David Eduardo wrote:
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David Eduardo wrote:

AM in rated markets can give you an idea of what is happening. In the 7
years since Fall 1998 to the Winter, 2006, AM in Los Angeles has gone
from
just under 24% of listening to 17%. That is a loss of about 30% of AM
listening in that period, or about 3% a year.

At the same time, the average age of AM listeners has crept up by over 5
years, and most of the listeners are in age groups that are of no
interest
to most advertisers.


None of this is news, you idiot.

I see. I fit is not news, what is the average share for AM in san Francisco?
El Paso? Atlanta? And what was it 8 years ago?

I see. You did not know. It _is_ news, but you are in denial that something
must be done.

Wrong again, fool.


What you and your marketing buddies
are wanting to do to AM is worse than its simply dying!

I see. taking something that is doing very poorly and not doing anything
would be the rightr step?


Doing nothing would be better than what you're doing. That's for sure.



I know no such thing. I know that AM has great potential with HD if the
roll
out of receivers (7 new ones announced this week, including a $149 after
market car radio) comes fast enough and stations promote it enough.


You are a liar and a troll.

A troll says something outrageous.

Everything you say is outrageous.


I am saying that new radios are coming out, and the price is going down.
True. Not outrageous.

I am saying that there are over 2000 stations comitted to HD, and there are
new HD 2 channels going on the air daily. . True. Not otrageous.


Oh, gee, we'd have no idea were it not for you. Get a grip, Ding Dong.


I am saying AM will die if the current trend continues another 5 years. This
is also true, and quite frightening.

Being a realist, I know that AM, where I started in radio, is a 90 year
old
medium and will definitely die if we do not improve it in a way that is
palpable by the listener, especially the under-45 crowd.


If it's put into the hands of scum like you, it will die immediately.
Jerk

I have built, managed and programmed AMs for the last 42 years. The decline
is technology based, and can be corrected... with technology.

That's like "correcting" someone's crooked teeth by blowing their head
off.

You're a liar, a fool, a troll and a one of the few men I've ever known
who is accurate described by the term "bitch". Go ahead troll, troll
your little heart out.

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David Eduardo wrote:

If it's put into the hands of scum like you, it will die immediately.
Jerk

I have built, managed and programmed AMs for the last 42 years. The
decline
is technology based, and can be corrected... with technology.

That's like "correcting" someone's crooked teeth by blowing their head
off.

You're a liar, a fool, a troll and a one of the few men I've ever known
who is accurate described by the term "bitch". Go ahead troll, troll
your little heart out.

Well, over $300,000,000 has already been spent on HD installs. There is no
lie in stating that HD is happening, and there is a major commitment by
every large broadcaster except Salem to the technology. There is also great
concern about preventing the loss of AM, and HD is being emplyed as the ONLY
solution.

If you think this is exaggeration, trolling, a lie or whatever, you are
simply trying to cover the sky with you hand.

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

If it's put into the hands of scum like you, it will die immediately.
Jerk

I have built, managed and programmed AMs for the last 42 years. The
decline
is technology based, and can be corrected... with technology.

That's like "correcting" someone's crooked teeth by blowing their head
off.

You're a liar, a fool, a troll and a one of the few men I've ever known
who is accurate described by the term "bitch". Go ahead troll, troll
your little heart out.

Well, over $300,000,000 has already been spent on HD installs. There is no
lie in stating that HD is happening, and there is a major commitment by
every large broadcaster except Salem to the technology. There is also great
concern about preventing the loss of AM, and HD is being emplyed as the ONLY
solution.

If you think this is exaggeration, trolling, a lie or whatever, you are
simply trying to cover the sky with you hand.

You mean you're trying to pull the wool over our eyes, don't you? You
are a liar and a shill. Like I said, thinking you can 'save' AM with HD
is like thinking you can "correct" a toothache by blowing the person's
head off. Any one who denies this is simply afraid to face stark
realities.

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David Eduardo wrote:
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David Eduardo wrote:

If it's put into the hands of scum like you, it will die
immediately.
Jerk

I have built, managed and programmed AMs for the last 42 years. The
decline
is technology based, and can be corrected... with technology.

That's like "correcting" someone's crooked teeth by blowing their head
off.

You're a liar, a fool, a troll and a one of the few men I've ever known
who is accurate described by the term "bitch". Go ahead troll, troll
your little heart out.

Well, over $300,000,000 has already been spent on HD installs. There is
no
lie in stating that HD is happening, and there is a major commitment by
every large broadcaster except Salem to the technology. There is also
great
concern about preventing the loss of AM, and HD is being emplyed as the
ONLY
solution.

If you think this is exaggeration, trolling, a lie or whatever, you are
simply trying to cover the sky with you hand.

You mean you're trying to pull the wool over our eyes, don't you? You
are a liar and a shill. Like I said, thinking you can 'save' AM with HD
is like thinking you can "correct" a toothache by blowing the person's
head off. Any one who denies this is simply afraid to face stark
realities.

The problem with AM, in everybody's proprietary research, is that the sound
is such a barrier that nobody in the most recent two generations will listen
to it. Until the sound is "fixed" there is no way to prevent the decline,
ageing and eventual obsolescence of AM. Already, 75% of the band's listeners
are over the age that advertisers are interested in.

In LA, which is actually a heavier user of AM than many markets, less than
10% of the 12-24 listening is to AM. In 12-34, it is 6%, with 6 different
FMs each having more 12-34 listening than the entire AM band in that age
group.

You didn't know that, did you!

David Eduardo wrote:
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David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

If it's put into the hands of scum like you, it will die
immediately.
Jerk

I have built, managed and programmed AMs for the last 42 years. The
decline
is technology based, and can be corrected... with technology.

That's like "correcting" someone's crooked teeth by blowing their head
off.

You're a liar, a fool, a troll and a one of the few men I've ever known
who is accurate described by the term "bitch". Go ahead troll, troll
your little heart out.

Well, over $300,000,000 has already been spent on HD installs. There is
no
lie in stating that HD is happening, and there is a major commitment by
every large broadcaster except Salem to the technology. There is also
great
concern about preventing the loss of AM, and HD is being emplyed as the
ONLY
solution.

If you think this is exaggeration, trolling, a lie or whatever, you are
simply trying to cover the sky with you hand.

You mean you're trying to pull the wool over our eyes, don't you? You
are a liar and a shill. Like I said, thinking you can 'save' AM with HD
is like thinking you can "correct" a toothache by blowing the person's
head off. Any one who denies this is simply afraid to face stark
realities.

The problem with AM, in everybody's proprietary research, is that the sound
is such a barrier that nobody in the most recent two generations will listen
to it. Until the sound is "fixed" there is no way to prevent the decline,
ageing and eventual obsolescence of AM. Already, 75% of the band's listeners
are over the age that advertisers are interested in.

In LA, which is actually a heavier user of AM than many markets, less than
10% of the 12-24 listening is to AM. In 12-34, it is 6%, with 6 different
FMs each having more 12-34 listening than the entire AM band in that age
group.

You didn't know that, did you!


It's gradual decline would be far preferable to the fate you would hand
it. Jerk.

"Steve" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

In LA, which is actually a heavier user of AM than many markets, less
than
10% of the 12-24 listening is to AM. In 12-34, it is 6%, with 6 different
FMs each having more 12-34 listening than the entire AM band in that age
group.

You didn't know that, did you!


It's gradual decline would be far preferable to the fate you would hand
it. Jerk.

Gradual? Having less audience for the whole band than any of 6 FM stations
is not slow death... it is death already in the younger demos, where the ad
money is. In a few years, the 35-44 will be gone entirely, and the 45-54
will shrink. At that point, there is no ad revenue. Not one national buy in
LA this year has been for 55+.

The sad thing is that we waited, as an industry, till now.

David Eduardo wrote:
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David Eduardo wrote:

In LA, which is actually a heavier user of AM than many markets, less
than
10% of the 12-24 listening is to AM. In 12-34, it is 6%, with 6 different
FMs each having more 12-34 listening than the entire AM band in that age
group.

You didn't know that, did you!


It's gradual decline would be far preferable to the fate you would hand
it. Jerk.

Gradual? Having less audience for the whole band than any of 6 FM stations
is not slow death... it is death already in the younger demos, where the ad
money is. In a few years, the 35-44 will be gone entirely, and the 45-54
will shrink. At that point, there is no ad revenue. Not one national buy in
LA this year has been for 55+.

The sad thing is that we waited, as an industry, till now.


It's rapid decline would be far preferable to the fate you would hand
it. Jerk.

David Eduardo wrote:

The problem with AM, in everybody's proprietary research, is that the sound
is such a barrier that nobody in the most recent two generations will listen
to it. Until the sound is "fixed" there is no way to prevent the decline,
ageing and eventual obsolescence of AM. Already, 75% of the band's listeners
are over the age that advertisers are interested in.


Yo yo yo... ever hear of C-QUAM??? It produces a hi fidelity analog
signal, IN ****ING STEREO, without subjecting the entire band to the
interference that IBOC does. And I've heard C-Quam STEREO signals from
hundreds of miles away via skywave at night. But, lo and behold, my
firends who have been ripped off by buying HD radios, can't seem to get
their digital carriers from across town...works welll... and the
buzzsaw on the main and adjacent channels, I just love it.

....and IBOC at night???? Please don't make me punch your retarded
****ing LED's out.

IBOC on AM is a JOKE... hahaha... J O K E joke.... turn the C-Quam back
on, send iNiquity their splatterbox back and go the **** away.

I just now produced something that sounded like stereo.

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David Eduardo wrote:

The problem with AM, in everybody's proprietary research, is that the
sound
is such a barrier that nobody in the most recent two generations will
listen
to it. Until the sound is "fixed" there is no way to prevent the decline,
ageing and eventual obsolescence of AM. Already, 75% of the band's
listeners
are over the age that advertisers are interested in.


Yo yo yo... ever hear of C-QUAM??? It produces a hi fidelity analog
signal, IN ****ING STEREO, without subjecting the entire band to the
interference that IBOC does.

It was tried and failed, because there were legal delays that caused it to
be introduced after FM had already taking th edominant position in music
radio. Nobody cared, starting with most radio stations.

The only way to bring a quality improvement to AM is by riding on the same
system that FM uses to go digital.

By the way, it is not about stereo. It is about being digital.

And I've heard C-Quam STEREO signals from
hundreds of miles away via skywave at night. But, lo and behold, my
firends who have been ripped off by buying HD radios, can't seem to get
their digital carriers from across town...works welll... and the
buzzsaw on the main and adjacent channels, I just love it.

The stations love it. It enhances the coverage of analog AMs where it
matters, in the local market.

CQuam is dead. It was dead in 1985. Move on.