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HD radios *are* selling - radio luddites go into panic mode!

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On Mar 6, 10:51?pm, "Mike" wrote:
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HD radios not selling - HD shills to the rescue !


HD radios *are* selling - radio luddites go into panic mode!

Mike


Consumers are not interested in HD Radio:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd...+xm%2C+podcast

http://www.alexaholic.com/ibiquity.c...om+xmradio.com

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On Mar 6, 8:36 pm, wrote:
On Mar 6, 10:51?pm, "Mike" wrote:

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roups.com...


HD radios not selling - HD shills to the rescue !


HD radios *are* selling - radio luddites go into panic mode!


Mike


Consumers are not interested in HD Radio:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd...+xm%2C+podcast

http://www.alexaholic.com/ibiquity.c...dioalliance.co...


Hey gang don't forget, it's RADIO. I don't know how to break the bad
news to you all but about sixty years ago a new revolution came to
town called TELEVISION and people haven't been paying allot of
attention to the radio as they used to.

It's good for what it has to offer, but it's not going to
revolutionalize the industry or change our listening habits. It's
just going to make our experiences now better.

Hey shillers, pfffttttt 2u.

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"Radiola" wrote in message
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On Mar 6, 8:36 pm, wrote:
On Mar 6, 10:51?pm, "Mike" wrote:

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roups.com...


HD radios not selling - HD shills to the rescue !


HD radios *are* selling - radio luddites go into panic mode!


Mike


Consumers are not interested in HD Radio:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd...+xm%2C+podcast

http://www.alexaholic.com/ibiquity.c...dioalliance.co...


Hey gang don't forget, it's RADIO. I don't know how to break the bad
news to you all but about sixty years ago a new revolution came to
town called TELEVISION and people haven't been paying allot of
attention to the radio as they used to.


It's funny you should mention that...

Before the TV freeze was lifted, radio listening per capita was about 21
hours a week.

By 1970, when virtually every home had at least one TV set, radio listening
was.... 21 hours a week.

Today, after all the innovations starting with the 8-Trak, the cassettes,
CATV, CDs, the Internet, video games, computers, iPods and satellite to name
a few... average listening per person is 19 hours.




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In article , "Mike"
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wrote in message
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HD radios not selling - HD shills to the rescue !


HD radios *are* selling - radio luddites go into panic mode!

Mike


Oh yeah, I'm in a panic.

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HD radios not selling - HD shills to the rescue !


Related topic:

There was supposed to be a Tivoli "Model HD" arriving "late fall 2006":

http://www.gadgetell.com/2006/07/hd-...for-under-200/

There were some press releases on it at the Tivoli web site, but now all
I can find is a photograph of the prototype:

http://www.tivoliaudio.com/files/mas...a/model_hd.jpg

No other word in any forum I could find, this after slipping the
estimated ship date by almost 2 quarters now.

Not that I would have bought one for Christmas. My Model One is working
just fine (with external antennas) for me. No price was ever announced,
but I figure that the estimated MSRP was creeping over $300, which was
probably one motivation to shelve it indefinitely.

If I had a spare $300+ to spend on new audio equipment, I would probably
get a Roku Soundbridge R1000 instead:

http://www.amazon.com/Roku-SoundBrid...3239721&sr=8-6

as there would probably be a much wider selection of programming.

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Paul W. Schleck wrote:
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In .com writes:

HD radios not selling - HD shills to the rescue !


Related topic:

There was supposed to be a Tivoli "Model HD" arriving "late fall 2006":

http://www.gadgetell.com/2006/07/hd-...for-under-200/

There were some press releases on it at the Tivoli web site, but now all
I can find is a photograph of the prototype:

http://www.tivoliaudio.com/files/mas...a/model_hd.jpg

No other word in any forum I could find, this after slipping the
estimated ship date by almost 2 quarters now.

Not that I would have bought one for Christmas. My Model One is working
just fine (with external antennas) for me. No price was ever announced,
but I figure that the estimated MSRP was creeping over $300, which was
probably one motivation to shelve it indefinitely.

If I had a spare $300+ to spend on new audio equipment, I would probably
get a Roku Soundbridge R1000 instead:

http://www.amazon.com/Roku-SoundBrid...3239721&sr=8-6

as there would probably be a much wider selection of programming.

- --
Paul W. Schleck

http://www.novia.net/~pschleck/
Finger for PGP Public Key



Found this on the Tivoli Audio website. Go to the FAQ on the B-Goods
Outlet page, under "General":




7. Why hasn’t Tivoli Audio manufactured an HD radio?

There are several obstacles that must be overcome before we can
bring a Tivoli Audio HD radio to market.

The first is cost. Until this technology becomes less expensive,
it is not possible to manufacture an HD radio that is economical for our
customers. Secondly, but just as important, is sound quality. The HD
broadcast fidelity varies greatly from station to station and often
leaves much to be desired, despite what you may read in the press.

Once manufacturing costs come down and the sound quality is what
you have become accustomed to hearing from a Tivoli Audio radio, we will
manufacture a Tivoli HD radio. Until then, you can continue to enjoy
high fidelity sound from any one of our fine analog radios. Our radios
will not be obsolete anytime soon.
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D Peter Maus wrote:

Paul W. Schleck wrote:
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In .com
writes:

HD radios not selling - HD shills to the rescue !


Related topic:

There was supposed to be a Tivoli "Model HD" arriving "late fall 2006":

http://www.gadgetell.com/2006/07/hd-...for-under-200/

There were some press releases on it at the Tivoli web site, but now all
I can find is a photograph of the prototype:

http://www.tivoliaudio.com/files/mas...a/model_hd.jpg

No other word in any forum I could find, this after slipping the
estimated ship date by almost 2 quarters now.

Not that I would have bought one for Christmas. My Model One is working
just fine (with external antennas) for me. No price was ever announced,
but I figure that the estimated MSRP was creeping over $300, which was
probably one motivation to shelve it indefinitely.

If I had a spare $300+ to spend on new audio equipment, I would probably
get a Roku Soundbridge R1000 instead:

http://www.amazon.com/Roku-SoundBrid.../B000BIFY6Q/re
f=pd_bbs_sr_6/102-5343901-7994531?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1173239721&sr=8-
6

as there would probably be a much wider selection of programming.

- --
Paul W. Schleck

http://www.novia.net/~pschleck/
Finger for PGP Public Key



Found this on the Tivoli Audio website. Go to the FAQ on the B-Goods
Outlet page, under "General":




7. Why hasnąt Tivoli Audio manufactured an HD radio?

There are several obstacles that must be overcome before we can
bring a Tivoli Audio HD radio to market.

The first is cost. Until this technology becomes less expensive,
it is not possible to manufacture an HD radio that is economical for our
customers. Secondly, but just as important, is sound quality. The HD
broadcast fidelity varies greatly from station to station and often
leaves much to be desired, despite what you may read in the press.


Maybe Ibiquity should have Al Gore as their spokesperson. Then he could
profess a belief that HD sounds better than analog.

Once manufacturing costs come down and the sound quality is what
you have become accustomed to hearing from a Tivoli Audio radio, we will
manufacture a Tivoli HD radio. Until then, you can continue to enjoy
high fidelity sound from any one of our fine analog radios. Our radios
will not be obsolete anytime soon.


Again HD can not sound better using the same bandwidth.

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Ventura, California
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Again HD can not sound better using the same bandwidth.


Of course it can, and does. Stop thinking in analog terms. All a digital
signal needs is 1s and 0s. How much bandwidth do you think that needs?

To put it in terms that you might understand, think of it like Morse Code.
Code needs less bandwidth - and less power - but the message gets thru just
fine. Why do you suppose that is?

Mike



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