For DRM experimenters, the DW transmission using DRM on 3995 kHz is
coming in fabulously here in Detroit at 0300 UTC on 27-Dec-2005 with
no dropouts and excellent fidelity.

It's too bad that their DRM transmissions wreak such havoc with the
hams trying to operate in the 80 meter ham band!

Fred E. -- N8UC
Detroit, MI

Byung Myung Sying wrote:

For DRM experimenters, the DW transmission using DRM on 3995 kHz is
coming in fabulously here in Detroit at 0300 UTC on 27-Dec-2005 with
no dropouts and excellent fidelity.

It's too bad that their DRM transmissions wreak such havoc with the
hams trying to operate in the 80 meter ham band!

DRM = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"Byung Myung Sying" wrote in message
...
For DRM experimenters, the DW transmission using DRM on 3995 kHz is
coming in fabulously here in Detroit at 0300 UTC on 27-Dec-2005 with
no dropouts and excellent fidelity.

Is DW broadcasting in any of the languages which are likely to be understood
in the area? If so, is the programming worth listening to?


It's too bad that their DRM transmissions wreak such havoc with the
hams trying to operate in the 80 meter ham band!


I know this is a rethorical question but -- what's with those DRM guys? Why
don't they put their noisemakers on some rarely used parts of the SW
spectrum?

Frank Dresser

ate in the 80 meter ham band!
Your idiotic third grade "sloganeering" isn't going to make DRM go
away. Responding to every DRM post with "DRM = QRM" just makes you
appear annoying and foolish, it doesn't add anything to the
discussion. Grow up.

Shortwave DX'ers have always had to struggle agains QRN from the
USSR's "woodpecker", the RTTY news services etc. DRM is no better
and no worse than any of these noises.

The technology is very interesting and it does provide superb fidelity
over shortwave in a very technologically cool way. Whether it will
ever become viable is open to question due to the unpredictablility of
shortwave propagation and the enormous real estate needed for
shortwave transmitters.


DRM = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Byung Myung Sying wrote:

ate in the 80 meter ham band!
Your idiotic third grade "sloganeering" isn't going to make DRM go
away. Responding to every DRM post with "DRM = QRM" just makes you
appear annoying and foolish, it doesn't add anything to the
discussion. Grow up.

Stuff a sock in it, Einstein.

DRM = QRM

Sorry if the truth hurts, 'tard boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Byung Myung Sying wrote:
For DRM experimenters, the DW transmission using DRM on 3995 kHz is
coming in fabulously here in Detroit at 0300 UTC on 27-Dec-2005 with
no dropouts and excellent fidelity.

It's too bad that their DRM transmissions wreak such havoc with the
hams trying to operate in the 80 meter ham band!

It's only the 80m ham band in the "Americas". In Deutchland it's a
shortwave broadcast band.

Technicly hams that try to operate on that frequency are at fault, not
DW. DW is operating legaly, and therefore they are obligated to keep off
the frequency.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
The trouble with being a futurist is that when people get around to believing
you, it's too late. We lost. Google 2,000,000:Hams 0.

dxAce wrote:
DRM = QRM

No, bad operating practice is QRM, If DW broadcasts DRM on a frequency that
is legal for them to broadcast on, then hams trying to operate over it
are at fault. The 80m ham band ends at 3850kHz in most of the world.

Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
The trouble with being a futurist is that when people get around to believing
you, it's too late. We lost. Google 2,000,000:Hams 0.

Frank Dresser wrote:

DRM noise may be no worse than other sources of interference were, but there
is no longer any justification for such interference. There's plenty of
open spectrum now. The DRMers ought to arrange their tests outside the ham
and SW broadcast bands.

What? First of all, they are operating outside of the ham bands. It's not
DW's fault that hams are allowed to operate over it's allocated frequencies
and don't bother to move.

As for being outside of the SW broadcast bands, where should they go?
3995kHz is exactly where they should be.

Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
The trouble with being a futurist is that when people get around to believing
you, it's too late. We lost. Google 2,000,000:Hams 0.

RHF wrote:
FD - Yes - Designate One Shortwave Band for the
Next Five Years for DRM Broadcast Testing. ~ RHF

Which one? With propigation the way it is, there won't be a decent single
band until almost 2011.

U.S. hams are going to have to get over your "we own the world" ideas
and pretty quickly at that. With the FCCs prediliction to BPL, there
won't be a useable HF ham band in a few years.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
The trouble with being a futurist is that when people get around to believing
you, it's too late. We lost. Google 2,000,000:Hams 0.

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote:

Frank Dresser wrote:

DRM noise may be no worse than other sources of interference were, but there
is no longer any justification for such interference. There's plenty of
open spectrum now. The DRMers ought to arrange their tests outside the ham
and SW broadcast bands.

What? First of all, they are operating outside of the ham bands. It's not
DW's fault that hams are allowed to operate over it's allocated frequencies
and don't bother to move.

As for being outside of the SW broadcast bands, where should they go?
3995kHz is exactly where they should be.

BS. 3995 would certainly be OK if it didn't propagate over here!

At any rate, DRM is busy chewing up other bands as well.

DRM = QRM

So take your DRM and stick it where the sun don't shine.

dxAce
Michigan
USA