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David September 5th 05 10:15 PM

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:39:17 GMT, KA6UUP wrote:

Beerbarrel wrote:

Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.

Well, It isn't just about NO. Here is a report on neesler AFB in Miss.
Notice they didn't get out 'til 9/1.

I imagine the Air Force facility was not filling up with water.


David September 5th 05 10:15 PM

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 15:42:45 -0500, wrote:

If another "Katrina" happens in another large American City,it will be
the same thing all over again.
cuhulin

It will.

The climate is changing. We are in for all kinds of delightful
weather.


[email protected] September 5th 05 10:37 PM

Women dont "ask to get raped".Sheeesh.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 5th 05 10:39 PM

FDR wrote:

How does one force them to participate? Hold a gun to their head?


My understanding is that their levee system is much large in scope, and
that
the districts surrounded by levees are smaller, thus limiting losses.

-------------------------
?Fines if they don't? I will try to find out. Perhaps if you don't and
you
get stuck you ar left to fend for yourself.

And yes, that is the POINT.
IF you are going ot lvie below see level, you had really, really, and I
mean really think it through. New Orleans just happened. All too little
planning. The Dutch knew they were recovering land from the sea.
New Orleans just kind of slipped beneth sea level with way too little
attention. Yes Holland has "thrown" a lot more money, but it was
a cost benifit thing. They got many benifits, IE 40% of their land,
from the sea. New Orleans was one large aparty barge or whore house.
Not too valuable and no one rally thought about ht esex workers. Bad
anology, but I will stand by it. New Orleans was a transhippment,
ports, rail nexus, pipes etc and NO ONE thoght of the city it self
having
any real value.
And it didn't

History?
In the first 4 years it was DESTROYED 3 times by hurincanes. Then for
200+ years yellow fevor and Typhoid stalked the land killing, by one
reffernce, 40K a year. I want to research that figure, but one of my
many
history books give 40K.

So please forgive me if I no longer bleed purple over this event.
Too much whining and bithcing by the truely lame about events
thier action, or inaction casued.

Floods are a LOCAL issue. In Dayton OH the 1932(or 33?) floods
where bad. The locals built their own system of levees and redirected
the Little Miami river. It costs each perowsn(or household) about a $1
per year.

If they wanted higher levees then THEY should have built them.
If they needed more pumps, with a better backup power system,
then THEY should have build them. Because they did nothing they
got the screwing they deserved and many died. I am willing to bet that
when this is all over more will have died as the direct result of
violence
from other locals then from the waters.

In any event I have stopped feelling much sympathy for New Orleans, or
the many who suffered and died. They took no action and reaped what
they sowed, or not so to speak.

It is like people out west who want to live amoung the pretty trees.
And
when forrest fire comes along they act so damned shocked. Call me a
cynic but the government helping by rebuilding will only insure this
happens again. Until FEMA stopped rebuilding homes along the
Mississippi and other river, flood planes people just kept getting
washed
out year after year.

Move the damn city or live with the certaintity that you will get
nailed by the next cat 4 or 5 huricane that comes along.

Terry


FDR September 5th 05 10:44 PM


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 20:45:24 GMT, "FDR"
wrote:


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:39:17 GMT, KA6UUP wrote:

Beerbarrel wrote:

Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.
Well, It isn't just about NO. Here is a report on neesler AFB in Miss.
Notice they didn't get out 'til 9/1.

Anyone familiar with La, Miss. etc knows the states are heavly forested.
Especially the northern parts. I heard a news crew say it took them 19
hours to get to the Miss. coast from Atlanta. They had to cut their way
through the downed trees across the interstate with a chainsaw to get
through.

Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:59:15 -0400
From: Maj Shooter
Subject: Keesler AFB
To: Cruffler List
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Latest word we got from Keesler (1 Sep 05) is that though the base is
pretty messed up there was NO loss of life. The commissary and BX are
toast as is most of family housing and most of the rest of the base.
The folks that rode out the storm at Keesler just came out and had their
first hot meal since it hit...6000 meals on the first go around. They
currently have no phone, land-line or cell, and their runway is the only
one open in the area...only daylight, VFR flights allowed.. Bout it,
though we get a couple of updates per day.

And yes, there are mumblings about doing to Keesler what was done to
Homestead, but only mumblings, not even rumors.

Maj Shooter
Virginia (Pentagon)


KA6UUP


"Mr. Chairman, I travels around the state of Louisiana, and when
I does, I always have me a gun in ma car. But, Mista Chairman,
when I goes to New Orleans, I have's me two guns."
Louisiana Representative Romo Romero


------------------------------



You are absolutely right! If you listen to the press, only NO matters.
Go figure! I sent my donation to the people of Mississippi.


Mine went to all hurricane victims




That's great....I'm glad to see you give. I wish everyone would.


I'm fortunate. Others aren't. I can't see how I couldn't give.



[email protected] September 5th 05 10:48 PM

FDR wrote:
They are still victims. If a woman gets raped there is a mentality
that she
asked for it because she dressed too sexually, or was in the park
jogging at
night, or she flirted with a guy and he took it as a go signal. Would
you
say that a woman had the choice of wearing something less sexual and
therefore it's her choice to get raped? Or that she shouldn't flirt
because she then made a choice to get raped?

If I walk outside and get mugged, is it my fault? I made a choice to
leave
my apartment so it's my fault. I made a choice to live in a not so
nice
area so it's my fault.
-----------------------------
This is where we disagree.
It is like the fools that ski out of the safe area, get in trouble
and expect "someone" to rescue them. Or climbers whose
task excedes there skill, again tehy want someone else to
bail them out.
800+K decided to rsik living in a disater waitingto happen.
Most had sense enough to flee withthe warnings. Those who
didn't, excepting those who where too sick, ill infirm, got what
they deserved.

Sad, yea but natures a bitch.
Way different from a woman getting raped. Nature doesn't rape
anyone. It takes the action of a man, OK I guess a few women have
raped but damned few, to rape. Tehwoman may have been foolsih,
stupid or just ignorant of the danger, but the preditor still decided
to
rape and foolwed throguh on that action.

Big difference between rape and getting washed away, burried in snow
or stranded on a mountain. We try and imprison, or execute rapists.
We have to bow, or at least pay attention to mother nature.

Live below sea level, stay in a storm and drown.
Very simple. You can save yourself by LEAVING.

Katrina and rape could only be confussed in a liberal's mind.

Terry


dxAce September 5th 05 10:59 PM



FDR wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
...
Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.

I think we should eliminate FEMA and the Dept. of Homeland Security.
They
do nothing anyway.


Then why are you screaming liberal 'tard boys bitching about why they
didn't
show up fast enough if they don't do anything anyway?


You don't read very well do you.


I read better than the stuff you type, ****stain.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



FDR September 5th 05 11:00 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
FDR wrote:

How does one force them to participate? Hold a gun to their head?


My understanding is that their levee system is much large in scope, and
that
the districts surrounded by levees are smaller, thus limiting losses.

-------------------------
?Fines if they don't? I will try to find out. Perhaps if you don't and
you
get stuck you ar left to fend for yourself.

And yes, that is the POINT.
IF you are going ot lvie below see level, you had really, really, and I
mean really think it through. New Orleans just happened. All too little
planning. The Dutch knew they were recovering land from the sea.
New Orleans just kind of slipped beneth sea level with way too little
attention. Yes Holland has "thrown" a lot more money, but it was
a cost benifit thing. They got many benifits, IE 40% of their land,
from the sea. New Orleans was one large aparty barge or whore house.
Not too valuable and no one rally thought about ht esex workers. Bad
anology, but I will stand by it. New Orleans was a transhippment,
ports, rail nexus, pipes etc and NO ONE thoght of the city it self
having
any real value.
And it didn't

History?
In the first 4 years it was DESTROYED 3 times by hurincanes. Then for
200+ years yellow fevor and Typhoid stalked the land killing, by one
reffernce, 40K a year. I want to research that figure, but one of my
many
history books give 40K.

So please forgive me if I no longer bleed purple over this event.
Too much whining and bithcing by the truely lame about events
thier action, or inaction casued.


Yeah, **** those people. Too bad they didn't all die, then we wouldn't have
to rebuild. Maybe we could just force them back there and drown them for
good. They were poor people, no one would notice.


Floods are a LOCAL issue.


Exactly. It's time the Federal government got rid of this FEMA thing. It
doesn't work and costs us a lot of money. Next time they should just drop
shotguns to the "suvivors" and let them shoot it out until they kill
everyone.

In Dayton OH the 1932(or 33?) floods
where bad. The locals built their own system of levees and redirected
the Little Miami river. It costs each perowsn(or household) about a $1
per year.

If they wanted higher levees then THEY should have built them.
If they needed more pumps, with a better backup power system,
then THEY should have build them. Because they did nothing they
got the screwing they deserved and many died. I am willing to bet that
when this is all over more will have died as the direct result of
violence
from other locals then from the waters.


Yeah! And if they get attacked by a nuclear warhead from China, it's their
own damn fault they didn't install a anti-ballistic missile system to save
themselves!


In any event I have stopped feelling much sympathy for New Orleans, or
the many who suffered and died. They took no action and reaped what
they sowed, or not so to speak.


Hey, let's get together some weekend and go stomp on their graves. I'll
bring a couple of six packs and Ted Nugent albums.


It is like people out west who want to live amoung the pretty trees.
And
when forrest fire comes along they act so damned shocked. Call me a
cynic but the government helping by rebuilding will only insure this
happens again.


I blame the government for buying the land west of the Mississippi in the
first place. There's too much upkeep.

Until FEMA stopped rebuilding homes along the
Mississippi and other river, flood planes people just kept getting
washed
out year after year.


And if people would just stop having damn babies we wouldn't have to wrooy
about more deaths too.


Move the damn city or live with the certaintity that you will get
nailed by the next cat 4 or 5 huricane that comes along.

Terry




KA6UUP September 5th 05 11:01 PM

David wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:39:17 GMT, KA6UUP wrote:


Beerbarrel wrote:


Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.


Well, It isn't just about NO. Here is a report on neesler AFB in Miss.
Notice they didn't get out 'til 9/1.


I imagine the Air Force facility was not filling up with water.

Check the pictures out he

http://iraqwarnews.net/2005/09/katri...o-keesler.html

[email protected] September 5th 05 11:03 PM

What was the name of that Hurricane about a year or so ago and I think
the name of the City in Florida is Port Charlotte that the Hurricane
tore up? Not long after that I saw a tomsblogspot (something like that)
and some people were blogging/talking away in there and there was
something about many of the dead bodies didn't get reported and some
fema guys were riding around in that area with a sort of a look on those
fema guys faces as if,If you even look at us we will ruin your day! And
the people who live in that area were wondering where is the help.
cuhulin


FDR September 5th 05 11:07 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
FDR wrote:
They are still victims. If a woman gets raped there is a mentality
that she
asked for it because she dressed too sexually, or was in the park
jogging at
night, or she flirted with a guy and he took it as a go signal. Would
you
say that a woman had the choice of wearing something less sexual and
therefore it's her choice to get raped? Or that she shouldn't flirt
because she then made a choice to get raped?

If I walk outside and get mugged, is it my fault? I made a choice to
leave
my apartment so it's my fault. I made a choice to live in a not so
nice
area so it's my fault.
-----------------------------
This is where we disagree.
It is like the fools that ski out of the safe area, get in trouble
and expect "someone" to rescue them. Or climbers whose
task excedes there skill, again tehy want someone else to
bail them out.
800+K decided to rsik living in a disater waitingto happen.
Most had sense enough to flee withthe warnings. Those who
didn't, excepting those who where too sick, ill infirm, got what
they deserved.

Sad, yea but natures a bitch.


Actually, neither one of your examples is about nature, it's about choice.
They chose to ski outside the area or chose to climb the mountain.


Way different from a woman getting raped. Nature doesn't rape
anyone.


And nature doesn't force anyone to climb a mountain or ski off a cliff.
It's choice.

It takes the action of a man, OK I guess a few women have
raped but damned few, to rape. Tehwoman may have been foolsih,
stupid or just ignorant of the danger, but the preditor still decided
to
rape and foolwed throguh on that action.


The usual response by men is that they (women) asked for it.


Big difference between rape and getting washed away, burried in snow
or stranded on a mountain. We try and imprison, or execute rapists.
We have to bow, or at least pay attention to mother nature.

Live below sea level, stay in a storm and drown.
Very simple. You can save yourself by LEAVING.

Katrina and rape could only be confussed in a liberal's mind.


And only a conservative would blame the victim.


Terry




[email protected] September 5th 05 11:09 PM

www.tomsblogspot.blogspot.com If you search/look around in the
Archives enough,you will find the blogs about those crazy fema guys.
cuhulin


dxAce September 5th 05 11:12 PM



FDR wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
FDR wrote:
They are still victims. If a woman gets raped there is a mentality
that she
asked for it because she dressed too sexually, or was in the park
jogging at
night, or she flirted with a guy and he took it as a go signal. Would
you
say that a woman had the choice of wearing something less sexual and
therefore it's her choice to get raped? Or that she shouldn't flirt
because she then made a choice to get raped?

If I walk outside and get mugged, is it my fault? I made a choice to
leave
my apartment so it's my fault. I made a choice to live in a not so
nice
area so it's my fault.
-----------------------------
This is where we disagree.
It is like the fools that ski out of the safe area, get in trouble
and expect "someone" to rescue them. Or climbers whose
task excedes there skill, again tehy want someone else to
bail them out.
800+K decided to rsik living in a disater waitingto happen.
Most had sense enough to flee withthe warnings. Those who
didn't, excepting those who where too sick, ill infirm, got what
they deserved.

Sad, yea but natures a bitch.


Actually, neither one of your examples is about nature, it's about choice.
They chose to ski outside the area or chose to climb the mountain.

Way different from a woman getting raped. Nature doesn't rape
anyone.


And nature doesn't force anyone to climb a mountain or ski off a cliff.
It's choice.

It takes the action of a man, OK I guess a few women have
raped but damned few, to rape. Tehwoman may have been foolsih,
stupid or just ignorant of the danger, but the preditor still decided
to
rape and foolwed throguh on that action.


The usual response by men is that they (women) asked for it.


Big difference between rape and getting washed away, burried in snow
or stranded on a mountain. We try and imprison, or execute rapists.
We have to bow, or at least pay attention to mother nature.

Live below sea level, stay in a storm and drown.
Very simple. You can save yourself by LEAVING.

Katrina and rape could only be confussed in a liberal's mind.


And only a conservative would blame the victim.


Well you 'tard boy liberals generally want to let the criminal go and blame the
victim...

That's a fact.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] September 5th 05 11:18 PM

bush's Visit to New Orleans was a Completly Staged Photo OP.
www.tomsblogspot.blogspot.com And that MORON bush is coming to or is
in Mississippi again (I Dont want that MORON bush here in Mississippi!)
for more Photo OPS.Let me get my clothespin to put on my nose.
cuhulin


Beerbarrel September 5th 05 11:21 PM

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 22:01:29 GMT, KA6UUP wrote:

David wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:39:17 GMT, KA6UUP wrote:


Beerbarrel wrote:


Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.

Well, It isn't just about NO. Here is a report on neesler AFB in Miss.
Notice they didn't get out 'til 9/1.


I imagine the Air Force facility was not filling up with water.

Check the pictures out he

http://iraqwarnews.net/2005/09/katri...o-keesler.html




Do those pics answer your question dimwit dave?

[email protected] September 5th 05 11:21 PM

To H..L with Iraq! We need those swim trucks/vehicles back here in
America.There will be more "Katrinas".
cuhulin


[email protected] September 5th 05 11:30 PM

Holland is not a Country.Holland is a part (State,or whatever they call
it over there) of Nederlands.Same as Louisiana is a State in
America.Made in Holland,the woman at the Goodwill store said when she
turned that little piece of brickabat over and looked at it.I tried to
tell her Holland is not a Country.No,no.no,she said,Holland is a
Country! Ok,babe,have it your way.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 5th 05 11:32 PM




Beerbarrel wrote:
Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.


Bush's fault..

He took the money needed to repair the levees
anbd spent it on his vanity War
in iraq

Bush's fault..

He took the Louisiana National Guard troops and equipment and
shipped them to Iraq.

Bush's fault

The National Guard was there 24 hours after Camille devastated the
area..
Now all the Louisiana National Guard troops and equipment are in Iraq
fighting his Vanity war

Bush's fault


[email protected] September 5th 05 11:33 PM

You think New Orleans and the parts in the South that got torn up dont
have any real value? Let me tell you,we are all fixin to going to find
out,BIG TIME.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 5th 05 11:41 PM

It is Keesler AFB,but you probally ment to say Keesler AFB anyway.
cuhulin


Beerbarrel September 5th 05 11:48 PM

On 5 Sep 2005 15:32:00 -0700, wrote:




Beerbarrel wrote:
Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.


Bush's fault..

He took the money needed to repair the levees
anbd spent it on his vanity War
in iraq

Bush's fault..

He took the Louisiana National Guard troops and equipment and
shipped them to Iraq.

Bush's fault

The National Guard was there 24 hours after Camille devastated the
area..
Now all the Louisiana National Guard troops and equipment are in Iraq
fighting his Vanity war

Bush's fault




Check your facts jack.....

FDR September 6th 05 12:00 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
FDR wrote:
They are still victims. If a woman gets raped there is a mentality
that she
asked for it because she dressed too sexually, or was in the park
jogging at
night, or she flirted with a guy and he took it as a go signal. Would
you
say that a woman had the choice of wearing something less sexual and
therefore it's her choice to get raped? Or that she shouldn't flirt
because she then made a choice to get raped?

If I walk outside and get mugged, is it my fault? I made a choice to
leave
my apartment so it's my fault. I made a choice to live in a not so
nice
area so it's my fault.
-----------------------------
This is where we disagree.
It is like the fools that ski out of the safe area, get in trouble
and expect "someone" to rescue them. Or climbers whose
task excedes there skill, again tehy want someone else to
bail them out.
800+K decided to rsik living in a disater waitingto happen.
Most had sense enough to flee withthe warnings. Those who
didn't, excepting those who where too sick, ill infirm, got what
they deserved.

Sad, yea but natures a bitch.


Actually, neither one of your examples is about nature, it's about
choice.
They chose to ski outside the area or chose to climb the mountain.

Way different from a woman getting raped. Nature doesn't rape
anyone.


And nature doesn't force anyone to climb a mountain or ski off a cliff.
It's choice.

It takes the action of a man, OK I guess a few women have
raped but damned few, to rape. Tehwoman may have been foolsih,
stupid or just ignorant of the danger, but the preditor still decided
to
rape and foolwed throguh on that action.


The usual response by men is that they (women) asked for it.


Big difference between rape and getting washed away, burried in snow
or stranded on a mountain. We try and imprison, or execute rapists.
We have to bow, or at least pay attention to mother nature.

Live below sea level, stay in a storm and drown.
Very simple. You can save yourself by LEAVING.

Katrina and rape could only be confussed in a liberal's mind.


And only a conservative would blame the victim.


Well you 'tard boy liberals generally want to let the criminal go and
blame the
victim...


I think a lot of us would like to change the environment the potential
criminal lives him and give them jobs, educations and hope.


That's a fact.

dxAce
Michigan
USA





FDR September 6th 05 12:01 AM


"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...

David wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:04:17 -0400, Beerbarrel wrote:


Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.

I blame God.



Which one?


The Muslim one.


--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore.




dxAce September 6th 05 12:52 AM



wrote:

Beerbarrel wrote:
Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.


Bush's fault..

He took the money needed to repair the levees
anbd spent it on his vanity War
in iraq

Bush's fault..

He took the Louisiana National Guard troops and equipment and
shipped them to Iraq.

Bush's fault

The National Guard was there 24 hours after Camille devastated the
area..
Now all the Louisiana National Guard troops and equipment are in Iraq
fighting his Vanity war

Bush's fault


Actually it's your fault 'tard boy because you are a clueless **** stain.

Now run along and play with the other wacko liberals elsewhere.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce September 6th 05 12:55 AM



FDR wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
FDR wrote:
They are still victims. If a woman gets raped there is a mentality
that she
asked for it because she dressed too sexually, or was in the park
jogging at
night, or she flirted with a guy and he took it as a go signal. Would
you
say that a woman had the choice of wearing something less sexual and
therefore it's her choice to get raped? Or that she shouldn't flirt
because she then made a choice to get raped?

If I walk outside and get mugged, is it my fault? I made a choice to
leave
my apartment so it's my fault. I made a choice to live in a not so
nice
area so it's my fault.
-----------------------------
This is where we disagree.
It is like the fools that ski out of the safe area, get in trouble
and expect "someone" to rescue them. Or climbers whose
task excedes there skill, again tehy want someone else to
bail them out.
800+K decided to rsik living in a disater waitingto happen.
Most had sense enough to flee withthe warnings. Those who
didn't, excepting those who where too sick, ill infirm, got what
they deserved.

Sad, yea but natures a bitch.

Actually, neither one of your examples is about nature, it's about
choice.
They chose to ski outside the area or chose to climb the mountain.

Way different from a woman getting raped. Nature doesn't rape
anyone.

And nature doesn't force anyone to climb a mountain or ski off a cliff.
It's choice.

It takes the action of a man, OK I guess a few women have
raped but damned few, to rape. Tehwoman may have been foolsih,
stupid or just ignorant of the danger, but the preditor still decided
to
rape and foolwed throguh on that action.

The usual response by men is that they (women) asked for it.


Big difference between rape and getting washed away, burried in snow
or stranded on a mountain. We try and imprison, or execute rapists.
We have to bow, or at least pay attention to mother nature.

Live below sea level, stay in a storm and drown.
Very simple. You can save yourself by LEAVING.

Katrina and rape could only be confussed in a liberal's mind.

And only a conservative would blame the victim.


Well you 'tard boy liberals generally want to let the criminal go and
blame the
victim...


I think a lot of us would like to change the environment the potential
criminal lives him and give them jobs, educations and hope.


I didn't mention 'potential'... ****stain. Pull your head out of your liberal
ass and at least try to pay attention.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] September 6th 05 12:59 AM

I read somewhere on the internet today that the refugees are going to be
given free debit/credit cards.
cuhulin


FDR September 6th 05 01:02 AM


"-=jd=-" wrote in message
8...
On Mon 05 Sep 2005 07:00:10p, "FDR"

wrote in message :


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
FDR wrote:
They are still victims. If a woman gets raped there is a mentality
that she
asked for it because she dressed too sexually, or was in the park
jogging at
night, or she flirted with a guy and he took it as a go signal.

Would
you
say that a woman had the choice of wearing something less sexual and
therefore it's her choice to get raped? Or that she shouldn't flirt
because she then made a choice to get raped?

If I walk outside and get mugged, is it my fault? I made a choice to
leave
my apartment so it's my fault. I made a choice to live in a not so
nice
area so it's my fault.
-----------------------------
This is where we disagree.
It is like the fools that ski out of the safe area, get in trouble
and expect "someone" to rescue them. Or climbers whose
task excedes there skill, again tehy want someone else to
bail them out.
800+K decided to rsik living in a disater waitingto happen.
Most had sense enough to flee withthe warnings. Those who
didn't, excepting those who where too sick, ill infirm, got what
they deserved.

Sad, yea but natures a bitch.

Actually, neither one of your examples is about nature, it's about
choice.
They chose to ski outside the area or chose to climb the mountain.

Way different from a woman getting raped. Nature doesn't rape
anyone.

And nature doesn't force anyone to climb a mountain or ski off a cliff.
It's choice.

It takes the action of a man, OK I guess a few women have
raped but damned few, to rape. Tehwoman may have been foolsih,
stupid or just ignorant of the danger, but the preditor still decided
to
rape and foolwed throguh on that action.

The usual response by men is that they (women) asked for it.


Big difference between rape and getting washed away, burried in snow
or stranded on a mountain. We try and imprison, or execute rapists.
We have to bow, or at least pay attention to mother nature.

Live below sea level, stay in a storm and drown.
Very simple. You can save yourself by LEAVING.

Katrina and rape could only be confussed in a liberal's mind.

And only a conservative would blame the victim.

Well you 'tard boy liberals generally want to let the criminal go and
blame the
victim...


I think a lot of us would like to change the environment the potential
criminal lives him and give them jobs, educations and hope.


They tried that in N.O. and only wound up with a large population of thugs
indoctrinated with a liberal "entitlement mindset". As we can see from the
looting, murdering and raping, it's been a rousing success!


I think the problem is that there seems to be prevalent poverty and high
unemployment. It's not easy to reverse that. It makes me very angry to
know that there's people who think it's ok to go on a rampage and hurt your
fellow man and the people trying to save you.


-=jd=-
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dxAce September 6th 05 04:18 AM



FDR wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
FDR wrote:
They are still victims. If a woman gets raped there is a mentality
that she
asked for it because she dressed too sexually, or was in the park
jogging at
night, or she flirted with a guy and he took it as a go signal.
Would
you
say that a woman had the choice of wearing something less sexual and
therefore it's her choice to get raped? Or that she shouldn't
flirt
because she then made a choice to get raped?

If I walk outside and get mugged, is it my fault? I made a choice
to
leave
my apartment so it's my fault. I made a choice to live in a not so
nice
area so it's my fault.
-----------------------------
This is where we disagree.
It is like the fools that ski out of the safe area, get in trouble
and expect "someone" to rescue them. Or climbers whose
task excedes there skill, again tehy want someone else to
bail them out.
800+K decided to rsik living in a disater waitingto happen.
Most had sense enough to flee withthe warnings. Those who
didn't, excepting those who where too sick, ill infirm, got what
they deserved.

Sad, yea but natures a bitch.

Actually, neither one of your examples is about nature, it's about
choice.
They chose to ski outside the area or chose to climb the mountain.

Way different from a woman getting raped. Nature doesn't rape
anyone.

And nature doesn't force anyone to climb a mountain or ski off a
cliff.
It's choice.

It takes the action of a man, OK I guess a few women have
raped but damned few, to rape. Tehwoman may have been foolsih,
stupid or just ignorant of the danger, but the preditor still
decided
to
rape and foolwed throguh on that action.

The usual response by men is that they (women) asked for it.


Big difference between rape and getting washed away, burried in snow
or stranded on a mountain. We try and imprison, or execute rapists.
We have to bow, or at least pay attention to mother nature.

Live below sea level, stay in a storm and drown.
Very simple. You can save yourself by LEAVING.

Katrina and rape could only be confussed in a liberal's mind.

And only a conservative would blame the victim.

Well you 'tard boy liberals generally want to let the criminal go and
blame the
victim...

I think a lot of us would like to change the environment the potential
criminal lives him and give them jobs, educations and hope.


I didn't mention 'potential'... ****stain. Pull your head out of your
liberal
ass and at least try to pay attention.


dx, did your mom teach you not to use a potty mouth?


FDR, did your mom teach you to be a liberal ****stain?



[email protected] September 6th 05 04:23 AM

bush is running Scared and I am GLAD too.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 6th 05 04:29 AM

How do you know,m II? You weren't there.You are even TOO CHICKEN TO JOIN
THE MILITARY! CHICKEN Canadian!
cuhulin


[email protected] September 6th 05 05:51 AM

They can fill up a bunch of those ruined school buses with Quickcrete or
rocks or democrats and liberals and push them into the Levee's to fill
up the breaches.
cuhulin


RHF September 6th 05 08:01 AM

DaviD - " I blame God. "

FDR September 6th 05 08:34 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
FDR wrote:
They are still victims. If a woman gets raped there is a
mentality
that she
asked for it because she dressed too sexually, or was in the park
jogging at
night, or she flirted with a guy and he took it as a go signal.
Would
you
say that a woman had the choice of wearing something less sexual
and
therefore it's her choice to get raped? Or that she shouldn't
flirt
because she then made a choice to get raped?

If I walk outside and get mugged, is it my fault? I made a
choice
to
leave
my apartment so it's my fault. I made a choice to live in a not
so
nice
area so it's my fault.
-----------------------------
This is where we disagree.
It is like the fools that ski out of the safe area, get in
trouble
and expect "someone" to rescue them. Or climbers whose
task excedes there skill, again tehy want someone else to
bail them out.
800+K decided to rsik living in a disater waitingto happen.
Most had sense enough to flee withthe warnings. Those who
didn't, excepting those who where too sick, ill infirm, got what
they deserved.

Sad, yea but natures a bitch.

Actually, neither one of your examples is about nature, it's about
choice.
They chose to ski outside the area or chose to climb the mountain.

Way different from a woman getting raped. Nature doesn't rape
anyone.

And nature doesn't force anyone to climb a mountain or ski off a
cliff.
It's choice.

It takes the action of a man, OK I guess a few women have
raped but damned few, to rape. Tehwoman may have been foolsih,
stupid or just ignorant of the danger, but the preditor still
decided
to
rape and foolwed throguh on that action.

The usual response by men is that they (women) asked for it.


Big difference between rape and getting washed away, burried in
snow
or stranded on a mountain. We try and imprison, or execute
rapists.
We have to bow, or at least pay attention to mother nature.

Live below sea level, stay in a storm and drown.
Very simple. You can save yourself by LEAVING.

Katrina and rape could only be confussed in a liberal's mind.

And only a conservative would blame the victim.

Well you 'tard boy liberals generally want to let the criminal go
and
blame the
victim...

I think a lot of us would like to change the environment the potential
criminal lives him and give them jobs, educations and hope.

I didn't mention 'potential'... ****stain. Pull your head out of your
liberal
ass and at least try to pay attention.


dx, did your mom teach you not to use a potty mouth?


FDR, did your mom teach you to be a liberal ****stain?


I'm going to have to put a bar of soap in that mouth mister.



dxAce September 6th 05 12:04 PM



FDR wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
FDR wrote:
They are still victims. If a woman gets raped there is a
mentality
that she
asked for it because she dressed too sexually, or was in the park
jogging at
night, or she flirted with a guy and he took it as a go signal.
Would
you
say that a woman had the choice of wearing something less sexual
and
therefore it's her choice to get raped? Or that she shouldn't
flirt
because she then made a choice to get raped?

If I walk outside and get mugged, is it my fault? I made a
choice
to
leave
my apartment so it's my fault. I made a choice to live in a not
so
nice
area so it's my fault.
-----------------------------
This is where we disagree.
It is like the fools that ski out of the safe area, get in
trouble
and expect "someone" to rescue them. Or climbers whose
task excedes there skill, again tehy want someone else to
bail them out.
800+K decided to rsik living in a disater waitingto happen.
Most had sense enough to flee withthe warnings. Those who
didn't, excepting those who where too sick, ill infirm, got what
they deserved.

Sad, yea but natures a bitch.

Actually, neither one of your examples is about nature, it's about
choice.
They chose to ski outside the area or chose to climb the mountain.

Way different from a woman getting raped. Nature doesn't rape
anyone.

And nature doesn't force anyone to climb a mountain or ski off a
cliff.
It's choice.

It takes the action of a man, OK I guess a few women have
raped but damned few, to rape. Tehwoman may have been foolsih,
stupid or just ignorant of the danger, but the preditor still
decided
to
rape and foolwed throguh on that action.

The usual response by men is that they (women) asked for it.


Big difference between rape and getting washed away, burried in
snow
or stranded on a mountain. We try and imprison, or execute
rapists.
We have to bow, or at least pay attention to mother nature.

Live below sea level, stay in a storm and drown.
Very simple. You can save yourself by LEAVING.

Katrina and rape could only be confussed in a liberal's mind.

And only a conservative would blame the victim.

Well you 'tard boy liberals generally want to let the criminal go
and
blame the
victim...

I think a lot of us would like to change the environment the potential
criminal lives him and give them jobs, educations and hope.

I didn't mention 'potential'... ****stain. Pull your head out of your
liberal
ass and at least try to pay attention.

dx, did your mom teach you not to use a potty mouth?


FDR, did your mom teach you to be a liberal ****stain?


I'm going to have to put a bar of soap in that mouth mister.


Awww... the poor little liberal ****stain thinks he's going to put a bar of soap
in my mouth.

Dream on, 'tard boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David September 6th 05 03:40 PM

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:37:26 -0400, "Michael Lawson"
wrote:



"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 15:42:45 -0500, wrote:

If another "Katrina" happens in another large American City,it will

be
the same thing all over again.
cuhulin

It will.

The climate is changing. We are in for all kinds of delightful
weather.


Then how do you explain that we've had fewer Cat 4/5
hurricanes since the heyday of the 40's and 50's??

Don't be so quick to assign this to global warming,
when the main difference between 50 years ago and
now is that more people live in hurricane zones.

--Mike L.

Who said anything about Global Warming?

The Atlantic has a multidecade cycle.

But the Gulf of Mexico being 90 degrees certainly contributes to the
ferocity and the size of the storms.


[email protected] September 6th 05 09:54 PM

Reality Shakes fox (Scr.w! fox,Sc.ew them all,F...ed up fed govt,F..ked
up fema!,Stupid a.. MORON bush) news presenters.. On Air Anger Flares.
www.rense.com
cuhulin


[email protected] September 6th 05 09:59 PM

Countries around the World offer help.Poor Sri Lanka offers cash,France
offers help,fed govt turns them down.USS Bataan was in the Gulf,six
operating rooms and six hundred beds,they offered to help.D..n fema
refused for a week.H..L yeah,I blame it on fed govt.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 6th 05 10:00 PM

They could chop down some trees and make some rafts,it's better than
nothing.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 6th 05 10:08 PM

bush's Staged New Orleans Photo Ops. www.rense.com All of that food
sat there,but bush just HAD to get his Stupid Photo Os.More and more
people are not the least little bit impressed with his Stupid Photo
Ops.Hold everything,let the people go to hell,got to get my Photo Ops!
He isn't helping anything,he is hindering everything.
cuhulin



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