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dxAce March 25th 06 10:50 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 

So this is ALL THAT`S LEFT of English BBCWS on SW in the entire Western
Hemisphe

1100 1300 Daily 11865
2100 2200 Daily 15390
2100 2130 Mon-Fri 11675
2200 2300 Daily 5975

Here`s the East Asia schedule, some of which will seep over to WNAm:

0000 0030 Daily 17615
0000 1030 Daily 15360
0000 0530 Daily 15280
0300 1030 Daily 21660
0300 1300 Daily 17760
0900 1030 Daily 9605
1300 1600 Daily 9740
1300 1700 Daily 6195
2100 2200 Daily 11945
2100 2400 Daily 5965
2200 2400 Daily 9740
2200 2300 Daily 6195, 5955
2300 2400 Daily 11850
2300 0030 Daily 11945
2330 2400 Daily 6195

Likewise, many of the African frequencies are audible in C&E NAm; especially
Ascension when on 21470, 12095:

SOUTHERN AFRICA
0300 2200 Daily 6190
0300 0400 Daily 6005, 6035*
0300 0600 Daily 3255
0400 0500 Daily 7120*
0500 0700 Daily 11765*
0500 1700 Daily 11940
0800 1900 Daily 21470
1600 2200 Daily 3255
1900 2100 Daily 12095
2100 2300 Daily 6005
*West Africa programmes

WEST & CENTRAL AFRICA [17830 15400 ASC best]
0300 0600 Daily 7160
0300 0400 Daily 6035
0400 0500 Daily 7120
0400 0706 Daily 6005
0500 0800 Daily 11765
0600 0700 Daily 9530
0630 0700 Daily 11990
0700 1000 Daily 15400
0700 1000 Daily 17830
1000 1100 Sat-Sun 17830, 15400
1100 1130 Daily 15400
1100 2100 Daily 17830
1600 1800 Daily 17885
1800 2000 Daily 17795
1600 2300 Daily 15400

Page linking to all the BBCWS in English SW frequency schedules (and each has a
separate link in graph from showing transmitter sites):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/sc...es/index.shtml
(Glenn Hauser, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Telamon March 25th 06 11:25 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

So this is ALL THAT`S LEFT of English BBCWS on SW in the entire Western
Hemisphe

1100 1300 Daily 11865
2100 2200 Daily 15390
2100 2130 Mon-Fri 11675
2200 2300 Daily 5975

Here`s the East Asia schedule, some of which will seep over to WNAm:

0000 0030 Daily 17615
0000 1030 Daily 15360
0000 0530 Daily 15280
0300 1030 Daily 21660
0300 1300 Daily 17760
0900 1030 Daily 9605
1300 1600 Daily 9740
1300 1700 Daily 6195
2100 2200 Daily 11945
2100 2400 Daily 5965
2200 2400 Daily 9740
2200 2300 Daily 6195, 5955
2300 2400 Daily 11850
2300 0030 Daily 11945
2330 2400 Daily 6195

Likewise, many of the African frequencies are audible in C&E NAm; especially
Ascension when on 21470, 12095:

SOUTHERN AFRICA
0300 2200 Daily 6190
0300 0400 Daily 6005, 6035*
0300 0600 Daily 3255
0400 0500 Daily 7120*
0500 0700 Daily 11765*
0500 1700 Daily 11940
0800 1900 Daily 21470
1600 2200 Daily 3255
1900 2100 Daily 12095
2100 2300 Daily 6005
*West Africa programmes

WEST & CENTRAL AFRICA [17830 15400 ASC best]
0300 0600 Daily 7160
0300 0400 Daily 6035
0400 0500 Daily 7120
0400 0706 Daily 6005
0500 0800 Daily 11765
0600 0700 Daily 9530
0630 0700 Daily 11990
0700 1000 Daily 15400
0700 1000 Daily 17830
1000 1100 Sat-Sun 17830, 15400
1100 1130 Daily 15400
1100 2100 Daily 17830
1600 1800 Daily 17885
1800 2000 Daily 17795
1600 2300 Daily 15400

Page linking to all the BBCWS in English SW frequency schedules (and each has
a
separate link in graph from showing transmitter sites):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/sc...es/index.shtml
(Glenn Hauser, DX LISTENING DIGEST)


Handy post Ace. I'm printing this out so I don't need to have the
computer turned on to read it.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

running dogg March 26th 06 03:23 AM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
dxAce wrote:


So this is ALL THAT`S LEFT of English BBCWS on SW in the entire Western
Hemisphe

1100 1300 Daily 11865
2100 2200 Daily 15390
2100 2130 Mon-Fri 11675
2200 2300 Daily 5975

Here`s the East Asia schedule, some of which will seep over to WNAm:

0000 0030 Daily 17615
0000 1030 Daily 15360
0000 0530 Daily 15280
0300 1030 Daily 21660
0300 1300 Daily 17760
0900 1030 Daily 9605
1300 1600 Daily 9740
1300 1700 Daily 6195
2100 2200 Daily 11945
2100 2400 Daily 5965
2200 2400 Daily 9740
2200 2300 Daily 6195, 5955
2300 2400 Daily 11850
2300 0030 Daily 11945
2330 2400 Daily 6195

Likewise, many of the African frequencies are audible in C&E NAm; especially
Ascension when on 21470, 12095:

SOUTHERN AFRICA
0300 2200 Daily 6190
0300 0400 Daily 6005, 6035*
0300 0600 Daily 3255
0400 0500 Daily 7120*
0500 0700 Daily 11765*
0500 1700 Daily 11940
0800 1900 Daily 21470
1600 2200 Daily 3255
1900 2100 Daily 12095
2100 2300 Daily 6005
*West Africa programmes

WEST & CENTRAL AFRICA [17830 15400 ASC best]
0300 0600 Daily 7160
0300 0400 Daily 6035
0400 0500 Daily 7120
0400 0706 Daily 6005
0500 0800 Daily 11765
0600 0700 Daily 9530
0630 0700 Daily 11990
0700 1000 Daily 15400
0700 1000 Daily 17830
1000 1100 Sat-Sun 17830, 15400
1100 1130 Daily 15400
1100 2100 Daily 17830
1600 1800 Daily 17885
1800 2000 Daily 17795
1600 2300 Daily 15400

Page linking to all the BBCWS in English SW frequency schedules (and each has a
separate link in graph from showing transmitter sites):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/sc...es/index.shtml
(Glenn Hauser, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Wanna bet that by B06 or A07 that BBCWS for the Americas will be
eliminated entirely? I think that the suits running the Beeb should be
put out to pasture on the funny farm. Same thing for the commercial
radio moguls running IBB. The thing is, the US govt could revive VOA if
it really wanted to. Is ANYBODY from the UK govt in control at the BBC?
The BBC was trashing the invasion of Iraq as British troops were
fighting on the ground. The BBC recently has made some moves in domestic
broadcasting that have angered a lot of British, yet nobody is taking
responsibility, no heads are rolling. Is the BBC a govt agency or isn't
it? Is anybody manning the store?


David March 26th 06 04:55 AM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:50:59 -0500, dxAce
wrote:


XM 131 24/7

Sirius 141 24/7


David March 26th 06 04:56 AM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:23:25 -0800, running dogg wrote:



Wanna bet that by B06 or A07 that BBCWS for the Americas will be
eliminated entirely? I think that the suits running the Beeb should be
put out to pasture on the funny farm. Same thing for the commercial
radio moguls running IBB. The thing is, the US govt could revive VOA if
it really wanted to. Is ANYBODY from the UK govt in control at the BBC?
The BBC was trashing the invasion of Iraq as British troops were
fighting on the ground. The BBC recently has made some moves in domestic
broadcasting that have angered a lot of British, yet nobody is taking
responsibility, no heads are rolling. Is the BBC a govt agency or isn't
it? Is anybody manning the store?

The World Service for the Americas is live and well. Just not on HF.


dxAce March 26th 06 01:32 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 


David wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:50:59 -0500, dxAce
wrote:


XM 131 24/7

Sirius 141 24/7


It's not shortwave, you mentally retarded, drug addled dimwit.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Simon Mason March 26th 06 05:54 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

So this is ALL THAT`S LEFT of English BBCWS on SW in the entire Western
Hemisphe

1100 1300 Daily 11865
2100 2200 Daily 15390
2100 2130 Mon-Fri 11675
2200 2300 Daily 5975


We can get BBC WS on satellite and DAB here in the UK, as well as MW. At
night, 0100 -0600 it also turns up on LW and FM. I'd rather listen to it on
DAB than SW any day, although when on holiday, that's a different matter.

--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net



Simon Mason March 26th 06 05:56 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 

"running dogg" wrote in message
. ..
Is the BBC a govt agency or isn't
it?


No it isn't - it's entirely separate from the Govt. It is paid for by our TV
licence - about 200 dollars per year, whether you watch any BBC at all.

--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net



David March 26th 06 06:12 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:56:56 +0100, "Simon Mason"
wrote:


"running dogg" wrote in message
...
Is the BBC a govt agency or isn't
it?


No it isn't - it's entirely separate from the Govt. It is paid for by our TV
licence - about 200 dollars per year, whether you watch any BBC at all.


The World Service is different from the rest of the BBC. It is not
paid for by the licence fee. It is an arm of the Foreign Service, I
think.

''How is BBC World Service funded?

BBC World Service is funded by a Parliamentary grant-in-aid,
administered by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office of the British
government. The FCO, in close consultation with World Service, is
involved in the process of deciding which languages are broadcast ,
but editorial control of the programmes rests entirely with BBC.
The relationship between the BBCWS and the FCO is governed by two
documents, the Broadcasting Agreement and the Financial Memorandum


Foreign and Commonwealth Office/BBC World Service - Broadcasting
Agreement


Foreign and Commonwealth Office/BBC - Financial Memorandum

The BBC's UK radio and TV services are financed by the television
Licence Fee (all owners of television sets in the UK are required to
buy an annual licence). The BBC also earns extra income through the
sale of programmes overseas and of books, videos, tapes and other
products linked to BBC programmes.
BBC World Service does not receive any funding from the UK Licence
Fee.''

www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice

Hey, I was right.





Simon Mason March 26th 06 06:23 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 

"David" wrote in message
...


The BBC's UK radio and TV services are financed by the television
Licence Fee (all owners of television sets in the UK are required to
buy an annual licence). The BBC also earns extra income through the
sale of programmes overseas and of books, videos, tapes and other
products linked to BBC programmes.
BBC World Service does not receive any funding from the UK Licence
Fee.''

www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice

Hey, I was right.


Yes, the WS, unlike the rest of the BBC (you didn't make it clear you were
referring solely to the WS as opposed to the BBC in general) is funded from
the FCO out of our taxes, so we still pay for it. It's our money, not the
Govt's money.

Running Dog asked if the BBC is a Govt agency, which it definitely is not.
Your own post says:

"The FCO, in close consultation with World Service, is
involved in the process of deciding which languages are broadcast ,
but editorial control of the programmes rests *entirely* with BBC."


--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net



dxAce March 26th 06 06:25 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 


Simon Mason wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

So this is ALL THAT`S LEFT of English BBCWS on SW in the entire Western
Hemisphe

1100 1300 Daily 11865
2100 2200 Daily 15390
2100 2130 Mon-Fri 11675
2200 2300 Daily 5975


We can get BBC WS on satellite and DAB here in the UK, as well as MW. At
night, 0100 -0600 it also turns up on LW and FM. I'd rather listen to it on
DAB than SW any day, although when on holiday, that's a different matter.


Those other alternatives are nice I suppose, however, they are not shortwave.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


David March 26th 06 06:31 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:23:41 +0100, "Simon Mason"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .


The BBC's UK radio and TV services are financed by the television
Licence Fee (all owners of television sets in the UK are required to
buy an annual licence). The BBC also earns extra income through the
sale of programmes overseas and of books, videos, tapes and other
products linked to BBC programmes.
BBC World Service does not receive any funding from the UK Licence
Fee.''

www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice

Hey, I was right.


Yes, the WS, unlike the rest of the BBC (you didn't make it clear you were
referring solely to the WS as opposed to the BBC in general) is funded from
the FCO out of our taxes, so we still pay for it. It's our money, not the
Govt's money.

Running Dog asked if the BBC is a Govt agency, which it definitely is not.
Your own post says:

"The FCO, in close consultation with World Service, is
involved in the process of deciding which languages are broadcast ,
but editorial control of the programmes rests *entirely* with BBC."


In the USA, the People are the Government (they just forget that
salient point most of the time).


David March 26th 06 06:32 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:25:17 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



Simon Mason wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

So this is ALL THAT`S LEFT of English BBCWS on SW in the entire Western
Hemisphe

1100 1300 Daily 11865
2100 2200 Daily 15390
2100 2130 Mon-Fri 11675
2200 2300 Daily 5975


We can get BBC WS on satellite and DAB here in the UK, as well as MW. At
night, 0100 -0600 it also turns up on LW and FM. I'd rather listen to it on
DAB than SW any day, although when on holiday, that's a different matter.


Those other alternatives are nice I suppose, however, they are not shortwave.

Right. Some of us listen to the World Service for the content, not
for the catch.


Simon Mason March 26th 06 06:37 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 

"dxAce" wrote in message

We can get BBC WS on satellite and DAB here in the UK, as well as MW. At
night, 0100 -0600 it also turns up on LW and FM. I'd rather listen to it
on
DAB than SW any day, although when on holiday, that's a different matter.


Those other alternatives are nice I suppose, however, they are not
short-wave.


Indeed Sir, I was merely highlighting the range of options other than SW
that are available. I enjoy HF as much as the next DXer, but the world moves
on...

For example, when I was driving around Prague, I could listen to BBC WS on
the car's FM radio. I suppose if the people at the BBC find out that only a
handful of people listen to SW in Prague, they are better off sticking it
onto FM, rather than pumping kilowatts of HF into the ether. Although that
is not to say that all SW be dropped. If I was in a remote area, I would
still like to receive it on SW, rather than getting a Worldspace RX and
paying for it twice.


--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net



dxAce March 26th 06 06:45 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 


David wrote:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:25:17 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



Simon Mason wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

So this is ALL THAT`S LEFT of English BBCWS on SW in the entire Western
Hemisphe

1100 1300 Daily 11865
2100 2200 Daily 15390
2100 2130 Mon-Fri 11675
2200 2300 Daily 5975

We can get BBC WS on satellite and DAB here in the UK, as well as MW. At
night, 0100 -0600 it also turns up on LW and FM. I'd rather listen to it on
DAB than SW any day, although when on holiday, that's a different matter.


Those other alternatives are nice I suppose, however, they are not shortwave.

Right. Some of us listen to the World Service for the content, not
for the catch.


Some of us can actually do both! It's unfortunate that you've been unable to do
any real DXing on shortwave.

Come back and let us know when you find an appropriate satellite newsgroup to post
in, we'll throw a party.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



running dogg March 26th 06 07:57 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
Simon Mason wrote:


"David" wrote in message
...


The BBC's UK radio and TV services are financed by the television
Licence Fee (all owners of television sets in the UK are required to
buy an annual licence). The BBC also earns extra income through the
sale of programmes overseas and of books, videos, tapes and other
products linked to BBC programmes.
BBC World Service does not receive any funding from the UK Licence
Fee.''

www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice

Hey, I was right.


Yes, the WS, unlike the rest of the BBC (you didn't make it clear you were
referring solely to the WS as opposed to the BBC in general) is funded from
the FCO out of our taxes, so we still pay for it. It's our money, not the
Govt's money.

Running Dog asked if the BBC is a Govt agency, which it definitely is not.
Your own post says:

"The FCO, in close consultation with World Service, is
involved in the process of deciding which languages are broadcast ,
but editorial control of the programmes rests *entirely* with BBC."


Ah. You see, the VOA was (was, since it in effect doesn't exist anymore)
run by an agency of the US govt, USAID I think. In most countries, the
national broadcaster is a govt agency. Since the BBC is not controlled
by the UK govt, the BBC can make all sorts of screwy decisions and
nobody can tell them no. (In contrast, the screwy decisions made at the
VOA were done by presidential appointees. The President and Congress
could have decided to hire new people to run the place.) So the BBC
slashes the WS, they slash domestic programming, they make a lot of
people upset, and nobody can rein them in. At least the big corporate
broadcasters in the US (NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox, Time Warner (who runs the WB
network), Paramount Pictures (UPN)) have majority stockholders and
boards of directors who can fire the CEO if he ****s up.


running dogg March 26th 06 08:08 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
David wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:50:59 -0500, dxAce
wrote:


XM 131 24/7

Sirius 141 24/7


How much do you pay for XM and Sirius? Isn't it something like
$15-20/mo, in addition to a receiver that costs a few hundred bucks? Why
should I pay $200 or so a year just to get the BBCWS, when I can buy a
$50 Degen and listen to it without subscription costs? Even if I have to
listen to it from the Asian stream, I still save money. Not all of us
have gobs of cash. Even Ace, who has gobs of cash, prefers to spend his
money in more productive ways than giving it to XM and Sirius. XM and
Sirius are mostly music, 12 channels each of every variant of every type
of music you can imagine. I don't listen to much music, and 12 channels
of right wing talk doesn't appeal to me, so I'd be paying money to
listen to something I can get for free with a $50 radio. I suppose David
Rickets likes throwing money away. I can't afford to.


dxAce March 26th 06 08:16 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 


running dogg wrote:

David wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:50:59 -0500, dxAce
wrote:


XM 131 24/7

Sirius 141 24/7


How much do you pay for XM and Sirius? Isn't it something like
$15-20/mo, in addition to a receiver that costs a few hundred bucks? Why
should I pay $200 or so a year just to get the BBCWS, when I can buy a
$50 Degen and listen to it without subscription costs? Even if I have to
listen to it from the Asian stream, I still save money. Not all of us
have gobs of cash. Even Ace, who has gobs of cash, prefers to spend his
money in more productive ways than giving it to XM and Sirius. XM and
Sirius are mostly music, 12 channels each of every variant of every type
of music you can imagine. I don't listen to much music, and 12 channels
of right wing talk doesn't appeal to me, so I'd be paying money to
listen to something I can get for free with a $50 radio. I suppose David
Rickets likes throwing money away. I can't afford to.


Gobs of cash?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



running dogg March 26th 06 08:49 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
dxAce wrote:



running dogg wrote:

David wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:50:59 -0500, dxAce
wrote:


XM 131 24/7

Sirius 141 24/7


How much do you pay for XM and Sirius? Isn't it something like
$15-20/mo, in addition to a receiver that costs a few hundred bucks? Why
should I pay $200 or so a year just to get the BBCWS, when I can buy a
$50 Degen and listen to it without subscription costs? Even if I have to
listen to it from the Asian stream, I still save money. Not all of us
have gobs of cash. Even Ace, who has gobs of cash, prefers to spend his
money in more productive ways than giving it to XM and Sirius. XM and
Sirius are mostly music, 12 channels each of every variant of every type
of music you can imagine. I don't listen to much music, and 12 channels
of right wing talk doesn't appeal to me, so I'd be paying money to
listen to something I can get for free with a $50 radio. I suppose David
Rickets likes throwing money away. I can't afford to.


Gobs of cash?


How else can you afford to sit and listen to your radio all day, every
day?


David Eduardo March 26th 06 09:22 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 

"running dogg" wrote in message
...

Ah. You see, the VOA was (was, since it in effect doesn't exist anymore)
run by an agency of the US govt, USAID I think.


USAID is the US Agency for International Development. t helps farmers get
better crops, etc. The USIS, US Information Service, is what you are
thinking of.

VOA very much exists. It just is reducing its usage of SW and increasing in
other bands and media.

In most countries, the
national broadcaster is a govt agency. Since the BBC is not controlled
by the UK govt, the BBC can make all sorts of screwy decisions and
nobody can tell them no.


The BBC is a government chartered orgainzation, and financed by government
taxes.

(In contrast, the screwy decisions made at the
VOA were done by presidential appointees. The President and Congress
could have decided to hire new people to run the place.) So the BBC
slashes the WS, they slash domestic programming, they make a lot of
people upset, and nobody can rein them in. At least the big corporate
broadcasters in the US (NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox, Time Warner (who runs the WB
network), Paramount Pictures (UPN)) have majority stockholders and
boards of directors who can fire the CEO if he ****s up.


What has been screwed up at the VOA? They are simply moving into the new
centrury.




David March 26th 06 11:06 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:08:57 -0800, running dogg wrote:


How much do you pay for XM and Sirius? Isn't it something like
$15-20/mo, in addition to a receiver that costs a few hundred bucks? Why
should I pay $200 or so a year just to get the BBCWS, when I can buy a
$50 Degen and listen to it without subscription costs? Even if I have to
listen to it from the Asian stream, I still save money. Not all of us
have gobs of cash. Even Ace, who has gobs of cash, prefers to spend his
money in more productive ways than giving it to XM and Sirius. XM and
Sirius are mostly music, 12 channels each of every variant of every type
of music you can imagine. I don't listen to much music, and 12 channels
of right wing talk doesn't appeal to me, so I'd be paying money to
listen to something I can get for free with a $50 radio. I suppose David
Rickets likes throwing money away. I can't afford to.

The radios start at $50 (or less, even). The initial subscription is
$13 a month (about the cost of one compact disc, which you will tire
of in a few hours).

I used to listen to the Singapore relay from around 3:30 AM until
around 7:30 AM (Pacific Time). Other than that, there's no BBC left
out here. On the satellite it's alway there, noise free, and I can
concentrate on the content.


dxAce March 26th 06 11:20 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 


running dogg wrote:

dxAce wrote:



running dogg wrote:

David wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:50:59 -0500, dxAce
wrote:


XM 131 24/7

Sirius 141 24/7


How much do you pay for XM and Sirius? Isn't it something like
$15-20/mo, in addition to a receiver that costs a few hundred bucks? Why
should I pay $200 or so a year just to get the BBCWS, when I can buy a
$50 Degen and listen to it without subscription costs? Even if I have to
listen to it from the Asian stream, I still save money. Not all of us
have gobs of cash. Even Ace, who has gobs of cash, prefers to spend his
money in more productive ways than giving it to XM and Sirius. XM and
Sirius are mostly music, 12 channels each of every variant of every type
of music you can imagine. I don't listen to much music, and 12 channels
of right wing talk doesn't appeal to me, so I'd be paying money to
listen to something I can get for free with a $50 radio. I suppose David
Rickets likes throwing money away. I can't afford to.


Gobs of cash?


How else can you afford to sit and listen to your radio all day, every
day?


I'm retired, at least for the time being!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



running dogg March 27th 06 12:17 AM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
David Eduardo wrote:


"running dogg" wrote in message
...

Ah. You see, the VOA was (was, since it in effect doesn't exist anymore)
run by an agency of the US govt, USAID I think.


USAID is the US Agency for International Development. t helps farmers get
better crops, etc. The USIS, US Information Service, is what you are
thinking of.

VOA very much exists. It just is reducing its usage of SW and increasing in
other bands and media.

In most countries, the
national broadcaster is a govt agency. Since the BBC is not controlled
by the UK govt, the BBC can make all sorts of screwy decisions and
nobody can tell them no.


The BBC is a government chartered orgainzation, and financed by government
taxes.

(In contrast, the screwy decisions made at the
VOA were done by presidential appointees. The President and Congress
could have decided to hire new people to run the place.) So the BBC
slashes the WS, they slash domestic programming, they make a lot of
people upset, and nobody can rein them in. At least the big corporate
broadcasters in the US (NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox, Time Warner (who runs the WB
network), Paramount Pictures (UPN)) have majority stockholders and
boards of directors who can fire the CEO if he ****s up.


What has been screwed up at the VOA? They are simply moving into the new
centrury.


Basically, they're focusing WAY too much on music services and not
enough on news, information, and the American way of life. The Russians
liked VOA because it gave them information about the outside world. VOA
today plays rap music. Most *Americans* don't like Eminem. I can only
imagine what the Muslims think of it.


running dogg March 27th 06 12:25 AM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
David wrote:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:08:57 -0800, running dogg wrote:


How much do you pay for XM and Sirius? Isn't it something like
$15-20/mo, in addition to a receiver that costs a few hundred bucks? Why
should I pay $200 or so a year just to get the BBCWS, when I can buy a
$50 Degen and listen to it without subscription costs? Even if I have to
listen to it from the Asian stream, I still save money. Not all of us
have gobs of cash. Even Ace, who has gobs of cash, prefers to spend his
money in more productive ways than giving it to XM and Sirius. XM and
Sirius are mostly music, 12 channels each of every variant of every type
of music you can imagine. I don't listen to much music, and 12 channels
of right wing talk doesn't appeal to me, so I'd be paying money to
listen to something I can get for free with a $50 radio. I suppose David
Rickets likes throwing money away. I can't afford to.

The radios start at $50 (or less, even). The initial subscription is
$13 a month (about the cost of one compact disc, which you will tire
of in a few hours).


Let's see, that's $156 a year to get one radio station.

I used to listen to the Singapore relay from around 3:30 AM until
around 7:30 AM (Pacific Time). Other than that, there's no BBC left
out here. On the satellite it's alway there, noise free, and I can
concentrate on the content.


I understand that you live in the Santa Clarita Valley. IIRC, that place
is horrible for radio reception. LA FM stations have to put up repeaters
to be heard there, and it's just a hop skip and jump away from downtown
LA. (OK, that's 2 hours in LA traffic, but I'm talking air distance.)
The mountains block virtually all radio signals. Try using your car
radio when going through Tejon Canyon sometime. It's DEAD. In your case,
satellite radio WOULD be a necessity. I can usually hear the Beeb's
Asian service for a few hours in the afternoon on the 15 Mhz band,
although I haven't tried it recently. I will have to see if the signal
lasts until The World Today comes on at 0300.


David Eduardo March 27th 06 01:59 AM

BBC Shortwave A06
 

"running dogg" wrote in message
. ..
David Eduardo wrote:

What has been screwed up at the VOA? They are simply moving into the new
centrury.


Basically, they're focusing WAY too much on music services and not
enough on news, information, and the American way of life.


If you want to reach youth before their minds are made up, usinga
music-based setting is the only way. The VOA music formats, such as Sawa,
have plenty of news and commentary and US information, but are based on the
appeal of US music around the world. Talk programming will only reach people
who already favor the US point of view and will not reach younger people and
will not sway those over 35 or so who listen to talk programming.

The Russians
liked VOA because it gave them information about the outside world. VOA
today plays rap music. Most *Americans* don't like Eminem. I can only
imagine what the Muslims think of it.


Most Americans under 25 or 30 do like hip hop and US pop music. And the rest
of the world adores it.



David March 27th 06 02:13 AM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:17:08 -0800, running dogg wrote:



Basically, they're focusing WAY too much on music services and not
enough on news, information, and the American way of life. The Russians
liked VOA because it gave them information about the outside world. VOA
today plays rap music. Most *Americans* don't like Eminem. I can only
imagine what the Muslims think of it.

What do ''most Americans'' like, if not Eminem?


David March 27th 06 02:16 AM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:25:35 -0800, running dogg wrote:



Let's see, that's $156 a year to get one radio station.


I understand that you live in the Santa Clarita Valley. IIRC, that place
is horrible for radio reception. LA FM stations have to put up repeaters
to be heard there, and it's just a hop skip and jump away from downtown
LA. (OK, that's 2 hours in LA traffic, but I'm talking air distance.)
The mountains block virtually all radio signals. Try using your car
radio when going through Tejon Canyon sometime. It's DEAD. In your case,
satellite radio WOULD be a necessity. I can usually hear the Beeb's
Asian service for a few hours in the afternoon on the 15 Mhz band,
although I haven't tried it recently. I will have to see if the signal
lasts until The World Today comes on at 0300.

Nobody puts translators here. I can get a few stations in HD.

The BBC in the car?


running dogg March 27th 06 03:07 AM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
David wrote:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:25:35 -0800, running dogg wrote:



Let's see, that's $156 a year to get one radio station.


I understand that you live in the Santa Clarita Valley. IIRC, that place
is horrible for radio reception. LA FM stations have to put up repeaters
to be heard there, and it's just a hop skip and jump away from downtown
LA. (OK, that's 2 hours in LA traffic, but I'm talking air distance.)
The mountains block virtually all radio signals. Try using your car
radio when going through Tejon Canyon sometime. It's DEAD. In your case,
satellite radio WOULD be a necessity. I can usually hear the Beeb's
Asian service for a few hours in the afternoon on the 15 Mhz band,
although I haven't tried it recently. I will have to see if the signal
lasts until The World Today comes on at 0300.

Nobody puts translators here. I can get a few stations in HD.

The BBC in the car?


I was not clear. My apologies. I was noting that AM/FM signals are
blocked in the canyons of the Tehachapis, and that it's likely (although
I haven't tried it) that SW signals are as well.


David March 27th 06 04:46 AM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:07:26 -0800, running dogg wrote:

David wrote:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:25:35 -0800, running dogg wrote:



Let's see, that's $156 a year to get one radio station.


I understand that you live in the Santa Clarita Valley. IIRC, that place
is horrible for radio reception. LA FM stations have to put up repeaters
to be heard there, and it's just a hop skip and jump away from downtown
LA. (OK, that's 2 hours in LA traffic, but I'm talking air distance.)
The mountains block virtually all radio signals. Try using your car
radio when going through Tejon Canyon sometime. It's DEAD. In your case,
satellite radio WOULD be a necessity. I can usually hear the Beeb's
Asian service for a few hours in the afternoon on the 15 Mhz band,
although I haven't tried it recently. I will have to see if the signal
lasts until The World Today comes on at 0300.

Nobody puts translators here. I can get a few stations in HD.

The BBC in the car?


I was not clear. My apologies. I was noting that AM/FM signals are
blocked in the canyons of the Tehachapis, and that it's likely (although
I haven't tried it) that SW signals are as well.

No. Not at all. I can get all kinds of Asian stations. But I don't
speak Asian.


Simon Mason March 27th 06 11:52 AM

BBC Shortwave A06
 

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. com...



The BBC is a government chartered orgainzation, and financed by government
taxes.


It is financed by the TV licence fee, not Govt taxes.


--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net



David Eduardo March 27th 06 04:44 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. com...



The BBC is a government chartered orgainzation, and financed by
government taxes.


It is financed by the TV licence fee, not Govt taxes.


And that license fee is a tax by the government, just as a vehicle
registration fee is a tax by the government in the US.



Mark Zenier March 27th 06 05:08 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
In article ,
Simon Mason wrote:
For example, when I was driving around Prague, I could listen to BBC WS on
the car's FM radio.


No, you can't. It was on "Write On" a couple of weeks ago that they
are now sharing the Prague transmissions with a Czech language station
and are limited in their hours.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


Telamon March 27th 06 10:38 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
In article ,
"Tom Holden" wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...

The BBC in the car?


I borrowed a Sirius receiver from my employer for a holiday trip from
Toronto to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, a distance of some 1600 km (1000
miles) each way, roughly 35 hours on the road, and enjoyed listening
alternately to CBC Radio One on Sirius 137 and BBCWS on Sirius 141. It was
pretty much uninterrupted, except for the tunnels through the Blue Ridge
Mountains. While the audio quality sucked at the low bitrates used, I was
surprised at how much the distortion was masked by car noise and how
accustomed I became.

Now to keep dxAce from complaining that this is not a posting about
shortwave, I took my KA-1103 along with every intention of doing some SWL -
never turned it on! Seems to me that alternatives to shortwave as a means of
delivery are legitimate topics for rrs, since so many users of shortwave are
migrating to other means of communication. ;-)


Fine I'll answer for him. This is not about short wave and it doesn't
belong in this new group. If I want to read about "other means of
communication" I'll join another news group.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce March 27th 06 10:47 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 


dxAce wrote:

So this is ALL THAT`S LEFT of English BBCWS on SW in the entire Western
Hemisphe

1100 1300 Daily 11865
2100 2200 Daily 15390
2100 2130 Mon-Fri 11675
2200 2300 Daily 5975

Here`s the East Asia schedule, some of which will seep over to WNAm:

0000 0030 Daily 17615
0000 1030 Daily 15360
0000 0530 Daily 15280
0300 1030 Daily 21660
0300 1300 Daily 17760
0900 1030 Daily 9605
1300 1600 Daily 9740
1300 1700 Daily 6195
2100 2200 Daily 11945
2100 2400 Daily 5965
2200 2400 Daily 9740
2200 2300 Daily 6195, 5955
2300 2400 Daily 11850
2300 0030 Daily 11945
2330 2400 Daily 6195

Likewise, many of the African frequencies are audible in C&E NAm; especially
Ascension when on 21470, 12095:

SOUTHERN AFRICA
0300 2200 Daily 6190
0300 0400 Daily 6005, 6035*
0300 0600 Daily 3255
0400 0500 Daily 7120*
0500 0700 Daily 11765*
0500 1700 Daily 11940
0800 1900 Daily 21470
1600 2200 Daily 3255
1900 2100 Daily 12095
2100 2300 Daily 6005
*West Africa programmes

WEST & CENTRAL AFRICA [17830 15400 ASC best]
0300 0600 Daily 7160
0300 0400 Daily 6035
0400 0500 Daily 7120
0400 0706 Daily 6005
0500 0800 Daily 11765
0600 0700 Daily 9530
0630 0700 Daily 11990
0700 1000 Daily 15400
0700 1000 Daily 17830
1000 1100 Sat-Sun 17830, 15400
1100 1130 Daily 15400
1100 2100 Daily 17830
1600 1800 Daily 17885
1800 2000 Daily 17795
1600 2300 Daily 15400

Page linking to all the BBCWS in English SW frequency schedules (and each has a
separate link in graph from showing transmitter sites):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/sc...es/index.shtml
(Glenn Hauser, DX LISTENING DIGEST)


Noted here on 12095 at 2135, though I did here it go off 12095 at 2100. I left the
house and came back in at 2135 and there it was.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


David March 27th 06 10:48 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:38:08 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article ,
"Tom Holden" wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...



Fine I'll answer for him. This is not about short wave and it doesn't
belong in this new group. If I want to read about "other means of
communication" I'll join another news group.


This Newsgroup is about all things radio, DC to Daylight. Read the
original FAQ.


dxAce March 27th 06 10:54 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 


David wrote:

On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:38:08 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article ,
"Tom Holden" wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...



Fine I'll answer for him. This is not about short wave and it doesn't
belong in this new group. If I want to read about "other means of
communication" I'll join another news group.


This Newsgroup is about all things radio, DC to Daylight. Read the
original FAQ.


The satellite crap is NOT radio, you dimwitted, drug addled 'tard. I can realize
a passing mention of it from time to time, but dip****s such as yourself tend to
run it into the ground, along with your other 'revolutionary' drivel.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David March 27th 06 11:23 PM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:54:23 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



The satellite crap is NOT radio, you dimwitted, drug addled 'tard. I can realize
a passing mention of it from time to time, but dip****s such as yourself tend to
run it into the ground, along with your other 'revolutionary' drivel.

It's radio, Sweetheart. Uses transmitters, antennas, request lines
and bumper stickers.

Just because it doesn't conform to your quaint notions don't mean it
ain't real.


Telamon March 28th 06 12:28 AM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

David wrote:

On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:38:08 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article ,
"Tom Holden" wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...



Fine I'll answer for him. This is not about short wave and it
doesn't belong in this new group. If I want to read about "other
means of communication" I'll join another news group.


This Newsgroup is about all things radio, DC to Daylight. Read the
original FAQ.


The satellite crap is NOT radio, you dimwitted, drug addled 'tard. I
can realize a passing mention of it from time to time, but dip****s
such as yourself tend to run it into the ground, along with your
other 'revolutionary' drivel.


DxAce has it right.

First off I don't read articles posted by people that advocate the over
throw of the USA government so I don't read David.

Second the news group subject matter is AMBCB, FMBCB and shortwave
DXing. The news group is primarily about short wave though. This will
be a huge surprise to some very confused individuals but the FAQ goes on
for pages talking about, get this, short wave. Now I know something
along the lines OF THE NEWS GROUPS NAME just might escape some peoples
attention but that is another story.

If you want to be on topic then post about a DX'ing experience,
antennas, radios, QSL's, your shack and equipment, propagation or
questions about the same.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David March 28th 06 12:50 AM

BBC Shortwave A06
 
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:28:28 GMT, Telamon
wrote:



DxAce has it right.

First off I don't read articles posted by people that advocate the over
throw of the USA government so I don't read David.

Second the news group subject matter is AMBCB, FMBCB and shortwave
DXing. The news group is primarily about short wave though. This will
be a huge surprise to some very confused individuals but the FAQ goes on
for pages talking about, get this, short wave. Now I know something
along the lines OF THE NEWS GROUPS NAME just might escape some peoples
attention but that is another story.

If you want to be on topic then post about a DX'ing experience,
antennas, radios, QSL's, your shack and equipment, propagation or
questions about the same.


DX Ace is a horse's ass. You are a raving paranoid loony. I have
never advocated anything not specified and codified in the
Constitution. I mean that in a friendly way...

'' What is rec.radio.shortwave for?

As stated above this group was created for USENETers to have a place
to discuss
the radio monitoring hobby. This group is not moderated, however
'serious'
arguments and any kind of flame wars are strongly discouraged. That
is not to
say that genuine disagreement and discussion of differing opinions is
not
welcome. We only ask that you keep the tone friendly, and in the
spirit of
international cooperation upon which the hobby is founded.

This group is intended to be a place where ANY radio monitoring topic
can and
should be discussed. We are happy to hear from posters who listen to
any part
of the radio or microwave spectrum, from DC to daylight. We discuss
topics of
almost any kind, ranging from (but not limited to) shortwave
broadcasting,
DXing small or distant shortwave stations, utility and teletype
monitoring,
military eavesdropping, station schedules, QSLing sw broadcasters,
spectrum
usage, equipment design and modifications, antennas, receiver reviews
and
recommendations, and many more.

Despite what the newsgroup name might imply, we definitely DO NOT
limit
discussions to shortwave only. Any radio-related topics are
welcome.''

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/radio/monitoring/introduction/


dxAce March 28th 06 01:16 AM

BBC Shortwave A06
 


David wrote:

On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:28:28 GMT, Telamon
wrote:


DxAce has it right.

First off I don't read articles posted by people that advocate the over
throw of the USA government so I don't read David.

Second the news group subject matter is AMBCB, FMBCB and shortwave
DXing. The news group is primarily about short wave though. This will
be a huge surprise to some very confused individuals but the FAQ goes on
for pages talking about, get this, short wave. Now I know something
along the lines OF THE NEWS GROUPS NAME just might escape some peoples
attention but that is another story.

If you want to be on topic then post about a DX'ing experience,
antennas, radios, QSL's, your shack and equipment, propagation or
questions about the same.


DX Ace is a horse's ass. You are a raving paranoid loony. I have
never advocated anything not specified and codified in the
Constitution. I mean that in a friendly way...

'' What is rec.radio.shortwave for?

As stated above this group was created for USENETers to have a place
to discuss
the radio monitoring hobby. This group is not moderated, however
'serious'
arguments and any kind of flame wars are strongly discouraged. That
is not to
say that genuine disagreement and discussion of differing opinions is
not
welcome. We only ask that you keep the tone friendly, and in the
spirit of
international cooperation upon which the hobby is founded.

This group is intended to be a place where ANY radio monitoring topic
can and
should be discussed. We are happy to hear from posters who listen to
any part
of the radio or microwave spectrum, from DC to daylight. We discuss
topics of
almost any kind, ranging from (but not limited to) shortwave
broadcasting,
DXing small or distant shortwave stations, utility and teletype
monitoring,
military eavesdropping, station schedules, QSLing sw broadcasters,
spectrum
usage, equipment design and modifications, antennas, receiver reviews
and
recommendations, and many more.

Despite what the newsgroup name might imply, we definitely DO NOT
limit
discussions to shortwave only. Any radio-related topics are
welcome.''

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/radio/monitoring/introduction/


I have a feeling they meant terrestrial radio, versus your damn satellite crap,
you mentally retarded dimwit.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




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