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google kisses up to fed govt too much.
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Most of their money google contributed/donated to politicians went to
democrats.Tell the World,Boycott google! cuhulin |
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:29:05 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote: I don't think the worst case scenerio, thousands of miles of HV power distribution wires carrying high speed digital signals, was ever practical. There's interference, there's unpredictable reflections and, even in the most optimistic case, the available bandwidth won't split among alot of users and still be high speed. There are other approaches which promise to cause much less interference, although I think the real motovation is to minimize BPL's vunerabilities: http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2005/05/23/1/ Frank Dresser Won't WiMax accomplish the same thing more cheaper? |
I'm pretty sure that Cold War propaganda has, aren't you?
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On 4 Aug 2005 08:59:35 -0700, wrote:
I'm pretty sure that Cold War propaganda has, aren't you? The propaganda today is much more insidious. |
David wrote: On 4 Aug 2005 08:59:35 -0700, wrote: I'm pretty sure that Cold War propaganda has, aren't you? The propaganda today is much more insidious. To my knowledge, no one here has denied that, or even offered an opinion on it one way or the other. |
On 2005-08-02 15:46:46 -0400, "Mike Terry" said:
Why are there so few on topic postings on this newsgroup? Is shortwave dying like stamp collecting and other hobbies of the past? How many times a year do we need to see this same freaking post??? The answer is NO. I'm sure stamp collectors are laughing at it as well... -- Chris: "Dad, what's a blowhole for?" Peter: "I'll tell you what it's NOT for and then you'll know why I can never go back to Sea World." |
Speaking of stamps,did any of y'all notice the U.S.post office issued
some of them with exact replicas of the nazi eagle on them.Did any of y'all buy any of those stamps? I did not! cuhulin |
In article ,
says... Why are there so few on topic postings on this newsgroup? Is shortwave dying like stamp collecting and other hobbies of the past? I don't think Shortwave is dying at all, neither is ham radio. There are still a lot of places on this old planet where the Internet is still not readily available, so for news and entertainment the shortwave receiver is still pretty much the only method of delivery. Same goes for some places where the government is restrictive in what it will let the people see in their regular media, or even on the Internet -- China is actively filtering access to the Web within that country, for example. There may be less discussion about it here on the 'Net but that's not a very accurate indicator of the medium worldwide. The people who depend on shortwave are the same people who either don't have access to the Internet or who are restricted in what they can get to on the 'Net by their government, hence they don't get into the discussions on RRS here.... (Stamp collecting may be in a bit of a decline, but that's a subject for a different news group.) -- -- //Steve// Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS Fountain Valley, CA Email: |
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says... In china,sometimes, the radio is the only way to know the outside. Same for some other countries with totalitarian regimes -- Cuba comes to mind first. There's also the matter of simple geographic isolation, such as places in Africa or Central Asia. Shortwave gets the message through when other more technological means are simply not available, or are limited. Here's one example: I work for Wycliffe Associates (see www.wycliffeassociates.org), an organization which mobilizes volunteers to assist the people in Wycliffe Bible Translators in getting things done, so that the translators can concentrate on translating and not worry about building buildings and such. Many of our overseas locations have some limited Internet capability, but VERY limited in bandwidth -- most dial-up users here in the States get faster throughput, in fact. Due to that limitation, the Internet connection there is pretty much dedicated to necessary uses only. Surfing the Web for news and such falls pretty low on the priority list. Due to geographic isolation, it's pretty hard to have the New York Times delivered ;-) so what else is left but shortwave? -- -- //Steve// Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS Fountain Valley, CA Email: |
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says... Mike Terry wrote: Why are there so few on topic postings on this newsgroup? Is shortwave dying like stamp collecting and other hobbies of the past? Is stamp collecting dying? I know people don't use stamps as much as they once did, since they don't use the regular mail as much as they once did. However, I'd expect this to be a boon to stamp collecting, as it makes stamps much more 'collectible'. The next time you decide to troll rec.radio.shortwave, I suggest you get your facts straight. As a stamp collector, I'll tell you what I know. The number of collectors is somewhat in decline, and the average age is rising. Very similar to ham radio, in fact. However, that's looking at hobby collectors. There are other "collectors" who are looking at philately more as an investment, and those are in fact increasing. So it depends on your point of view as to the validity of the claim that stamp collecting is in decline. -- -- //Steve// Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS Fountain Valley, CA Email: |
In article .com,
says... Adding to the mix is the increasing cost of oil, Oil generated Electricity and hence Shortwave transmissions.. BUT, WBCQ, 7.415 Monticello Maine looks to be in the vanguard, putting up Wind Turbines, which will probably let it become a Net generator of Electricity. I believe HCJB is doing something along the same lines, with hydroelectric power, in Ecuador. Or at least, that's what I remember hearing once on the station. I could be wrong. They say the memory is the second thing to go as you get older -- I can't remember what the first one is.... ;-) -- -- //Steve// Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS Fountain Valley, CA Email: |
If Shortwave dies,what would folks use for emergency communications if
the you know what hits the fan big time? I hope Shortwave never dies. cuhulin |
Screw the oil!,, lets make oil out of politicians U.S.A.will never run
out of poliicians. cuhulin |
Some Stamps (and I only baseing this in my opinion) are getting more and
more valuable.Stamp Collectors are nothing sneeze at,am I right? cuhulin |
Steve Silverwood wrote: In article , says... Why are there so few on topic postings on this newsgroup? Is shortwave dying like stamp collecting and other hobbies of the past? I don't think Shortwave is dying at all, neither is ham radio. There are still a lot of places on this old planet where the Internet is still not readily available, so for news and entertainment the shortwave receiver is still pretty much the only method of delivery. Same goes for some places where the government is restrictive in what it will let the people see in their regular media, or even on the Internet -- China is actively filtering access to the Web within that country, for example. There may be less discussion about it here on the 'Net but that's not a very accurate indicator of the medium worldwide. The people who depend on shortwave are the same people who either don't have access to the Internet or who are restricted in what they can get to on the 'Net by their government, hence they don't get into the discussions on RRS here.... (Stamp collecting may be in a bit of a decline, but that's a subject for a different news group.) -- -- //Steve// Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS Fountain Valley, CA Email: I agree. Shortwave has been writhing on its deathbed for as long as I can remember. It will remain there, writhing away, for many, many generations into the future. Just wait and see. 200 years from now people will still be debating whether or not shortwave has a future. |
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David wrote: On 16 Aug 2005 11:35:45 -0700, wrote: I agree. Shortwave has been writhing on its deathbed for as long as I can remember. It will remain there, writhing away, for many, many generations into the future. Just wait and see. 200 years from now people will still be debating whether or not shortwave has a future. That's ridiculous. Uh-uh. The only thing ridiculous here is YOU 'tard. Now go tote it, boy. dxAce Michigan USA |
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David wrote: On 16 Aug 2005 11:35:45 -0700, wrote: I agree. Shortwave has been writhing on its deathbed for as long as I can remember. It will remain there, writhing away, for many, many generations into the future. Just wait and see. 200 years from now people will still be debating whether or not shortwave has a future. That's ridiculous. Uh-uh. The only thing ridiculous here is YOU 'tard. Now go tote it, boy. dxAce Michigan USA I think that abortion he was involved in sucked his brains out. lol B.H. |
Brian Hill wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David wrote: On 16 Aug 2005 11:35:45 -0700, wrote: I agree. Shortwave has been writhing on its deathbed for as long as I can remember. It will remain there, writhing away, for many, many generations into the future. Just wait and see. 200 years from now people will still be debating whether or not shortwave has a future. That's ridiculous. Uh-uh. The only thing ridiculous here is YOU 'tard. Now go tote it, boy. dxAce Michigan USA I think that abortion he was involved in sucked his brains out. lol Either that or the transplant didn't go very well. dxAce Michigan USA |
Did someone say something about major broadcasters? I certainly didn't.
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dxAce wrote:
That's ridiculous. Uh-uh. The only thing ridiculous here is YOU 'tard. Not so. He is but a mere shadow of *you*, his Master. Now go BORE it, Bozo. mike |
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 20:46:46 +0100, "Mike Terry"
wrote: Why are there so few on topic postings on this newsgroup? Is shortwave dying like stamp collecting and other hobbies of the past? When I got into shortwave listeniing around 1973, it wasn't popular then. People around me preferred a solid 24/7 AM or FM signal to the fading in and out of SW and formats that were just a general 1-3 hour service. SW was added as an after thought to most cheap portables. Telescopic antennas and dial slider tuning that would whisk past 6 bands in one sweep. Anyone really into the hobby wanted a longwire and a "serious" $150+ rig, something anyone in any country saturated with AM/FM stations of any format did not care for. While it may have popular in the 1930s to 1960s, magazines like Popular Electronics started dropping their SW columns as the computing hobby gained steam. The growth of the Internet has cut into SWBC. Most can stream their signals to such users and they want to leave SW to outlying regions that still use it as a means of contact. Times just change. SWBC is not going away completely, just as newspapers won't. Gene |
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Gene wrote: On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 20:46:46 +0100, "Mike Terry" wrote: Why are there so few on topic postings on this newsgroup? Is shortwave dying like stamp collecting and other hobbies of the past? When I got into shortwave listeniing around 1973, it wasn't popular then. People around me preferred a solid 24/7 AM or FM signal to the fading in and out of SW and formats that were just a general 1-3 hour service. SW was added as an after thought to most cheap portables. Telescopic antennas and dial slider tuning that would whisk past 6 bands in one sweep. Anyone really into the hobby wanted a longwire and a "serious" $150+ rig, something anyone in any country saturated with AM/FM stations of any format did not care for. While it may have popular in the 1930s to 1960s, magazines like Popular Electronics started dropping their SW columns as the computing hobby gained steam. The growth of the Internet has cut into SWBC. Most can stream their signals to such users and they want to leave SW to outlying regions that still use it as a means of contact. Times just change. SWBC is not going away completely, just as newspapers won't. Every time anything exciting happens anywhere in the world the servers FAIL. They just can't handle the number of interested people. Even the BBC servers can't keep up and at the NORMAL connection rate the sound sucks due to the dismally low audio sampling rate. SW sounds much better. I stopped listening to their computer audio feed because it sounded so bad. I've been into SW since I was a teenager and my computer interests have not supplanted SW radio at all. I am usually listening to SW on the SW radio while on the computer and connection is plenty fast to stream audio and do several other things at the same time. I was listening to Australia on 21,740 and now 17,715. I was listening to Japan and Netherlands earlier this morning on the SW radio. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 00:46:03 GMT, Telamon
wrote: Every time anything exciting happens anywhere in the world the servers FAIL. They just can't handle the number of interested people. Even the BBC servers can't keep up and at the NORMAL connection rate the sound sucks due to the dismally low audio sampling rate. SW sounds much better. I stopped listening to their computer audio feed because it sounded so bad. Hi Telemon I havn't tried my DSL connection under those conditions, but I'm just looking at the SWBC'ers logic of cutting SW programming for streaming audio. Personally I don't want to be at my laptop all the time and I keep the YB400 by my side. I've been into SW since I was a teenager and my computer interests have not supplanted SW radio at all. I am usually listening to SW on the SW radio while on the computer and connection is plenty fast to stream audio and do several other things at the same time. I was listening to Australia on 21,740 and now 17,715. I was listening to Japan and Netherlands earlier this morning on the SW radio. Right, a lot of good signals out there. Radio Australia and Radio New Zealand (15720) are my favorites. I just don't chase the DX like I used to. I'm up the road in Berkeley. Gene |
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Gene wrote: On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 00:46:03 GMT, Telamon wrote: Every time anything exciting happens anywhere in the world the servers FAIL. They just can't handle the number of interested people. Even the BBC servers can't keep up and at the NORMAL connection rate the sound sucks due to the dismally low audio sampling rate. SW sounds much better. I stopped listening to their computer audio feed because it sounded so bad. Hi Telemon I havn't tried my DSL connection under those conditions, but I'm just looking at the SWBC'ers logic of cutting SW programming for streaming audio. Personally I don't want to be at my laptop all the time and I keep the YB400 by my side. I've been into SW since I was a teenager and my computer interests have not supplanted SW radio at all. I am usually listening to SW on the SW radio while on the computer and connection is plenty fast to stream audio and do several other things at the same time. I was listening to Australia on 21,740 and now 17,715. I was listening to Japan and Netherlands earlier this morning on the SW radio. Right, a lot of good signals out there. Radio Australia and Radio New Zealand (15720) are my favorites. I just don't chase the DX like I used to. I'm up the road in Berkeley. I was never big on DXing, just a program listener here. I just like this SW radio technology where I can cut out the middle man. I have spent to much of my life reading news papers and magazines where some reporter tells me what people in other countries are thinking. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
"Telamon" wrote in message I was never big on DXing, just a program listener here. I just like this SW radio technology where I can cut out the middle man. I have spent to much of my life reading news papers and magazines where some reporter tells me what people in other countries are thinking. -- Telamon Ventura, California It definitely helps clean out the mind Tel and get a little closer to understanding the bigger picture around the globe. I myself love to DX anything i.e. domestic, clandestine, pirates, utility, mil ops, hams etc... You name it. I remember going camping and hunting with the family up in the Sierra Nevada's and I would go listen to the am radio in dads truck and what got my DXing started was late one night, I imagine it was 12:00? or so I got a station in Chicago and I can't remember what station but I told Dad- hey what's up with this and he explained in simple terms why and he said if your into this you should check out shortwave. Been hooked ever since. I'll be very bummed if shortwave ever did KO. I'd almost rather die on the very last day of the last great skip carrying the last program. Write it on my tombstone. : ) -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm |
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"Brian Hill" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message I was never big on DXing, just a program listener here. I just like this SW radio technology where I can cut out the middle man. I have spent to much of my life reading news papers and magazines where some reporter tells me what people in other countries are thinking. -- Telamon Ventura, California It definitely helps clean out the mind Tel and get a little closer to understanding the bigger picture around the globe. I myself love to DX anything i.e. domestic, clandestine, pirates, utility, mil ops, hams etc... You name it. I remember going camping and hunting with the family up in the Sierra Nevada's and I would go listen to the am radio in dads truck and what got my DXing started was late one night, I imagine it was 12:00? or so I got a station in Chicago and I can't remember what station but I told Dad- hey what's up with this and he explained in simple terms why and he said if your into this you should check out shortwave. Been hooked ever since. I'll be very bummed if shortwave ever did KO. I'd almost rather die on the very last day of the last great skip carrying the last program. Write it on my tombstone. : ) Receiving distant stations is always exciting it's just that I'm not into the verifications and scoring how many countries I have heard. Keeping score was not a interest but improving reception was a goal. Better antennas and radios are the answer. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "Brian Hill" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message I was never big on DXing, just a program listener here. I just like this SW radio technology where I can cut out the middle man. I have spent to much of my life reading news papers and magazines where some reporter tells me what people in other countries are thinking. -- Telamon Ventura, California It definitely helps clean out the mind Tel and get a little closer to understanding the bigger picture around the globe. I myself love to DX anything i.e. domestic, clandestine, pirates, utility, mil ops, hams etc... You name it. I remember going camping and hunting with the family up in the Sierra Nevada's and I would go listen to the am radio in dads truck and what got my DXing started was late one night, I imagine it was 12:00? or so I got a station in Chicago and I can't remember what station but I told Dad- hey what's up with this and he explained in simple terms why and he said if your into this you should check out shortwave. Been hooked ever since. I'll be very bummed if shortwave ever did KO. I'd almost rather die on the very last day of the last great skip carrying the last program. Write it on my tombstone. : ) Receiving distant stations is always exciting it's just that I'm not into the verifications and scoring how many countries I have heard. Keeping score was not a interest but improving reception was a goal. Better antennas and radios are the answer. -- Telamon Ventura, California I don't do much qsling anymore. I sometimes record what I hear and enter that into my log. -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm |
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