-ex- wrote:
VOA SWLer wrote:



If anyone is using diesel, the local Giant food store here in Laurel,
Maryland is selling their brand name vegetable oil and Crisco oil in
bottles of a little over two quarts (as of September 2) on sale. It
works out to be about $3.10 per gallon.

(Today, diesel fuel here was priced at +/- $3.65 per gallon.)

A friend of mine is using Crisco in his diesel powered Dodge Ram 2500
pickup truck.

He says he gets 25 to 27+ mpg on the highway (about 10% less than
diesel fuel), vegetable oil provides better lubrication for the fuel
injectors than diesel fuel and it doesn't stink of diesel. He says
the diesel engine exhaust smells like McDonald's french fries.
:-)


I wonder if Mel-Fry would be better? Sure makes better fries!

-Bill

Do a search on SVO (straight vegetable oil). It is a good match for most
diesels, but it usually won't start the engine, and at room temperature is
borderline too thick to safely pass through the injectors. The solution to these
problems is to start the engine on diesel, and use the engine coolant to preheat
the SVO. When the engine is up to temperature, switch to SVO. When you are
a couple of miles from the end of your trip, switch back to diesel (to clear the
filters, pumps and lines of SVO)

Also, if your friend doesn't want to have to fill his truck bed with empty
VO bottles, he can buy the stuff in 55 gallon plastic barrels for a much reduced
price.

-Chuck

OBTW, using SVO in an on-the-road vehicle is illegal both federally, and in most
states, as you aren't paying the required per gallon road taxes. The road taxes
amount to about $1 per gallon of the price of fuel. It is also illegal to run a hybrid
using a battery charger, for the same reason... non commercial use is unlikely to be
caught in the near term, however. As SVO becomes more popular, I am sure that
the local constabulary will find ample time to pull over any vehicle that smells like
a fryer. The fines for running untaxed motor fuel on the road are very steep.

I dont know about nowdays,but back in the late 1950's/early 1960's when
foreign diesel engine cars (Mercedes Benz and such like) started getting
popular in America,some folks would use their home heating oil in their
diesel engine cars because it was cheaper.I own a four cylinder Mercedes
Benz diesel engine I bought fom J.C.Whitney company back in the 1960's.I
was going to put it in a small 1962 International step van I used to own
and make a camper out of the van,but I never got around to doing it so
the diesel engine just sits in my old shed in my back yard and gathers
dust.
cuhulin

Chuck,running a hybrid vehicle using a battery charger? illegal? Is that
something like a home made hybrid vehicle? How about an Aircar? Do an
Evil www.devilfinder.com search for,The Aircar
cuhulin

Chuck Harris wrote:


OBTW, using SVO in an on-the-road vehicle is illegal both federally, and
in most
states, as you aren't paying the required per gallon road taxes.

Who cares? What are the chances of him being stopped by an IRS
"revenuer" or a state official because his exhaust smells of french
fries?

Nil!

VOA SWLer wrote:
Chuck Harris wrote:


OBTW, using SVO in an on-the-road vehicle is illegal both federally,
and in most
states, as you aren't paying the required per gallon road taxes.


Who cares? What are the chances of him being stopped by an IRS
"revenuer" or a state official because his exhaust smells of french
fries?

Getting better all the time! When it was just one or two cars doing
it, the chances were nil. But now there are websites dedicated to
running SVO, or biodiesel. The legislature in MD, for one, had already
addressed the issue, and will be taxing biodiesel in all forms.

Considering that the fine is in the thousands of dollars, it might
be important to you if you decide to run SVO, or off road diesel.

-Chuck

Shoot the *******s!
cuhulin

VOA SWLer wrote:
A friend of mine is using Crisco in his diesel powered Dodge Ram 2500 pickup truck.

He says he gets 25 to 27+ mpg on the highway (about 10% less than diesel fuel),
vegetable oil provides better lubrication for the fuel injectors than diesel
fuel and it doesn't stink of diesel. He says the diesel engine exhaust smells
like McDonald's french fries.

It's acidic enough that it will eventually corrode the fuel injectors
if he does this for too long without adding some buffering or cutting it
with diesel. But that should be fine to get us through the current
shortage.

Likewise my local paint store is selling VM&P naptha for around $2/gal.
A gasoline engine won't run on it alone terribly well, but you can cut
gasoline with it without any harm. (Admittedly I say this as a guy
with a car that predates catalytic converters).

Hmm... what are alcohol prices slike?
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott Dorsey wrote:

VOA SWLer wrote:

A friend of mine is using Crisco in his diesel powered Dodge Ram 2500 pickup truck.


It's acidic enough that it will eventually corrode the fuel injectors
if he does this for too long without adding some buffering or cutting it
with diesel.


How long would it take to show corrosion of the fuel injectors?
50K miles? 100K miles?


But that should be fine to get us through the current
shortage.


That's right! And, now that the prices for diesel fuel are dropping,
Crico oil is more expensive.

You can run a diesel on a dead cat.
cuhulin

I hate cats.
cuhulin