"dxAce" wrote in message
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an old friend wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"John S." wrote:

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Yep, the folks who cannot or will not take the time to learn the code
come up with
excuses just like the one you presented all the time.

and trolls like you keep one ranting and raving butthe FCC will decide
against you just not soon enough

The FCC may indeed rule, but that ruling won't change the facts!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

You sound like the atypical code snob Steve. Getting rid of the code req. is
the best thing the FCC has done in a long time.

Typeing (Keying) words on computer keyboards shouldn't be any more
difficult than learning Keying (Typeing) Morse Code.
cuhulin

Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Yep, the folks who cannot or will not take the time to learn the code
come up with excuses just like the one you presented all the time.

No matter what you think it's going to happen. The best thing you can
do IMHO, is to help make the new no-code hams comfortable in the hobby.

If you feel that morse code is an essential part of ham radio, teach
morse code classes. Listen on the Novice/tech CW bands. Next time you
hear a bad sounding CQ at barely five wpm, don't sneer and move on,
work the guy. Do it slowly, carefully and curteously.

If you want to have new hams stay hams and to use CW, make them feel good
about it. Next time you talk to someone on a repeater who is a new ham,
offer to elmer them. You can start with CW and move up to building an
oscilator that they can use to key their HT.

That kills two birds with one stone to use an archaic and cruel sounding
metaphor. They get to learn CW over the air for a small expense and
learn the joy of building something they can use.

BTW both Japan and the Soviet Union had no code HF licenses since the
1950s, and no one ever seemed to mind.

73,

Geoff.


" BTW both Japan and the Soviet Union had no code HF licenses since the
1950s, and no one ever seemed to mind."

Really? Thats encouraging to know, seeing as there are plenty of CW JA's to
work. I guess they got interested in CW without being forced to learn it in
order to get their tickets. Hopefully the same will hold true here in the
U.S. if/when the FCC drops the code requirement altogether.

CW = my primary mode

- Matt

MnMikew wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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an old friend wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"John S." wrote:

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Yep, the folks who cannot or will not take the time to learn the code
come up with
excuses just like the one you presented all the time.

and trolls like you keep one ranting and raving butthe FCC will decide
against you just not soon enough

The FCC may indeed rule, but that ruling won't change the facts!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

You sound like the atypical code snob Steve.

Nothing snobbish about it at all.

Getting rid of the code req. is
the best thing the FCC has done in a long time.

I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"John S." wrote in message
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wrote:
I just got me Tech license this weekend. Now I need to look into
actually purchasing some equiptment. I don't have much space ( or
money ) and can't put a big atenna on our roof. Could you make some
suggestions? Also, what equiptment is required to run off your
computer??

Also, does the general license still require that you pass Morse Code
Exam first.?? I"m hearing lots of debate over that. Thanks.

Yes, unfortunately that pointless anachronism is still required of
prospective hams for the general license.


I can copy around 10wpm and I'm not a ham. It's not hard but it does take
practice and a dedicated will to learn. Anybody can learn to copy 5wpm if
the spend a week or two in their spare time. It helps if you have a person
that knows CW helping you. Most radio clubs give classes. I don't understand
why a ham wouldn't want to know it and gain full privileges? CW is kinda
neat when you learn it and it is kinda a right of passage type thing. I
wanted to learn it just to kinda know what was being said in that mode.

B.H.

"dxAce" wrote in message
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You sound like the atypical code snob Steve.

Nothing snobbish about it at all.

Getting rid of the code req. is
the best thing the FCC has done in a long time.

I suppose it is for those who are unwilling to learn it!

You seem to have this idea that no-code hams are somehow "dumber" that ones
who know it.

Yes, 5 wpm is not such a difficult task to master. There is a sense of
accomplishment getting the code ticket as with anything that takes a
little effort.

The fcc is just going to turn the HAM bands into another place for
morons to hang out like 11m.

There are arguments for code. It's more reliable and takes up a lot
less bandwdth.

N9NEO

Oh yea, ARRL has code practice schedule at www.arrl.org

I used that and NU-Morse to brush up before test. Nu-morse is awsum
program that has 30 day free trial I think.

73
N9NEO

"N9NEO" wrote in message
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The fcc is just going to turn the HAM bands into another place for
morons to hang out like 11m.

I listen to the ham bands all the time, there's no shortage of morons on
there now.

"MnMikew" wrote in message

I listen to the ham bands all the time, there's no shortage of morons on
there now.



I agree on that also. But there are allot more good than bad. It's just that
it only takes a few bad apples to smell up the place.

B.H.