"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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he real issue is that most AMs in the US do not serve
today's metro areas, and in more rural areas, most AMs were killed
already
by docket 80-90 drop ins.



I might be familiar to the issue, but I don't know what "docket 80-90
drop
ins" is.

Late 90's, following the Bonita Springs case (station lost its license
when
it applied to upgrade, as it opened up, then, competitive bidding) the FCC
added over a thousand new FMs and allowed Class A's to become B's or C's,
and allowed routine major changes, including changes in city of license.
End
result... Traverse City, MI, market, with one time 2 AMs, now has about 15
stations city grading a county of 40,000. Lake City, FL. 3 AMs and two FMs
grew to 7 FMs, and nobody makes money... the AMs are useless now, as the
local ground coverage is so poor that the FMs took it all.

In most of this type of market, there is nearly no AM listening, and the
coverage of the local small market AMs is so vastly inferior to the many
new
local FMs as to also discourage listening. There are very few decent
overage
AMs in America.



Oh, my. A bunch of entrepreneurs started a bunch of radio stations which
now hardly have any listeners and don't make a cent. They're just
interfering with the radio establishment. Good thing nobody will be much
bothered when the bigger station's IBOC generators light up. Sheesh.

Frank Dresser

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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Oh, my. A bunch of entrepreneurs started a bunch of radio stations which
now hardly have any listeners and don't make a cent.

Actually, the owners of most 80-90 stations were already owners in other
markets. All they did was file for as many of these things as they could.
Or, in some cases, entrepreneurs filed, and then, when granted, sold to
existing broadcasters.

They're just
interfering with the radio establishment.

They were the radio establishment. In fact, the original case of Bonita
Springs saw a single owner, Dick Friedman, lose the license to Beasley, who
had the FCC limit of staitons.

Good thing nobody will be much
bothered when the bigger station's IBOC generators light up. Sheesh.

There are already over a thousand HD stations on the air. There is more
theoretical complaining here than among listeners.

Interestingly, two years ago KFI reduced bandwidth to prepare for HD. Since
they did that, their ratings have increased from bottom of the top 10 in LA
to #2. As I said, this group complains far more than the listeners who
simply will have better quality and more format options.

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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Oh, my. A bunch of entrepreneurs started a bunch of radio stations
which
now hardly have any listeners and don't make a cent.

Actually, the owners of most 80-90 stations were already owners in other
markets. All they did was file for as many of these things as they could.
Or, in some cases, entrepreneurs filed, and then, when granted, sold to
existing broadcasters.

They're just
interfering with the radio establishment.

They were the radio establishment. In fact, the original case of Bonita
Springs saw a single owner, Dick Friedman, lose the license to Beasley,
who
had the FCC limit of staitons.

Good thing nobody will be much
bothered when the bigger station's IBOC generators light up. Sheesh.

There are already over a thousand HD stations on the air. There is more
theoretical complaining here than among listeners.

The complaining concerns IBOC AM. Aren't most of the current IBOC stations
FM?


Interestingly, two years ago KFI reduced bandwidth to prepare for HD.
Since
they did that, their ratings have increased from bottom of the top 10 in
LA
to #2. As I said, this group complains far more than the listeners who
simply will have better quality and more format options.



Well, yeah. Audiophiles are listening to recordings, not broadcasts -- and
I don't think anybody has any audiophile expectations of talk stations,
anyway.

The usual IBOC complaint is about it's interference. The IBOC sound
complaint comes up as a counterpoint to the claim that IBOC sound is much
better than radio sound, although listeners seem to find radio sound at
least tolerable.

I haven't heard demodulated IBOC so I can't comment much on the sound. I
have heard digital audio from CDs to cellphones. I'll assume the IBOC sound
falls somewhere in between.

Frank Dresser