On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 01:21:50 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:


Ok, Mr. "Goldwater Republican"! Perhaps you can explain your understanding
of what control(s) and/or influence(s) the "founding documents" have on
today's free-market economy? Please be kind enough to advise which specific
"founding document(s)" you base your personal understanding on. Something
in your own words would be nice, though I will understand if you want to
try and sneak in a bit of copy you lifted off some web site. After all, I
rather doubt you have even a general understanding of the subject. Don't
wear yourself out -- Two or three knowledgable paragraphs would be
sufficient.

It would be appreciated if everyone else would be patient and allow rickets
to demonstrate he has a solid grasp of the subject matter. Let's see what
he comes up with, eh? Perhaps this is his strongest subject!

-=jd=-
You are way too hostile. Cool off a little bit and maybe we can talk.

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 02:34:54 GMT, "Jeff"
wrote:


What does the founding documents have to do with the price of
eggs??? The government does not, should not be involved in private
industry. ????????????????????????????????????


Our Revolution was started because of predatory pricing by
multinational corporations, in cahoots with the government, forcing
local entenpreneurs out of business.

The government's tax structure should benefit domestic companies and
punish those who use slave labor in Third World countries.

Fair Trade = Good

Free Trade = Bad

Seems to me =jd= is a pretty cool guy and he is very paitent and he sums
things up very well.I am not kissing up,I am only saying it like it is.
cuhulin

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:56:51 -0500, wrote:

Seems to me =jd= is a pretty cool guy and he is very paitent and he sums
things up very well.I am not kissing up,I am only saying it like it is.
cuhulin

He's a typical ''in the bubble'' hot-head. He thinks if he gets mad
it makes his arguments more logical.

Faith-based politics is a one-way ticket to Hell.

I do NOT agree with raiseing other "nations" standards of anything!
cuhulin

You're selfish *******, ain't yeh?

Bruce Jensen

rickets,,,,,, awwww,ferget it!
cuhulin

Yep.Mr.Jensen.What do you think about those bush third worlders in Long
Island,New York (I love New York) running their sewage down the streets?
Yeah,I am selfish.Sue Me!
cuhulin

Yep.Mr.Jensen.What do you think about those bush third worlders in Long
Island,New York (I love New York) running their sewage down the
streets?
Yeah,I am selfish.Sue Me!
cuhulin

Well, that exactly makes my point. If, assuming we in the US are on a
stable footing economically, can afford to help third world nations get
a leg up, we *might* accomplish a couple of things:

(1) Make their lives better - we're good guys;
(2) Help them take pride in their own living conditions - less sewage
in the streets;
(3) Make it palatable for them to stay in their own countries,
*helping* to solve both our own border security problems and homeland
overpopulation potential.

Once they reach a higher standard, we can then begin to deal with them
like the humans they are instead of as a scary potential plague.

This approach has been tried in some coastal desert African nations,
and so far the results have been quite positive - formerly starving
people now have enough food grown by ecologically benign means, plus
enough to sell or barter to others, AND they have, for the first time
in their lives, free time to enjoy life a little bit instead of
groveling for every cockroach every minute of the day. Cost to
civilized nations footing the bill - minimal. Potential benefits in
long term to entire region - enormous.

I'm not saying it will work everywhere - but every mouth fed with
healthy food today is another stomach that won't be desperate tomorrow,
and that can't be all bad.

Bruce Jensen

Mr.Jensen,respectably,I say NUKE them a..holes.Is there sewage runnin
down the streets here in Jackson,Mississippi? You come show me!
cuhulin

They hate our guts.
cuhulin

I Dont go for your namby pamby BullS..t!,,, Mr.Jensen.
cuhulin

Mr.Jensen,respectably,I say NUKE them a..holes.Is there sewage runnin
down the streets here in Jackson,Mississippi? You come show me!
cuhulin

Nuke the starving Africans?

Swell.

Bruce

I Dont go for your namby pamby BullS..t!,,, Mr.Jensen.
cuhulin

Yeah, the milk of human kindness can be pretty annoying, I know.

Bruce Jensen

Oh, and by the way, Cuhulin - in case you haven't noticed, many of the
people on this newsgroup think you're a creep and treat you badly. In
my response, except for the ribbing about calling you a "selfish
*******," I've been pretty decent and have tried to treat you like the
thinking person I believe you to be. If you want to reap respect, sow
a bit of the same.

I related an idea that not only suggests that we could help
impoverished people with little hope of survival, but also do ourselves
a big favor by making them LESS jealous and likely to "hate our guts,"
as well as make them want to remain in their own nations, and you
dimiss it as *my* namby-pamby BullS..t. I didn't invent the idea, nor
did I make it work, but I have the brain and eyes to recognize a
potentially promising idea when I see it.

Call it what you want, but I see my country getting overcrowded with
people who are desperate to leave their own - they bring with them
their own customs about having massive families they can't support
properly, and that makes the problem worse. I value what little elbow
room I have left here in America, and I value living among insutrious
people who can successfully support themselves without excessive
government payouts (American industry is another story). I think you
do, too. What these ideas propose is a lot cheaper than bombing the
destitute to oblivion (you can feed 1,000,000 impoverished Africans or
Asians or anybody forever for the price of one bomb), and it will help
to improve their nations and preserve ours. That sounds like a
fabulous bargain to me.

Bruce Jensen

bpnjensen wrote:

Oh, and by the way, Cuhulin - in case you haven't noticed, many of the
people on this newsgroup think you're a creep and treat you badly. In
my response, except for the ribbing about calling you a "selfish
*******," I've been pretty decent and have tried to treat you like the
thinking person I believe you to be. If you want to reap respect, sow
a bit of the same.

I related an idea that not only suggests that we could help
impoverished people with little hope of survival, but also do ourselves
a big favor by making them LESS jealous and likely to "hate our guts,"
as well as make them want to remain in their own nations, and you
dimiss it as *my* namby-pamby BullS..t. I didn't invent the idea, nor
did I make it work, but I have the brain and eyes to recognize a
potentially promising idea when I see it.

In a way that almost sounds like bribery. Tell ya what, I'll be sure not to be
jealous of you or hate your guts and I'll stay here in Michigan if you'll just
send me a couple of nice log-periodic antennas.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



Call it what you want, but I see my country getting overcrowded with
people who are desperate to leave their own - they bring with them
their own customs about having massive families they can't support
properly, and that makes the problem worse. I value what little elbow
room I have left here in America, and I value living among insutrious
people who can successfully support themselves without excessive
government payouts (American industry is another story). I think you
do, too. What these ideas propose is a lot cheaper than bombing the
destitute to oblivion (you can feed 1,000,000 impoverished Africans or
Asians or anybody forever for the price of one bomb), and it will help
to improve their nations and preserve ours. That sounds like a
fabulous bargain to me.

Bruce Jensen

In a way that almost sounds like bribery. Tell ya what, I'll be sure not to be
jealous of you or hate your guts and I'll stay here in Michigan if
you'll just
send me a couple of nice log-periodic antennas.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

You could look at it that way - if you take a perennially dark
perspective. We don't have to help them - or even let them into the
US. The idea is to create a win-win situation for all.

The luxury of log-periodic antennas for a comfortable American is an
interesting comparison with a teaching a starving African how to grow
himself a bowl full of clean food, but I digress...

On the bright side, you could look at it as helping your fellow man,
and doing yourself a favor at the same time. Especially when the
starving Africans are too busy starving to feel jealous to begin with -
I'd bet that many of them probably don't even know that life can even
be something more than constant pain and misery. Come to them cold
with help and hope, and I think their chances of appreciating your help
are pretty good. Call it what you want - but that's not bribery from
where I sit. It's finding solutions to problems.

Bruce Jensen

bpnjensen wrote:

In a way that almost sounds like bribery. Tell ya what, I'll be sure not to be
jealous of you or hate your guts and I'll stay here in Michigan if
you'll just
send me a couple of nice log-periodic antennas.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

You could look at it that way - if you take a perennially dark
perspective. We don't have to help them - or even let them into the
US. The idea is to create a win-win situation for all.

The luxury of log-periodic antennas for a comfortable American is an
interesting comparison with a teaching a starving African how to grow
himself a bowl full of clean food, but I digress...

On the bright side, you could look at it as helping your fellow man,
and doing yourself a favor at the same time. Especially when the
starving Africans are too busy starving to feel jealous to begin with -

But wait... first you said it was to make them LESS jealous... now you're saying
that they are too busy starving to feel jealous to begin with?

Which is it?

I forgot to mention earlier that I really love to see the left-wingers on the
winning side of their losing streak.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


I'd bet that many of them probably don't even know that life can even
be something more than constant pain and misery. Come to them cold
with help and hope, and I think their chances of appreciating your help
are pretty good. Call it what you want - but that's not bribery from
where I sit. It's finding solutions to problems.

Bruce Jensen

But wait... first you said it was to make them LESS jealous... now you're saying
that they are too busy starving to feel jealous to begin with?

Which is it?

My perhaps poorly chosen words in response to Cuhulin's statement that
they "hate our guts." Obviously, neither he nor I are in any real
position to predict exactly how all of the desperate people around the
world feel, but the reality is probably some combination of many
emotions.

I still stand by the original concept, however, of doing something
relatively inexpensive to benefit both the poor and yourself. You can
pick nits about dashed-off usenet responses if you wish, but the core
idea is sound.

Bruce Jensen

wrote in message
...

Is there sewage runnin
down the streets here in Jackson,Mississippi?

Not unless you've taken up jogging.

What is a log periotic antenna.Sure,I could do a devilfinder.com or a
vivisimo.com search for it,but I thought I would ask in this new group.
cuhulin