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These guys are all over the band each week.
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On 2005-10-01 22:36:24 -0400, "forcharms focee" said:
These guys are all over the band each week. (same **** different day) Legends in their own minds.... -- Chris: "Dad, what's a blowhole for?" Peter: "I'll tell you what it's NOT for and then you'll know why I can never go back to Sea World." |
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"Fred Garvin" wrote in message news:2005100208354693099%garv@elaboratenet... On 2005-10-01 22:36:24 -0400, "forcharms focee" said: These guys are all over the band each week. (same **** different day) Legends in their own minds.... Agreed. They should take their knee-jerk Larouche whacko BS to: http://www.assaultweb.net/cgi-bin/ul...ubb=forum;f=42 ....where they would have a captivated audience. Still it was fun listening to 3.931 last night. They had a few 'detractors' in there and the fur started to fly on several occasions. Was funny as if some fool put Baby Ruth candybars floating in a punchbowl at a kosher wedding. :) |
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"Fred Garvin" wrote in message news:2005100208354693099%garv@elaboratenet... On 2005-10-01 22:36:24 -0400, "forcharms focee" said: These guys are all over the band each week. (same **** different day) Legends in their own minds.... -- Chris: "Dad, what's a blowhole for?" Peter: "I'll tell you what it's NOT for and then you'll know why I can never go back to Sea World." They got run off of 3950 a few years back by WA9KJI and his crowd of retards. Given the choice between KJI and his retards and the Liberty Net....I would chose the Liberty Net. Dan/W4NTI |
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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message nk.net... They got run off of 3950 a few years back by WA9KJI and his crowd of retards. Given the choice between KJI and his retards and the Liberty Net....I would chose the Liberty Net. Dan/W4NTI Their still around Dan. (ain't that amazing?) KJI can still be heard occasionally in the daytime usually weekdays on 14.313 although he's not as active as he used to be allegedly due to health reasons. On Sat nights ole 'Sid the Lid' K5BLB and his crew out west hold fort on 3.947.5 each and every Saturday night to obstensivly bloc Vic from running the Lib Net starting on that freq, or just below their old home of 3.950 which is now occupied nightly by a group in the Southeast. It's an ongoing soap opera Dan. One of the last few on 75 Meters in fact! My guess is it will keep going on until all the protagionists on both sides are either 6' under the earth, or dottering in pajamas in a nursing home someplace talking to itheir maginary pets and pink elephants on the wallpaper..... (good glub aye LOVE ham radio, it's so f-n predictable even though it's on it's last gasps of technological and usefull life) |
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Dan? how close are they to kicking off?
Stuart Orange wrote: "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message nk.net... They got run off of 3950 a few years back by WA9KJI and his crowd of retards. Given the choice between KJI and his retards and the Liberty Net....I would chose the Liberty Net. Dan/W4NTI Their still around Dan. (ain't that amazing?) KJI can still be heard occasionally in the daytime usually weekdays on 14.313 although he's not as active as he used to be allegedly due to health reasons. On Sat nights ole 'Sid the Lid' K5BLB and his crew out west hold fort on 3.947.5 each and every Saturday night to obstensivly bloc Vic from running the Lib Net starting on that freq, or just below their old home of 3.950 which is now occupied nightly by a group in the Southeast. It's an ongoing soap opera Dan. One of the last few on 75 Meters in fact! My guess is it will keep going on until all the protagionists on both sides are either 6' under the earth, or dottering in pajamas in a nursing home someplace talking to itheir maginary pets and pink elephants on the wallpaper..... (good glub aye LOVE ham radio, it's so f-n predictable even though it's on it's last gasps of technological and usefull life) |
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"Stuart Orange" wrote in message roups.com... "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message nk.net... They got run off of 3950 a few years back by WA9KJI and his crowd of retards. Given the choice between KJI and his retards and the Liberty Net....I would chose the Liberty Net. Dan/W4NTI Their still around Dan. (ain't that amazing?) KJI can still be heard occasionally in the daytime usually weekdays on 14.313 although he's not as active as he used to be allegedly due to health reasons. On Sat nights ole 'Sid the Lid' K5BLB and his crew out west hold fort on 3.947.5 each and every Saturday night to obstensivly bloc Vic from running the Lib Net starting on that freq, or just below their old home of 3.950 which is now occupied nightly by a group in the Southeast. It's an ongoing soap opera Dan. One of the last few on 75 Meters in fact! My guess is it will keep going on until all the protagionists on both sides are either 6' under the earth, or dottering in pajamas in a nursing home someplace talking to itheir maginary pets and pink elephants on the wallpaper..... (good glub aye LOVE ham radio, it's so f-n predictable even though it's on it's last gasps of technological and usefull life) Yeah your probably right. Look at the Abernathy Radio group that used to dominate 3894.5. They are history. Well I don't have the time to go through all of them...hi. KJI and BLB are real world class retards in my book. But they found a good audience on 14.313. After all where could you get Donnie Dumbass and his crowd with the KJI/BLB show and not be in a bobby bin? It is so bad with that bunch on 313 that they even run the Texas Twit off. Dan/W4NTI |
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"kan't stand ya" wrote in message ... Dan? how close are they to kicking off? I don't know for sure. But they both have to be in their seventies at least. Dan/W4NTI |
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Dan says
"KJI and BLB are real world class retards in my book" We reply: Awww come on Dan. Don't be so mean to Kind Jewish Indian and Sir Sidney. I miss the 3950 days before Riley .. everyone was 60-80 over S-9. There was Arky Bob. Uncle Walter. Loose Orifice. Chicken Fornicator. Anchors Aweigh. Nazi Faggots. Dawg Peter. Tarzan. Doofus Jammer. Ahhhh the good old days. |
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In article .com,
says... BDK wrote: In article . com, says... Dan says "KJI and BLB are real world class retards in my book" We reply: Awww come on Dan. Don't be so mean to Kind Jewish Indian and Sir Sidney. I miss the 3950 days before Riley .. everyone was 60-80 over S-9. There was Arky Bob. Uncle Walter. Loose Orifice. Chicken Fornicator. Anchors Aweigh. Nazi Faggots. Dawg Peter. Tarzan. Doofus Jammer. Ahhhh the good old days. Raincoat Charlie was one of mine..I loved it when Vic and the boys went off the deep end, crying about "illegal jammers". I loved the Hitler speeches and Nazi music playing in the background too. I remember that pinhead ahole "Joe", that excitedly came on one night, announcing he "found a nest of jews" on some other freq. He died soon after, hopefully in great pain. The good old days is right! and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on such bands BDK Now who said that? All the "illegal jammers", etc, made the Liberty Net..FUN. Now it's just a bunch of old KKK and Nazi losers crying about the ...(insert race or jew here) picking on their poor old puckered up white cracker asses. Awwwwww. One night, I did actually hear them talking about ...radio! I about crapped my pants! BDK |
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BDK wrote: In article .com, says... cut The good old days is right! and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on such bands BDK Now who said that? All the "illegal jammers", etc, made the Liberty Net..FUN. Now it's just a bunch of old KKK and Nazi losers crying about the ...(insert race or jew here) picking on their poor old puckered up white cracker asses. Awwwwww. One night, I did actually hear them talking about ...radio! I about crapped my pants! who? well all these folks claiming No Code will be the "end of Ham radio" BDK |
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"kk4tl" wrote in message ups.com... Dan says "KJI and BLB are real world class retards in my book" We reply: Awww come on Dan. Don't be so mean to Kind Jewish Indian and Sir Sidney. I miss the 3950 days before Riley .. everyone was 60-80 over S-9. There was Arky Bob. Uncle Walter. Loose Orifice. Chicken Fornicator. Anchors Aweigh. Nazi Faggots. Dawg Peter. Tarzan. Doofus Jammer. Ahhhh the good old days. Yeah....the good ole days.....right. Dan/W4NTI |
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"BDK" wrote in message ... In article . com, says... Dan says "KJI and BLB are real world class retards in my book" We reply: Awww come on Dan. Don't be so mean to Kind Jewish Indian and Sir Sidney. I miss the 3950 days before Riley .. everyone was 60-80 over S-9. There was Arky Bob. Uncle Walter. Loose Orifice. Chicken Fornicator. Anchors Aweigh. Nazi Faggots. Dawg Peter. Tarzan. Doofus Jammer. Ahhhh the good old days. Raincoat Charlie was one of mine..I loved it when Vic and the boys went off the deep end, crying about "illegal jammers". I loved the Hitler speeches and Nazi music playing in the background too. I remember that pinhead ahole "Joe", that excitedly came on one night, announcing he "found a nest of jews" on some other freq. He died soon after, hopefully in great pain. The good old days is right! BDK The martial music came from Walter. Perfect clean audio with great music. Unfortunatly a no-no on ham radio. Dan/W4NTI |
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"an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... BDK wrote: In article . com, says... Dan says "KJI and BLB are real world class retards in my book" We reply: Awww come on Dan. Don't be so mean to Kind Jewish Indian and Sir Sidney. I miss the 3950 days before Riley .. everyone was 60-80 over S-9. There was Arky Bob. Uncle Walter. Loose Orifice. Chicken Fornicator. Anchors Aweigh. Nazi Faggots. Dawg Peter. Tarzan. Doofus Jammer. Ahhhh the good old days. Raincoat Charlie was one of mine..I loved it when Vic and the boys went off the deep end, crying about "illegal jammers". I loved the Hitler speeches and Nazi music playing in the background too. I remember that pinhead ahole "Joe", that excitedly came on one night, announcing he "found a nest of jews" on some other freq. He died soon after, hopefully in great pain. The good old days is right! and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on such bands BDK Mr AOF, Listen little boy. We will tell you when your allowed to speak. Dan/W4NTI |
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"an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... BDK wrote: In article .com, says... cut The good old days is right! and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on such bands BDK Now who said that? All the "illegal jammers", etc, made the Liberty Net..FUN. Now it's just a bunch of old KKK and Nazi losers crying about the ...(insert race or jew here) picking on their poor old puckered up white cracker asses. Awwwwww. One night, I did actually hear them talking about ...radio! I about crapped my pants! who? well all these folks claiming No Code will be the "end of Ham radio" BDK A O F is a bit paranoid. He is under the impression that every discussion should include him. Sort of like a 3 year old. Dan/W4NTI |
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Dan/W4NTI wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... BDK wrote: In article . com, says... Dan says "KJI and BLB are real world class retards in my book" We reply: Awww come on Dan. Don't be so mean to Kind Jewish Indian and Sir Sidney. I miss the 3950 days before Riley .. everyone was 60-80 over S-9. There was Arky Bob. Uncle Walter. Loose Orifice. Chicken Fornicator. Anchors Aweigh. Nazi Faggots. Dawg Peter. Tarzan. Doofus Jammer. Ahhhh the good old days. Raincoat Charlie was one of mine..I loved it when Vic and the boys went off the deep end, crying about "illegal jammers". I loved the Hitler speeches and Nazi music playing in the background too. I remember that pinhead ahole "Joe", that excitedly came on one night, announcing he "found a nest of jews" on some other freq. He died soon after, hopefully in great pain. The good old days is right! and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on such bands BDK Mr AOF, Listen little boy. We will tell you when your allowed to speak. **** off danny Boy I'll speak when I please Dan/W4NTI |
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an_old_faggot wrote: Dan/W4NTI wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... BDK wrote: In article . com, says... Dan says "KJI and BLB are real world class retards in my book" We reply: Awww come on Dan. Don't be so mean to Kind Jewish Indian and Sir Sidney. I miss the 3950 days before Riley .. everyone was 60-80 over S-9. There was Arky Bob. Uncle Walter. Loose Orifice. Chicken Fornicator. Anchors Aweigh. Nazi Faggots. Dawg Peter. Tarzan. Doofus Jammer. Ahhhh the good old days. Raincoat Charlie was one of mine..I loved it when Vic and the boys went off the deep end, crying about "illegal jammers". I loved the Hitler speeches and Nazi music playing in the background too. I remember that pinhead ahole "Joe", that excitedly came on one night, announcing he "found a nest of jews" on some other freq. He died soon after, hopefully in great pain. The good old days is right! and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on such bands BDK Mr AOF, Listen little boy. We will tell you when your allowed to speak. **** off danny Boy I'll speak when I please You mean you'll speak when you get that tongue depressor out of your mouth after your electro-schock therapy, Marky. |
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wrote: an_old_faggot wrote: Dan/W4NTI wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... BDK wrote: In article . com, says... Dan says "KJI and BLB are real world class retards in my book" We reply: Awww come on Dan. Don't be so mean to Kind Jewish Indian and Sir Sidney. I miss the 3950 days before Riley .. everyone was 60-80 over S-9. There was Arky Bob. Uncle Walter. Loose Orifice. Chicken Fornicator. Anchors Aweigh. Nazi Faggots. Dawg Peter. Tarzan. Doofus Jammer. Ahhhh the good old days. Raincoat Charlie was one of mine..I loved it when Vic and the boys went off the deep end, crying about "illegal jammers". I loved the Hitler speeches and Nazi music playing in the background too. I remember that pinhead ahole "Joe", that excitedly came on one night, announcing he "found a nest of jews" on some other freq. He died soon after, hopefully in great pain. The good old days is right! and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on such bands BDK Mr AOF, Listen little boy. We will tell you when your allowed to speak. **** off danny Boy I'll speak when I please You mean you'll speak when you get that tongue depressor out of your mouth after your electro-schock therapy, Marky. no I don't mean that can't imagine why youd think that. ah I see my mistake I was assuming you might be able to think |
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Dan/W4NTI wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... BDK wrote: In article .com, says... cut The good old days is right! and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on such bands BDK Now who said that? All the "illegal jammers", etc, made the Liberty Net..FUN. Now it's just a bunch of old KKK and Nazi losers crying about the ...(insert race or jew here) picking on their poor old puckered up white cracker asses. Awwwwww. One night, I did actually hear them talking about ...radio! I about crapped my pants! who? well all these folks claiming No Code will be the "end of Ham radio" BDK A O F is a bit paranoid. He is under the impression that every discussion should include him. Sort of like a 3 year old. Hmm Paranoia according to you is beliving I have the same right to coment on the posts in here as everyone else Dan/W4NTI |
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Yep Uncle Walter had a fine collection of march music and a very hi-fi
transmitter. Sounded great. Not Walter, the music. There was the night I was driving the width of Tennessee on I-40 listening to 3950 on the FT-900. Walter ranted till dawn (literally) in one of his drunken rampages. Sir Sidney was the one who played Anchors Aweigh and the theme to Hogan's Heroes. Dag-nabbit somebody bring back the good old days. Yew peeple make me siiiiicccckkkkk |
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In article .com,
says... BDK wrote: In article .com, says... cut The good old days is right! and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on such bands BDK Now who said that? All the "illegal jammers", etc, made the Liberty Net..FUN. Now it's just a bunch of old KKK and Nazi losers crying about the ...(insert race or jew here) picking on their poor old puckered up white cracker asses. Awwwwww. One night, I did actually hear them talking about ...radio! I about crapped my pants! who? well all these folks claiming No Code will be the "end of Ham radio" BDK Ahhh, that old nonsense never made sense anyway, since almost all the troublemakers have always been, for the most part, higher level, coded licensees. I think the code cracks some of them up. I know it annoyed the crap out of me 32 years ago. BDK |
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says... "BDK" wrote in message ... In article . com, says... Dan says "KJI and BLB are real world class retards in my book" We reply: Awww come on Dan. Don't be so mean to Kind Jewish Indian and Sir Sidney. I miss the 3950 days before Riley .. everyone was 60-80 over S-9. There was Arky Bob. Uncle Walter. Loose Orifice. Chicken Fornicator. Anchors Aweigh. Nazi Faggots. Dawg Peter. Tarzan. Doofus Jammer. Ahhhh the good old days. Raincoat Charlie was one of mine..I loved it when Vic and the boys went off the deep end, crying about "illegal jammers". I loved the Hitler speeches and Nazi music playing in the background too. I remember that pinhead ahole "Joe", that excitedly came on one night, announcing he "found a nest of jews" on some other freq. He died soon after, hopefully in great pain. The good old days is right! BDK The martial music came from Walter. Perfect clean audio with great music. Unfortunatly a no-no on ham radio. Dan/W4NTI Yeah, but it was fun to listen to! The Liberty Net isn't nearly as fun now...it's just sad. BDK |
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It was always sad. So are the participants.
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BDK wrote: In article .com, says... BDK wrote: In article .com, says... cut The good old days is right! and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on such bands BDK Now who said that? All the "illegal jammers", etc, made the Liberty Net..FUN. Now it's just a bunch of old KKK and Nazi losers crying about the ...(insert race or jew here) picking on their poor old puckered up white cracker asses. Awwwwww. One night, I did actually hear them talking about ...radio! I about crapped my pants! who? well all these folks claiming No Code will be the "end of Ham radio" BDK Ahhh, that old nonsense never made sense anyway, since almost all the troublemakers have always been, for the most part, higher level, coded licensees. I think the code cracks some of them up. I know it annoyed the crap out of me 32 years ago. making sense has never been a requirement of the world in or out of Ham Radio BDK |
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"an_old_friend" wrote in message ups.com... Dan/W4NTI wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... BDK wrote: In article .com, says... cut The good old days is right! and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on such bands BDK Now who said that? All the "illegal jammers", etc, made the Liberty Net..FUN. Now it's just a bunch of old KKK and Nazi losers crying about the ...(insert race or jew here) picking on their poor old puckered up white cracker asses. Awwwwww. One night, I did actually hear them talking about ...radio! I about crapped my pants! who? well all these folks claiming No Code will be the "end of Ham radio" BDK A O F is a bit paranoid. He is under the impression that every discussion should include him. Sort of like a 3 year old. Hmm Paranoia according to you is beliving I have the same right to coment on the posts in here as everyone else Dan/W4NTI That's the point AOF, you don't. Dan/W4NTI |
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"BDK" wrote in message ... In article .com, says... BDK wrote: In article .com, says... cut The good old days is right! and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on such bands BDK Now who said that? All the "illegal jammers", etc, made the Liberty Net..FUN. Now it's just a bunch of old KKK and Nazi losers crying about the ...(insert race or jew here) picking on their poor old puckered up white cracker asses. Awwwwww. One night, I did actually hear them talking about ...radio! I about crapped my pants! who? well all these folks claiming No Code will be the "end of Ham radio" BDK Ahhh, that old nonsense never made sense anyway, since almost all the troublemakers have always been, for the most part, higher level, coded licensees. I think the code cracks some of them up. I know it annoyed the crap out of me 32 years ago. BDK No, most to all of those so called code qualified trouble makers didn't do CW. They just listened to the new breed of hams, and that cracked them up. Dan/W4NTI |
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"an_old_friend" wrote making sense has never been a requirement of the world in or out of Ham Radio Luckily for you! |
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Dan/W4NTI wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message ups.com... Dan/W4NTI wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... BDK wrote: In article .com, says... cut The good old days is right! and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on such bands BDK Now who said that? All the "illegal jammers", etc, made the Liberty Net..FUN. Now it's just a bunch of old KKK and Nazi losers crying about the ...(insert race or jew here) picking on their poor old puckered up white cracker asses. Awwwwww. One night, I did actually hear them talking about ...radio! I about crapped my pants! who? well all these folks claiming No Code will be the "end of Ham radio" BDK A O F is a bit paranoid. He is under the impression that every discussion should include him. Sort of like a 3 year old. Hmm Paranoia according to you is beliving I have the same right to coment on the posts in here as everyone else Dan/W4NTI That's the point AOF, you don't. ah but I do I have the same rights as you do One day you might grow up and realize that fact, but I certainlly would not recomend anyone hold thier breath waiting for it You are one of those elist folks that can't accept that are ONLy equal of the rest of us Dan/W4NTI |
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"an_old_friend" wrote You are one of those elist folks that can't accept that are ONLy equal of the rest of us The "equality of all" is a naive myth which serves mainly to perpetuate mediocrity in the human race. "....that all men are created equal" makes a nice sound-bite but even the most casual examination of any random sample of humankind disproves it beyond any doubt. It always baffles me that free people buy into the notion of "democratic equality", because in fact the notions of "freedom" and "all are equal" are almost diametrically opposed. If I accept that I am your equal (and that you are mine) then I give up all freedom to be different from you, better than you, or worse than you. I simply WILL NOT give up that freedom, and therefore I reject the notion of "human equality". If you want to explore the results of real human equality, read Kurt Vonnegut's short story "Harrison Bergeron" at http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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KØHB wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote You are one of those elist folks that can't accept that are ONLy equal of the rest of us The "equality of all" is a naive myth which serves mainly to perpetuate mediocrity in the human race. "....that all men are created equal" makes a nice sound-bite but even the most casual examination of any random sample of humankind disproves it beyond any doubt. I knew I could count on the MMM for the elitist view It always baffles me that free people buy into the notion of "democratic equality", because in fact the notions of "freedom" and "all are equal" are almost diametrically opposed. If I accept that I am your equal (and thatyou are mine) then I give up all freedom to be different from you, better than you, or worse than you. I simply WILL NOT give up that freedom, and thereforeI reject the notion of "human equality". simple Bull**** Hans equality in rights does not mean one gives up the right to the be different freedom and equality are not in consistant If you want to explore the results of real human equality, read Kurt Vonnegut's short story "Harrison Bergeron" at http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html why since the line of "Reasoning" is GIGO 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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nobodys_old_friend wrote: KØHB wrote: "nobodys_old_friend" wrote You are one of those elist folks that can't accept that are ONLy equal of the rest of us The "equality of all" is a naive myth which serves mainly to perpetuate mediocrity in the human race. "....that all men are created equal" makes a nice sound-bite but even the most casual examination of any random sample of humankind disproves it beyond any doubt. I knew I could count on the MMM for the elitist view There's nothing "elitist" about is. It's a fact of common sociology. It always baffles me that free people buy into the notion of "democratic equality", because in fact the notions of "freedom" and "all are equal"are almost diametrically opposed. If I accept that I am your equal (and that you are mine) then I give up all freedom to be different from you, better than you, or worse than you. I simply WILL NOT give up that freedom, and therefore I reject the notion of "human equality". simple Bull#### Hans equality in rights does not mean one gives up the right to the be different Spelling's better, but your grammatical structure still needs work. freedom and equality are not in consistant Sure they are. There are hundreds of millions of people all over the world who share the same basic "freedom" that I do, but are NOT my "equal" on many, many levels. You're proof of that, Mark. If you want to explore the results of real human equality, read Kurt Vonnegut's short story "Harrison Bergeron" at http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html why since the line of "Reasoning" is GIGO You're kinda stuck on that "GIGO" acronym, aren't you, Mark? It's no longer generally applicable for many reasons. On more than one example I can put "garbage in" and get something useful out on the other side. Steve, K4YZ |
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K4YZ wrote: nobodys_old_friend wrote: KØHB wrote: "nobodys_old_friend" wrote You are one of those elist folks that can't accept that are ONLy equal of the rest of us The "equality of all" is a naive myth which serves mainly to perpetuate mediocrity in the human race. "....that all men are created equal" makes a nice sound-bite but even the most casual examination of any random sample of humankind disproves it beyond any doubt. I knew I could count on the MMM for the elitist view There's nothing "elitist" about is. sure is elitist It's a fact of common sociology. what is "Common Sociology" as opposed to other kinds? and of course sociology of any kind has nothing to do with the matter It always baffles me that free people buy into the notion of "democratic equality", because in fact the notions of "freedom" and "all are equal" are almost diametrically opposed. If I accept that I am your equal (and that you are mine) then I give up all freedom to be different from you, betterthan you, or worse than you. I simply WILL NOT give up that freedom, and therefore I reject the notion of "human equality". simple Bull#### Hans equality in rights does not mean one gives up the right to the be different Spelling's better, but your grammatical structure still needs work. again the spelling cop always the spelling and as all always ignore the issue freedom and equality are not in consistant Sure they are. moe of your bigoted elitist nonsense There are hundreds of millions of people all over the world who share the same basic "freedom" that I do, but are NOT my "equal" on many, many levels. only 100's of millions my word do check on the basisc census figures some day You're proof of that, Mark. wrong again If you want to explore the results of real human equality, read Kurt Vonnegut's short story "Harrison Bergeron" at http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html why since the line of "Reasoning" is GIGO You're kinda stuck on that "GIGO" acronym, aren't you, Mark? when the acronym fits I use it It's no longer generally applicable for many reasons. On more than one example I can put "garbage in" and get something useful out on the other side. Steve, K4YZ |
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"an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... Dan/W4NTI wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message ups.com... Dan/W4NTI wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... BDK wrote: In article .com, says... cut The good old days is right! and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on such bands BDK Now who said that? All the "illegal jammers", etc, made the Liberty Net..FUN. Now it's just a bunch of old KKK and Nazi losers crying about the ...(insert race or jew here) picking on their poor old puckered up white cracker asses. Awwwwww. One night, I did actually hear them talking about ...radio! I about crapped my pants! who? well all these folks claiming No Code will be the "end of Ham radio" BDK A O F is a bit paranoid. He is under the impression that every discussion should include him. Sort of like a 3 year old. Hmm Paranoia according to you is beliving I have the same right to coment on the posts in here as everyone else Dan/W4NTI That's the point AOF, you don't. ah but I do I have the same rights as you do One day you might grow up and realize that fact, but I certainlly would not recomend anyone hold thier breath waiting for it You are one of those elist folks that can't accept that are ONLy equal of the rest of us Dan/W4NTI Your so-called rights STOP at my nose. I have the right not to be annoyed by the likes of you, child brain, ignorant of basic facts about ham radio. And too stupid to learn. Now go away and suck your thumb. Dan/W4NTI |
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"KØHB" wrote in message nk.net... "an_old_friend" wrote You are one of those elist folks that can't accept that are ONLy equal of the rest of us The "equality of all" is a naive myth which serves mainly to perpetuate mediocrity in the human race. "....that all men are created equal" makes a nice sound-bite but even the most casual examination of any random sample of humankind disproves it beyond any doubt. It always baffles me that free people buy into the notion of "democratic equality", because in fact the notions of "freedom" and "all are equal" are almost diametrically opposed. If I accept that I am your equal (and that you are mine) then I give up all freedom to be different from you, better than you, or worse than you. I simply WILL NOT give up that freedom, and therefore I reject the notion of "human equality". If you want to explore the results of real human equality, read Kurt Vonnegut's short story "Harrison Bergeron" at http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html 73, de Hans, K0HB Great comeback Hans. Dan/W4NTI |
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See what I mean about this 'twit' called "an old friend" ?
He interjects into any and all topics. Then gets it all turned way off the original topic, and brings the discussion to 'him', his 'views', his 'rights', his 'wants', his 'needs'.....Then acts insulted when someone has the audacity to actually challenge him. A world class moron in my book. Dan/W4NTI "an old friend" wrote in message oups.com... K4YZ wrote: nobodys_old_friend wrote: KØHB wrote: "nobodys_old_friend" wrote You are one of those elist folks that can't accept that are ONLy equal of the rest of us The "equality of all" is a naive myth which serves mainly to perpetuate mediocrity in the human race. "....that all men are created equal" makes a nice sound-bite but even the most casual examination of any random sample of humankind disproves it beyond any doubt. I knew I could count on the MMM for the elitist view There's nothing "elitist" about is. sure is elitist It's a fact of common sociology. what is "Common Sociology" as opposed to other kinds? and of course sociology of any kind has nothing to do with the matter It always baffles me that free people buy into the notion of "democratic equality", because in fact the notions of "freedom" and "all are equal" are almost diametrically opposed. If I accept that I am your equal (and that you are mine) then I give up all freedom to be different from you, better than you, or worse than you. I simply WILL NOT give up that freedom, and therefore I reject the notion of "human equality". simple Bull#### Hans equality in rights does not mean one gives up the right to the be different Spelling's better, but your grammatical structure still needs work. again the spelling cop always the spelling and as all always ignore the issue freedom and equality are not in consistant Sure they are. moe of your bigoted elitist nonsense There are hundreds of millions of people all over the world who share the same basic "freedom" that I do, but are NOT my "equal" on many, many levels. only 100's of millions my word do check on the basisc census figures some day You're proof of that, Mark. wrong again If you want to explore the results of real human equality, read Kurt Vonnegut's short story "Harrison Bergeron" at http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html why since the line of "Reasoning" is GIGO You're kinda stuck on that "GIGO" acronym, aren't you, Mark? when the acronym fits I use it It's no longer generally applicable for many reasons. On more than one example I can put "garbage in" and get something useful out on the other side. Steve, K4YZ |
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"an_old_friend" simple Bull**** Hans equality in rights does not mean one gives up the right to the be different You have that part right --- equality in rights is a fine thing, and we all agree with it. But I wasn't talking about "rights". I was talking about the flawed notion that "all men are CREATED equal". We all have different physical attributes, different levels of intelligence, different native skills and abilities, etc., etc., etc. Clearly we are NOT created equal. As an example, you may have a great sense of pitch and rythm along with a good voice, so might become a famous singer. I on the other hand, can't carry a tune in a tow sack. Clear to all but deaf observers, we are NOT equal. The same analogy can be applied to any human attribute you wish to examine, yet politicians (even though they don't practice it themselves) still feed the masses this "created equal" myth, and the masses still buy into it. If you want to explore the results of real human equality, read Kurt Vonnegut's short story "Harrison Bergeron" at http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html why since the line of "Reasoning" is GIGO I recommended it because KV does a much better job than I in illustrating the issue. Beep beep de Hans, K0HB |
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KØHB wrote:
"an_old_friend" simple (expetive deleted) Hans equality in rights does not mean one gives up the right to the be different You have that part right --- equality in rights is a fine thing, and we all agree with it. Most people, anyway. Recall that it wasn't until many years after the USA was founded that it became illegal for some people to own other people as property, and even more years until both genders had the right to vote. But I wasn't talking about "rights". I was talking about the flawed notion that "all men are CREATED equal". And there's the problem. The phrase "all men are created equal" is too often taken as a stand-alone, without the context of the rest of the document and the times when it was written. The equality that was meant in the original document was equality of rights - and rights only! It was meant to dispel once and for all any claim to inherited privilege, nobility, title, or monarchy. No more and no less. This was a truly radical concept at the time, when almost all of western civilization had "nobles" and monarchs, and the average person had few if any rights that were guaranteed simply by being a human. The "endowed by their Creator" part is meant as a direct contradiction to the idea that some monarchs were given their authority by one divinity or another. (for a truly brilliant deconstruction of the concept of monarchy, see "Monty Python and the Holy Grail", and the scene where Arthur encounters Dennis.) We all have different physical attributes, different levels of intelligence, different native skills and abilities, etc., etc., etc. Clearly we are NOT created equal. Not that way, anyhow. And even if we *were*, we all don't develop the same way. The differences observable in identical twins are proof of that. As an example, you may have a great sense of pitch and rythm along with a good voice, so might become afamous singer. I on the other hand, can't carry a tune in a tow sack. Clear to all but deaf observers, we are NOT equal. The same analogy can be applied toany human attribute you wish to examine, yet politicians (even though they don't practice it themselves) still feed the masses this "created equal" myth, and the masses still buy into it. What they do is to substitute equality of *outcome* for equality of *rights*. Or to put it another way, what was meant by "created equal" was that there should be equality of *opportunity*, but not necessarily equality of *results*. If you want to explore the results of real human equality, read Kurt Vonnegut's short story "Harrison Bergeron" at http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html It's a great story, showing the enforcement of mandatory equality of results. There are many road races where anyone who can pay the fee and who will sign the waiver can enter, start at the same starting line and starting signal, and run/walk/jog the course. That's equality of opportunity. What Harrison Bergeron describes so well is a society where everyone has to *finish* together, regardless of their actual ability. why since the line of "Reasoning" is GIGO I recommended it because KV does a much better job than I in illustratingthe issue. Yep. One of the greatest American writers, if not *the* greatest. 73 de Jim, N2EY "Welcome To The Monkey House" "Who made you king? I didn't vote for you!" |
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KØHB wrote: "an_old_friend" simple Bull**** Hans equality in rights does not mean one gives up the right to the be different You have that part right --- equality in rights is a fine thing, and we all agree with it. obvioulsy not Hans or I guess you haven't been reading Dan lately, he has been dening I have the same rights as Him. In addition Steve, Dee, Dave Heil, even most recently some one neamed "ace" and others making claims based on various nonsense that I don't have the same rights as they do But I wasn't talking about "rights". I was talking about the flawed notion that "all men are CREATED equal". We all have different physical attributes, different levels of intelligence, different native skills and abilities, etc., etc., etc. Clearly we are NOT created equal. As an example, you may have a great sense of pitch and rythm along with a good voice, so might become afamous singer. I on the other hand, can't carry a tune in a tow sack. Clear to all but deaf observers, we are NOT equal. The same analogy can be applied toany human attribute you wish to examine, yet politicians (even though they don't practice it themselves) still feed the masses this "created equal" myth, and the masses still buy into it. If you want to explore the results of real human equality, read Kurt Vonnegut's short story "Harrison Bergeron" at http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html why since the line of "Reasoning" is GIGO I recommended it because KV does a much better job than I in illustratingthe issue. well in this case itis not the issue I am interested in, so it would still be GIGO, just for different reason Beep beep de Hans, K0HB |
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