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Robert11 January 13th 06 04:58 PM

Electrical "Tie Wraps" Usage Outdoors Question
 
Hello:

I expect to put up a simple receive only antenna using a fair number of
"Tie-Wraps" to hold the wire against a few standoffs and supports.

I am not sure, but I guess the HD variety, or T&Betts brand, of Tie-Wraps
are made from Nylon ?
But really not sure.

How well do these generally hold up outdoors ?

Do they become brittle and decompose (a bit) after a while and break ?

Are there better types available ?
etc. ?

Much thanks,
Bob



[email protected] January 13th 06 05:02 PM

Electrical "Tie Wraps" Usage Outdoors Question
 
They get brittle eventually. The black tie wraps seem to hold up better
outdoors.

Robert11 wrote:
Hello:

I expect to put up a simple receive only antenna using a fair number of
"Tie-Wraps" to hold the wire against a few standoffs and supports.

I am not sure, but I guess the HD variety, or T&Betts brand, of Tie-Wraps
are made from Nylon ?
But really not sure.

How well do these generally hold up outdoors ?

Do they become brittle and decompose (a bit) after a while and break ?

Are there better types available ?
etc. ?

Much thanks,
Bob



David January 13th 06 05:38 PM

Electrical "Tie Wraps" Usage Outdoors Question
 
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:58:40 -0500, "Robert11"
wrote:

Hello:

I expect to put up a simple receive only antenna using a fair number of
"Tie-Wraps" to hold the wire against a few standoffs and supports.

I am not sure, but I guess the HD variety, or T&Betts brand, of Tie-Wraps
are made from Nylon ?
But really not sure.

How well do these generally hold up outdoors ?

Do they become brittle and decompose (a bit) after a while and break ?

Are there better types available ?
etc. ?

Much thanks,
Bob


The Outdoor ones say ''UV'' in bold letters on the package.


Mark Zenier January 13th 06 07:40 PM

Electrical "Tie Wraps" Usage Outdoors Question
 
In article ,
Robert11 wrote:
Hello:

I expect to put up a simple receive only antenna using a fair number of
"Tie-Wraps" to hold the wire against a few standoffs and supports.

I am not sure, but I guess the HD variety, or T&Betts brand, of Tie-Wraps
are made from Nylon ?
But really not sure.

How well do these generally hold up outdoors ?

Do they become brittle and decompose (a bit) after a while and break ?

Are there better types available ?
etc. ?


I use them a lot in gardening. (They're great for stopping a pinhole leak
in one of those black porous soaker hoses). The white ones, one year or
two summers at the most in not very sunny Seattle. Snap, crumble, crunch.

Black ones, especially if labeled UV resistant (or UV Black), have carbon
black or some other pigment in them and will last longer. The ones I
got two years ago at Fry's seem to be standing up better, but that's
not much of a test.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


David January 14th 06 01:48 PM

Electrical "Tie Wraps" Usage Outdoors Question
 
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:10:31 -0800, Justice Gustine
wrote:

"Robert11" wrote:

Hello:

I expect to put up a simple receive only antenna using a fair number of
"Tie-Wraps" to hold the wire against a few standoffs and supports.

I am not sure, but I guess the HD variety, or T&Betts brand, of Tie-Wraps
are made from Nylon ?
But really not sure.

How well do these generally hold up outdoors ?

Do they become brittle and decompose (a bit) after a while and break ?

Are there better types available ?
etc. ?

Much thanks,
Bob


Just agreeing with other posts - black UV rated hold up well outdoors.
T&B is a very good brand.

Don't use natural nylon or neon ones. Don't cinch them down so tight
that they alter the diameter of the coax.

Does Thomas and Betts still make them? Tyton is good.


David January 14th 06 04:25 PM

Electrical "Tie Wraps" Usage Outdoors Question
 
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:40:44 GMT, (Mark Zenier)
wrote:

In article ,
Robert11 wrote:
Hello:

I expect to put up a simple receive only antenna using a fair number of
"Tie-Wraps" to hold the wire against a few standoffs and supports.

I am not sure, but I guess the HD variety, or T&Betts brand, of Tie-Wraps
are made from Nylon ?
But really not sure.

How well do these generally hold up outdoors ?

Do they become brittle and decompose (a bit) after a while and break ?

Are there better types available ?
etc. ?


I use them a lot in gardening. (They're great for stopping a pinhole leak
in one of those black porous soaker hoses). The white ones, one year or
two summers at the most in not very sunny Seattle. Snap, crumble, crunch.

Black ones, especially if labeled UV resistant (or UV Black), have carbon
black or some other pigment in them and will last longer. The ones I
got two years ago at Fry's seem to be standing up better, but that's
not much of a test.

Mark Zenier

Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

Home Depot sells green ones in the Garden section that seem to be
suitable for outdoor use. Light Duty and very cheap.


[email protected] January 14th 06 08:02 PM

Electrical "Tie Wraps" Usage Outdoors Question
 
At the worst possible price, those wide black tie wraps are only 25
cents. If you are going to make a coax balun or whatever, it makes
sense to get a tie wrap that won't bust after a year in the sun.

Due to their political contributions, Home Depot is not on the approved
vendor list.

David wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:40:44 GMT, (Mark Zenier)
wrote:

In article ,
Robert11 wrote:
Hello:

I expect to put up a simple receive only antenna using a fair number of
"Tie-Wraps" to hold the wire against a few standoffs and supports.

I am not sure, but I guess the HD variety, or T&Betts brand, of Tie-Wraps
are made from Nylon ?
But really not sure.

How well do these generally hold up outdoors ?

Do they become brittle and decompose (a bit) after a while and break ?

Are there better types available ?
etc. ?


I use them a lot in gardening. (They're great for stopping a pinhole leak
in one of those black porous soaker hoses). The white ones, one year or
two summers at the most in not very sunny Seattle. Snap, crumble, crunch.

Black ones, especially if labeled UV resistant (or UV Black), have carbon
black or some other pigment in them and will last longer. The ones I
got two years ago at Fry's seem to be standing up better, but that's
not much of a test.

Mark Zenier

Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

Home Depot sells green ones in the Garden section that seem to be
suitable for outdoor use. Light Duty and very cheap.



dxAce January 14th 06 08:06 PM

Electrical "Tie Wraps" Usage Outdoors Question
 


wrote:

At the worst possible price, those wide black tie wraps are only 25
cents. If you are going to make a coax balun or whatever, it makes
sense to get a tie wrap that won't bust after a year in the sun.

Due to their political contributions, Home Depot is not on the approved
vendor list.


Due to your Liberal 'tard boy idiocy, you are not on the approved poster list.

LMFAO yet again at the stupid stem.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] January 14th 06 08:10 PM

Electrical "Tie Wraps" Usage Outdoors Question
 
Sadly, they let anyone post on usenet, even DxAss.
dxAce wrote:
wrote:

At the worst possible price, those wide black tie wraps are only 25
cents. If you are going to make a coax balun or whatever, it makes
sense to get a tie wrap that won't bust after a year in the sun.

Due to their political contributions, Home Depot is not on the approved
vendor list.


Due to your Liberal 'tard boy idiocy, you are not on the approved poster list.

LMFAO yet again at the stupid stem.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce January 14th 06 08:13 PM

Electrical "Tie Wraps" Usage Outdoors Question
 


wrote:

Sadly, they let anyone post on usenet, even DxAss.


Yes, but I'm not a 'tard boy!

LMFAO yet again at the clueless stem.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




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