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Old January 13th 06, 04:58 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Hello:

I expect to put up a simple receive only antenna using a fair number of
"Tie-Wraps" to hold the wire against a few standoffs and supports.

I am not sure, but I guess the HD variety, or T&Betts brand, of Tie-Wraps
are made from Nylon ?
But really not sure.

How well do these generally hold up outdoors ?

Do they become brittle and decompose (a bit) after a while and break ?

Are there better types available ?
etc. ?

Much thanks,
Bob


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Old January 13th 06, 05:02 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
 
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They get brittle eventually. The black tie wraps seem to hold up better
outdoors.

Robert11 wrote:
Hello:

I expect to put up a simple receive only antenna using a fair number of
"Tie-Wraps" to hold the wire against a few standoffs and supports.

I am not sure, but I guess the HD variety, or T&Betts brand, of Tie-Wraps
are made from Nylon ?
But really not sure.

How well do these generally hold up outdoors ?

Do they become brittle and decompose (a bit) after a while and break ?

Are there better types available ?
etc. ?

Much thanks,
Bob


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Old January 13th 06, 05:38 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:58:40 -0500, "Robert11"
wrote:

Hello:

I expect to put up a simple receive only antenna using a fair number of
"Tie-Wraps" to hold the wire against a few standoffs and supports.

I am not sure, but I guess the HD variety, or T&Betts brand, of Tie-Wraps
are made from Nylon ?
But really not sure.

How well do these generally hold up outdoors ?

Do they become brittle and decompose (a bit) after a while and break ?

Are there better types available ?
etc. ?

Much thanks,
Bob


The Outdoor ones say ''UV'' in bold letters on the package.

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Old January 13th 06, 07:40 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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In article ,
Robert11 wrote:
Hello:

I expect to put up a simple receive only antenna using a fair number of
"Tie-Wraps" to hold the wire against a few standoffs and supports.

I am not sure, but I guess the HD variety, or T&Betts brand, of Tie-Wraps
are made from Nylon ?
But really not sure.

How well do these generally hold up outdoors ?

Do they become brittle and decompose (a bit) after a while and break ?

Are there better types available ?
etc. ?


I use them a lot in gardening. (They're great for stopping a pinhole leak
in one of those black porous soaker hoses). The white ones, one year or
two summers at the most in not very sunny Seattle. Snap, crumble, crunch.

Black ones, especially if labeled UV resistant (or UV Black), have carbon
black or some other pigment in them and will last longer. The ones I
got two years ago at Fry's seem to be standing up better, but that's
not much of a test.

Mark Zenier
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Old January 14th 06, 01:48 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:10:31 -0800, Justice Gustine
wrote:

"Robert11" wrote:

Hello:

I expect to put up a simple receive only antenna using a fair number of
"Tie-Wraps" to hold the wire against a few standoffs and supports.

I am not sure, but I guess the HD variety, or T&Betts brand, of Tie-Wraps
are made from Nylon ?
But really not sure.

How well do these generally hold up outdoors ?

Do they become brittle and decompose (a bit) after a while and break ?

Are there better types available ?
etc. ?

Much thanks,
Bob


Just agreeing with other posts - black UV rated hold up well outdoors.
T&B is a very good brand.

Don't use natural nylon or neon ones. Don't cinch them down so tight
that they alter the diameter of the coax.

Does Thomas and Betts still make them? Tyton is good.



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Old January 14th 06, 08:02 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
 
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At the worst possible price, those wide black tie wraps are only 25
cents. If you are going to make a coax balun or whatever, it makes
sense to get a tie wrap that won't bust after a year in the sun.

Due to their political contributions, Home Depot is not on the approved
vendor list.

David wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:40:44 GMT, (Mark Zenier)
wrote:

In article ,
Robert11 wrote:
Hello:

I expect to put up a simple receive only antenna using a fair number of
"Tie-Wraps" to hold the wire against a few standoffs and supports.

I am not sure, but I guess the HD variety, or T&Betts brand, of Tie-Wraps
are made from Nylon ?
But really not sure.

How well do these generally hold up outdoors ?

Do they become brittle and decompose (a bit) after a while and break ?

Are there better types available ?
etc. ?


I use them a lot in gardening. (They're great for stopping a pinhole leak
in one of those black porous soaker hoses). The white ones, one year or
two summers at the most in not very sunny Seattle. Snap, crumble, crunch.

Black ones, especially if labeled UV resistant (or UV Black), have carbon
black or some other pigment in them and will last longer. The ones I
got two years ago at Fry's seem to be standing up better, but that's
not much of a test.

Mark Zenier

Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

Home Depot sells green ones in the Garden section that seem to be
suitable for outdoor use. Light Duty and very cheap.


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Sadly, they let anyone post on usenet, even DxAss.


Yes, but I'm not a 'tard boy!

LMFAO yet again at the clueless stem.

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