When one examines our enemies in the War on Terror

– the Taliban, al Qaeda, the Ba’athists in Iraq, and for the more expansive
among us, the regimes of Syria, Iran, and Stalinist North Korea – one finds
only two things they all hold in common: hatred for America, and support
from the Chinese Communist Party. http://www.dragoninthedark.com/

In 1999, a book by two Communist Chinese officers presented a scenario in
which the World Trade Center is attacked as a situation that the United
States would find difficult handle. The two colonels recommend Osama bin
Laden by name as someone with the ability to orchestrate the attack of that
magnitude via his al Qaeda group
http://www.newsmax/archives/articles...4/143618.shtml

Communist China signed a pact on economic cooperation with the Taliban on
the morning of September 11, 2001, the very day the World Trade Center fell
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2001Sep14.html

Communist China’s Xinhua press agency later produced a video on the 9/11/01
attacks “glorifying the strikes as a humbling blow against an arrogant
nation”
http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$431SABQAAB2BBQF
IQMFCFGGAVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2001/11/04/wchin04.xml&sSheet=/news/2001/11/04/i
xhome.html

After September 11, U.S. intelligence caught the Communist Chinese military’
s favorite technology firm – Huawei Technologies – building a telephone
network in Kabul http://www.washtimes.com/national/20010928-343125.htm

Raids of al Qaeda hideout by U.S. Special Forces and allies have netted, on
more than one occasion, a large cache of weapons from Communist China,
including surface-to-air missiles,
http://www.washingtontimes.com/natio...1007-5307r.htm mere weeks
after the U.S. government warned that al Qaeda terrorists in the U.S. would
try to use said missiles to take down American planes
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020601-74768506.htm
http://asia.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0112/18/nr.00.html

In the late summer of 2002, almost a year after Afghanistan was liberated, a
three-man delegation from the Taliban, - led by Ustad Khalil, purported to
be Mullah Omar’s right-hand man – spent a week in Communist China meeting
with cadres, at their invitation.
http://www.newsmax/showinside.shtml?a=2002/9/9/155340

In mid-2004, it was revealed that the Communist Chinese intelligence service
had used some of its front companies in financial markets around the world
to help al Qaeda raise and launder funds for their operations.
http://www.geocities.com/china_e_lobby/05May2004.html

In January 2001, Communist China was found to be selling Saddam Hussein
missile technology
http://www.washingtontimes.com/natio...0112622320.htm

In November of 2002, a Communist Chinese shipment of missile launching
patrol boats to Iraq was intercepted by the U.S. Navy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2002Dec11.html

Much mo
http://china-e-lobby.blogspot.com/20...t-iii-communis
t_11.html

Moving on, notice all these former CIA operatives coming out of the woodwork
lately with allegations against Bush?
Now read this: http://www.brookesnews.com/052609cia_print.html

If we cut and run out of Iraq like we did in Vietnam the democratically
"elected" government in Iraq will fall. The result? Absolute Turmoil! And
I guarantee, that by Sept 11th, 2006, Communist China will sign an oil deal
with the Taliban, al Qaeda or the Ba’athists in Baghdad.
http://www.dragoninthedark.com/

Why? Read on...

Last February, the Kremlin imposed a prohibition on any majority
participation by foreign companies in the country's hydrocarbons. Two months
later, Moscow inflicted a punishment on BP's Russian subsidiary that was
more or less the same as the one employed against Yukos - the former oil
giant that escaped Putin's control - by presenting a billion dollar bill for
a suppositious fiscal infraction. The objective of the maneuver? To
discourage BP from taking over any remains and to give them back to Gazprom,
the huge State company that profited enormously from the Yukos implosion.
Let's stick with Russia:

The day after the bittersweet dialogue between Presidents Bush and Putin
during the celebrations for the sixtieth anniversary of the fall of Berlin,
the Russian autocrat made a discreet announcement. He is ready to negotiate
with Beijing for the construction of an oil pipeline that would carry 30% of
the energy resources which China imperatively needs to maintain its present
rhythm of economic progress. One must remember that once the project is
concluded, China will be more captive to Russian black gold than to that of
any other producing country.

If China is tributary to Russia first, then to Iran for all that concerns
hydrocarbon supplies, that doesn't prevent it from all-out stimulation of
energetic nationalism. Unlike other spheres of economic activity, the
[Communist] State's presence in the oil business is dominant. There is no
question of opening the door to private interests in this area. For example,
Beijing fooled Exxon and Shell into believing that, if they got involved in
the construction of an oil pipeline between the country's West and Shanghai,
they would have access to the Chinese automobile market. To make a long
story short, Beijing let things drag along until it had obtained the
technology transfer it wanted. Once that was complete, the Chinese
terminated any further work.

When all these facts are taken into consideration, all given their proper
weight, then - unless you are either totally credulous or fanatical - you
will have to admit that the resources of a certain country take on a
particular importance. What country might that be? Iraq.

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artm...w.cgi/37/11131

It's all very simple really.
To which Dear Leader do you wish to be captive? Saddam? China's Hu Jintao?
Russia's Putin? Who?

Instead of pumping your gas from BP petrol stations, we could well be
filling up at SINOpec.

Continuing...

China’s Hypocritical Energy Stance

British Petroleum ( BP ) and its chairman Lord Browne attempted to take a
significant financial interest in China’s largest oil refiner and fuel
marketer, Sinopec. Under the conditions of the proposed deal, BP would have
traded access to certain oil and gas fields in return for an equal or
majority stake in Sinopec which is 80 percent owned by the Chinese
government.

Beijing would have become an equal or minority partner in a high-profile,
state-run enterprise with national security significance; something the
communist government was not prepared to do. “BP has misread what the
Chinese want. They said no; they’ve said they’re not doing it,” one source
close to the deal said.

Does This Sound Familiar?

Beijing’s move to protect one of its most treasured oil assets from foreign
investors brings to mind comparisons of CNOOC’s failed bid to purchase U.S.
oil company Unocal in June.

In response to the failed Unocal bid, the Chinese foreign ministry released
a statement in July saying, “We demand that the U.S. Congress correct its
mistaken ways of politicizing economic and trade issues and stop interfering
in the normal commercial exchanges between enterprises of the two
countries.” Recent protectionist actions taken by Beijing involving BP and
Sinopec make these statements all the more hypocritical.

The Bush administration and members of the U.S. Congress took an
unbelievable beating at home and abroad last summer for their stance
regarding oil company Unocal. At that time, legitimate national security
questions related to the deal were roundly criticized as protectionist
attempts by U.S. hawks who feared China’s global rise and influence. Yet,
China has essentially taken a similar protectionist stance with Sinopec,
eliciting little debate in the international community. Why the lack of
scrutiny?

The reason is quite simple -- the world community has come to rely upon
China’s unprecedented economic growth for its own economic vitality. As a
result, countries that normally would object to such protectionist actions
have remained eerily silent for fear of offending a rising China. This
position of tacit appeasement, however, has created a dangerous precedent
that if permitted to continue, will certainly challenge the basic principles
of free enterprise. In essence, an acceptable double standard will be
created exclusively for China. By looking the other way when Beijing
violates the very same open market principles it publicly espouses to
support, the global economic system is compromised.

It is becoming clear that Beijing wants to maintain control over strategic
assets in order to build global dominance in core industries such as energy,
financial services, technology and manufacturing. Why? This will allow
Beijing to influence the geo-political landscape for decades to come.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...e.asp?ID=20223

Now hold your breath, read this Holy Grail for the Left-wing piece from an
ex-CIA operative, and prepare yourself to confront China over oil Globally.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_111805N.shtml

Be careful what you wish for.

Ahhhhh,lie detectors are phoney.Look at the pupils of peoples eyes if
you want to know if they are telling the truth or not,if they aren't
telling the truth,the pupils of their eyes will get smaller.When I was
in boot camp,an Officer picked out three or four of us guys for the
reason he was testing out a lie detector.He couldn't get a good reading
from my fingers because my fingers have thick tough skin on them.he then
put some sort of a salve or what ever it was on my fingers so as to get
a better reading on that lie detector.Of course I passed with flying
colors.China has had guards in the Sudan for about six years or more
protecting oil rigs over there.
cuhulin

In article ,
"SeeingEyeDog" wrote:

When one examines our enemies in the War on Terror

– the Taliban, al Qaeda, the Ba’athists in Iraq,

wow. the taliban and al qaeda, who are the remnants of the mujahadeen
we supportedin their fight against the spread of communism in the region
are now commies? hahahaha!!!...and the baathists who spent their career
torturing islamic radicals ( like us!) are now islamic
terrorists...WOW!seeingeyedog...get that tinfoil hat out

and specially quoting ( uncited) the ramblings of D.J. McGuire even
sinks BEYOND crazy

this is the same comic who said in the 80s the USSR would discard their
Warsaw pact borders and overrun the NATO forces in a ten day
Blitzkrieg...MAN IS HE INTUITIVE OR WHAT? AAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!

interesting while you drone on about syria and iran and this vast commie
conspiracy, you just as consistently conceal FACTS about alleged "allies"

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/arti...0552912350.asp


youre a sleazy weasel. you neocons swindlers are all figured out. go
**** yourself.

PLONK

SeeingEyeDog wrote:


The reason is quite simple -- the world community has come to rely upon
China’s unprecedented economic growth for its own economic vitality.

Yeah, with us (as in the U.S.) being China's *biggest* trading partner,
to say nothing of the Administration flacks that try to tell us
"Outsourcing is great for the country and how dare we be against it" as
our economy is hemorrhaging jobs.

"George" propagadised wow. the taliban and al qaeda, who are
the remnants of the mujahadeen
we supportedin their fight against the spread of communism in the region
are now commies? hahahaha!!!...and the baathists who spent their career
torturing islamic radicals ( like us!) are now islamic
terrorists...WOW!seeingeyedog...get that tinfoil hat out

wow, and you are completely wrong in your knowledge of history in
Afghanistan.
Perhaps you should get your facts straight before you spout your idiodic
propaganda.


and specially quoting ( uncited) the ramblings of D.J. McGuire even
sinks BEYOND crazy

Cosidering your ability to know any history I would consider your accessment
ludicrous.

this is the same comic who said in the 80s the USSR would discard their
Warsaw pact borders and overrun the NATO forces in a ten day
Blitzkrieg...MAN IS HE INTUITIVE OR WHAT? AAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!

interesting while you drone on about syria and iran and this vast commie
conspiracy, you just as consistently conceal FACTS about alleged "allies"

http://www.strategypage.com/dls/arti...0552912350.asp


Just to remind you that your Socialist government in the EU is on the verge
of lifting arm sales to Communist China.

youre a sleazy weasel. you neocons swindlers are all figured out. go
**** yourself.


And you Dear Neo-Kommie are below sleaze, below swindler, below the ability
to even **** yourself.

Read that article at www.worldnetdaily.com about them outsourced
Indians in India.
cuhulin

"SeeingEyeDog" wrote in message
...
When one examines our enemies in the War on Terror

- the Taliban, al Qaeda, the Ba'athists in Iraq, and for the more
expansive
among us, the regimes of Syria, Iran, and Stalinist North Korea - one
finds
only two things they all hold in common: hatred for America, and support
from the Chinese Communist Party.

At the very same time we are fighting a
so-called "War on Terror" about 65%
of our consumer products are
being MADE in China.

This is VERY curious seeing that Al Quada and China
are allegedly "drinking buddies" from a sociological standpoint!

In fact, try this sometime. You would be hard pressed
this xmas season to NOT find any kind of an xmas decoration
that was NOT made in China. Take a trip to the local Dollar General
or WalMart and tell me how many things you find that came from China
on the shelves. Same goes for Home Depot, Radio Shack and Target.
I must be the last guy on my block with glass xmas balls on his
tree that were made in the USA. (..they are over 40+ years old)

Want to know another one? It is also highly likely that the
motherboard (main circuit board) inside of the computer you
are using RIGHT NOW to process and read this message
came from China. The color flat screen LCD you are reading
this likely came from Korea or Japan, but you can be sure that
the rest of the guts and the plastic case came from a factory in China.

This is why I take everything I read about China with a grain of salt.
There is no way these American companies will stop using offshore
manufacturing from China. It costs more to ship the crap here than it
does to make it. Enviornmental laws in China are also non-existent.
They use chemicals there like DDT, TCE, Lead based pigments
and colorants and others which stay over there, except for when the
pollutant dusts from the THOUSANDS of factories gets into the
upper winds and is carried over to the Western USA. Everything from
Mercury Oxides to Lead Chromates to Vinyl Chloride and Bromides.

The couldn't care less in China. They are making HARD CASH and
that's the name of the game. They are also better than the Japanese
when it comes to copying our technology and ideas. I can vividly recall
at several GSA auctions seeing Chinese bidders buying up tons of
retired electronics and manufacturing equipment from the US Govt.
No doubt their highly trained scientists had the items copied inside of
six months and are now selling the stuff back to us. I had to laugh when
I read about how Lockheed Defense Systems Div. allegedly "misplaced"
seveal thousand key files for the US Navy AEGIS Guided Missile System
and how just a few years later almost perfect WORKING copies of the system
started to appear on Chinese warships, which may be used against us later
if we ever go to war over Taiwan. (..not that I could care less about
Taiwan
mind you, the only difference between Taiwan and China is about 40 Miles
of water and the way they cook their noodles - their not worth it and they
should be part of China as they do $40B in cross-border trade btwn them
on a yearly basis already so their joined-at-the-hip economically already)

So folks, readers, lurkers. Don't worry about China or alleged Al Queda
linkages. China is going noplace. In fact in 5 Years just about everything
you will buy will come from there or India who is the next big economic
powerhouse. Learn how to profit from it instead of crying about it and you
will make good. (why do your think that 8 or the 10 major importers and
wholesale brokers of Chinese goods are run by jews.......get the picture?)

jeb's 'dirty' secret exposed in riff. www.infowars.com And there
is jeb's Crooked Real Estate dealings in Miami (look it up) and jeb and
g.w.bush picking up that bigggggg load of Cocaine at Tamiami Airport
(there is a picture/photo of that somewhere on the internet and I
understand the previous owner/Pilot of that Airplane was murdered,look
it up) and jeb's daughter,noelle bush was Arrested at least twice on
Drug Charges (look it up) and jeb's wife,columba bush tried to Smuggle
in over $19,000 worth of clothing and jewelry items into America.(look
it up) No Doubt there are Many other Scandals concerning jeb bush,,, and
he and that AWOL MORON g.w.bush let Terri die.Yes,they are Responsible
for Many Murders!
cuhulin

SeeingEyeDog - Kindly put an (OT) :
at the start of the Subject Line ~ RHF

"Kenny McCormick" wrote in message
roups.com...

In fact, try this sometime. You would be hard pressed
this xmas season to NOT find any kind of an xmas decoration
that was NOT made in China.

I need go no further than our local US Army PX. Very little in there that's
made in the US. In the electronics section, everything is made in China,
Korea, or Japan, in that order. The toy section.. all China. Clothing
section.. China, India, Pakistan. Glassware.. China, Korea, Philippines, and
some US stuff like Pyrex. Electrical and automotive, mostly China, except
the oil products, and very few tools (even the Craftsman stuff is made in
China).

Very little of consequence is made in the US anymore.