony with nature.


We are a significant part of nature, and we are certainly living in
harmony with it, precisely within our means, perfectly sustainably.
All that noble leftie talk about "unsustainability" is pure hogwash -
designed by power and publicity seekers to make us feel guilty about
ourselves.

Take it easy and enjoy life: It is surely better than it ever was, and
it is getting even better. And do something more productive than
beating everyone around yourself and preaching guilt, loathing and
hatred.

Peter Newman

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:47:16 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:52:39 GMT, David wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:15:49 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-
Function: noun
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and
capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority
of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

In that case, do you believe that your race is inherently superior? In
which particular regard(s)?

Of course not.

We are a significant part of nature, and we are certainly living in
harmony with it, precisely within our means, perfectly sustainably.
All that noble leftie talk about "unsustainability" is pure hogwash -
designed by power and publicity seekers to make us feel guilty about
ourselves.

That sounds faith based.

Take it easy and enjoy life: It is surely better than it ever was, and
it is getting even better. And do something more productive than
beating everyone around yourself and preaching guilt, loathing and
hatred.

You are living in a fantasy construct.

David wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:47:16 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:52:39 GMT, David wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:15:49 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-
Function: noun
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and
capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority
of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

In that case, do you believe that your race is inherently superior? In
which particular regard(s)?

Of course not.

We are a significant part of nature, and we are certainly living in
harmony with it, precisely within our means, perfectly sustainably.
All that noble leftie talk about "unsustainability" is pure hogwash -
designed by power and publicity seekers to make us feel guilty about
ourselves.

That sounds faith based.

Take it easy and enjoy life: It is surely better than it ever was, and
it is getting even better. And do something more productive than
beating everyone around yourself and preaching guilt, loathing and
hatred.

You are living in a fantasy construct.

And you're not?

LMAO @ the 'tard.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:21:54 -0400, dxAce
You are living in a fantasy construct.

And you're not?

LMAO @ the 'tard.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

wrote:
Main Entry: 2con·struct
Pronunciation: 'kän-"str&kt
Function: noun
1 : something constructed by the mind: as a : a theoretical entity
the deductive study of abstract constructs -- Daniel J. Boorstin b :
a working hypothesis or concept a point of view which made "abroad"
singularly containable as a literary construct -- Jonathan Raban c :
a product of mental invention the novel... a verbal construct in
which invented human characters appear -- Anthony Burgess
2 : something produced by human effort the East bloc was always an
unnatural construct -- Walter Isaacson

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:47:48 GMT, David wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:47:16 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:52:39 GMT, David wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:15:49 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-
Function: noun
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and
capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority
of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

In that case, do you believe that your race is inherently superior? In
which particular regard(s)?

Of course not.

"Of course"? That's really good. In that case, how do you justify your
earlier statement about "crazy white guys"?

We are a significant part of nature, and we are certainly living in
harmony with it, precisely within our means, perfectly sustainably.
All that noble leftie talk about "unsustainability" is pure hogwash -
designed by power and publicity seekers to make us feel guilty about
ourselves.

That sounds faith based.

Firstly, it is up to those who make claims for us to be blindly
believed such unsustainability, the benefits of this mysterious
"harmony with nature", etc., to prove they are not faith-based. I
don't make any such claims which would require a proof. The onus of
proof is on the other side.

Secondly, there is a lot of objective scientific evidence to show that
all this fashionable alarmist talk about unsustainability is a
hogwash, and the romantic notions about "harmony with nature" are not
grounded in reality (and never were at any given time in the past).
But I am sure you would not want to hear the truth.

There are many folks who seem to loathe the society they are living
in, yet enjoying all its benefits; full of a pent-up anger and
inferiority complex, looking for an outlet. If you ever develop a
heart problem, I suggest you to go to a witch doctor, perfectly in
harmony with nature. Just avoid the "crazy white guy's" science at all
cost.

Take it easy and enjoy life: It is surely better than it ever was, and
it is getting even better. And do something more productive than
beating everyone around yourself and preaching guilt, loathing and
hatred.

You are living in a fantasy construct.

It would have been enough to say simply "you are living in a fantasy",
or "you are living in a fantasy world". But you just had to use the
oh-so-fashionable (in the leftie world) word "construct", didn't you.
It makes you look oh-so-smart!

I guess it's OK if you are content to *look* smart instead of *be*
smart.

Peter Newman

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:09:33 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:

Are you a Dominionist?

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:32:53 GMT, David wrote:

Are you a Dominionist?

No, I don't see the need for a human of a sound mind to subscribe to
any religion at all. (Sadly, unlike most; including yourself, it
would seem.) I rely solely on reason, logic and the scientific
method. You might perhaps say that I am an objectivist.

Peter Newman