-=jd=- wrote:
On Fri 12 Aug 2005 10:52:54p, "FDR"
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"-=jd=-" wrote in message
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On Fri 12 Aug 2005 03:07:25p, yachtboy! wrote
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If there weren't any wmd in Iraq, and it was ossama who masterminded
9/11, why are we in Iraq?
I would be interested in details, not RNC talking points.




Think about it... Let's start at a high level and see if you can reason
it to
a logical, strategic conclusion.

You want to combat and curtail radical islamic terrorism (at least) to
a tolerable level. How are you going to accomplish that?

You've got a bee hive with a few million bees. Do you throw a baseball
at it? Or do you capture the queeen?



You throw every baseball you can get your hands on!!

break
You clearly haven't the slightest clue about radical islamic terrorism,
what it's stated, publicized goals are, or how to combat it.

You think stirring up the bee hive is a bad idea and that we should (ahem)
"capture the queeen". That is a fairly idiotic statement.

Osama and his peers are not "leaders" in the "cut off the head of the
snake" sense, but are more akin to the primary mouth-pieces. There are
plenty more waiting to fill in should one of them get zapped. If they are
killed, it has zero impact on planned operations. There is no "queen",

Not exactly zero impact there is a short term impact, but on the whole
Id rather keep UBL on the loose sucking up the Media O2 than allow
newer and more vigourous leader to emerge

leader, head, king, emperor, whatever else you want to call it that the
remainder of the structure relies upon to function, so your opinion seems
idiotic.

For a non-uniformed enemy who is trained to, and survives by, blending into
the general population, the only way you can get them to show themselves is
to "stir up the bee hive". 22-SAS has shown this to be an almost guaranteed
successful tactic for drawing them out. Instead of traipsing around the
globe, looking in a billion different spider-holes hoping to find one or
two, we have the terrorists coming (in droves) to our forces in Iraq -- we
don't have to go all over the world to find them! But, you apparently DO
NOT think "stirring up the bee's nest" in this case is a good idea, which
tells me you're an idiot.

When you capture *any* radical, islamic terrorist, you have only succeeded
in providing them with an excuse to stage another terrorist act to free the
catured one. No-one has yet demonstrated that anything other than martyring
them is the least bit effective in curtailing radical islamic terrorist
activities. Historically, most every "peaceful" method has met with utter,
abject failure. They can't be bribed, appeased, bargained with, negotiated
with - hell, they won't even tolerate your surrender to them. It seems the
only time they assent to negotiations is when they want a breather so they
can reload. That you would urge the "capture" of any of them, let alone
some non-existent "queen", tells me you are an idiot.

You should stick to discussing something you have a clue about. This
clearly isn't your subject and you look like just another Bush-bashing
idiot parroting some other misguided Bush-bashing blogger.

I keep hearing plenty of whining, liberal carpers who can't stomach the
thought of fighting an enemy who is physically, mentally and spiritually
committed to the destruction of western society. Just once, I would like to
hear their strategic idea for putting a stop to terrorism. Note, all
political efforts have failed in the past - there is no sane reason to
think any political effort will succeed in the future. However, just for
laughs, it would be interesting to hear the liberal solution to radical
islamic terrorism.

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