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Old August 3rd 05, 06:30 PM
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Hi Lucky,

I am glad you are happy with the E1. I hope you don't feel bad if I
say
I am a little skeptical, so I will ask this question in the most
innocent way:
What other radios do you have/have you played with?

Many thanks for your informative reviews. They are helpful.

RK

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Old August 3rd 05, 07:04 PM
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"rkhalona" wrote in message
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Hi Lucky,

I am glad you are happy with the E1. I hope you don't feel bad if I
say
I am a little skeptical, so I will ask this question in the most
innocent way:
What other radios do you have/have you played with?

Many thanks for your informative reviews. They are helpful.

RK


Thanks RK.

I now own 11 radios.

1] Icom R75
2] Lowe HF-150
3] Kenwood R-5000
4] JRC NRD-525
5] FRG-7
6] Ten Tec 320-D
7] FRG-7700
8] Degen 1103
9] Nasa Target HF3 {Nav-Fax 100 in U.S.}
10] Great Cond Kenwood QR-666 that later became the R-300.
11] Eton E1

So, I have a sense of quality and features etc. But, I'm not a super pro
like some of the other guys in here that have been doing this for years.

Lucky


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Old August 3rd 05, 09:49 PM
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Hi Lucky...

Thanks for your input on the E1. I'm curious to know how this radio is
on battery consumption, so if you run it off of cells, let us know how
it is with regard to battery drain. Is the display always illuminated,
even on battery power?

I've had my eye on the E1 for quite some time and anticipate eventually
buying one. It's good to see Eton reviving this class of radio. If
it's all it purports to be, then it seems that its performance could
well be a notch or two above the '2010, SW77, and Sat 700. The $500
price tag might seem a bit much to foot, but let's face it, it's not a
matter of whether or not its performance is superior to a similarly
priced R-75 but rather whether one is in need of a high quality and
truly-portable portable, laden with numerous features not to be found
in the under $200 class that dominates the portable scene. Let's face
it, the SW77 retailed at $469.96 in its day (and it only had two
bandwidth filters and certainly had no passband offset). For folks
like me, where indoor conditions are a nightmare due to local noise
conditions, something like the E1 is a godsend: a nice, state of the
art, fully featured, self-contained portable, sized such that it can
easily be carried along on outdoor listening excursions.
I guess that with the XM option available for this receiver, it's
inevitable that this radio will take the heat of the sat-radio
opponents of this group. Personally, I would have preferred Sirius
over XM with this radio... I'm a Sirius subscriber myself, but it's
not as though this in any way diminishes my enthusiasm for shortwave.

All the best, folks.

Thanks again, Lucky.

j.a.mulc.

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Old August 3rd 05, 10:00 PM
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jamulc wrote:

Hi Lucky...

Thanks for your input on the E1. I'm curious to know how this radio is
on battery consumption, so if you run it off of cells, let us know how
it is with regard to battery drain. Is the display always illuminated,
even on battery power?

I've had my eye on the E1 for quite some time and anticipate eventually
buying one. It's good to see Eton reviving this class of radio. If
it's all it purports to be, then it seems that its performance could
well be a notch or two above the '2010, SW77, and Sat 700. The $500
price tag might seem a bit much to foot, but let's face it, it's not a
matter of whether or not its performance is superior to a similarly
priced R-75 but rather whether one is in need of a high quality and
truly-portable portable, laden with numerous features not to be found
in the under $200 class that dominates the portable scene. Let's face
it, the SW77 retailed at $469.96 in its day (and it only had two
bandwidth filters and certainly had no passband offset). For folks
like me, where indoor conditions are a nightmare due to local noise
conditions, something like the E1 is a godsend: a nice, state of the
art, fully featured, self-contained portable, sized such that it can
easily be carried along on outdoor listening excursions.
I guess that with the XM option available for this receiver, it's
inevitable that this radio will take the heat of the sat-radio
opponents of this group.


I don't think anyone is really an opponent of satellite 'radio'... it's just
that it's not shortwave...

Get it?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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Old August 3rd 05, 11:10 PM
 
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I know it's too early to tell yet,but I wonder how trouble free the
radio will be over the years,perhaps ten to 15 years or more,for that
much money they should last forever.Some radios y'all own and talk
about,it seems to me they have to be sent off somewhere (Sangean radio's
front panels come to mind) too often for repair service and that cost
more money if the radio is out of warranty,or if still in warranty,(dont
forget to fill out the warranty cards and send them in or do it online)
at least for shipping and handling charges.
cuhulin



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Old August 5th 05, 01:35 PM
 
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jamulc wrote:

If
it's all it purports to be, then it seems that its performance could
well be a notch or two above the '2010, SW77, and Sat 700.


I'll be surprised if this turns out to be the case, but I'd love to be
surprised! I really hope this is correct.

The $500
price tag might seem a bit much to foot, but let's face it, it's not a
matter of whether or not its performance is superior to a similarly
priced R-75 but rather whether one is in need of a high quality and
truly-portable portable, laden with numerous features not to be found
in the under $200 class that dominates the portable scene.


Given what I've heard so far about its lack of a handle, size and
overall construction, it doesn't sound like something you'd want to lug
around a lot.


Let's face
it, the SW77 retailed at $469.96 in its day (and it only had two
bandwidth filters and certainly had no passband offset).


Very true. And as much as I love the SW77--as it's an excellent
portable--there's no way in *(&^ is should have sold for $469.96. But
note: it wouldn't have been worth more money if it had had more filters
and a passband offset. We think about these features as though they can
be slapped onto just any radio and function properly, but in my
experience this just isn't so. Put four filters on just about any
portable and you will not have a significantly better radio. You have
to have an underlying receiver that can do justice to these features.
This is my beef with the way a lot of portables are marketed and sold.
They have all kinds of junk on them in the way of "features", but all
of these really cool features are attached to....a mediocre radio that
can't even begin to do them justice. Frankly, I'd rather not have all
the bells and whistles if they're just going to be useless appendages;
and if the manufacturer skipped the bells and whistles, they'd probably
be able to sell you the receiver at a reasonable price.

Steve

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Old August 5th 05, 04:28 PM
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hi...

Ultimately, it'll be a matter of waitin' and seein' if the E1 does
indeed perform well in all it aims to do. Because I can help but to
have my own doubt in this regard, I'd be hesitant to be one of the
first to run out and buy one.

As regards the size/portability issue, I can certainly appreciate your
opinion on this matter, Steve, especially given the many compact and
micro-sized portables out there nowadays. For me, the E1's size and
lack of handle is no real issue: I regularly carry an SW8, antenna,
etc to remote areas to get in some quality listening in a less
noise-filled environment. For that matter, I frequently do the same
with the SW77, which I carry in one of those Pelican 1450 cases (nice
fit for the SW77 and accessories). For the E1, it's simply a matter of
getting a new foam insert for the case and picking & plucking for the
E1's size specifications. But then, that won't happen until I'm
assured of the quality and performance of this product.

And, sure, there's no need to give any thought to the various features
if, beneath it all, the radio itself simply isn't up to par. That's
why I'm really keen on seeing some mag reviews, as well as additional
user opinions posted on this receiver. I have to say, though, that
it's good to see a portable receiver being provided with such features
as passband offset and more than two bandwidth filters. I would like
to see more such performance-related features being added to portables.
For too long, it has been a tiresome reality that the only reason to
upgrade from one portable to the next has been that the new model has
an additional 100 or so memories to leave empty. So, in designing the
E2 or whatever successor model there may be (if any at all), it'd be
nice if the Eton folks would consider giving us a notch filter, as
well...

Best,

j.a.mulc.

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Old August 5th 05, 06:17 PM
 
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But,will an E1 radio,without an external antenna pick up that radio
station in Monticello,Mississippi from over here on the West side of
Jackson,Mississippi in the daytime? Look it up in a Rand McNalley road
atlas.Monticello isn't that far from Jackson.
cuhulin

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Old August 5th 05, 04:06 AM
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"Lucky" wrote in message
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"rkhalona" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi Lucky,

I am glad you are happy with the E1. I hope you don't feel bad if I
say
I am a little skeptical, so I will ask this question in the most
innocent way:
What other radios do you have/have you played with?

Many thanks for your informative reviews. They are helpful.

RK


Thanks RK.

I now own 11 radios.

1] Icom R75
2] Lowe HF-150
3] Kenwood R-5000
4] JRC NRD-525
5] FRG-7
6] Ten Tec 320-D
7] FRG-7700
8] Degen 1103
9] Nasa Target HF3 {Nav-Fax 100 in U.S.}
10] Great Cond Kenwood QR-666 that later became the R-300.
11] Eton E1


What, no SAT 800?


So, I have a sense of quality and features etc. But, I'm not a super pro
like some of the other guys in here that have been doing this for years.

Lucky



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Old August 5th 05, 03:16 PM
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"DeWayne" wrote in message
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"Lucky" wrote in message
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"rkhalona" wrote in message
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Hi Lucky,

I am glad you are happy with the E1. I hope you don't feel bad

if I
say
I am a little skeptical, so I will ask this question in the most
innocent way:
What other radios do you have/have you played with?

Many thanks for your informative reviews. They are helpful.

RK


Thanks RK.

I now own 11 radios.

1] Icom R75
2] Lowe HF-150
3] Kenwood R-5000
4] JRC NRD-525
5] FRG-7
6] Ten Tec 320-D
7] FRG-7700
8] Degen 1103
9] Nasa Target HF3 {Nav-Fax 100 in U.S.}
10] Great Cond Kenwood QR-666 that later became the R-300.
11] Eton E1


What, no SAT 800?


Ha. I rather don't think he needs one.

I'm curious about comparisons between 1), 3) and 4).
I already know about the audio on 2), and I'm not that
interested on 5) through 11), but the Icom, Kenwood
and JRC are the interesting ones for me.


So, I have a sense of quality and features etc. But, I'm not a

super pro
like some of the other guys in here that have been doing this for

years.

You've still got enough radios, tho. If I had that many
around the house, my wife would probably demand that
I give a few up.

--Mike L.




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