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Tonight (3-Feb-2006) I heard chimes underneath the BBC on 5975 kHz,
like a different (weaker) station was on the same frequency. Didn't
recognize the theme but it sounded vaguely carribean (maybe steel drums
and not chimes, it was the same note repeated three times and then a
step up, repeat.) Any idea what it was?

Is there (on the net maybe) a catalog of the themes that SW
broadcasters use before their broadcasts?

Tim.

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Is there (on the net maybe) a catalog of the themes that SW
broadcasters use before their broadcasts?


http://www.intervalsignals.net/

Jackie


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Is there (on the net maybe) a catalog of the themes that SW
broadcasters use before their broadcasts?


http://www.intervalsignals.net/

Jackie

Thanks for the link !



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wrote:
Tonight (3-Feb-2006) I heard chimes underneath the BBC on 5975 kHz,
like a different (weaker) station was on the same frequency. Didn't
recognize the theme but it sounded vaguely carribean (maybe steel drums
and not chimes, it was the same note repeated three times and then a
step up, repeat.) Any idea what it was?

Is there (on the net maybe) a catalog of the themes that SW
broadcasters use before their broadcasts?


Tong Tong Ting. Tong Tong Ting?

That's the VOA transmitter in Delano, California targeted at Central
America stepping on the tail of the Montsinery (French Guiana?)
transmitter targeted at the Caribean.

Up here in Seattle, it stomps the hell out of 5975 for the last 5-7
minutes of the 02:00 hour, when they warm the transmitter up and then
send the tones. Montsinery has been S9 and Delano us usually 10 dB
stronger. Right off the back of the beam, I guess.

And then at 04:00, 5975 shifts over to Radio Netherlands in Dutch
(from Bonaire, I think) in parallel with 6165.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)



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Mark Zenier wrote:

In article .com,
wrote:
Tonight (3-Feb-2006) I heard chimes underneath the BBC on 5975 kHz,
like a different (weaker) station was on the same frequency. Didn't
recognize the theme but it sounded vaguely carribean (maybe steel drums
and not chimes, it was the same note repeated three times and then a
step up, repeat.) Any idea what it was?

Is there (on the net maybe) a catalog of the themes that SW
broadcasters use before their broadcasts?


Tong Tong Ting. Tong Tong Ting?

That's the VOA transmitter in Delano, California targeted at Central
America stepping on the tail of the Montsinery (French Guiana?)
transmitter targeted at the Caribean.

Up here in Seattle, it stomps the hell out of 5975 for the last 5-7
minutes of the 02:00 hour, when they warm the transmitter up and then
send the tones. Montsinery has been S9 and Delano us usually 10 dB
stronger. Right off the back of the beam, I guess.

And then at 04:00, 5975 shifts over to Radio Netherlands in Dutch
(from Bonaire, I think) in parallel with 6165.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


Isn't that the VOA broadcast in Spanish to Central America on 5995? I
still think that the main point of the Delano bc is to wipe out the
Cubans on 6000 (which used to be an excellent freq for NAm listening)
thus forcing anybody who wants to listen to Havana to use 9820. But
wiping out a signal 20khz away is HUGE overkill.

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In article ,
running dogg wrote:
Mark Zenier wrote:

In article .com,
wrote:
Tonight (3-Feb-2006) I heard chimes underneath the BBC on 5975 kHz,
like a different (weaker) station was on the same frequency. Didn't
recognize the theme but it sounded vaguely carribean (maybe steel drums
and not chimes, it was the same note repeated three times and then a
step up, repeat.) Any idea what it was?

Is there (on the net maybe) a catalog of the themes that SW
broadcasters use before their broadcasts?


Tong Tong Ting. Tong Tong Ting?

That's the VOA transmitter in Delano, California targeted at Central
America stepping on the tail of the Montsinery (French Guiana?)
transmitter targeted at the Caribean.

Up here in Seattle, it stomps the hell out of 5975 for the last 5-7
minutes of the 02:00 hour, when they warm the transmitter up and then
send the tones. Montsinery has been S9 and Delano us usually 10 dB
stronger. Right off the back of the beam, I guess.

And then at 04:00, 5975 shifts over to Radio Netherlands in Dutch
(from Bonaire, I think) in parallel with 6165.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


Isn't that the VOA broadcast in Spanish to Central America on 5995? I
still think that the main point of the Delano bc is to wipe out the
Cubans on 6000 (which used to be an excellent freq for NAm listening)
thus forcing anybody who wants to listen to Havana to use 9820. But
wiping out a signal 20khz away is HUGE overkill.


They're both there at the same time. I think 5995 is stronger.
(BBC in Spanish?).

Mark Zenier

Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


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Mark Zenier wrote:

In article ,
running dogg wrote:
Mark Zenier wrote:

In article .com,
wrote:
Tonight (3-Feb-2006) I heard chimes underneath the BBC on 5975 kHz,
like a different (weaker) station was on the same frequency. Didn't
recognize the theme but it sounded vaguely carribean (maybe steel drums
and not chimes, it was the same note repeated three times and then a
step up, repeat.) Any idea what it was?

Is there (on the net maybe) a catalog of the themes that SW
broadcasters use before their broadcasts?

Tong Tong Ting. Tong Tong Ting?

That's the VOA transmitter in Delano, California targeted at Central
America stepping on the tail of the Montsinery (French Guiana?)
transmitter targeted at the Caribean.

Up here in Seattle, it stomps the hell out of 5975 for the last 5-7
minutes of the 02:00 hour, when they warm the transmitter up and then
send the tones. Montsinery has been S9 and Delano us usually 10 dB
stronger. Right off the back of the beam, I guess.

And then at 04:00, 5975 shifts over to Radio Netherlands in Dutch
(from Bonaire, I think) in parallel with 6165.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


Isn't that the VOA broadcast in Spanish to Central America on 5995? I
still think that the main point of the Delano bc is to wipe out the
Cubans on 6000 (which used to be an excellent freq for NAm listening)
thus forcing anybody who wants to listen to Havana to use 9820. But
wiping out a signal 20khz away is HUGE overkill.


They're both there at the same time. I think 5995 is stronger.
(BBC in Spanish?).


My bad, it's the BBC. Don't know why I wrote VOA. Apparently the signal
is in the background of BBC 5975, then oddly enough disappears for 20
khz, then reappears on 5995. It's the same signal, I checked, but it's
not audible on 5985. I wonder if it's a transmitter problem rather than
just splatter.

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In article ,
running dogg wrote:
Mark Zenier wrote:

In article ,
running dogg wrote:
Mark Zenier wrote:

In article .com,
wrote:
Tonight (3-Feb-2006) I heard chimes underneath the BBC on 5975 kHz,
like a different (weaker) station was on the same frequency. Didn't
recognize the theme but it sounded vaguely carribean (maybe steel drums
and not chimes, it was the same note repeated three times and then a
step up, repeat.) Any idea what it was?

Is there (on the net maybe) a catalog of the themes that SW
broadcasters use before their broadcasts?

Tong Tong Ting. Tong Tong Ting?

That's the VOA transmitter in Delano, California targeted at Central
America stepping on the tail of the Montsinery (French Guiana?)
transmitter targeted at the Caribean.

Up here in Seattle, it stomps the hell out of 5975 for the last 5-7
minutes of the 02:00 hour, when they warm the transmitter up and then
send the tones. Montsinery has been S9 and Delano us usually 10 dB
stronger. Right off the back of the beam, I guess.

And then at 04:00, 5975 shifts over to Radio Netherlands in Dutch
(from Bonaire, I think) in parallel with 6165.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


Isn't that the VOA broadcast in Spanish to Central America on 5995? I
still think that the main point of the Delano bc is to wipe out the
Cubans on 6000 (which used to be an excellent freq for NAm listening)
thus forcing anybody who wants to listen to Havana to use 9820. But
wiping out a signal 20khz away is HUGE overkill.


They're both there at the same time. I think 5995 is stronger.
(BBC in Spanish?).


My bad, it's the BBC. Don't know why I wrote VOA. Apparently the signal
is in the background of BBC 5975, then oddly enough disappears for 20
khz, then reappears on 5995. It's the same signal, I checked, but it's
not audible on 5985. I wonder if it's a transmitter problem rather than
just splatter.


I think it's just two transmitters at Delano, one will be doing the
BBC Spanish on 5995, and the other BBC English on 5975. They're warming
them up at the same time at the same site, so they're probably using
the same canned audio signal.

Mark Zenier

Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

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Mark asked:

Tong Tong Ting. Tong Tong Ting?


Well, I heard it as "Tong Tong Tong Ting."

That's the VOA transmitter in Delano, California
targeted at Central America stepping on the
tail of the Montsinery (French Guiana?)
transmitter targeted at the Caribean.


Maybe I'm remembering Cold War era broadcasts but all the VOA stuff
I've heard had Yankee Doodle at the beginning of the broadcast.

Up here in Seattle, it stomps the hell out of 5975
for the last 5-7 minutes of the 02:00 hour,
when they warm the transmitter up and
then send the tones. Montsinery has been S9
and Delano us usually 10 dB stronger.


It's not nearly as bad here on the East Coast - Usually the BBC
broadcast has little to no noticable QRM. Given your proximity I can
see how the situation is reversed!

Now I gotta figure out why I hear number stations underneath several of
the Okochobee broadcasts!
(That's not an easy feat, they are almost local.)

Tim.



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