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Old February 9th 06, 05:53 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave,alt.home.repair
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Default Want to replace old flat tv cable with better coax.

I have done some reading about balun transformers and how I can connect
my existing flat antena cable to 75 ohm cable.

However, my questions is this... what if I replace the 30 year old flat
cable all the way to the antenna. Will this yield better reception?
(It is pretty good as it is.) The exiting flat cable is starting to
fall apart at some places. Currently I just have it directly wired to
my coax cable (just before it enters the house) with out any type of
transformer. The coax is properly grounded (to the circuit breaker
box.)

So my questions are these:

1. How do I connect the coax directly to the antenna? Or should I?
Do I still need a balun transformer?
2. If I need a balun transformer, does anyone know of a heavy duty
outdoor one? (Or should I build my own.)
3. Will reception improve?

Thanx to all who reply.

jg

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Old February 9th 06, 07:03 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave,alt.home.repair
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While you are at it, you may wish to replace the antenna as well. If you do
be sure to get one with good UHF reception. Once the US switches to digital
TV, I believe in 2009, all TV signals will be in the UHF band.

"jg" wrote in message
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I have done some reading about balun transformers and how I can connect
my existing flat antena cable to 75 ohm cable.

However, my questions is this... what if I replace the 30 year old flat
cable all the way to the antenna. Will this yield better reception?
(It is pretty good as it is.) The exiting flat cable is starting to
fall apart at some places. Currently I just have it directly wired to
my coax cable (just before it enters the house) with out any type of
transformer. The coax is properly grounded (to the circuit breaker
box.)

So my questions are these:

1. How do I connect the coax directly to the antenna? Or should I?
Do I still need a balun transformer?
2. If I need a balun transformer, does anyone know of a heavy duty
outdoor one? (Or should I build my own.)
3. Will reception improve?

Thanx to all who reply.

jg



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Old February 9th 06, 08:15 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave,alt.home.repair
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On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:03:47 GMT, "Jeff" wrote:

While you are at it, you may wish to replace the antenna as well. If you do
be sure to get one with good UHF reception. Once the US switches to digital
TV, I believe in 2009, all TV signals will be in the UHF band.

That's not true. VHF High Band and UHF.

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Old February 9th 06, 10:35 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave,alt.home.repair
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JG,

I agree with everyone here that coax is better but so far noone has
mentioned there are two types of coax, 50 ohm and 75 ohm. Make sure
that you use the 75 ohm coax. 50 ohm is generally used for
communications and you can't tell the difference between the two by the
size or thickness of the coax. You can tell by the number stamped on
the coax, eg. RG75U, etc.

J



jg wrote:
I have done some reading about balun transformers and how I can connect
my existing flat antena cable to 75 ohm cable.

However, my questions is this... what if I replace the 30 year old flat
cable all the way to the antenna. Will this yield better reception?
(It is pretty good as it is.) The exiting flat cable is starting to
fall apart at some places. Currently I just have it directly wired to
my coax cable (just before it enters the house) with out any type of
transformer. The coax is properly grounded (to the circuit breaker
box.)

So my questions are these:

1. How do I connect the coax directly to the antenna? Or should I?
Do I still need a balun transformer?
2. If I need a balun transformer, does anyone know of a heavy duty
outdoor one? (Or should I build my own.)
3. Will reception improve?

Thanx to all who reply.

jg

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Old February 9th 06, 11:57 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave,alt.home.repair
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On 8 Feb 2006 21:53:31 -0800, "jg" wrote:

I have done some reading about balun transformers and how I can connect
my existing flat antena cable to 75 ohm cable.

However, my questions is this... what if I replace the 30 year old flat
cable all the way to the antenna. Will this yield better reception?


Maybe.

(It is pretty good as it is.) The exiting flat cable is starting to
fall apart at some places. Currently I just have it directly wired to
my coax cable (just before it enters the house) with out any type of
transformer.


How did you do that? Soldered one wire to the center and the other to
the braid? I'm curious, but as others have said, you should redo it,
and run straightaway to a tv or a signal splitter, if you want to go
to more than one tv. They still sell them for flat lead.

I would also pay attention to the way the wire is run now. Flat lead
should have stand-offs to keep it away from the pole and the siding,
and as someone pointed out, it should be twisted I can imagine that
some prior amateur or neat-freak kept the wire untwisted because he
thought it looked better. So if they didn't do a good job the last
time, your job can be better. (The interference will still try to
interfere, but its effect on one part of the flat-lead will be exactly
the opposit of its effect on the other part of the wire, so the two
effects will cancel each other out. Hence, no interference. This is
similar to the reason that wires from burglar alarm sensors use
twisted pairs of wires, so that lightening won't generate a voltage
spike in the wires that will damage the control panel (or set off the
alarm?).

The coax is properly grounded (to the circuit breaker
box.)

So my questions are these:

1. How do I connect the coax directly to the antenna? Or should I?
Do I still need a balun transformer?


Yes.

2. If I need a balun transformer, does anyone know of a heavy duty
outdoor one? (Or should I build my own.)


They're not so much heavy duty as they are designed to keep the
insides dry, with the rubber cover and all.

3. Will reception improve?
Thanx to all who reply.

jg



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Old February 10th 06, 07:52 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave,alt.home.repair
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How did I connect the twinlead to the coax? I used two cones and
twisted them. Center to one lead, outside to the other lead. This was
meant to be a temporary solution (two years ago.)

At any rate I have one more question, if I go twinlead all the way from
the antenna to the TV (almost to the TV, I'll have to switch over just
before cable runs up the wall behind my tv) should I be concerned with
grounding? As I explained before, coax is well grounded just before
entering crawlspace. Will I need to do the same for twinlead?

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Old February 14th 06, 09:13 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave,alt.home.repair
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Default Want to replace old flat tv cable with better coax.

Thanx to all who replied and helped out. I've installed a balun
tranformer at the antenna and I've replaced the entire run with RJ6
coax cable. Picture quality increased drastically on all channels.
I've got my antenna pointing 206 degrees yet I can still pick up
channels 29 (103 degrees) and 19 (143 degrees.) (My antenna's fault
I'm sure.) At any rate the local stations (Sacramento) all come in
super clear, so I'll leave it as it is.

Thanx again.

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Old February 17th 06, 01:39 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave,alt.home.repair
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"jg" wrote in message
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Thanx to all who replied and helped out. I've installed a balun
tranformer at the antenna and I've replaced the entire run with RJ6
coax cable. Picture quality increased drastically on all channels.
I've got my antenna pointing 206 degrees yet I can still pick up
channels 29 (103 degrees) and 19 (143 degrees.) (My antenna's fault
I'm sure.) At any rate the local stations (Sacramento) all come in
super clear, so I'll leave it as it is.

Thanx again.

If you ever get the urge, buy a good long distance antenna and put a rotor
on it and see what you get!
B


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