junius wrote:
John S. wrote:
A for instance would be: A Sony 2010 will outperform a Kenwood R300.
And I'm sure you can come up with several others.

it is interesting the manner in which certain portables have narrowed
the performance gap between portable and tabletop.

The Sat 800 and E1 would be prime examples in this respect. (yeah, I
know, some folks have trouble carrying a Sat 800...probably the same
folks who take an elevator to get from ground level to the second floor
of a building... ;-)

Also, models such as the Drake SW8 (and the Sat 800, for that matter)
have served to blur the distinction between portable/tabletop.

I agree completely - there are some fine portable receivers. I notice
that the portable bashing group has become suddenly silent. It's
difficult to keep talking when facts get in the way of opinions.

No one in this group is bashing portables.

Thanks for finally helping me to understand why even some men are
nowadays referred to as "bitches".

Steve wrote:
No one in this group is bashing portables.

Thanks for finally helping me to understand why even some men are
nowadays referred to as "bitches".

Now that is an interesting word to use...speaks volumes about you and
your ....er... interests.

This kind of defensiveness speaks volumes. It's easy to tell when
someone has sunk a large amount of money into a receiver and then
regrets it. They have to make others pay for (what they perceive to be)
their mistake.

Hey, let's ease up on things in here, folks...

Tonight on Masterpiece Theat
Under The Greenwood Tree
Keely Hawes stars in this adaptation of Thomas Hardy's novel about
courtship and love in rural England in the 1870s. It is a moving and
funny romance charting the relationship of school teacher Fancy Day and
the laborer Dick Dewey through four seasons, from their first meeting
in winter to their eventual marriage -- under the greenwood tree -- in
autumn.

I am Scotch Irish by Ancestry,,, dont get me started on england.Look,I
can tell y'all some things pertaining to that.I doubt if y'all would
understand.
cuhulin

Steve wrote:
This kind of defensiveness speaks volumes. It's easy to tell when
someone has sunk a large amount of money into a receiver and then
regrets it. They have to make others pay for (what they perceive to be)
their mistake.

Actually for my first decent tabletop receiver I paid $400.00 new for
a Kenwood R5000, added the filters, memory option and a few other
goodies. After that I picked up a fully functional National HRO 500
for $25.00 plus commission at an auction.

But the radio that really got me started in SWLin'g was the
high-performing Sony 2010 Portable (before the R5000) that sold for way
under your magical number of $500.00 And yes it will outperform many
tabletops.

I'm at a complete loss as to what what you are talking about..., bud.
There are guys that will sink a lot of money into old communuications
receivers (R390) and some of the new comm stuff that comes on the used
market. But they really are basically just ego boosters for guys like
you aren't they.

Damn, I guess I really hit a nerve.

Congrats on the 2010. It was a pretty good deal in terms of price and
performance. At least you've owned one portable that you don't have to
feel defensive about.

As for the rest of your verbiage, I don't know what to tell you. If you
can't conduct a serious (or at any rate, halfway serious) conversation
about receivers, you came to the wrong place. I feel a little sorry for
you, since you're obviously out a lot of dough. At the same time, your
being all nasty and defensive ain't gonna hurt me, and it ain't gonna
make you any smarter. Just try to do a little research next time,
preferably BEFORE you make your purchase.

Hope this helps.

Steve wrote:

Congrats on the 2010. It was a pretty good deal in terms of price and
performance. At least you've owned one portable that you don't have to
feel defensive about.


Hmm, I bought a '2010 new in 1988 for $325 at Ham Radio Outlet, Atlanta
(Larry Galecki made the sale). Good radio, although it's no longer in
proper working order now. I did get my money's worth out of it,
though.

Of course, the dollar was worth more when I bought that radio. In 2006
dollars, we'd be talkin' about $530.75 for that purchase in 1988.

http://minneapolisfed.org/research/data/us/calc/

((Needless to say, I understand your argument, Steve: you're weighing
the cost of the E1 relative to other radios on the market today when
making the assessment that it's not a good value for you. Still, I
throw this out there because it's worthwhile to note that our dollar
has declined in value over time.))

Good point, Junius.