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David Eduardo wrote:

If it's put into the hands of scum like you, it will die immediately.
Jerk

I have built, managed and programmed AMs for the last 42 years. The
decline
is technology based, and can be corrected... with technology.

That's like "correcting" someone's crooked teeth by blowing their head
off.

You're a liar, a fool, a troll and a one of the few men I've ever known
who is accurate described by the term "bitch". Go ahead troll, troll
your little heart out.

Well, over $300,000,000 has already been spent on HD installs. There is no
lie in stating that HD is happening, and there is a major commitment by
every large broadcaster except Salem to the technology. There is also great
concern about preventing the loss of AM, and HD is being emplyed as the ONLY
solution.

If you think this is exaggeration, trolling, a lie or whatever, you are
simply trying to cover the sky with you hand.

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

If it's put into the hands of scum like you, it will die immediately.
Jerk

I have built, managed and programmed AMs for the last 42 years. The
decline
is technology based, and can be corrected... with technology.

That's like "correcting" someone's crooked teeth by blowing their head
off.

You're a liar, a fool, a troll and a one of the few men I've ever known
who is accurate described by the term "bitch". Go ahead troll, troll
your little heart out.

Well, over $300,000,000 has already been spent on HD installs. There is no
lie in stating that HD is happening, and there is a major commitment by
every large broadcaster except Salem to the technology. There is also great
concern about preventing the loss of AM, and HD is being emplyed as the ONLY
solution.

If you think this is exaggeration, trolling, a lie or whatever, you are
simply trying to cover the sky with you hand.

You mean you're trying to pull the wool over our eyes, don't you? You
are a liar and a shill. Like I said, thinking you can 'save' AM with HD
is like thinking you can "correct" a toothache by blowing the person's
head off. Any one who denies this is simply afraid to face stark
realities.

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David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

If it's put into the hands of scum like you, it will die
immediately.
Jerk

I have built, managed and programmed AMs for the last 42 years. The
decline
is technology based, and can be corrected... with technology.

That's like "correcting" someone's crooked teeth by blowing their head
off.

You're a liar, a fool, a troll and a one of the few men I've ever known
who is accurate described by the term "bitch". Go ahead troll, troll
your little heart out.

Well, over $300,000,000 has already been spent on HD installs. There is
no
lie in stating that HD is happening, and there is a major commitment by
every large broadcaster except Salem to the technology. There is also
great
concern about preventing the loss of AM, and HD is being emplyed as the
ONLY
solution.

If you think this is exaggeration, trolling, a lie or whatever, you are
simply trying to cover the sky with you hand.

You mean you're trying to pull the wool over our eyes, don't you? You
are a liar and a shill. Like I said, thinking you can 'save' AM with HD
is like thinking you can "correct" a toothache by blowing the person's
head off. Any one who denies this is simply afraid to face stark
realities.

The problem with AM, in everybody's proprietary research, is that the sound
is such a barrier that nobody in the most recent two generations will listen
to it. Until the sound is "fixed" there is no way to prevent the decline,
ageing and eventual obsolescence of AM. Already, 75% of the band's listeners
are over the age that advertisers are interested in.

In LA, which is actually a heavier user of AM than many markets, less than
10% of the 12-24 listening is to AM. In 12-34, it is 6%, with 6 different
FMs each having more 12-34 listening than the entire AM band in that age
group.

You didn't know that, did you!

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

If it's put into the hands of scum like you, it will die
immediately.
Jerk

I have built, managed and programmed AMs for the last 42 years. The
decline
is technology based, and can be corrected... with technology.

That's like "correcting" someone's crooked teeth by blowing their head
off.

You're a liar, a fool, a troll and a one of the few men I've ever known
who is accurate described by the term "bitch". Go ahead troll, troll
your little heart out.

Well, over $300,000,000 has already been spent on HD installs. There is
no
lie in stating that HD is happening, and there is a major commitment by
every large broadcaster except Salem to the technology. There is also
great
concern about preventing the loss of AM, and HD is being emplyed as the
ONLY
solution.

If you think this is exaggeration, trolling, a lie or whatever, you are
simply trying to cover the sky with you hand.

You mean you're trying to pull the wool over our eyes, don't you? You
are a liar and a shill. Like I said, thinking you can 'save' AM with HD
is like thinking you can "correct" a toothache by blowing the person's
head off. Any one who denies this is simply afraid to face stark
realities.

The problem with AM, in everybody's proprietary research, is that the sound
is such a barrier that nobody in the most recent two generations will listen
to it. Until the sound is "fixed" there is no way to prevent the decline,
ageing and eventual obsolescence of AM. Already, 75% of the band's listeners
are over the age that advertisers are interested in.

In LA, which is actually a heavier user of AM than many markets, less than
10% of the 12-24 listening is to AM. In 12-34, it is 6%, with 6 different
FMs each having more 12-34 listening than the entire AM band in that age
group.

You didn't know that, did you!


It's gradual decline would be far preferable to the fate you would hand
it. Jerk.

"Steve" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

In LA, which is actually a heavier user of AM than many markets, less
than
10% of the 12-24 listening is to AM. In 12-34, it is 6%, with 6 different
FMs each having more 12-34 listening than the entire AM band in that age
group.

You didn't know that, did you!


It's gradual decline would be far preferable to the fate you would hand
it. Jerk.

Gradual? Having less audience for the whole band than any of 6 FM stations
is not slow death... it is death already in the younger demos, where the ad
money is. In a few years, the 35-44 will be gone entirely, and the 45-54
will shrink. At that point, there is no ad revenue. Not one national buy in
LA this year has been for 55+.

The sad thing is that we waited, as an industry, till now.

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

In LA, which is actually a heavier user of AM than many markets, less
than
10% of the 12-24 listening is to AM. In 12-34, it is 6%, with 6 different
FMs each having more 12-34 listening than the entire AM band in that age
group.

You didn't know that, did you!


It's gradual decline would be far preferable to the fate you would hand
it. Jerk.

Gradual? Having less audience for the whole band than any of 6 FM stations
is not slow death... it is death already in the younger demos, where the ad
money is. In a few years, the 35-44 will be gone entirely, and the 45-54
will shrink. At that point, there is no ad revenue. Not one national buy in
LA this year has been for 55+.

The sad thing is that we waited, as an industry, till now.


It's rapid decline would be far preferable to the fate you would hand
it. Jerk.

David Eduardo wrote:

The problem with AM, in everybody's proprietary research, is that the sound
is such a barrier that nobody in the most recent two generations will listen
to it. Until the sound is "fixed" there is no way to prevent the decline,
ageing and eventual obsolescence of AM. Already, 75% of the band's listeners
are over the age that advertisers are interested in.


Yo yo yo... ever hear of C-QUAM??? It produces a hi fidelity analog
signal, IN ****ING STEREO, without subjecting the entire band to the
interference that IBOC does. And I've heard C-Quam STEREO signals from
hundreds of miles away via skywave at night. But, lo and behold, my
firends who have been ripped off by buying HD radios, can't seem to get
their digital carriers from across town...works welll... and the
buzzsaw on the main and adjacent channels, I just love it.

....and IBOC at night???? Please don't make me punch your retarded
****ing LED's out.

IBOC on AM is a JOKE... hahaha... J O K E joke.... turn the C-Quam back
on, send iNiquity their splatterbox back and go the **** away.

I just now produced something that sounded like stereo.

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wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

The problem with AM, in everybody's proprietary research, is that the
sound
is such a barrier that nobody in the most recent two generations will
listen
to it. Until the sound is "fixed" there is no way to prevent the decline,
ageing and eventual obsolescence of AM. Already, 75% of the band's
listeners
are over the age that advertisers are interested in.


Yo yo yo... ever hear of C-QUAM??? It produces a hi fidelity analog
signal, IN ****ING STEREO, without subjecting the entire band to the
interference that IBOC does.

It was tried and failed, because there were legal delays that caused it to
be introduced after FM had already taking th edominant position in music
radio. Nobody cared, starting with most radio stations.

The only way to bring a quality improvement to AM is by riding on the same
system that FM uses to go digital.

By the way, it is not about stereo. It is about being digital.

And I've heard C-Quam STEREO signals from
hundreds of miles away via skywave at night. But, lo and behold, my
firends who have been ripped off by buying HD radios, can't seem to get
their digital carriers from across town...works welll... and the
buzzsaw on the main and adjacent channels, I just love it.

The stations love it. It enhances the coverage of analog AMs where it
matters, in the local market.

CQuam is dead. It was dead in 1985. Move on.

David Eduardo wrote:
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And I've heard C-Quam STEREO signals from
hundreds of miles away via skywave at night. But, lo and behold, my
firends who have been ripped off by buying HD radios, can't seem to get
their digital carriers from across town...works welll... and the
buzzsaw on the main and adjacent channels, I just love it.

The stations love it. It enhances the coverage of analog AMs where it
matters, in the local market.

CQuam is dead. It was dead in 1985. Move on.



CQuam is dead for reasons other than industrial delays in
implementation. Although, in my never to be humble opinion, it's a
better solution, you hit the nail he

it is not about stereo. It is about being digital.

FCC will not approve any new modulation technology that isn't digital.

This despite earlier mandates that X-band allocations must be C-Quam
equipped. Now, that mandate is dead in favor of the Powell FCC's digital
mandate.

And while it may be here, and it may be inevitable, now, the
implementation has been poorly orchestrated, and with IBOC rash trashing
the bands before receivers have been widely available, short sighted in
the extreme.

What's been done, sadly, is far more deleterious to AM usage than
doing nothing. Because it's not only DXers who are affected, here. It's
users in local coverage areas, who are now dealing with noises that they
never had to before, in areas which, like where I live, are protected as
local coverage but protected local stations are hit with IBOC
interference. And if noise is one of the primary objections to AM usage,
any system that introduces noise to the bands, even if that noise is
gone in the digital mode, will only add to the objections of users who
have marginal interst in AM anyway. Especially when the hardware to
enjoy the new mode is both widely unavailable, and costly. Even if it's
coming. The negative impression made by IBOC rash today, will plant
seeds of undesirability that will persist. And you'll not get a fair
trial when the new hardware is widely available.

What I'm seeing, is interest in HD-AM by users who are interested in
AM content, and who regularly use AM anyway. But little or no interest
in users who do not regularly use AM. Regardless of the audio
quality....if there is no interest in the programming, there will be
little interest in how good it may or may not sound.

The only potential uptick I see is in those auto systems where HD is
included as a standard feature. Sampling of HD, at that point, would be
a natural extension of radio sampling in general...playing with a new
radio in a new car is fairly commonplace. See what it sounds like, on
both bands...even if only to set the presets...there's still sampling
going on. In that context, HD may get a fair hearing, and perhaps some
encouraging acceptance. So, as with most radio techological innovations,
it's going to have to be in the cars in order to expose that captive
audience to a fair hearing of HD-AM for an interest to be generated.
(This, despite the fact that a majority of listening is not in cars.)
But for those listeners who would have to actively pursue an HD
experience without current regular AM usage...I'm not seeing it.

So far, you've been talking about how the stations love HD-AM. You
and I know that the success of any radio station is found in listener
centric product and behaviour. The point that radio stations love HD-AM
is unimportant. It's the listener's embrace that matters. And outside
of controlled demostrations, there is nothing to suggest that there is
more interest in HD-AM than in C-Quam. And the jury will be out for
some time to come.