WOR 710 turned on their HD/IBOC tonight and when its skywave skips
into Maryland WLW is unlistenable. WOR completely obliterates WGN 720.
I would like to commend iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance for the
desturuction of AM, all for the benefit of a few thousand local
listeners, if they can even pick up the HD/IBOC signals:

Narkspud wrote:

"Here in OC, I found two AM HD signals on the air at 12:15 AM: Our own
KFWB (980, Los Angeles) and KFBK (1530, Sacramento). KFWB is always
reliable during the day hereabouts, and has a non-directional 5,000-
watt signal. KFBK is a 50,000-watt north-south directional, about 400
miles north of here. Now the bad news: no lock on either one for more
than a second or two, although the analog signals sounded fine. And
this time I tried driving around a bit. I got very little other than a
flashing HD indicator. KFWB's sidebands obliterated 970 and 990, and
KFBK'S were doing significant damage to an unidentified distant signal
on 1520 that should have been listenable. This ain't looking too good.
See ya tomorrow night."

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"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
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WOR 710 turned on their HD/IBOC tonight and when its skywave skips
into Maryland WLW is unlistenable. WOR completely obliterates WGN 720.
I would like to commend iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance for the
desturuction of AM, all for the benefit of a few thousand local
listeners, if they can even pick up the HD/IBOC signals:

Narkspud wrote:

"Here in OC, I found two AM HD signals on the air at 12:15 AM: Our own
KFWB (980, Los Angeles) and KFBK (1530, Sacramento). KFWB is always
reliable during the day hereabouts, and has a non-directional 5,000-
watt signal. KFBK is a 50,000-watt north-south directional, about 400
miles north of here. Now the bad news: no lock on either one for more
than a second or two, although the analog signals sounded fine. And
this time I tried driving around a bit. I got very little other than a
flashing HD indicator. KFWB's sidebands obliterated 970 and 990, and
KFBK'S were doing significant damage to an unidentified distant signal
on 1520 that should have been listenable. This ain't looking too good.
See ya tomorrow night."

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Couple good strong signals that should make it into CA on 1520. Both are
50KW. One is in Portland, OR, the other in OKC, OK. (there are places in
Portland where the local (actually licensed to Oregon City, with towers in
Clackamas) can be nulled and the OKC station can be heard.)

On Sep 14, 3:29 am, IBOCcrock wrote:
WOR 710 turned on their HD/IBOC tonight and when its skywave skips
into Maryland WLW is unlistenable. WOR completely obliterates WGN 720.
I would like to commend iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance for the
desturuction of AM, all for the benefit of a few thousand local
listeners, if they can even pick up the HD/IBOC signals:

Narkspud wrote:

"Here in OC, I found two AM HD signals on the air at 12:15 AM: Our own
KFWB (980, Los Angeles) and KFBK (1530, Sacramento). KFWB is always
reliable during the day hereabouts, and has a non-directional 5,000-
watt signal. KFBK is a 50,000-watt north-south directional, about 400
miles north of here. Now the bad news: no lock on either one for more
than a second or two, although the analog signals sounded fine. And
this time I tried driving around a bit. I got very little other than a
flashing HD indicator. KFWB's sidebands obliterated 970 and 990, and
KFBK'S were doing significant damage to an unidentified distant signal
on 1520 that should have been listenable. This ain't looking too good.
See ya tomorrow night."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=906379

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1520 kHz could have been KVTA-AM out of Ventura, CA

"David" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:29:20 -0700, IBOCcrock
wrote:

WOR 710 turned on their HD/IBOC tonight and when its skywave skips
into Maryland WLW is unlistenable. WOR completely obliterates WGN 720.
I would like to commend iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance for the
desturuction of AM, all for the benefit of a few thousand local
listeners, if they can even pick up the HD/IBOC signals:

Narkspud wrote:

"Here in OC, I found two AM HD signals on the air at 12:15 AM: Our own
KFWB (980, Los Angeles) and KFBK (1530, Sacramento). KFWB is always
reliable during the day hereabouts, and has a non-directional 5,000-
watt signal. KFBK is a 50,000-watt north-south directional, about 400
miles north of here. Now the bad news: no lock on either one for more
than a second or two, although the analog signals sounded fine. And
this time I tried driving around a bit. I got very little other than a
flashing HD indicator. KFWB's sidebands obliterated 970 and 990, and
KFBK'S were doing significant damage to an unidentified distant signal
on 1520 that should have been listenable. This ain't looking too good.
See ya tomorrow night."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=906379

Boycott HD Radio!

1520, KOKC, used to get into Hawaii at night. They were the only rock
station at night where I grew up, in suck-ass Scottsdale.

You mean KOMA in its CHR days?

On Sep 14, 4:20 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

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WOR 710 turned on their HD/IBOC tonight and when its skywave skips
into Maryland WLW is unlistenable. WOR completely obliterates WGN 720.
I would like to commend iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance for the
desturuction of AM, all for the benefit of a few thousand local
listeners, if they can even pick up the HD/IBOC signals:

Narkspud wrote:

"Here in OC, I found two AM HD signals on the air at 12:15 AM: Our own
KFWB (980, Los Angeles) and KFBK (1530, Sacramento). KFWB is always
reliable during the day hereabouts, and has a non-directional 5,000-
watt signal. KFBK is a 50,000-watt north-south directional, about 400
miles north of here. Now the bad news: no lock on either one for more
than a second or two, although the analog signals sounded fine. And
this time I tried driving around a bit. I got very little other than a
flashing HD indicator. KFWB's sidebands obliterated 970 and 990, and
KFBK'S were doing significant damage to an unidentified distant signal
on 1520 that should have been listenable. This ain't looking too good.
See ya tomorrow night."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=906379

Boycott HD Radio!

Couple good strong signals that should make it into CA on 1520. Both are
50KW. One is in Portland, OR, the other in OKC, OK. (there are places in
Portland where the local (actually licensed to Oregon City, with towers in
Clackamas) can be nulled and the OKC station can be heard.)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I usually get 1520 from Portland Or. without any problem at my
location on Vancouver Island. Tonight the noise bands from KFBK are
obliterating 1520 and 1540. KFBK is coming in strongly as it usually
does.

This is the first time I have heard the digital hash and it sounds
like holding an electric shaver against my ear.

Bob

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:41:28 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:48:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Boycott HD Radio!

1520, KOKC, used to get into Hawaii at night. They were the only rock
station at night where I grew up, in suck-ass Scottsdale.

You mean KOMA in its CHR days?

No. When they were Top 40. CHR sucks.

CHR and Top 40 are the same thing. A trade magazine decided, to distinguish
its chart from others, to use CHR back in the 70s and it stuck because
nobody in the business side of the industry liked the teen image of the term
Top 40.

Wrong! CHR is very crossover averse and narrow. Top 40 was the
epitome of ecclecticism and variety.

"David" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:41:28 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:48:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Boycott HD Radio!

1520, KOKC, used to get into Hawaii at night. They were the only rock
station at night where I grew up, in suck-ass Scottsdale.

You mean KOMA in its CHR days?

No. When they were Top 40. CHR sucks.

CHR and Top 40 are the same thing. A trade magazine decided, to
distinguish
its chart from others, to use CHR back in the 70s and it stuck because
nobody in the business side of the industry liked the teen image of the
term
Top 40.

Wrong! CHR is very crossover averse and narrow. Top 40 was the
epitome of ecclecticism and variety.

CHR was the "new" name for Top 40, courtesy of Radio & Records magazine. The
same stations that reported as Top 40 to Billboard and Cashbox and Rudman
and Gavin and Hamilton simultaneously reported as CHR to R&R.

CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:51:28 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.


What about jazz? Country? MOR?

"David" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:51:28 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It
has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.


What about jazz? Country? MOR?

Since Top 40 was invented (August of 1952) to today, the format has
reflected mass tastes... principally 18 to about 34 year olds (the format
was "invented" by watching a 30-something waitress playing the same songs
over and over on a jukebox). Other than crossovers, there have been few
country or jazz Top 40 hits. And, while Top 40 was AOR in the early 50's
(Gogi Grant, Perry Como, etc..) it dropped the MOR tunes almost entirely by
the late 50's to early 60's... and MOR itself morphed into AC, and today
there are many, many AC and CHR crossovers.

"David" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:52:40 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:51:28 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It
has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.


What about jazz? Country? MOR?

Since Top 40 was invented (August of 1952) to today, the format has
reflected mass tastes... principally 18 to about 34 year olds (the format
was "invented" by watching a 30-something waitress playing the same songs
over and over on a jukebox). Other than crossovers, there have been few
country or jazz Top 40 hits. And, while Top 40 was AOR in the early 50's
(Gogi Grant, Perry Como, etc..) it dropped the MOR tunes almost entirely
by
the late 50's to early 60's... and MOR itself morphed into AC, and today
there are many, many AC and CHR crossovers.

And every one of them sucks. Music radio is good when intelligent DJs
pick their own music. Otherwise your pushing crap on **** eaters.

DJs picking their own music and respectable listening levels do not go
together. Any time a station allows that, and is somewhat successful, like
progressive rock in the late 60's, someone comes and structures the same
concept and kills the free form station. The exceptions are very, very rare.