"Telamon" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote:

The fact that you are on this group means you are not an average
listener.

I don't see my being above average as important to this discussion.

The average listener does not spend any time thinking about radio. It is
just "there."

AMBCB has good fidelity and so does FM. AMBCB is not stereo but I
don't care as I listen to talk radio and news on that band. I don't
spend much time with FM. Generally I listen to AMBCB, short wave,
and spend time on the Internet for news.

I don't think it is the sound as much as FM is in stereo.

FM stereo was permitted in 1960, and it took 3 years to get to 100 stations.
It had zero audience impact then.

What made FM work was when the FCC madated the end to simulcasting, and
suddenly a thousand or so new formats came on all over America, most with no
commercials... in an era when AM had 18 minutes an hour on nearly every
station.


There are a number of AM stations playing music but I don't listen to
them. There are news stations like KNS besides the talkers.

Those that play music play standards or ethnic fare for the majority of
cases. 65+ audience.

David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

The fact that you are on this group means you are not an average
listener.

I don't see my being above average as important to this discussion.

The average listener does not spend any time thinking about radio. It is
just "there."

AMBCB has good fidelity and so does FM. AMBCB is not stereo but I
don't care as I listen to talk radio and news on that band. I don't
spend much time with FM. Generally I listen to AMBCB, short wave,
and spend time on the Internet for news.

I don't think it is the sound as much as FM is in stereo.

FM stereo was permitted in 1960, and it took 3 years to get to 100 stations.
It had zero audience impact then.

What made FM work was when the FCC madated the end to simulcasting, and
suddenly a thousand or so new formats came on all over America, most with no
commercials... in an era when AM had 18 minutes an hour on nearly every
station.


There are a number of AM stations playing music but I don't listen to
them. There are news stations like KNS besides the talkers.

Those that play music play standards or ethnic fare for the majority of
cases. 65+ audience.

Sorry, but you're still BUSTED.

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"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

The fact that you are on this group means you are not an average
listener.

I don't see my being above average as important to this discussion.

The average listener does not spend any time thinking about radio. It is
just "there."

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I think plenty of people think about AM radio. What about all the people
that listen to talk radio? They don't think about it? What about all the
people that look to AM radio for news and weather and traffic reports?

Maybe this is an effort to kill talk radio where people can get the
political right point of view. The leftists have TV, newspapers, and FM
covered. It's only on AM band that Air America can't make it.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

The fact that you are on this group means you are not an average
listener.

I don't see my being above average as important to this discussion.

The average listener does not spend any time thinking about radio. It is
just "there."

Snip

I think plenty of people think about AM radio. What about all the people
that listen to talk radio? They don't think about it? What about all the
people that look to AM radio for news and weather and traffic reports?

They think about the shows or the content, not about "radio" per se.

Maybe this is an effort to kill talk radio where people can get the
political right point of view. The leftists have TV, newspapers, and FM
covered. It's only on AM band that Air America can't make it.

That is a political question.

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

The fact that you are on this group means you are not an average
listener.

I don't see my being above average as important to this discussion.

The average listener does not spend any time thinking about radio. It is
just "there."

Snip

I think plenty of people think about AM radio. What about all the people
that listen to talk radio? They don't think about it? What about all the
people that look to AM radio for news and weather and traffic reports?

They think about the shows or the content, not about "radio" per se.

Well what do most people think then, that the voices are in their head?
Of course they think about radio. They have to take the time to tune the
stations in and program their favorites to memory.

Maybe this is an effort to kill talk radio where people can get the
political right point of view. The leftists have TV, newspapers, and FM
covered. It's only on AM band that Air America can't make it.

That is a political question.

Yeah, and one to think about. Maybe this is a deliberate destruction of
the AMBCB.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon,I think you are right about,deliberate destruction of AMBCB.In
my opinion,U.S.fed govt doesn't want us to listen to long distance AM
Radio.I have mentioned something about that before many,many Moons ago
in this very news group.
cuhulin

wrote in
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Telamon,I think you are right about,deliberate destruction of AMBCB.In
my opinion,U.S.fed govt doesn't want us to listen to long distance AM
Radio.I have mentioned something about that before many,many Moons ago
in this very news group.
cuhulin



It's a liberal plot to get rid of Hannity, Limbaugh, and Savage.

SC

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

The average listener does not spend any time thinking about radio. It
is
just "there."

Snip

I think plenty of people think about AM radio. What about all the
people
that listen to talk radio? They don't think about it? What about all
the
people that look to AM radio for news and weather and traffic reports?

They think about the shows or the content, not about "radio" per se.

Well what do most people think then, that the voices are in their head?
Of course they think about radio. They have to take the time to tune the
stations in and program their favorites to memory.

People do not spend any time thinking about how radio works, why one band
has some programs and why another has others, etc. They think only as far as
the on and off switch and the presets. It is an appliance, free, and easy to
change. Nobody, short of those on this group and similar ones, spend any
time considering how radio works.

In the case of AM, the only thing listeners under 45 think is that it sounds
bad. Period.

This is why the programming of WTOP in DC moved to FM, that of WNLS in
Tallahassee moved to FM, of WTAR in Phoenix now going to simulcast on FM,
KSL in Salt Lake doing the same thing... etc. These stations believe they
have a viable format in, at least, 35-44, which they do not get, but believe
they can get with the better sound quality of FM.

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

The average listener does not spend any time thinking about
radio. It is just "there."

Snip

I think plenty of people think about AM radio. What about all
the people that listen to talk radio? They don't think about it?
What about all the people that look to AM radio for news and
weather and traffic reports?

They think about the shows or the content, not about "radio" per
se.

Well what do most people think then, that the voices are in their
head? Of course they think about radio. They have to take the time
to tune the stations in and program their favorites to memory.

People do not spend any time thinking about how radio works, why one
band has some programs and why another has others, etc. They think
only as far as the on and off switch and the presets. It is an
appliance, free, and easy to change. Nobody, short of those on this
group and similar ones, spend any time considering how radio works.

In the case of AM, the only thing listeners under 45 think is that it
sounds bad. Period.

Where do you get this? How does AM sound worse to these people than FM?

This is why the programming of WTOP in DC moved to FM, that of WNLS
in Tallahassee moved to FM, of WTAR in Phoenix now going to simulcast
on FM, KSL in Salt Lake doing the same thing... etc. These stations
believe they have a viable format in, at least, 35-44, which they do
not get, but believe they can get with the better sound quality of
FM.

What we have here is a failure to communicate. People do think about
radio when looking for programming content and when they find what they
like program in the buttons on the radio so they can go right to it.
People will listen at certain times to be entertained such as during
car commutes because you can listen and drive at the same time.

I am not different than the majority of people in that I turn the radio
on to hear the programming. If I want to "think" about radio I read and
post to this news group.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:
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In the case of AM, the only thing listeners under 45 think is that it
sounds bad. Period.

Where do you get this? How does AM sound worse to these people than FM?

I "get that" by talking to listeners in person, or by having my staff do
that. AM is irrelevant due to sound quality. Under a certain age, you could
be giving away money and they would not listen because it is AM.

This is why the programming of WTOP in DC moved to FM, that of WNLS
in Tallahassee moved to FM, of WTAR in Phoenix now going to simulcast
on FM, KSL in Salt Lake doing the same thing... etc. These stations
believe they have a viable format in, at least, 35-44, which they do
not get, but believe they can get with the better sound quality of
FM.

What we have here is a failure to communicate. People do think about
radio when looking for programming content and when they find what they
like program in the buttons on the radio so they can go right to it.

But they do not ask "why." They just select from a menu of free options.