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Old December 27th 05, 03:23 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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For DRM experimenters, the DW transmission using DRM on 3995 kHz is
coming in fabulously here in Detroit at 0300 UTC on 27-Dec-2005 with
no dropouts and excellent fidelity.

It's too bad that their DRM transmissions wreak such havoc with the
hams trying to operate in the 80 meter ham band!

Fred E. -- N8UC
Detroit, MI
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Old December 27th 05, 03:26 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Byung Myung Sying wrote:

For DRM experimenters, the DW transmission using DRM on 3995 kHz is
coming in fabulously here in Detroit at 0300 UTC on 27-Dec-2005 with
no dropouts and excellent fidelity.

It's too bad that their DRM transmissions wreak such havoc with the
hams trying to operate in the 80 meter ham band!


DRM = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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Old December 28th 05, 04:39 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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ate in the 80 meter ham band!
Your idiotic third grade "sloganeering" isn't going to make DRM go
away. Responding to every DRM post with "DRM = QRM" just makes you
appear annoying and foolish, it doesn't add anything to the
discussion. Grow up.

Shortwave DX'ers have always had to struggle agains QRN from the
USSR's "woodpecker", the RTTY news services etc. DRM is no better
and no worse than any of these noises.

The technology is very interesting and it does provide superb fidelity
over shortwave in a very technologically cool way. Whether it will
ever become viable is open to question due to the unpredictablility of
shortwave propagation and the enormous real estate needed for
shortwave transmitters.


DRM = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
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Old December 28th 05, 12:38 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Byung Myung Sying wrote:

ate in the 80 meter ham band!
Your idiotic third grade "sloganeering" isn't going to make DRM go
away. Responding to every DRM post with "DRM = QRM" just makes you
appear annoying and foolish, it doesn't add anything to the
discussion. Grow up.


Stuff a sock in it, Einstein.

DRM = QRM

Sorry if the truth hurts, 'tard boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



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Old December 28th 05, 01:30 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
Geoffrey S. Mendelson
 
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dxAce wrote:
DRM = QRM


No, bad operating practice is QRM, If DW broadcasts DRM on a frequency that
is legal for them to broadcast on, then hams trying to operate over it
are at fault. The 80m ham band ends at 3850kHz in most of the world.

Geoff.
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Old December 28th 05, 05:18 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
DRM = QRM


No, bad operating practice is QRM, If DW broadcasts DRM on a frequency that
is legal for them to broadcast on, then hams trying to operate over it
are at fault. The 80m ham band ends at 3850kHz in most of the world.


But not here and their signal propagates VERY well here. I'd almost say that they
are in violation of the rules in that regard.

At any rate, a stupid method of transmission that renders 10 kHz unusable is not
a very good idea!

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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Old December 27th 05, 04:35 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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"Byung Myung Sying" wrote in message
...
For DRM experimenters, the DW transmission using DRM on 3995 kHz is
coming in fabulously here in Detroit at 0300 UTC on 27-Dec-2005 with
no dropouts and excellent fidelity.


Is DW broadcasting in any of the languages which are likely to be understood
in the area? If so, is the programming worth listening to?


It's too bad that their DRM transmissions wreak such havoc with the
hams trying to operate in the 80 meter ham band!


I know this is a rethorical question but -- what's with those DRM guys? Why
don't they put their noisemakers on some rarely used parts of the SW
spectrum?

Frank Dresser



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Old December 28th 05, 01:30 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Byung Myung Sying wrote:
For DRM experimenters, the DW transmission using DRM on 3995 kHz is
coming in fabulously here in Detroit at 0300 UTC on 27-Dec-2005 with
no dropouts and excellent fidelity.

It's too bad that their DRM transmissions wreak such havoc with the
hams trying to operate in the 80 meter ham band!


It's only the 80m ham band in the "Americas". In Deutchland it's a
shortwave broadcast band.

Technicly hams that try to operate on that frequency are at fault, not
DW. DW is operating legaly, and therefore they are obligated to keep off
the frequency.

Geoff.

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you, it's too late. We lost. Google 2,000,000:Hams 0.
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