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Mike Lee wrote: MnMikew wrote: "Mike Lee" wrote in message ... Come on Bush get off your f****** ass and do some thing. Funny I dont seen any relief effort coming from any other countries, including yours. Well its been 5 days so far, and so far nothing, or at least things are just starting to happen. It should not take 5 days should it. I agree... we should have one of those Magic Wands like you folks have over there that solves problems instantly. Run along now and watch Eastenders. dxAce Michigan USA |
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Mike Lee wrote: MnMikew wrote: "Mike Lee" wrote in message .uk... Come on Bush get off your f****** ass and do some thing. Funny I dont seen any relief effort coming from any other countries, including yours. Well its been 5 days so far, and so far nothing, or at least things are just starting to happen. It should not take 5 days should it. I agree... we should have one of those Magic Wands like you folks have over there that solves problems instantly. Run along now and watch Eastenders. dxAce Michigan USA No thanks its ****, just like your situation. -- http://uk.geocities.com/swift240/mikes_page_1.html |
Mike Lee wrote: dxAce wrote: Mike Lee wrote: MnMikew wrote: "Mike Lee" wrote in message .uk... Come on Bush get off your f****** ass and do some thing. Funny I dont seen any relief effort coming from any other countries, including yours. Well its been 5 days so far, and so far nothing, or at least things are just starting to happen. It should not take 5 days should it. I agree... we should have one of those Magic Wands like you folks have over there that solves problems instantly. Run along now and watch Eastenders. dxAce Michigan USA No thanks its ****, just like your situation. Well, all things considered, I'd much rather be in the hurricane damage zone right now than be faced with living in the UK if that tells you what I think about the future prospects for that area versus yours. dxAce Michigan USA |
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"Mike Lee" wrote in message k... Come on Bush get off your f****** ass and do some thing. Funny I dont seen any relief effort coming from any other countries, including yours. Wrong. As of today the US has received offers of assistance from Canada, the UK, France (!), Germany(!!), Venzuela(!!!), and Israel. There may be a couple of others, but I forget. T. PS: Chavez got in a wipe at W by calling him the "Vacation President". |
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"Tom Sherren" wrote in message ... In article , "MnMikew" wrote: "Mike Lee" wrote in message k... Come on Bush get off your f****** ass and do some thing. Funny I dont seen any relief effort coming from any other countries, including yours. Wrong. As of today the US has received offers of assistance from Canada, the UK, France (!), Germany(!!), Venzuela(!!!), and Israel. There may be a couple of others, but I forget. T. PS: Chavez got in a wipe at W by calling him the "Vacation President". Yeah, Bush is the first President to ever go on vacation. Just today? what! Whats taking so long! The outrage! This is supposed to happen overnight isnt it? |
A "New Orleans" couldn't happen in London,eh? It wouldn't have to be a
Hurricane to do a "New Orleans" on London.London is about sixty five miles North of the South Coastline of England.I have a lady friend who lives on the Coast over there about sixty five miles South/Southwest of London. cuhulin |
"Mike Lee" wrote in message So go on say "oh **** you now" if thats the best you can do. -- http://uk.geocities.com/swift240/mikes_page_1.html Well if you insist, **** you! |
It's all very well you fella's slagging off Mike, but the view from down
here in South Africa is similar: Here we have the mightiest nation on earth, whose weather forecasters predicted the hurricane Katrina would hit N. O. at least five days beforehand. Your chief forecaster even said it would hit N.O. with winds of 160 mph and a huge storm flood two days ahead of the event. He described it as being a storm that would exceed anything in recorded weather history. Yet despite these dire warnings nothing was done until AFTER the tragedy Questions I ask? # Why was the National Guard not fully mobilised BEFORE the terrible tragedy? # The mayor asked people to leave the day before, but why was this not made mandatory and every assistance given? # Why were police reserves and rescue services not activated at the first dire warnings several days beforehand? I think it was dxAce who said that no one had ever had a tragedy on such a scale before affecting a city of one million. That is disingenuous - the fact is that the mighty U.S.A. has the biggest and best resources on earth, the best brains, the best technology and logistics, in fact every facility that the best in the world can provide to mitigate and ameliorate such a disaster, yet too little was done too late. I'm sorry fella's, instead of trying to give poor old Mike a stuffing, you should rather ferret out those slimy bureaucrats and politicians who are responsible for this gigantic SNAFU. In the meantime my sincere best wishes to the hard pressed citizens of Louisiana. -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s RX Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods Drake SW8 & ERGO software Sony 7600D GE SRIII BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A. Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940 GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx "Mike Lee" wrote in message .. . MnMikew wrote: "Mike Lee" wrote in message ... Come on Bush get off your f****** ass and do some thing. Funny I dont seen any relief effort coming from any other countries, including yours. Well its been 5 days so far, and so far nothing, or at least things are just starting to happen. It should not take 5 days should it. I feel sory for them, I realy do. As for our help, then if Sky news are not lying then Blair has said he will help and why not. You need help from any quarter, because so far Bush has been an inadequate president. See Sky news and listen to the people they are all saying the same thing and that is. "Where is the help, please help us", FACT Ohhhhh dont worry Mr Bush has been on Sky news saying "Be pateint" Its OK for him to say that he isnt in the **** as they are is he. As for the looters some are just that. Others are looting for food and clean water and medicine, I dont blame them they are trying to survive, trying to get to the next say. So go on have a go because I have critisized your all powerfull Mr Bush. He isnt so powerfull in the end is he, 5 days and not alot is happening. Thats a TOTAL disgrace to all you Americans. You all deserve something better than that. Or are ANY of you saying 5 days is OK? How would you feel if you were in the exact same conditions as they are after 5 days would you loot to feed your loved one or partner or starve and not do any thing for your self? (get ready to tell me "**** you") saying that to me WILL NOT alter the facts, no matter how you want to defend My Bush. -- http://uk.geocities.com/swift240/mikes_page_1.html |
Mike Lee wrote:
Well its been 5 days so far, and so far nothing, or at least things are just starting to happen. snip It hasn't been 5 days yet. The storm hit on Monday morning. Things got significantly worse on Tuesday when major breaches opened in levees. The disaster area covers 90,000 square miles. (233,100 square kilometers) Here's a story indicating rescuers were having trouble getting to the area: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4199350.stm It was last updated on Wednesday just after noon in the UK - very early morning in the disaster area. It reflects information gathered on Tuesday. Sure it would be nice if we could have gotten enough people and supplies in sooner - but it's not a trivial task. |
Dont pour your limey heart out to this old Mississippi boy!,we can more
than take care of ourselfs! In 1842 we ran y'alls brits a..es down the cornfields and all the way down to New Orleans and on back to limeyland.We "fixed" y'alls limeyland a..es in the American Revoluntionary War too. www.devilfinder.com Battle of New Orleans By the way,the lady is Irish from Ireland and I am Scotch Irish by Ancestry and I am an AMERICAN,born and raised and d..n PROUD Of It Too! If or when London gets in big time trouble,us Americans will be dumb enough to bail y'all out again just like we did in World War Two.Go look around the sidewalks,the sides of the buildings over there,you can see y'alls Firearms in there the d..n king/the d..n queen stole from y'all.They are scared s..tless of the decent Citizens over there who owned,,, used to own Firearms.Gun smuggling is going on over there all the time,guess who "owns"/has "illegal" Firearms over there now! cuhulin |
"Mark S. Holden" wrote: Mike Lee wrote: Well its been 5 days so far, and so far nothing, or at least things are just starting to happen. snip It hasn't been 5 days yet. The storm hit on Monday morning. Things got significantly worse on Tuesday when major breaches opened in levees. The disaster area covers 90,000 square miles. (233,100 square kilometers) And the whole of England itself is about 50,000 square miles. dxAce Michigan USA |
Soda pop cans? Here we go again.You can use chocolate to shine up the
bottom of a soda pop can to use as an emergency "magnafying glass" to get fire started.Take two soda pop cans (beer cans will work just as good,be sure to drink the beer out first though) and stand one can up on a table,right at the edge of the table.Lay the other can down on the floor horizontally,right under the can standing up on the table.Get a yardstick or tape measure and measure the distance from the top of the can on the table to the top of the can laying on the floor,write it down.Then reverse the positions of the can on the table so it is horizontal and the can on the floor is standing up.Measure that and you will see a few inches difference.I know the reason why.Do you? cuhulin |
There is a guy who used to live in Lafayette County,Indiana.About five
years ago,I used to get to the Cork,Ireland,Examiner online newspaper chat room that the Examiner used to have.Lots of folks from America and Ireland and a few other Countries used to show up in there too.The guy in Indiana fell in love with a divorced woman near Newcastle,England,somewhere over there.She was divorced with a few kids.He wound up marrying her and moving to England.I thought,,,, man,how crazy can you be!? cuhulin |
I Thank those Nations and people,one and all for sending whatever help
they can.God Bless them. cuhulin |
"-=jd=-" wrote in message 8... On Fri 02 Sep 2005 04:17:01p, "Brian Hill" wrote in message : "Mike Lee" wrote in message So go on say "oh **** you now" if thats the best you can do. -- http://uk.geocities.com/swift240/mikes_page_1.html Well if you insist, **** you! He *did* ask for it... and he conceded rather quickly, didn't he? -=jd=- -- My Current Disposable Email: (Remove YOUR HAT to reply directly) Yep he did jd. P.S. It's starting to get nasty jd. Their spinning this whole hurricane mess right at Bush. Keep your guard up. ;) B.H. B.H. |
"John Plimmer" wrote in message ... Questions I ask? # Why was the National Guard not fully mobilised BEFORE the terrible tragedy? Wouldnt they be in harms way as well? # The mayor asked people to leave the day before, but why was this not made mandatory and every assistance given? NO has hundreds of thousands of people, you cant evacuate everyone. # Why were police reserves and rescue services not activated at the first dire warnings several days beforehand? Activated to where? I think it was dxAce who said that no one had ever had a tragedy on such a scale before affecting a city of one million. That is disingenuous - the fact is that the mighty U.S.A. has the biggest and best resources on earth, the best brains, the best technology and logistics, in fact every facility that the best in the world can provide to mitigate and ameliorate such a disaster, yet too little was done too late. Mother nature always wins, period. I'm sorry fella's, instead of trying to give poor old Mike a stuffing, you should rather ferret out those slimy bureaucrats and politicians who are responsible for this gigantic SNAFU. Politicans are full of hot air, but not enough to cause a hurricane. |
It is politics,Mr.Plimmer,politics.politicians.
cuhulin |
England is smaller in square miles than the State of Oregon.
cuhulin |
MnMikew wrote: "John Plimmer" wrote in message ... Questions I ask? # Why was the National Guard not fully mobilised BEFORE the terrible tragedy? Wouldnt they be in harms way as well? # The mayor asked people to leave the day before, but why was this not made mandatory and every assistance given? NO has hundreds of thousands of people, you cant evacuate everyone. # Why were police reserves and rescue services not activated at the first dire warnings several days beforehand? Activated to where? I think it was dxAce who said that no one had ever had a tragedy on such a scale before affecting a city of one million. That is disingenuous - the fact is that the mighty U.S.A. has the biggest and best resources on earth, the best brains, the best technology and logistics, in fact every facility that the best in the world can provide to mitigate and ameliorate such a disaster, yet too little was done too late. Mother nature always wins, period. I'm sorry fella's, instead of trying to give poor old Mike a stuffing, you should rather ferret out those slimy bureaucrats and politicians who are responsible for this gigantic SNAFU. Politicans are full of hot air, but not enough to cause a hurricane. Unfortunately most folks simply do not comprehend the scale of the disaster nor what it takes to mobilize relief on that scale and the logistics involved. They have little patience for anything these days and if it can't be magically accomplished 'yesterday' then there must be something seriously wrong. I pity them, for they are truly the clueless. dxAce Michigan USA |
Two million gallon oil storage tank near Venis,Louisiana,leaking into
the Mississippi River. www.drudgereport.com I heard from someone earlier today there are two oil tankers (Ships) waiting in New Orleans so the oil can be offloaded for the refineries.Two oil tankers,two million gallons of oil each.Someone shot holes in the sides of the oil tankers and they are leaking.I dont know if it is true or not.I think that is some tough steel plates on the sides of those oil tankers and I think some of them are double hulled,or whatever it's called.It must be some very powerfull Rifles and ammo that can shoot holes in the sides of those oil tankers. cuhulin |
But did you drink the beer out first? Anyway,the reason is,measuring the
distance one way and then reversing the empty (beer) cans the other way doesn't take into account of the diameter of the (beer) cans. cuhulin |
Unfortunately most folks simply do not comprehend the scale of the disaster nor
what it takes to mobilize relief on that scale and the logistics involved. They have little patience for anything these days and if it can't be magically accomplished 'yesterday' then there must be something seriously wrong. I pity them, for they are truly the clueless. dxAce Michigan You are right. It's huge, and things take time. But that's not the real problem, at least for the future of NO and for other areas subject to catastrophes (like California and Seattle for example). It's not about relief after the fact - it's about being ready for the inevitable, especially when fair warning is given. There has been an almost unconscionable lack of good planning in the NO area for decades. The place has been a sitting duck, and people from the rank and file citizen to the federal government have been sitting on their hands hoping that what just happened never would. Oh sure, they (the Army Corps and related agencies) built levees and dikes and canals to move the water around the city, but in the final analysis, a city built below sea level needs not only the best possible system to keep the water out, it needs a coordinated contingency plan, with the feds/state/local governments all involved, as well as an educated and ready citizenry, to be prepared and ready to move when a major emergency happens (as it inevitably will). *Neither of these was in place.* This is hardly Bush's fault only (I am no Bush fan, but I recognize that he saw an emergency coming before the storm made landfall, and that in the long term he inherited this heritage from many administrations and congresses before him), but knowing that this socko blast was about to hit the single most vulnerable spot in the country, and having a few days warning, some effort could and should have been mobilized ASAP - and it wasn't. Not by Bush, not by Louisiana, and certainly not by NO, one of the poorest major communities in the nation and probably the most incapable as a result. Bush, unfortunately to his discredit, also said that nobody could have foreseen the breaching of the levees - but that is really beside the point. In reality, everyone who was familiar with them virtually *knew* it was coming. This worst case scenario has been predicted for ages. Enough people knew so that a plan could have been in place long before Bush was ever in office. Levee inadequacy being known, if a coordinated evacuation plan could have started in earnest early enough to get incapable people out, a significant amount of the current sturm und drang could have been avoided. Of course, some people would have been overlooked and some would have purposely stayed behind - that's human nature - but the worst could have been avoided. Even an extra 12 hours would have been quite beneficial, with time to get, for example, a fleet of buses into the poorer sections and out again. No, we cannot magically accomplish evacuation assistance and a cleanup, *not now,* with any immediacy. There are too many obstacles in the way. If a coordinated plan was in place before the obstacles were created, however, things would look better right now, at least from a human survival perspective. Either way, though, the city will take a generation to get back on its feet - if another hurricane does not come along first. Bruce Jensen |
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snip The local authorities (city, parish, state) are *wholly* responsible for filling the gap between when the disaster hits and federal resources arriving on-scene. In this case, *none* of the local authorities were the least bit prepared for the actual disaster they were met with. They most certainly had contingency plans, but it is quite obvious that *all* of their plans were immediately overwhelmed by events. Bear in mind that this is a City and State that has been (purportedly) planning for a bad storm of this nature for *decades*. On WELI this morning, someone (I tuned in too late to get his name) was being interviewed by the local morning guy. He says New Orleans has the largest ratio of elected officials to population in the world. The reason? There isn't enough room in the prisons. Wish I caught that guy's name... |
bush Rejects French Offer of Medical Aide,Water Filters.
www.infowars.com MORON Goathead Goat story bush is a MORON,a brain salad cocaine head booze drinking MORON,Major Enemy of U.S.A.!!! The Levee's could have been strenghtened,but nooooooooo,,,,,,, got to send that money for the Iraq "war"!!! cuhulin |
As many times as I have been to Louisiana (I only live about forty five
miles East of the Louisiana state line) before and New Orleans and I have been there many,many times before since the late 1940's,I have seen many,many native Louisianans and native folks from New Orleans.Most of the people are not as poor as you might think.Some of them can drop a few thousand dollars now and then and never even miss that money. cuhulin |
www.devilfinder.com Waterways Experiment Station Vicksburg
Mississippi Lake Ponchartrain Levee They knew the Lake Ponchartrain Levee needed shoreing up.So did D.C. cuhulin |
The money that could have been used to help save New Orleans went for
bush's "war".I BLAME the current tragedy in New Orleans Directly on bush! cuhulin |
Tom Sherren wrote:
PS: Chavez got in a wipe at W by calling him the "Vacation President". I am *not* bashing W's hurricane performance, but I will address your "vacation" statement... Sure, it's a Chavez slam, but it also happens to be true. He (Chavez) is just quoting the American Public Records of those who keep track of such things. W does indeed hold the record as the U.S. "most vacationing president". No bashing, just a simple, straightforward, easily verifiable, matter of public record "almanac-style" fact. (W earned this record *before* Katrina, so sort of a Chavez cheap shot). |
Mike Lee wrote:
http://uk.geocities.com/swift240/mikes_page_1.html You have good taste in machinery. I still have my 64s and a few Vic-20s around. They were put aside when I got my first Amiga, however. mike |
www.devilfinder.com 17th Street Canal New Orleans Louisiana
The money for Louisiana flood control was stopped twice by bush.The people who oversee and work on the Levee's can't do their work without the money.They might have discovered that new section of the Levee needed more work on it,but without the money? I heard some cops from British Columbia,Canada are going to New Orleans.Foreign cops in America! cuhulin |
I got an email newsletter from Bill Federa (if you know who he is)
yesterday.He says some Border Patrol people are being shifted over to Louisiana and more Minutemen are needed at the Border. cuhulin |
wrote in message ... I got an email newsletter from Bill Federa (if you know who he is) yesterday.He says some Border Patrol people are being shifted over to Louisiana I can verify that. I work with a guy whose cousin is in the Border Patrol out of California, and said cousin has been shipped off to NO. |
-=jd=- wrote:
On Fri 02 Sep 2005 05:05:14p, "Brian Hill" wrote in message : "-=jd=-" wrote in message .18... On Fri 02 Sep 2005 04:17:01p, "Brian Hill" wrote in message : "Mike Lee" wrote in message So go on say "oh **** you now" if thats the best you can do. -- http://uk.geocities.com/swift240/mikes_page_1.html Well if you insist, **** you! He *did* ask for it... and he conceded rather quickly, didn't he? -=jd=- -- My Current Disposable Email: (Remove YOUR HAT to reply directly) Yep he did jd. P.S. It's starting to get nasty jd. Their spinning this whole hurricane mess right at Bush. Keep your guard up. ;) I say let them continue and show just how nasty they are. Have you ever heard the old saying, "give them enough rope and they will hang themselves"? Well, they are doing a marvelous job of hanging themselves. The complaints leveled at Bush so far have been thoroughly, and easily, debunked. The complainers are being revealed for the baseless partisan snipers that they are - like vultures, circling the fallen. That they are taking unseemly advantage of a disaster to sling partisan bile is being noted, recorded and compiled. It won't surprise me if we see this stuff again during the next campaign season. -=jd=- Listen, you dont like the truth and thats it isnt it. Try to listen to all those in New Orleans............ You bunch of tit heads. -- http://uk.geocities.com/swift240/mikes_page_1.html |
"Mike Lee" wrote in message Listen, you dont like the truth and thats it isnt it. Try to listen to all those in New Orleans............ You bunch of tit heads. You mean your hateful truth? Your people even got it sounding like they deliberately didn't show up because the victims were poor black people. You assholes just can't stop generating division and hatred. It's how your end operates. B.H. |
Brian Hill wrote:
"Mike Lee" wrote in message Listen, you dont like the truth and thats it isnt it. Try to listen to all those in New Orleans............ You bunch of tit heads. You mean your hateful truth? Your people even got it sounding like they deliberately didn't show up because the victims were poor black people. You assholes just can't stop generating division and hatred. It's how your end operates. B.H. You have so missed this whole thing havent you. Still I was told that a lot of Americans are thick, you must be one of them. -- http://uk.geocities.com/swift240/mikes_page_1.html |
I HATE ALL brits! The only good brits are DEAD! brits!
cuhulin |
I am hatefull.I HATE fed govt! Can you see what I am seeing on Fox tv
news Right Now! It is bush and clinton's FAULT!!!!!!!! I can be one of the Hatefullest SONS OF BITCHES ON EARTH!!! cuhulin |
You D..n brit,You better be Glad I! dont have my finger on the NUKE
trigger!!! cuhulin |
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