The insane power-hungry bureaucratic ****s.
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While I was in Melbourne last week, I saw a tv programme showing
how City Councils are insane power-hungry bureaucratic ****s.


This guy grows fruit and vegetables. He has a stall at their
front gate where they give away fruit and veges to his neighbours
on a regular basis. They have been doing it for donkeys years.


Anyway, the Council says he is breaking the law. He must apply
for a permit at a $50 cost *every time* he runs his stall. So if
he sets it up every day that will cost him $350 a week to give
away free fruit and veges.


The Cou8ncil guy said "We have no problems with what he is doing
in principle, but he must have a permit. He is breaking the law
without it. That's what concerns us, he *must* have a permit."


How ****ed is that? Do some kindness for your fellows and the
Council will require you have the correct permit to do so and
charge you heaps for it too.


It's coming here soon too.


That's socialism for you.


Has anyone read Bob Jones' 'The Permit'?

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That's wat happens when a few little officious nobodies give themselves
a little power - it quickly goes to their little heads and clouds their
judgement and logic.

The more they get -the more they want - of everything.



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That is so Sad.
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How to deal with dam bureaucrats ?
Just for a bit of a lighter mood...This has been circulating for years,
but it's still great This has actually circulated a LOT and got a lot
of attention; maybe this tactic can be employed more often by
activists?

The bureaucrat's letter:


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STATE OF MICHIGAN

Reply to: GRAND RAPIDS DISTRICT OFFICE STATE OFFICE BUILDING 6TH FLOOR
350 OTTAWA NW GRAND RAPIDS MI 49503-2341
JOHN ENGLER, Governor
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
HOLLISTER BUILDING, PO BOX 30473, LANSING MI 48909-7973
INTERNET: http://www.deq.state.mi
RUSSELL J. HARDING, Director

December 17, 1997

CERTIFIED

Mr. Ryan DeVries 2088 Dagget Pierson, MI 49339

Dear Mr. DeVries:

SUBJECT: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023-1 T11N, R10W, Sec. 20, Montcalm County

It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality
that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above
referenced parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal
landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized
activity:

Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet
stream of Spring Pond. A permit must be issued prior to the start of
this type of activity. A review of the Department's files show that no
permits have been issued.

Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in
violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural
Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts
of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled
Laws annotated. The Department has been informed that one or both of
the dams partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris
dams and flooding at downstream locations. We find that dams of this
nature are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department
therefore orders you to cease and desist all unauthorized activities at
this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by
removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the strewn channel.
All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 1998.
Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so
that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure
to comply with this request, or any further unauthorized activity on
the site, may result in this case being referred for elevated
enforcement action. We anticipate and would appreciate your full
cooperation in this matter.

Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any
questions.

Sincerely,

David L. Price
District Representative Land and Water Management Division

The Reply:


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Dear Mr. Price:

DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N, R10W, Sec 20; Montcalm County

Your certified letter dated 12/17/97 has been handed to me to respond
to. You sent out a great deal of carbon copies to a lot of people, but
you neglected to include their addresses. You will, therefore, have to
send them a copy of my response.

First of all, Mr. Ryan DeVries is not the legal landowner and/or
contractor at 2088 Dagget, Pierson, Michigan - I am the legal owner and
a couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of
constructing and maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet
stream of my Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, nor authorize, their
dam project, I think they would be highly offended you call their
skillful use of natural building materials "debris." I would like to
challenge you to attempt to emulate their dam project any dam time
and/or any dam place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is
no dam way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam
resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam
determination and/or their dam work ethic.

As to your dam request the beavers first must fill out a dam permit
prior to the start of this type of dam activity, my first dam question
to you is: are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond
Beavers or do you require all dam beavers throughout this State to
conform to said dam request? If you are not discriminating against
these particular beavers, please send me completed copies of all those
other applicable beaver dam permits. Perhaps we will see if there
really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the
Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the
Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the
Michigan Compiled Laws annotated.

My first concern is - aren't the dam beavers entitled to dam legal
representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and
are unable to pay for said dam representation - so the State will have
to provide them with a dam lawyer. The Department's dam concern that
either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event
causing dam flooding is proof we should leave the dam Spring Pond
Beavers alone rather than harassing them and calling them dam names. If
you want the dam stream "restored" to a dam free-flow condition -
contact the dam beavers - but if you are going to arrest them (they
obviously did not pay any dam attention to your dam letter-being unable
to read English) - be sure you read them their dam Miranda rights
first.

As for me, I am not going to cause more dam flooding or dam debris jams
by interfering with these dam builders. If you want to hurt these dam
beavers - be aware I am sending a copy of your dam letter and this
response to PETA. If your dam Department seriously finds all dams of
this nature inherently hazardous and truly will not permit their
existence in this dam State - I seriously hope you are not selectively
enforcing this dam policy, or once again both I and the Spring Pond
Beavers will scream prejudice!

In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build
their dam unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is
green, and water flows downstream. They have more dam right than I to
live and enjoy Spring Pond. So, as far as I and the beavers are
concerned, this dam case can be referred for more dam elevated
enforcement action now. Why wait until 1/31/98? The Spring Pond Beavers
may be under the dam ice then, and there will be no dam way for you or
your dam staff to contact/harass them then. In conclusion, I would like
to bring to your attention a real environmental quality (health)
problem: bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely
believe you should be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the
dam beavers alone. If you are going to investigate the beaver dam,
watch your step! (The bears are not careful where they dump!) Being
unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you
on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam
office.

Sincerely,
Stephen L. Tvedten

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albert

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While I was in Melbourne last week, I saw a tv programme showing
how City Councils are insane power-hungry bureaucratic ****s.


This guy grows fruit and vegetables. He has a stall at their
front gate where they give away fruit and veges to his neighbours
on a regular basis. They have been doing it for donkeys years.


Anyway, the Council says he is breaking the law. He must apply
for a permit at a $50 cost *every time* he runs his stall. So if
he sets it up every day that will cost him $350 a week to give
away free fruit and veges.


Who cares?

B.H.

The **** is that thingy that is between the twixt and tween.
cuhulin

There are people all over Mississippi and the South that grow home grown
fruits and vegetables and some people sell them from their vehicles by
the roadside.Much better than in the local food stores.
cuhulin

Brian Hill wrote:

Who cares?


It's pretty bad when your public *SERVANTS* forbid you to give food away.





mike

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 05:12:26 GMT, m II wrote:

Brian Hill wrote:

Who cares?


It's pretty bad when your public *SERVANTS* forbid you to give food away.





mike
They did not forbid him to give food away, though they did have a
pretty hefty licensing fee.

"In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as
possible from one party of the citizens to give to the
other.........Voltaire (1764)"

The **** is right there between the twix and tween.Hey,in about 50
minutes,the Three Stooges will be on Spike tv.I always have to get my
one hour fix of the Three Stooges on tv every morning.
cuhulin (Larry the Stooge)

"m II" wrote in message
news:_2_6f.28704$y_1.2470@edtnps89...
Brian Hill wrote:

Who cares?


It's pretty bad when your public *SERVANTS* forbid you to give food away.





mike

Who cares?

I wonder where F....D up fema will send that Ice meant for Florida this
time,, New York City,Seattle,Los Angeles,Honolulu,Puerto
Rico,Vienna,Austria? I HATE
fema!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
cuhulin

Yellow shirt fema ******* on Fox tv news a few hours ago.SHOOT THAT fema
******* RIGHT BETWEEN HIS EYES!!!!!!!!!!!
cuhulin