On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:44:55 GMT, D Peter Maus
wrote:

If you really think that GW Bush is the second coming of Hitler, you
might wish actually read a history book. I'd also recommend 'Mein
Kampf.' See if anything sounds familiar.

I have a relative in that book. I come from a long line of fascists.

''All this was inspired by the principle - which is quite true in
itself - that in the big lie there is always a certain force of
credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more
easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than
consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of
their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the
small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little
matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It
would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and
they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort
the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be
so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and
waver and will continue to think that there may be some other
explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind
it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all
expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art
of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the
basest purposes.''

David wrote:
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:44:55 GMT, D Peter Maus
wrote:

If you really think that GW Bush is the second coming of Hitler, you
might wish actually read a history book. I'd also recommend 'Mein
Kampf.' See if anything sounds familiar.

I have a relative in that book. I come from a long line of fascists.

''All this was inspired by the principle - which is quite true in
itself - that in the big lie there is always a certain force of
credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more
easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than
consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of
their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the
small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little
matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It
would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and
they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort
the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be
so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and
waver and will continue to think that there may be some other
explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind
it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all
expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art
of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the
basest purposes.''




When the above section from Mein Kampf is quoted OUT OF CONTEXT, as
David did, it leaves the impression that Hitler actually invented and
promoted the BIG LIE concept. As the following IN CONTEXT Mein Kampf
quote shows, Hitler is merely explaining WHO started the BIG LIE and
why they use it:

(My Mein Kampf version appears to be a different translation, but
you'll get the point):

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"This most of all shows the assertion that the lost War was the cause
of the German collapse to be a lie. No, this military collapse was
itself only the consequence of a large number of symptoms of disease
and their causes, which even in peacetime were with the German nation.
This was the first consequence, catastrophic and visible to all, of an
ethical and moral poisoning, of a diminution in the instinct of
self-preservation and its
preconditions, which for many years had begun to undermine the
foundations of the people and the Reich.

It required the whole bottomless falsehood of the Jews and their
Marxist fighting organization to lay the blame for the collapse on that
very man who alone, with superhuman energy and will power, tried to
prevent the catastrophe he foresaw and save the nation from its time of
deepest humiliation and disgrace By branding Ludendorff as guilty for
the loss of the World War they took the weapon of moral right from the
one dangerous accuser who could have risen against the traitors to the
fatherland. In this they proceeded on the sound principle that the
magnitude of a lie always contains a certain factor of credibility,
since the great masses of the people in the very bottom of their hearts
tend to be corrupted rather than consciously and purposely evil, and
that, therefore, in view of the primitive simplicity of their minds
they more easily fall a victim to a big lie than to a little one, since
they themselves lie in little things, but would be ashamed of lies that
were too big. Such a falsehood will never enter their heads and they
will not be able to believe in the possibility of such monstrous
effrontery and infamous misrepresentation in others; yes, even when
enlightened on the subject, they will long doubt and waver, and
continue to accept at least one of these causes as true. Therefore,
something of even the most insolent lie will always remain and stick-a
fact which all the great lie-virtuosi and lying-clubs in this world
know only too well and also make the most treacherous use of.

The foremost connoisseurs of this truth regarding the possibilities in
the use of falsehood and slander have always been the Jews; for after
all, their whole existence is based on one single great lie, to wit,
that they are a religious community while actually they are a race-and
what a race ! One of the greatest minds of humanity has nailed them
forever as such in an eternally correct phrase of fundamental truth: he
called them 'the great masters of the lie.' And anyone who does not
recognize this or does not want to believe it will never in this world
be able to help the truth to victory."

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When viewed in context, you can clearly see that Hitler credits the
Jews for creating the BIG LIE, and that he is actually condemning it.
For years and years, Jews and their non-Jewish left-wing liberal
"useful idiots" have claimed that Hitler invented the Big Lie, when all
along their claim in itself is a BIG LIE!

It looks to me that Hitler was absolutely right, even prophetic, in
this matter! Considering the large Jewish influence in most TV
networks, news broadcasts, newspapers, publishing, movies, etc., it
would seem that a healthy dose of skepticism should be applied against
what you see and hear from the media. Chances are, they are telling us
many BIG LIES.

On 23 Oct 2005 13:02:28 -0700, "Somebody Somewhere"
wrote:


It looks to me that Hitler was absolutely right, even prophetic, in
this matter! Considering the large Jewish influence in most TV
networks, news broadcasts, newspapers, publishing, movies, etc., it
would seem that a healthy dose of skepticism should be applied against
what you see and hear from the media. Chances are, they are telling us
many BIG LIES.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie

Kurt Jurgens disagreed with Hitler's war.(I hear you,Kurt Jurgens,,, so
do I!) And Kurt Jurgens sat out World War Two in prison.
cuhulin

Best thing Hitler ever did was to KILL himself in that bunker!
cuhulin

Like Hitler,like bush! I DESPISE!!!!! EVERY DAMN ONE OF
THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cuhulin

Best thing bush can do,is to do likewise! And I will be more than Happy
to supply the Carthrige.
cuhulin

wrote:

Best thing bush can do,is to do likewise! And I will be more than Happy
to supply the Carthrige.
cuhulin

Be sure to test it out on yourself first.

JB