Thanks Telamon.
Lenny

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Lenny" wrote:

OK, I'll admit it. I don't know what people are talking about when
they say the E1 doesn't have an AM antenna.

People have stated that the E1 does not have an internal "ferrite rod"
antenna inside.

Doesn't it have a whip antenna.

Yes.

What more could you want?

An internal "ferrite rod" antenna inside.

What the heck is a "ferrite rod antenna" anyway?

It's a closed loop type antenna utilizing a high permeance core (the
ferrite) in order to take up less space.

And what does it do differently than the whip?

1. More convenient to use as you don't have to have the long whip
sticking out when you carry it around.

2. The whip is omnidirectional and the loop ferrite rod antenna has two
nulls in the pattern that you could use to null out a competing station
of local noise source, which could improve your reception.

3. The ferrite loop is less susceptible to pick up local noise sources
being sensitive to the magnetic field component whereas the whip is
sensitive to the electric field.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article ,
"Lenny" wrote:

Thanks Telamon.
Lenny

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Lenny" wrote:

OK, I'll admit it. I don't know what people are talking about when
they say the E1 doesn't have an AM antenna.

People have stated that the E1 does not have an internal "ferrite rod"
antenna inside.

Doesn't it have a whip antenna.

Yes.

What more could you want?

An internal "ferrite rod" antenna inside.

What the heck is a "ferrite rod antenna" anyway?

It's a closed loop type antenna utilizing a high permeance core (the
ferrite) in order to take up less space.

And what does it do differently than the whip?

1. More convenient to use as you don't have to have the long whip
sticking out when you carry it around.

2. The whip is omnidirectional and the loop ferrite rod antenna has two
nulls in the pattern that you could use to null out a competing station
of local noise source, which could improve your reception.

3. The ferrite loop is less susceptible to pick up local noise sources
being sensitive to the magnetic field component whereas the whip is
sensitive to the electric field.

No problem Lenny.

#2 Should have been "competing station or local noise source."

I need a Usenet editor.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"Lenny" wrote:

Thanks Telamon.
Lenny

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Lenny" wrote:

OK, I'll admit it. I don't know what people are talking about when
they say the E1 doesn't have an AM antenna.

People have stated that the E1 does not have an internal "ferrite rod"
antenna inside.

Doesn't it have a whip antenna.

Yes.

What more could you want?

An internal "ferrite rod" antenna inside.

What the heck is a "ferrite rod antenna" anyway?

It's a closed loop type antenna utilizing a high permeance core (the
ferrite) in order to take up less space.

And what does it do differently than the whip?

1. More convenient to use as you don't have to have the long whip
sticking out when you carry it around.

2. The whip is omnidirectional and the loop ferrite rod antenna has two
nulls in the pattern that you could use to null out a competing station
of local noise source, which could improve your reception.

3. The ferrite loop is less susceptible to pick up local noise sources
being sensitive to the magnetic field component whereas the whip is
sensitive to the electric field.

No problem Lenny.

#2 Should have been "competing station or local noise source."

I need a Usenet editor.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

The lack of a ferrite antenna in the E1 is a deal-breaker for me.
Monitoring Times reported that the dot matrix display generated too
much noise and made the implementation of a ferrite antenna
impractical. I'm hoping a future revision of the receiver might
include a ferrite rod.

mike0219116 wrote:

The lack of a ferrite antenna in the E1 is a deal-breaker for me.
Monitoring Times reported that the dot matrix display generated too
much noise and made the implementation of a ferrite antenna
impractical. I'm hoping a future revision of the receiver might
include a ferrite rod.


There should be some way of wiring up a ferrite core antenna in an
exterior box. The thing could be rotated easily and kept a few feet away
from the display. A bit of wiring to the external antenna connection and
you've got everything.


http://user.netonecom.net/~swordman/...op-article.htm

or:

http://snipurl.com/m07n




mike

In article .com,
"mike0219116" wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"Lenny" wrote:

Thanks Telamon.
Lenny

"Telamon" wrote in message

...
In article ,
"Lenny" wrote:

OK, I'll admit it. I don't know what people are talking about when
they say the E1 doesn't have an AM antenna.

People have stated that the E1 does not have an internal "ferrite rod"
antenna inside.

Doesn't it have a whip antenna.

Yes.

What more could you want?

An internal "ferrite rod" antenna inside.

What the heck is a "ferrite rod antenna" anyway?

It's a closed loop type antenna utilizing a high permeance core (the
ferrite) in order to take up less space.

And what does it do differently than the whip?

1. More convenient to use as you don't have to have the long whip
sticking out when you carry it around.

2. The whip is omnidirectional and the loop ferrite rod antenna has two
nulls in the pattern that you could use to null out a competing station
of local noise source, which could improve your reception.

3. The ferrite loop is less susceptible to pick up local noise sources
being sensitive to the magnetic field component whereas the whip is
sensitive to the electric field.

No problem Lenny.

#2 Should have been "competing station or local noise source."

I need a Usenet editor.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

The lack of a ferrite antenna in the E1 is a deal-breaker for me.
Monitoring Times reported that the dot matrix display generated too
much noise and made the implementation of a ferrite antenna
impractical. I'm hoping a future revision of the receiver might
include a ferrite rod.

The radio has an external antenna jack that you could use to connect a
small amplified loop antenna. Located a few feet away from the E1 so it
does not pick up the display noise you could point the loop by hand and
I would like that better than having to turn the radio itself in a
certain direction to null out a competing on-channel station or local
noise source. It's more more money and trouble though.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:

The radio has an external antenna jack that you could use to connect a
small amplified loop antenna. Located a few feet away from the E1 so it
does not pick up the display noise you could point the loop by hand and
I would like that better than having to turn the radio itself in a
certain direction to null out a competing on-channel station or local
noise source. It's more more money and trouble though.




I use a McKay Dymek DA5 shielded loop antenna for MW reception here,
on the external antenna jack of my Fanfare FTA-100. It's a little more
involved than a built-in but the results are worth it. I can null out
competing/interfering stations and noise sources. And peak signals to
maximize noise quieting. Especially on AM stereo sources, this can be a
plus.

The antenna works well with my Grundig's too.

But by having the antenna remotely situated from the tuner, I can
select a lowest noise location for the antenna, which, with the large
number of sources I have in the building, is getting to become more of a
challenge every day.

Lack of an internal ferrite antenna is, at best, a nuisance.

But I've been thinking about something a little more remote.
Something with a pickup outside the building, which is impractical with
the DA-5. Anyone have experience with the CCrane twin coil AM antenna
(formerly Justice antenna?)

Judging by the installation manual, it may be the right solution not
only for me here, but for E1 users who would prefer the noise benefits
of a ferrite antenna.

Any comments from experience would be welcome.


p

Yeah well, if Eton hadn't pushed this receiver into the marketplace at
such manic, breakneck speed, then maybe they'd have had time to include
a ferrite antenna and make the display quieter. Better to take your
time and do it right than launch a product prematurely--even if it
means missing a deadline or two.

Sarcasm?

http://www.radiointel.com/review-etone1.htm

"Originally unveiled in prototype form at the Consumer Electronics Show in Chicago in 1996 as the Grundig Satellit 900, the E1 has followed a long road from those first mockup models to commercial realization."

weatherall wrote:

Wrote:
Yeah well, if Eton hadn't pushed this receiver into the marketplace at
such manic, breakneck speed, then maybe they'd have had time to
include
a ferrite antenna and make the display quieter. Better to take your
time and do it right than launch a product prematurely--even if it
means missing a deadline or two.

Sarcasm?

http://www.radiointel.com/review-etone1.htm

"Originally unveiled in prototype form at the Consumer Electronics Show
in Chicago in 1996 as the Grundig Satellit 900, the E1 has followed a
long road from those first mockup models to commercial realization."

Yeah, the long and winding road to recall...

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On 28 Jan 2006 07:00:37 -0800, wrote:

Yeah well, if Eton hadn't pushed this receiver into the marketplace at
such manic, breakneck speed, then maybe they'd have had time to include
a ferrite antenna and make the display quieter. Better to take your
time and do it right than launch a product prematurely--even if it
means missing a deadline or two.

I hope you're being facetious.............this radio was being
announced as "soon to be released" for over 10 years beginning with
the moniker "Grundig SAT 900."