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Old May 25th 06, 04:15 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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"David Eduardo" wrote:


It is never referred to as "la raza" despite what you think.


Except in Denver, it is. All the time.

But then, you say that a letter soliciting participation in Arbitron
first doesn't exist, then doesn't qualify as a recruitment effort,
THEN is experimental in only two markets, despite other people getting
them outside those markets.

You claim tht "HD" AM is great, despite many reports by actual
engineers who say otherwise.

You claim that no listeners exist outside your little market slices,
despite the many who personally explain that they listen.

Your claims have no weight at this point. Perhaps the Flat Earth
Society can use your services -- I think you'd fit right in.


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business is to make money. But the real purpose of a business is to
create value. While it’s possible to make money in the short run
without creating much value, in the long run it’s unsustainable.
Even criminal organizations have to create value for someone."
- Steve Pavlina, April 10, 2006
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Old May 25th 06, 06:39 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote:


It is never referred to as "la raza" despite what you think.


Except in Denver, it is. All the time.


No, it is not. In Denver, if you hear "la raza" you are hearing a common
term for working class Mexican immigrants. NCLR is not well known in the
immigrant community... but the term "la raza" is very common. A gouy going
into a bar might say to friends he finds, "Quihúbole raza" which means,
"wazzup, bro" or you might se a "Viva La Raza" sticker, meaning "Up with the
people" or "Up with the common folks."

But then, you say that a letter soliciting participation in Arbitron
first doesn't exist, then doesn't qualify as a recruitment effort,
THEN is experimental in only two markets, despite other people getting
them outside those markets.


The letter has been used in tests in several markets, but not applied to the
survey, just a pilot test group. It will be used later this year in areas
where response rates are low to make actual recruiting easier, per Dr. Ed
Cohen, the designer of the Arbitron swample methodology with who I had lunch
yesterday.

Again: the letter is not pat of the survey methdology. The letter is not a
recruit... it is a warm up to encourage people to take part in the actual
recruit process of which the letter is not part. Again, per Arbitron, the
letter is not a recruiting letter. It is a warm up to make people more
likely to respond to the actual recruit process . Less than 0.9% log on to
the website or call back... so it is really a way to make the home more
receptive when a call comes in.


You claim tht "HD" AM is great, despite many reports by actual
engineers who say otherwise.


Since we have several dozen working and working very well, and I can name
the stations and engineers, I will wait for your list of engineers who have
actually worked in HD installs and have other opinions. I know nobody who
actually has an HD install who is not pleased.

You claim that no listeners exist outside your little market slices,
despite the many who personally explain that they listen.


However, audience measurement, in every US county and every US metro shows
an enormously small number of people actually do this, despite your
meaningless anecdotal evidence.

Your claims have no weight at this point. Perhaps the Flat Earth
Society can use your services -- I think you'd fit right in.


I actually work in radio, and with multiple successful stations. From your
posts, you don't really understand how the business of radio works.


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David Frackelton Gleason aka Eduardo wrote:

"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote:


It is never referred to as "la raza" despite what you think.


Except in Denver, it is. All the time.


No, it is not. In Denver, if you hear "la raza" you are hearing a common
term for working class Mexican immigrants. NCLR is not well known in the
immigrant community... but the term "la raza" is very common. A gouy going
into a bar might say to friends he finds, "Quihúbole raza" which means,
"wazzup, bro" or you might se a "Viva La Raza" sticker, meaning "Up with the
people" or "Up with the common folks."

But then, you say that a letter soliciting participation in Arbitron
first doesn't exist, then doesn't qualify as a recruitment effort,
THEN is experimental in only two markets, despite other people getting
them outside those markets.


The letter has been used in tests in several markets, but not applied to the
survey, just a pilot test group. It will be used later this year in areas
where response rates are low to make actual recruiting easier, per Dr. Ed
Cohen, the designer of the Arbitron swample methodology with who I had lunch
yesterday.

Again: the letter is not pat of the survey methdology. The letter is not a
recruit... it is a warm up to encourage people to take part in the actual
recruit process of which the letter is not part. Again, per Arbitron, the
letter is not a recruiting letter. It is a warm up to make people more
likely to respond to the actual recruit process . Less than 0.9% log on to
the website or call back... so it is really a way to make the home more
receptive when a call comes in.


You claim tht "HD" AM is great, despite many reports by actual
engineers who say otherwise.


Since we have several dozen working and working very well, and I can name
the stations and engineers, I will wait for your list of engineers who have
actually worked in HD installs and have other opinions. I know nobody who
actually has an HD install who is not pleased.

You claim that no listeners exist outside your little market slices,
despite the many who personally explain that they listen.


However, audience measurement, in every US county and every US metro shows
an enormously small number of people actually do this, despite your
meaningless anecdotal evidence.

Your claims have no weight at this point. Perhaps the Flat Earth
Society can use your services -- I think you'd fit right in.


I actually work in radio, and with multiple successful stations. From your
posts, you don't really understand how the business of radio works.


From your posts, you really don't understand that IBOC = QRM.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




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"dxAce" wrote in message
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I actually work in radio, and with multiple successful stations. From
your
posts, you don't really understand how the business of radio works.


From your posts, you really don't understand that IBOC = QRM.


HD uses spectrum that is not, in today's environment, generating significant
listening (fringe signal listening in other words) and uses it to enhance
radio stations so they may better compete in a world with alternate delivery
paths and an obsession with digital sources. It is, in effect, a no-brainier
trade of a few cents for many potential dollars.


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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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I actually work in radio, and with multiple successful stations. From
your
posts, you don't really understand how the business of radio works.


From your posts, you really don't understand that IBOC = QRM.


HD uses spectrum that is not, in today's environment, generating significant
listening (fringe signal listening in other words) and uses it to enhance
radio stations so they may better compete in a world with alternate delivery
paths and an obsession with digital sources. It is, in effect, a no-brainier
trade of a few cents for many potential dollars.


It's also a no brainer that IBOC = QRM.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




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Old May 25th 06, 06:51 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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I actually work in radio, and with multiple successful stations. From
your
posts, you don't really understand how the business of radio works.

From your posts, you really don't understand that IBOC = QRM.


HD uses spectrum that is not, in today's environment, generating
significant
listening (fringe signal listening in other words) and uses it to enhance
radio stations so they may better compete in a world with alternate
delivery
paths and an obsession with digital sources. It is, in effect, a
no-brainier
trade of a few cents for many potential dollars.


It's also a no brainer that IBOC = QRM.


Something is only interference if it interferes which listening to something
else. Since there is only a minuscule amount of interest in listening to
distant signals outside their primary coverage areas, for most people there
is no interference at all.


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And P.... Fink Eduardo antes up.
cuhulin

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dxAce,Brenda is my kid.
cuhulin

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dxAce,Brenda is my kid.


Well if she wasn't aware of that already, she'll soon find out!

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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Did I actually say Brenda is my kid? or did somebody imposter me again?
or maybe I was drunk again.Brenda most certainly is not my kid.
I dont have any kids,,, not that I know of anyway,but who knows?
cuhulin



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