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adam214 February 7th 06 11:00 AM

The end?
 
Do you think that SW will become irrelevant and just a platform for
political extremists and fundies?.Because as the good services such as
bbc world service roll back there service, these people i mentioned are
intensifying there efforts and i increasingly hear these people whilst
looking around.Because these good services i mentioned are increasingly
are becoming Internet-centered.I hate to see this day come because SW is
a great medium,i enjoy the diversity of it which sometimes the Internet
cant even match.I would hate to see such a great medium to go to waste
on these idiots.I think this is the great threat to SW radio and its
future,if these people get a foothold in this medium it will give
government (im not just talking about china either) to jam SW signals
and restrict sales of SW radios, if it gets a reputation as a medium for
these people.

DISCUSS!

Yours truly
Adam

[email protected] February 7th 06 11:51 AM

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I think SW will be here for a long time to come but you are correct in
that major broadcasters are moving away from SW to the 'net but I
suspect with the beeb this is more to do with funding than common
sense. The beeb is a shadow of it's former self. It went down hill with
the appointment of John Birt and as far as the world service goes has
they are still rolling downhill fast....
On the bright side I think we'll still have good broadcasting on SW for
years to come.
Alan :)


Invader3K February 7th 06 01:14 PM

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SW will always be around, but I have a feeling that if it's going to
grow anywhere, it's going to be in the Third World (Africa, South
America, Southeast Asia, etc).


David February 7th 06 01:32 PM

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On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 21:30:48 +1030, adam214
wrote:

Do you think that SW will become irrelevant and just a platform for
political extremists and fundies?.Because as the good services such as
bbc world service roll back there service, these people i mentioned are
intensifying there efforts and i increasingly hear these people whilst
looking around.Because these good services i mentioned are increasingly
are becoming Internet-centered.I hate to see this day come because SW is
a great medium,i enjoy the diversity of it which sometimes the Internet
cant even match.I would hate to see such a great medium to go to waste
on these idiots.I think this is the great threat to SW radio and its
future,if these people get a foothold in this medium it will give
government (im not just talking about china either) to jam SW signals
and restrict sales of SW radios, if it gets a reputation as a medium for
these people.

DISCUSS!

Yours truly
Adam

SWBC is irrelevant in advanced civilizations. There are more user
friendly platforms that are much easier on the ears.


[email protected] February 7th 06 02:44 PM

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Are you just talking about commercial SW broadcasts? If so, my guess is
they'll continue to decline, but they're just one slice of the pie.
Everything else that we listen to on SW will still be there, and the
presence of fewer commercial broadcast stations will, I hope, open up
some exciting DX opportunties. This is a good time to be into SW.

Steve


David February 7th 06 03:09 PM

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On 7 Feb 2006 06:44:18 -0800, wrote:

Are you just talking about commercial SW broadcasts? If so, my guess is
they'll continue to decline, but they're just one slice of the pie.
Everything else that we listen to on SW will still be there, and the
presence of fewer commercial broadcast stations will, I hope, open up
some exciting DX opportunties. This is a good time to be into SW.

Steve

I prefer not to pay hundreds of dollars to have someone tell me the
world is ending and therefore I need to buy gold.


John S. February 7th 06 03:53 PM

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adam214 wrote:
Do you think that SW will become irrelevant and just a platform for
political extremists and fundies?


Shortwave is but one of many media used by governments, commercial
broadcasters, religious groups, political groups, private individuals
and others to get information out to their respective audiences.
Shortwave is gradually being abandoned by government and commercial
broadcasters because there are more effective, reliable and less costly
ways of getting the message out to the intended audience.

I don't know whether the question of whether broadcasting on shortwave
is relevant or not because you have to define who it is relevant to. I
think it is safe to say that listening to news and music on shortwave
is less popular than it once was for many listeners given the limited
number of shortwave radios that are produced today.

This topic has come up several times before. I remember one fellow
from south america who was directly involved in commercial
broadcasting. He indicated rebroadcast signals on MW, FM and
increasingly internet were far more reliable and reached a larger
audience more consistently than sending signals by shortwave. He got
into a long winded argument with some dxers about what those decisions
meant for the hobby. His comments were essentially that broadcasts
(all media) are targeted at listeners and not collectors of QSL cards.


David February 7th 06 04:48 PM

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On 7 Feb 2006 07:53:54 -0800, "John S." wrote:


adam214 wrote:
Do you think that SW will become irrelevant and just a platform for
political extremists and fundies?


Shortwave is but one of many media used by governments, commercial
broadcasters, religious groups, political groups, private individuals
and others to get information out to their respective audiences.
Shortwave is gradually being abandoned by government and commercial
broadcasters because there are more effective, reliable and less costly
ways of getting the message out to the intended audience.

I don't know whether the question of whether broadcasting on shortwave
is relevant or not because you have to define who it is relevant to. I
think it is safe to say that listening to news and music on shortwave
is less popular than it once was for many listeners given the limited
number of shortwave radios that are produced today.

This topic has come up several times before. I remember one fellow
from south america who was directly involved in commercial
broadcasting. He indicated rebroadcast signals on MW, FM and
increasingly internet were far more reliable and reached a larger
audience more consistently than sending signals by shortwave. He got
into a long winded argument with some dxers about what those decisions
meant for the hobby. His comments were essentially that broadcasts
(all media) are targeted at listeners and not collectors of QSL cards.

Fewer radios are built because there are fewer listeners. The only
people in North America who buy SWBC receivers are hobbyists and
religious fanatics. News junkies have moved on to the internets,
satellite radio and the overnight BBC on Public Radio.


running dogg February 7th 06 05:14 PM

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Invader3K wrote:

SW will always be around, but I have a feeling that if it's going to
grow anywhere, it's going to be in the Third World (Africa, South
America, Southeast Asia, etc).


Probably so. In many parts of the world, the population is too scattered
to be effectively served by AM and FM, and too poor to afford the
internet or satellite. The reason the BBC keeps broadcasting English to
the Caribbean is because it's less expensive than establishing FM relays
in all the former British colonies scattered across the sea. It also has
the side effect of getting a couple hundred listeners in the southern
US. In the future, there will be less English on SW because most
countries that speak English are advanced enough to not need SW.



John S. February 7th 06 05:24 PM

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David wrote:
On 7 Feb 2006 07:53:54 -0800, "John S." wrote:


adam214 wrote:
Do you think that SW will become irrelevant and just a platform for
political extremists and fundies?


Shortwave is but one of many media used by governments, commercial
broadcasters, religious groups, political groups, private individuals
and others to get information out to their respective audiences.
Shortwave is gradually being abandoned by government and commercial
broadcasters because there are more effective, reliable and less costly
ways of getting the message out to the intended audience.

I don't know whether the question of whether broadcasting on shortwave
is relevant or not because you have to define who it is relevant to. I
think it is safe to say that listening to news and music on shortwave
is less popular than it once was for many listeners given the limited
number of shortwave radios that are produced today.

This topic has come up several times before. I remember one fellow
from south america who was directly involved in commercial
broadcasting. He indicated rebroadcast signals on MW, FM and
increasingly internet were far more reliable and reached a larger
audience more consistently than sending signals by shortwave. He got
into a long winded argument with some dxers about what those decisions
meant for the hobby. His comments were essentially that broadcasts
(all media) are targeted at listeners and not collectors of QSL cards.

Fewer radios are built because there are fewer listeners. The only
people in North America who buy SWBC receivers are hobbyists and
religious fanatics. News junkies have moved on to the internets,
satellite radio and the overnight BBC on Public Radio.


That's it in a nutshell: SW listeners = Demand for SW radios. There
are far more comprehensive and up-to-date sources of information than
VOA or BBC on shortwave.


running dogg February 7th 06 05:24 PM

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John S. wrote:


adam214 wrote:
Do you think that SW will become irrelevant and just a platform for
political extremists and fundies?


Shortwave is but one of many media used by governments, commercial
broadcasters, religious groups, political groups, private individuals
and others to get information out to their respective audiences.
Shortwave is gradually being abandoned by government and commercial
broadcasters because there are more effective, reliable and less costly
ways of getting the message out to the intended audience.


I think that shortwave will be used in specific situations, such as:
listeners too scattered to be served by AM/FM, listeners too poor to
afford computers or satellite dishes. I think that governments like Iran
and Cuba will continue to use SW to get their propaganda out since they
can't do it any other way. In the US it is very dangerous to your health
to frequent jihadi websites; shortwave provides a way to keep up with
what the enemy is thinking without having to worry about being tracked
and arrested as an enemy combatant.

I don't know whether the question of whether broadcasting on shortwave
is relevant or not because you have to define who it is relevant to. I
think it is safe to say that listening to news and music on shortwave
is less popular than it once was for many listeners given the limited
number of shortwave radios that are produced today.

This topic has come up several times before. I remember one fellow
from south america who was directly involved in commercial
broadcasting. He indicated rebroadcast signals on MW, FM and
increasingly internet were far more reliable and reached a larger
audience more consistently than sending signals by shortwave. He got
into a long winded argument with some dxers about what those decisions
meant for the hobby. His comments were essentially that broadcasts
(all media) are targeted at listeners and not collectors of QSL cards.


Indeed. But I can imagine situations where shortwave would be the better
choice. In South America, like in North America, people are increasingly
abandoning the countryside for the cities, so in that case AM and FM
would be better. That is not the case everywhere, and sometimes
geography prevents it.


running dogg February 7th 06 05:27 PM

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David wrote:

On 7 Feb 2006 07:53:54 -0800, "John S." wrote:


adam214 wrote:
Do you think that SW will become irrelevant and just a platform for
political extremists and fundies?


Shortwave is but one of many media used by governments, commercial
broadcasters, religious groups, political groups, private individuals
and others to get information out to their respective audiences.
Shortwave is gradually being abandoned by government and commercial
broadcasters because there are more effective, reliable and less costly
ways of getting the message out to the intended audience.

I don't know whether the question of whether broadcasting on shortwave
is relevant or not because you have to define who it is relevant to. I
think it is safe to say that listening to news and music on shortwave
is less popular than it once was for many listeners given the limited
number of shortwave radios that are produced today.

This topic has come up several times before. I remember one fellow
from south america who was directly involved in commercial
broadcasting. He indicated rebroadcast signals on MW, FM and
increasingly internet were far more reliable and reached a larger
audience more consistently than sending signals by shortwave. He got
into a long winded argument with some dxers about what those decisions
meant for the hobby. His comments were essentially that broadcasts
(all media) are targeted at listeners and not collectors of QSL cards.

Fewer radios are built because there are fewer listeners. The only
people in North America who buy SWBC receivers are hobbyists and
religious fanatics. News junkies have moved on to the internets,
satellite radio and the overnight BBC on Public Radio.


I see. So you're only here to post anti-Bush screeds? Can't you post
those somewhere else, like alt.anti-w? Also, do you know that the BBC on
public radio is a bowdlerized version of the real thing, cut and pasted
to avoid angering the govt?


David February 7th 06 05:56 PM

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On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:27:41 -0800, running dogg wrote:

David wrote:


I see. So you're only here to post anti-Bush screeds? Can't you post
those somewhere else, like alt.anti-w? Also, do you know that the BBC on
public radio is a bowdlerized version of the real thing, cut and pasted
to avoid angering the govt?

Other than a 30 second underwriting announcement covering up a Beeb
program promo the stream is pure North American Service (which is
pretty much identical to the Asian service except for East Asia Today.

I didn't say anything about any bushes.


John S. February 7th 06 06:07 PM

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running dogg wrote:
John S. wrote:


adam214 wrote:
Do you think that SW will become irrelevant and just a platform for
political extremists and fundies?


Shortwave is but one of many media used by governments, commercial
broadcasters, religious groups, political groups, private individuals
and others to get information out to their respective audiences.
Shortwave is gradually being abandoned by government and commercial
broadcasters because there are more effective, reliable and less costly
ways of getting the message out to the intended audience.


I think that shortwave will be used in specific situations, such as:
listeners too scattered to be served by AM/FM, listeners too poor to
afford computers or satellite dishes. I think that governments like Iran
and Cuba will continue to use SW to get their propaganda out since they
can't do it any other way.


The guy from south america indicated that they were using rebroadcasted
AM and satellite downlinks to create local radio stations that were far
more reliable for remote locations. Still there are some people in the
boonies that will be missed under such an approach. I have to wonder
how many of those was out in the sticks really care abut interacting
with the world though. For example those poor people way up in the
mountains of Pakistan who have no interest in leaving their world
probably also have no interest in learning about happenings in
Islamabad let alone the U.S.A. or the U.K.

In the US it is very dangerous to your health
to frequent jihadi websites; shortwave provides a way to keep up with
what the enemy is thinking without having to worry about being tracked
and arrested as an enemy combatant.


I don't know if the risk is all that great if you are looking for
reliable information. I don't know if the Help Wanted section of a
Jihadi website would be a particularly useful source of information
assuming you could: 1. Find it. 2. Translate and understand the
information. Al Jazeera (my poor spelling) is accepted as a legitimate
(if not agreeable) source of information about a very different world
for most westerners and is available in more than one media but not
shortwave to the best of my knowlege.


I don't know whether the question of whether broadcasting on shortwave
is relevant or not because you have to define who it is relevant to. I
think it is safe to say that listening to news and music on shortwave
is less popular than it once was for many listeners given the limited
number of shortwave radios that are produced today.

This topic has come up several times before. I remember one fellow
from south america who was directly involved in commercial
broadcasting. He indicated rebroadcast signals on MW, FM and
increasingly internet were far more reliable and reached a larger
audience more consistently than sending signals by shortwave. He got
into a long winded argument with some dxers about what those decisions
meant for the hobby. His comments were essentially that broadcasts
(all media) are targeted at listeners and not collectors of QSL cards.


Indeed. But I can imagine situations where shortwave would be the better
choice. In South America, like in North America, people are increasingly
abandoning the countryside for the cities, so in that case AM and FM
would be better. That is not the case everywhere, and sometimes
geography prevents it.


Yes, geography prevents line-of-site broadcasts, but it would appear
that alternatives other than shortwave are being pursued for those in
some rural areas.


David February 7th 06 06:30 PM

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On 7 Feb 2006 10:07:05 -0800, "John S." wrote:

Al Jazeera (my poor spelling) is accepted as a legitimate
(if not agreeable) source of information about a very different world
for most westerners and is available in more than one media but not
shortwave to the best of my knowlege.

http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/p...p?NetwID=50433


John S. February 7th 06 07:11 PM

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David wrote:
On 7 Feb 2006 10:07:05 -0800, "John S." wrote:

Al Jazeera (my poor spelling) is accepted as a legitimate
(if not agreeable) source of information about a very different world
for most westerners and is available in more than one media but not
shortwave to the best of my knowlege.

http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/p...p?NetwID=50433


Not sure I understand. Are you saying that Al Jazeera has shortwave
coverage with that link?


[email protected] February 7th 06 08:00 PM

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A couple of weeks ago,I read that the Governor of North Dakota wants to
use three blimps so the whole State of North Dakota can have cell phone
service.The blimps would be much less expensive than putting up more
cell phone towers.I don't know if a similar set up would work for
Shortwave listening out in the Country.
cuhulin


Frank Dresser February 7th 06 08:21 PM

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"adam214" wrote in message
news:1139312103.140009@teuthos...
Do you think that SW will become irrelevant and just a platform for
political extremists and fundies?.Because as the good services such as
bbc world service roll back there service, these people i mentioned are
intensifying there efforts and i increasingly hear these people whilst
looking around.Because these good services i mentioned are increasingly
are becoming Internet-centered.I hate to see this day come because SW is
a great medium,i enjoy the diversity of it which sometimes the Internet
cant even match.I would hate to see such a great medium to go to waste
on these idiots.I think this is the great threat to SW radio and its
future,if these people get a foothold in this medium it will give
government (im not just talking about china either) to jam SW signals
and restrict sales of SW radios, if it gets a reputation as a medium for
these people.

DISCUSS!

Yours truly
Adam


Don't get upset with the evangalists and political talkers. These guys are
on SW because they want to broadcast on SW. If SW is becoming "irrelevant",
it's because the "good services" don't think SW broadcasting is worth the
money.

And the medium will not go to waste. It will be used by those who want to
use it. Sure, those who want to use SW might be end timers and
conspiranoics. So what? The medium will be there for ANYONE who wants to
use it. Time on the US SW broadcasters is available. If you wanted to, you
could broadcast your own recordings on SW radio.

And I really doubt a foriegn country would bother jamming the likes of
Brother Stair and Alex Jones. I'm sure they have practically no listeners
in non-English speaking countries.

The "idiots", as you characterize them, are doing no harm to SW radio.
You're free to ignore them, and there's no need to waste any anger on them.
If you want to be upset with any SW broadcasters, think about those who are
abandoning the media.

Frank Dresser






David February 7th 06 08:25 PM

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On 7 Feb 2006 11:11:18 -0800, "John S." wrote:


David wrote:
On 7 Feb 2006 10:07:05 -0800, "John S." wrote:

Al Jazeera (my poor spelling) is accepted as a legitimate
(if not agreeable) source of information about a very different world
for most westerners and is available in more than one media but not
shortwave to the best of my knowlege.

http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/p...p?NetwID=50433


Not sure I understand. Are you saying that Al Jazeera has shortwave
coverage with that link?

It says that your Al Jazeera is available via the very short waves of
the DiSH Network.


David February 7th 06 08:25 PM

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On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 14:00:44 -0600, wrote:

A couple of weeks ago,I read that the Governor of North Dakota wants to
use three blimps so the whole State of North Dakota can have cell phone
service.The blimps would be much less expensive than putting up more
cell phone towers.I don't know if a similar set up would work for
Shortwave listening out in the Country.
cuhulin




[email protected] February 8th 06 04:18 AM

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Definately food for thought, i think whilst the traditional
broadcasters are rolling back others are stepping up to the plate
(radio china for example).So we will be able to enjoy some great
listening for a fair while to come.:)


[email protected] February 8th 06 04:47 AM

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Sounds like you better switch to utilities.


Telamon February 8th 06 05:26 AM

The end?
 
In article 1139312103.140009@teuthos, adam214
wrote:

Do you think that SW will become irrelevant and just a platform for
political extremists and fundies?.Because as the good services such as
bbc world service roll back there service, these people i mentioned are
intensifying there efforts and i increasingly hear these people whilst
looking around.Because these good services i mentioned are increasingly
are becoming Internet-centered.I hate to see this day come because SW is
a great medium,i enjoy the diversity of it which sometimes the Internet
cant even match.I would hate to see such a great medium to go to waste
on these idiots.I think this is the great threat to SW radio and its
future,if these people get a foothold in this medium it will give
government (im not just talking about china either) to jam SW signals
and restrict sales of SW radios, if it gets a reputation as a medium for
these people.

DISCUSS!


There is so much to listen too that my main problem most days is
deciding what to listen to as I only have two ears. And I live out west
where signals are generally weaker. Must be really tough to decide
living in central or eastern USA.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Mark Zenier February 8th 06 07:29 PM

The end?
 
In article ,
David wrote:
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:27:41 -0800, running dogg wrote:

David wrote:


I see. So you're only here to post anti-Bush screeds? Can't you post
those somewhere else, like alt.anti-w? Also, do you know that the BBC on
public radio is a bowdlerized version of the real thing, cut and pasted
to avoid angering the govt?

Other than a 30 second underwriting announcement covering up a Beeb
program promo the stream is pure North American Service (which is
pretty much identical to the Asian service except for East Asia Today.


Huh? East Asia Today disappeared a year or so ago with much complaint
from the listening public.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


David February 9th 06 05:36 PM

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On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:29:16 GMT, (Mark Zenier)
wrote:

In article ,
David wrote:
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:27:41 -0800, running dogg wrote:

David wrote:


I see. So you're only here to post anti-Bush screeds? Can't you post
those somewhere else, like alt.anti-w? Also, do you know that the BBC on
public radio is a bowdlerized version of the real thing, cut and pasted
to avoid angering the govt?

Other than a 30 second underwriting announcement covering up a Beeb
program promo the stream is pure North American Service (which is
pretty much identical to the Asian service except for East Asia Today.


Huh? East Asia Today disappeared a year or so ago with much complaint
from the listening public.

Mark Zenier

Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

Since I get the World Service 24/7 in breathtaking hifi sound via XM
and Sirius I haven't seen any need to torture myself with the
Singapore relay.


dxAce February 9th 06 05:53 PM

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David wrote:

On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:29:16 GMT, (Mark Zenier)
wrote:

In article ,
David wrote:
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:27:41 -0800, running dogg wrote:

David wrote:

I see. So you're only here to post anti-Bush screeds? Can't you post
those somewhere else, like alt.anti-w? Also, do you know that the BBC on
public radio is a bowdlerized version of the real thing, cut and pasted
to avoid angering the govt?

Other than a 30 second underwriting announcement covering up a Beeb
program promo the stream is pure North American Service (which is
pretty much identical to the Asian service except for East Asia Today.


Huh? East Asia Today disappeared a year or so ago with much complaint
from the listening public.

Mark Zenier

Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

Since I get the World Service 24/7 in breathtaking hifi sound via XM
and Sirius I haven't seen any need to torture myself with the
Singapore relay.


So why are you still here? Shouldn't you be hanging out at
alt.satellite.tardboy.rickets?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



an old friend February 9th 06 06:07 PM

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dxAce wrote:
cut
So why are you still here? Shouldn't you be hanging out at
alt.satellite.tardboy.rickets?


you are still here pedling your crap

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David February 9th 06 06:09 PM

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On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:53:25 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



So why are you still here? Shouldn't you be hanging out at
alt.satellite.tardboy.rickets?

There's more to shortwave than being able to hear 250 KW stations.


[email protected] February 9th 06 06:13 PM

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I thought you needed a subscription for that.


[email protected] February 9th 06 06:14 PM

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Maybe you should begin directing everyone's attention these additional
aspects of shortwave listening, then, and stop your off-topic, bull****
posting.


dxAce February 9th 06 06:21 PM

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David wrote:

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:53:25 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



So why are you still here? Shouldn't you be hanging out at
alt.satellite.tardboy.rickets?

There's more to shortwave than being able to hear 250 KW stations.


Yes, there is! You should try it sometime.

LMFAO at the stem.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Mark Zenier February 9th 06 06:33 PM

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In article ,
David wrote:
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:29:16 GMT, (Mark Zenier)
wrote:

....
Huh? East Asia Today disappeared a year or so ago with much complaint
from the listening public.

....
Since I get the World Service 24/7 in breathtaking hifi sound via XM
and Sirius I haven't seen any need to torture myself with the
Singapore relay.


Singapore (and Thailand) has been notably crappy this time of year.
9740 is weak, except for maybe an hour or so around sunrise, 6195 is
full of Mongolian interference, and 7160 has something else stepping on
it, too. Some days, the best signal at 16:30 is 3915, and that's not
saying much.

The French Guiana is coming in ok in the afternoon but that's pretty
much the same vanilla Beeb news/chat you can get on the local NPR
station late at night. My local NPR outfit has an allergy to
broadcasting the Beeb's best (IMHO) stuff, the science shows and
documentaries. And the shortwave drops out at 01:00 for an hour
when the documentarys come on.

Mark Zenier

Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


David February 9th 06 06:50 PM

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On 9 Feb 2006 10:14:54 -0800, wrote:

Maybe you should begin directing everyone's attention these additional
aspects of shortwave listening, then, and stop your off-topic, bull****
posting.

Maybe you should show everyone your tin star before you start acting
like the board cop.


dxAce February 9th 06 06:54 PM

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David wrote:

On 9 Feb 2006 10:14:54 -0800, wrote:

Maybe you should begin directing everyone's attention these additional
aspects of shortwave listening, then, and stop your off-topic, bull****
posting.

Maybe you should show everyone your tin star before you start acting
like the board cop.


Maybe you should just go take your meds, 'tard boy.

LMFAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Billy Smith February 10th 06 05:36 AM

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Maybe you should pull your oblong head out of your rectum

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David wrote:

On 9 Feb 2006 10:14:54 -0800, wrote:

Maybe you should begin directing everyone's attention these additional
aspects of shortwave listening, then, and stop your off-topic, bull****
posting.

Maybe you should show everyone your tin star before you start acting
like the board cop.


Maybe you should just go take your meds, 'tard boy.

LMFAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA





adam214 February 13th 06 08:05 AM

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Mark Zenier wrote:
In article ,
David wrote:
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:29:16 GMT, (Mark Zenier)
wrote:

...
Huh? East Asia Today disappeared a year or so ago with much complaint
from the listening public.

...
Since I get the World Service 24/7 in breathtaking hifi sound via XM
and Sirius I haven't seen any need to torture myself with the
Singapore relay.


Singapore (and Thailand) has been notably crappy this time of year.
9740 is weak, except for maybe an hour or so around sunrise, 6195 is
full of Mongolian interference, and 7160 has something else stepping on
it, too. Some days, the best signal at 16:30 is 3915, and that's not
saying much.

The French Guiana is coming in ok in the afternoon but that's pretty
much the same vanilla Beeb news/chat you can get on the local NPR
station late at night. My local NPR outfit has an allergy to
broadcasting the Beeb's best (IMHO) stuff, the science shows and
documentaries. And the shortwave drops out at 01:00 for an hour
when the documentarys come on.

Mark Zenier

Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

I'm lucky i live in Australia, whilst most stations don't broadcast to
Australia directly.But im close proximity to Asia so i can piggy back
and listen to Asian streams, especially the SE asian one and sometimes
the S asia ones (esp DW radio).Also you can listen to Radio Australia in
USA and almost everywhere, despite being underfunded as is ABC
(australia broadcasting corporation)generally.You hear genuine
australian stuff not just stuff broken down in bite size pieces for
world consumption.Hell i even listen to this its better than the
mainstream media in Australia.Sorry to peddle but it is good.

http://www.abc.net.au/ra/tuning/unitedstates.htm

Yours truly
Adam

running dogg February 14th 06 03:46 AM

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adam214 wrote:

Mark Zenier wrote:
In article ,
David wrote:
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:29:16 GMT, (Mark Zenier)
wrote:

...
Huh? East Asia Today disappeared a year or so ago with much complaint
from the listening public.

...
Since I get the World Service 24/7 in breathtaking hifi sound via XM
and Sirius I haven't seen any need to torture myself with the
Singapore relay.


Singapore (and Thailand) has been notably crappy this time of year.
9740 is weak, except for maybe an hour or so around sunrise, 6195 is
full of Mongolian interference, and 7160 has something else stepping on
it, too. Some days, the best signal at 16:30 is 3915, and that's not
saying much.

The French Guiana is coming in ok in the afternoon but that's pretty
much the same vanilla Beeb news/chat you can get on the local NPR
station late at night. My local NPR outfit has an allergy to
broadcasting the Beeb's best (IMHO) stuff, the science shows and
documentaries. And the shortwave drops out at 01:00 for an hour
when the documentarys come on.

Mark Zenier

Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

I'm lucky i live in Australia, whilst most stations don't broadcast to
Australia directly.But im close proximity to Asia so i can piggy back
and listen to Asian streams, especially the SE asian one and sometimes
the S asia ones (esp DW radio).Also you can listen to Radio Australia in
USA and almost everywhere, despite being underfunded as is ABC
(australia broadcasting corporation)generally.You hear genuine
australian stuff not just stuff broken down in bite size pieces for
world consumption.Hell i even listen to this its better than the
mainstream media in Australia.Sorry to peddle but it is good.

http://www.abc.net.au/ra/tuning/unitedstates.htm

Yours truly
Adam


I've listened to RA's news programs, and they are mainly of interest to
local and regional audiences. As a news junkie, I find that unfortunate.
I find that the BBC and RN (and DW, although DW can't be heard in
English to the Americas any more) have much better news coverage, with
the Beeb being the most inclusive. I've heard complaints that the best
of RA's feature programming isn't audible in the US at all, or is on at
inconvenient times, probably as a result of the massive time difference
between Australia and the US. In short RA is very much a regional
broadcaster. I suppose that if you're in Australia or the South Pacific,
that would be nice. But for Americans it's boring. Plus, I have a real
hard time forgiving RA for broadcasting weeks of cricket while the
tsunami disaster was unfolding in their backyard. I had to turn to the
Beeb, and I never looked back.



David February 14th 06 04:46 AM

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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:46:29 -0800, running dogg wrote:

adam214 wrote:

Mark Zenier wrote:
In article ,
David wrote:
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:29:16 GMT, (Mark Zenier)
wrote:
...
Huh? East Asia Today disappeared a year or so ago with much complaint
from the listening public.
...
Since I get the World Service 24/7 in breathtaking hifi sound via XM
and Sirius I haven't seen any need to torture myself with the
Singapore relay.

Singapore (and Thailand) has been notably crappy this time of year.
9740 is weak, except for maybe an hour or so around sunrise, 6195 is
full of Mongolian interference, and 7160 has something else stepping on
it, too. Some days, the best signal at 16:30 is 3915, and that's not
saying much.

The French Guiana is coming in ok in the afternoon but that's pretty
much the same vanilla Beeb news/chat you can get on the local NPR
station late at night. My local NPR outfit has an allergy to
broadcasting the Beeb's best (IMHO) stuff, the science shows and
documentaries. And the shortwave drops out at 01:00 for an hour
when the documentarys come on.

Mark Zenier

Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

I'm lucky i live in Australia, whilst most stations don't broadcast to
Australia directly.But im close proximity to Asia so i can piggy back
and listen to Asian streams, especially the SE asian one and sometimes
the S asia ones (esp DW radio).Also you can listen to Radio Australia in
USA and almost everywhere, despite being underfunded as is ABC
(australia broadcasting corporation)generally.You hear genuine
australian stuff not just stuff broken down in bite size pieces for
world consumption.Hell i even listen to this its better than the
mainstream media in Australia.Sorry to peddle but it is good.

http://www.abc.net.au/ra/tuning/unitedstates.htm

Yours truly
Adam

DW can't be heard in
English to the Americas any more)


Sirius carries daily broadcasts from DW.

www.sirius.com


[email protected] February 14th 06 05:10 AM

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Cricket,isn't that the thingy where they putt them little balls through
them little wire hoops with them little wooden putters.How exciting,NOT!
cuhulin


David February 14th 06 01:48 PM

The end?
 
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:10:12 -0600, wrote:

Cricket,isn't that the thingy where they putt them little balls through
them little wire hoops with them little wooden putters.How exciting,NOT!
cuhulin

Seems like a very intense sport with a quite devoted following. I
think you're remembering croquet however.



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