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Old July 18th 06, 05:47 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Whatever. I can't imagine what motivates you to post this crap here.
You know you aren't going to sell us on IBOC, so why waste your
time?

It realtes to DX as HD uses specturm. It also shows that there is a
lot
of
sentiment for it in radio, and it is unlikely it will go away. There
was
noting like this support for AM stereo...


But no one in this group cares. No one is interested in what you have
to say, so why bother?


Actually, some are. I have even received e-mails on the subject from
readers
of the group.

If you are not interested in the subject, you are, like DXass, playing
ostrich. You may not like what I post, so ignore my postings. But HD is
going to be on most of the viable AMs in the US in a few years.


You're just a garden variety troll...with a very poor understanding of
both radio and marketing.


Huh? There are over 1000 HD stations on the ari, and commitments for more
than a thousand more.

Considering that only about 20% to 25% of AMs licensed are viable (cover
thier market, are not daytimers, do not have radically limited night
patterns, etc), nearly every one will be HD in about 24 to 36 months.

On FM, most viable top 100 market stations will be HD in a couple of years.
There are already over 100 HD-2 formats running.

I have a pretty good understanding of radio, and the credentials and C. V.
to back that statement. Who are you to say I do not?

Get thee behind me, troll!


Troll = truthsayer (in this case)


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David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
ps.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...
Whatever. I can't imagine what motivates you to post this crap here.
You know you aren't going to sell us on IBOC, so why waste your
time?

It realtes to DX as HD uses specturm. It also shows that there is a
lot
of
sentiment for it in radio, and it is unlikely it will go away. There
was
noting like this support for AM stereo...


But no one in this group cares. No one is interested in what you have
to say, so why bother?

Actually, some are. I have even received e-mails on the subject from
readers
of the group.

If you are not interested in the subject, you are, like DXass, playing
ostrich. You may not like what I post, so ignore my postings. But HD is
going to be on most of the viable AMs in the US in a few years.


You're just a garden variety troll...with a very poor understanding of
both radio and marketing.


Huh? There are over 1000 HD stations on the ari, and commitments for more
than a thousand more.

Considering that only about 20% to 25% of AMs licensed are viable (cover
thier market, are not daytimers, do not have radically limited night
patterns, etc), nearly every one will be HD in about 24 to 36 months.

On FM, most viable top 100 market stations will be HD in a couple of years.
There are already over 100 HD-2 formats running.

I have a pretty good understanding of radio, and the credentials and C. V.
to back that statement. Who are you to say I do not?

Get thee behind me, troll!


Troll = truthsayer (in this case)


Yes, yes, this would all have been very interesting in 1986.

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Old July 18th 06, 02:24 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:47:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
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On FM, most viable top 100 market stations will be HD in a couple of years.
There are already over 100 HD-2 formats running.

From what I've heard thus far I'm not impressed. Star 98.7 is running
a 250 song '80s playlist, KROCK (''Q-2'') is running heavily censored
Active Rock, maybe 350 songs . Sol Levine has the right idea. Kill
the AM. Right?

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:47:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
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On FM, most viable top 100 market stations will be HD in a couple of
years.
There are already over 100 HD-2 formats running.

From what I've heard thus far I'm not impressed. Star 98.7 is running
a 250 song '80s playlist, KROCK (''Q-2'') is running heavily censored
Active Rock, maybe 350 songs . Sol Levine has the right idea. Kill
the AM. Right?


Sol shut down 540 because he was legally required to to sell 1650, which he
got "in exchange" in the X-band procedures. He did not shut it down because
he wanted to; he did it because he got something better in exchange.

The current HD-2 channels are just starting, with programming that will
"expand" in phases as more receivers come to the market. Right now, most are
there to prove to the manufacturers that there will be a market.

The fact is, most listeners do not have more than a few hundred favorite
songs in any genre. Several recent surveys have shown that the average
number of songs on an iPod is around 300! When you go beyond that number, in
most formats or genres, you are playing songs that listeners don't really
like, which is hardly a gain.

Calling the limiting of a playlist to songs most people like, as opposed to
songs they don't like, is hardly "censorship." It is more like "common
sense."

The reason Baskin Robbins does not have 1000 flavors is that most people
like the same 8 or 10, and occasionally try one or another in an array of 30
to 40. Same with music.


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David Eduardo wrote:
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:47:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


On FM, most viable top 100 market stations will be HD in a couple of
years.
There are already over 100 HD-2 formats running.

From what I've heard thus far I'm not impressed. Star 98.7 is running
a 250 song '80s playlist, KROCK (''Q-2'') is running heavily censored
Active Rock, maybe 350 songs . Sol Levine has the right idea. Kill
the AM. Right?


Sol shut down 540 because he was legally required to to sell 1650, which he
got "in exchange" in the X-band procedures. He did not shut it down because
he wanted to; he did it because he got something better in exchange.

The current HD-2 channels are just starting, with programming that will
"expand" in phases as more receivers come to the market. Right now, most are
there to prove to the manufacturers that there will be a market.

The fact is, most listeners do not have more than a few hundred favorite
songs in any genre. Several recent surveys have shown that the average
number of songs on an iPod is around 300! When you go beyond that number, in
most formats or genres, you are playing songs that listeners don't really
like, which is hardly a gain.

Calling the limiting of a playlist to songs most people like, as opposed to
songs they don't like, is hardly "censorship." It is more like "common
sense."

The reason Baskin Robbins does not have 1000 flavors is that most people
like the same 8 or 10, and occasionally try one or another in an array of 30
to 40. Same with music.


Sorry. You're about twenty years too late.



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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:37:36 GMT, "David Eduardo"
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The fact is, most listeners do not have more than a few hundred favorite
songs in any genre. Several recent surveys have shown that the average
number of songs on an iPod is around 300! When you go beyond that number, in
most formats or genres, you are playing songs that listeners don't really
like, which is hardly a gain.

The way this was determined was by people trying out songs on focus
groups, but who picks the songs?

I guarantee you I could do a station with a thousand hits and it would
be #1.

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The fact is, most listeners do not have more than a few hundred favorite
songs in any genre. Several recent surveys have shown that the average
number of songs on an iPod is around 300! When you go beyond that number,
in
most formats or genres, you are playing songs that listeners don't really
like, which is hardly a gain.

The way this was determined was by people trying out songs on focus
groups, but who picks the songs?

I guarantee you I could do a station with a thousand hits and it would
be #1.


It has been tried.

1. There are not 1000 hits in most formats (an exception or two exist)
2. when tried, the station with fewer and better songs wins in inverse
proportion to library size.

I had a station come after my classic rocker a few years ago. We had under
500 songs. They did 1,800. We had a 20 share, they had a 1.8.

Years before, I tried doing double the cuts of a leading AC. I lost big.
Listeners gave the variety image to the other station because they played
better music.


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